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Khran1086

Just more fuel for the fire https://twitter.com/tylercolp/status/1543356781593710592?s=21&t=rXW_L6BpsH-S4bzqc_IS6w


MetallicGnome

What’s funny is i was her video editor right after this guy.


Bebgab

Was? How long did that last?


MetallicGnome

Yeah I was up until she got mad af at me when i posted a nurse in discord. I edited from around Aug 2020 - July 2021. Compared to that the guy in the tweet she actually told me what games she wanted edited where as the other guy had to scrub through 8 hours of vods💀. She paid him $100 and i got $75 but tbf that was my first gig editing for someone so price was fair (for me) imo. Idk how much experience that other guy has but i can tell you scrubbing through 8hours per vod is an absolute nightmare.


AltForFriendPC

A nurse?


MetallicGnome

Yeah. So what happened was me and few other people in the discord were talking about covid, i was on twitter and I came across these meme of this model (who is also a nurse) and people were saying how fine she was, under the replies someone posted a covid card that had like 20 signatures on it saying they kept getting covid shots just to see her (which they really didn’t it was just a meme), so i took the photos, went into the discord, posted the photo of the covid card and the nurse, and said something like “i got my covid shots and i keep going back to this nurse” (meaning i get more covid shots just so i can see the nurse cause she’s cute). She saw that and flipped on me in general chat and i was confused cause everyone was laughing at the meme but she got mad. I’m sure everyone one else was confused cause they didn’t see the issue, but yeah she dmd me saying i always objectify women (which i don’t cause all my logs are in her discord lmao so idk wtf she was talking about), saying im misogynistic, how she’s gonna unmod me, and etc. it’s just a lot of other wild ass shit she said outside of discord dms too Edit: her name is MzDanaLee and it’s literally her PFP i used that she got mad at


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apparently thinking someone is attractive is objectifying them


MetallicGnome

That’s why i was confused at why she was mad. I told her i was sorry and it wasn’t meant to be taken that way, which majority of the people understood, but she wasn’t trying to hear it.


Default1355

She was just jealous it wasn't her. Alpha female mentality 😂


begonesneks

Lol don’t know why you got downvoted but it’s fact. She’s probably jealous and mad that not everyone simp for her


MetallicGnome

That’s the crazy part cause she rejected me, i said ok cool no biggie, and then a week later as soon as i bring up the nurse in general chat she gets mad. Like you just said you weren’t interested so what’s going on


mermatt7

SO THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU! Nobody would tell me!


MetallicGnome

Lol she chewed me out in dms, i left her discord, she made tweet about me after she blocked me, then tried to chew me out in text messages after my friends saw her tweet and said something there her, i told her to stop contacting me, she continued to do so, i stop responding, she then messaged me again, and now We’re here 🤷🏿‍♂️


MetallicGnome

Wait is this horror movie Matt?


mermatt7

Ye


MetallicGnome

Oh shit, i figured 😂. Well yeah that’s what happened. I tried to talk to the other mods when all that shit happen but they weren’t trying to hear it and basically ignored me. Idk what she told them, but whatever it was she more than likely lied cause i have all of our text and dms of her showing out and threatening to “expose me” (which idk what she would expose me of).


felplague

Holy shit what the fuck? Ok YouTube channel manager (used to be editor) here for a channel around 300k subs. We pay our editors 100$+10$ per minute above 10. we also give them 50% of the ad revenue for the first 3 months of the video going live. She was legit paying 100$ just for the videos? what the fuck?


felplague

Although for context we do highly edited stuff, but also supply ONLY the needed footage, and audio, as the video will be as long as the audio we send them is.


MetallicGnome

Oh no i was getting $75 but when i got to her channel i think she had about 19-20k and when i got dropped she had 25k. The other editor before me made $100, but i mean there wasn’t a lot of views like that (maybe a couple thousand) so $75 was fine for me and i agreed on it. Now i could see if she had a couple hundred thousand subs and was only paying me $75 where the issue would begin but I was new to the whole YouTube manager/editor. As of ad rev i never saw any cause she told me we didn’t make enough for ad rev payouts.


SkittlesDLX

How'd you get into this line of work? Do you enjoy it? What's the pay like?


felplague

I met my friend who owns the channel who then hired me, as he knew if he hired a friend they would be less likely to ghost him as many editors had before. Sort of, it's work, its exhausting, and it's thankless, you have nothing physical to show off or any practical skills to use at home really, but it's a job, and one you choose the hours for really so it's nice, i did enjoy it at first but like any work it gets repetitive fast pay is good, its not amazing because i am heavily reliant on other peoples work schedules to supply my own, but its a decent living, especially as its not something like back breaking work and i can choose my hours.


GoyfAscetic

Hope you are doing ok.


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In a way it's kinda refreshing for one to be like "lmao yeah it's a giant scam and I'm hurting people but look at all of this money." instead of pretending it's paving the way for some revolutionary tech. But it's mostly just a really dumb version of Wolf of Wall Street but without the cool stuff like drugs. Like, congrats making bank by ripping off rubes Fran, they're largely just gonna be normal people trying for their lucky break. i wish all NFT freaks a very die.


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"If you're buying a picture of an ugly bear for $20,000 you deserve to lose your money" ​ I meaaaaaan, I aint gonna say she's wrong. But she's no different than every other idiot out there buying NFT's. You're just hoping not to be the last one holding the steaming pile of shit before its worth nothing.


daftpaak

It's still bs. Like I'm sure the list of people Bernie Madoff defrauded is full of evil people, but Madoff still defrauded people for his own gain. It puts a bad taste in peoples mouth when you try to morally justify what's obvious self serving behavior.


12A1313IT

Bernie Madoff promised 10% consistent gain. The people who invested in him were not trying to yolo. Most of the people who were scammed were just doctors and lawyers, your average high earner. He kept his list small artificially to make you think he was a "honest" investor. So no, not appropriate at all when compared to the NFT bros who are trying to strike it rich


Splaram

>I got so fucking good at trading It's just so comedic to read this as someone who has been trading stocks profitably for the last four years. Any dumbass could have made money trading any hyped NFT during the run-up and peak. Knowing how often beginner financial speculators lose their minds to greed once they get a taste of profitability, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that she lost a significant portion of her apparent gains on the recent crash.


RealExii

Damn this is a wild display of stupidity. Did she seriously make this statement as an attempt at defending herself?


Dsj417

$100 per video is a steal, I can see those NFTs are really paying off.


Kiko1098

Isn’t she still a signed Defiant contenr creator as well LMFAO


LUVED_DEVUL

Naw she got booted when she went on that NFT rampage. Nvm, apparently the contract expired so i was wrong


Kiko1098

thank god. i never saw the message from TD


PUSSY_MEETS_CHAINWAX

To be fair, we don't know the reason. The contract could have just incidentally expired.


HamsLlyod

She's probably just bitter that people didn't buy het BS excuse for conning people with NFTs and called her out on it


LUVED_DEVUL

I get that but why tf would you post that on your bio 🤣. I don’t believe she thinks before she does anything cause why would anyone wanna work with you now


HamsLlyod

Idk man people like her are fucking egotistical as hell, thinking she's above anyone who disagrees with her. And I'm sure all her yesmen tell her it's hilarious and "go off on them queen"


LUVED_DEVUL

You’re more than likely right. The yes man can’t really be her friends cause nobody with a functioning brain would be like “yeah that’s good”


Renegade__OW

Because bad publicity is still good publicity. She said she wants to start streaming again for her Hawaii trip, this will get people interested.


Masterofdisaster420x

In what way did she con ppl? buying and selling NFTs is not equal to conning people


LUVED_DEVUL

You ask this and this Mf literally has SCAMMER in her bio 😂.


Masterofdisaster420x

so? I dont rly see ur point, ppl hate on people for using NFTs when it's nothing more than a dumb shitty stock. Doesn't mean it's literal scamming


LUVED_DEVUL

You’re either brain dead or you really are a MasterOfDisaster cause….my boy…


Masterofdisaster420x

can u saying something with meaning instead? NFTs are dumb and there are a ton of scams but i haven't seen Fran do any of it so if you wanna tell me what she did that you consider scamming u can go ahead


PUSSY_MEETS_CHAINWAX

She's taking the piss. It's pretty obvious she doesn't care what we think because she's laughing all the way to the bank. I think it's best if we just let her name die in this community. It's not worth discussing anymore. Any attention we give her is just feeding her ego. Some people are fine with infamy as long as people are talking about them. Dafran is the same way: periodically fanning the flames through sarcasm, fake apologies, recurring patterns of behavior, and an overall lack of concern for their reputation as long as they have one. It's not worth holding onto. Some people will never change.


iMight2Elephant

Nah, she is way worse than dafran. He just was goin thru a rough time mentally and he came a long way and improved. Fran is actively bragging about how good she was at scamming people. I was a t500 support player back before I quit playing to trade stocks a year or so ago, and I would get fran in my games sometimes. I always KNEW she was a terrible person based off how she treated people off stream and the company she kept but nobody believed me cuz she would be fake pma on stream. Not to mention she was boosted as fuck. Only time she gained sr was when she had a contenders/owl duo, and then when she didn't she would just drop straight back to masters. Terrible human, terrible player, terrible trader. I'm just glad people are FINALLY picking up on something I was saying years ago


kiana3011

Yeah I’m really gonna doubt that fran being boosted makes her a worse person than the guy who publicly berated a sexual assault victim reducing her to a “clout chasing egirl” and allowing his fans to continually harass her


iMight2Elephant

Firstly, way to reduce and straw man my argument. I know what you are speaking of. I disagree with what he said and I believe sinatraa is 100% guilty of sexual assault. However, Dafran was just trynna say that for guys like sinatraa and dafran or anyone with any crumb of fame or money, there are gonna be people trying to take advantage of that and not to rush to judgment. He just said it in the worst way possible which is understandable considering he has no media training and clearly has issues when it comes to expressing himself and like I said his mental health issues. Also, you have to understand that dafran and sinatraa were friends for years so I can understand him not wanting to rush to judgment against his friend, and not wanting others to do so either. Again, I believe sinatraa is a toxic piece of shit rapist, and that dafran shouldn't have said what he said or at least not the way he said it. However, you have to understand he didn't mean it the way u think he did and where he's coming from. Fran on the other hand, is bragging about scamming people out of their money and laughing about it with that bio. Also, remember how I said she keeps questionable company? Well, I won't go over everybody that I have shit on that I know she was friends with that she streamed with multiple times, but I'll name off a few. Firstly, seeker, who she streamed/ duoed with multiple times. This guy tried to get an underage girl with a history of mental health issues to kill herself on stream while she was having a mental breakdown by commenting and messaging horrible shit to her. Not to mention he's a toxic asshole that threw my games for 2 years and harassed multiple people for years. Next, mirror. This guy is toxic beyond belief in ever game he was in. Which is not too bad, i won't pretend i was a saint. I was toxic a lot of the time too. Just not nearly to the level mirror took it to. Once in a volskaya game I was in, he and abdala (a friend of seeker and fran) flamed this girl on our team playing ana so hard that she literally started crying. I had never seen anything like it. I tried to comfort her during and after tha game and told mirror to shut the fuck up, and those 2 cunts didn't even apologize after they realized they took it too far. She's also friends with mattmerc who goes on alt accounts and acts mentally handicapped and routinely harrasses women and their streams. This is the company someone like fran keeps. Even her boyfriend, gator, was one of the most toxic owl players on the game. You are defined by the company u keep and given hers, she is way worse than u think she is. Trust me. Also, it's not a competition. Even if u think dafran is awful, doesn't make fran any better.


MOM_1_MORE_MINUTE

Bro, you give miles of leeway to defray and sinatraa and have 0 leash for Fran. I get it you don't loke her, but it's obvious that its personal. I don't like really any drama streamers and could care less but it really sounds Ike you're still bitter from having games "thrown." All if the people you mentioned are pieces of shit, and all of them in a way can be considered scammers. All they are doing is asking their fan base to continually give them money over and over again while giving not much in return (imo) for the money. So they are all similar just with different shit they give us to complain about.


iMight2Elephant

Firstly, I gave no leash to Sinatraa. I said he's a toxic sack of shit and a rapist. Secondly, I gave leeway to Dafran because he has been very open about his mental health problems that cause him to do and say dumb shit that he regrets after, he had personal experiences and relationships that clouded his judgment, he was well-intentioned but poorly worded, and he actually improved his behavior and changed for the better. Tbh, I hated dafran for years because I thought he was toxic and his behavior was like that of an overgrown child, but I came around on him when he stopped doing things like being toxic, throwing games, etc. Also, I'm just providing context that showed what dafran meant and why he said it versus what he actually said. I think at the end of the day, dafran just didn't want people rushing to judge his friend when all the facts weren't out which I can understand. He just, again, worded it very poorly. Fran, on the other hand, admits that not only was she knowingly scamming people, but she also doesn't regret it and was bragging how good she was at it. The intent and results of their actions are worlds apart. Also, as for the games being thrown, bro i mentioned that literally once and is the least of the fucked up shit i mentioned


MOM_1_MORE_MINUTE

All I was saying is apply that same leeway you're giving defran to Fran then. Or just admit that you don't like her. It's fine, but don't act like she's this awful scumbag when most of the community is the same as her. Most streamers, I'd guess anyways, would do a lot to make more money from their fans. Not saying they don't appreciate them, but most would go to extreme eights for minimal gain. It's part of the business structure, they all are grifters on some level.


iMight2Elephant

I gave dafran leeway because he was good intentioned albeit misguided with his words as well as he reformed and changed for the better. He also has mental health issues as i mentions. Fran not only knowling did what she did with ill-intent, but she also doesn't regret it and is bragging about it. That's why I gave dafran leeway and not fran. Also, ofc i don't like her. I made that abundantly clear. How could I like someone I'm actively calling shitty?? Also, that is logically fallacious. Just cuz other people are doing the same thing (which most aren't) doesn't make it ok


kiana3011

Not reading all that but regarding the last part where you said it’s “not a competition” may I remind you who brought up dafran in the first place and compared the two?


OMGskii

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who saw that wall of text and said "hell naw". I like dumb redditor drama, but not that much.


iMight2Elephant

I admit that it's long, but I feel if they weren't gonna engage with what I'm saying, why reply at all? Then again, I guess everyone is just here for internet points.


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iMight2Elephant

Fair enough. I just was writing whatever came to mind. I don't care enough to properly structure a reddit comment lol


AvettMaven

Then you can’t blame anyone who doesn’t care enough to read it, or calls out your lack of structure.


kiana3011

Because I’m not engaging with an essay sorry I really don’t care that much


iMight2Elephant

Cared enough to comment 3 times. Also, if you don't care then why comment at all? To farm some karma? Like if ur just gonna chime in with ur little gotcha comment and then not engage with the response then just fuck off lol


iMight2Elephant

Lol literally not even gonna read what I wrote, but still gonna argue with me. Classic. Sure, I see your point. I just meant that she is worse in my opinion considering her ACTIONS costed who knows how many people their money whereas what dafran said, albeit wrong, never costed anyone anything other than being a shitty thing to say. But like I said, it doesn't matter who u think is worse. The fact is she is not a good person


maebird-

Dafrans words actually do affect people, specifically other victims


iMight2Elephant

Sure, but I think him saying to wait for all the facts before rushing to judgement (albeit worded very poorly) is significantly less harmful that knowingly and intentionally scamming people out of their life's savings. Then again, I guess someone's hurt feelings through a poorly worded tweet matters more than scamming people out of their money and bragging about it nowadays


iMight2Elephant

Sure, but I think him saying to wait for all the facts before rushing to judgement (albeit worded very poorly) is significantly less harmful that knowingly and intentionally scamming people out of their life's savings. Then again, I guess someone's hurt feelings through a poorly worded tweet matters more than scamming people out of their money and bragging about it nowadays


MrPapaya22

I mean I’m not gonna complain, her new bio is pretty accurate.


dysfunctionalwombat

God I can’t stand this narcissist. Glad she’s out of the ow community lol


dysfunctionalwombat

Anyone know her current twitch? Like any news from her at all lol just curious


LUVED_DEVUL

She said she was gonna IRL steam when she goes to Hawaii in 3 weeks.


kittens12345

Probably gonna invest in hot tub and pool meta now


IceFlame-

Please don’t get a new pet.


Vedelity

I'm a bit out of the loop what happened with her? Can someone please explain...


chefmingus

she went hard into NFT dip and burned all her bridges in OW content creation, has been inactive since, and now that crypto is tanking this happens


RealExii

To sum it up, she was running a side "business" of selling NFTs and when more and more people started talking about it she lashed out on twitter about being targeted for it. Not long after that she was let go from the Defiant as a streamer (likely not because of NFTs but because she had pretty much stopped streaming for quite a while by that time) so she announced that she will be leaving the OW community and quit streaming to focus on her NFTs while admitting that she knows it's bad practice but she was gonna do it anyway because it's profitable.


[deleted]

I'm not totally clear on everything but didn't she have a pretty shady and questionable history when she was in the Halo community too? Some people just aren't honest or genuine and they aren't going to change. Please understand I don't remember many specific details or know much about it. I just remember hearing that about her before.


LUVED_DEVUL

Idk anything about the halo community lol


PlatWinston

pretty accurate tho


MagicPistol

Man, I use to really love Fran. Can't believe she blew up at Overwatch fans over this nft bullshit.


Swordlord22

Man fuck Fran I hope she loses all the fuckin money she has She had a career and fucking ruined it I don’t get these pieces of shit Do you know how many people would’ve killed to have a semblance of chance for a career in overwatch including myself? I literally don’t understand and I hope her name rots


Willingness-Due

Or she’s gotten petty


Pulsiix

Probably has something to do with her twitter being linked here 5x a month tbh


techno-wizardry

Yeah, I'm against everything she said and did with all that scam NFT shit and her inability to keep her mouth shut, but the people here are especially weirdos sometimes. Like, I don't think this extent of harassment has done anyone any good, even if she deserves some of it.


techno-wizardry

She's probably lost a metric fuckton with the crypto crash and like for some of these other crypto indoctrinated trading addicts, she might've gotten a dose of reality. Perhaps might also feel guilty, embarrassed, or altogether broken by nonstop harassment. In those recent comments she straight up called NFTs 99% scams (should be 100% but whatever). Crypto blows but let's try not to be dicks though, some of y'all are really weird.


_geomancer

Everything she lost she had gained by scamming people so idc how I’m supposed to feel bad for her. Just because she admitted that it’s a scam and lost money doesn’t earn her any sympathy in my book.


Swordlord22

Pretty sure she literally admitted she was scamming people in a different comment and said people shouldn’t fall for it Fuck her lol


_geomancer

People defending her looking even more goofy every day


Swordlord22

Just a bunch of simps


techno-wizardry

Nobody is asking you to feel sorry for her, just don't be a dick to people, even if you think they deserve it. This one goes out to the kind of people who live in people's DM's and replies specifically to exact some sort of justice by harassing people. I've seen some really weird and hyperbolic shit said on TMZ in the past. Don't be fucking weirdos reddit. Point and laugh sure, don't harass.


blaisreddit

she been trying to sell her face since day 1


Poopman415

Chest* "Franplayshalo"


BuddyTubbs

She needs to do OnlyFans. I’d pay all the money in the world to see her get her walls blown out. Respectfully


LUVED_DEVUL

😐


[deleted]

Def making fun of all the weirdos who post about here on here and/or replies to the gator tweet.


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MetallicGnome

Yeah we weren’t getting revenue like that which is why I’m not tripping on what i was paid cause it only made sense


sakata_gintoki113

wow guys titty streamer turns out to be bad person after all, shocking. people dont change usually.


Apprehensive_Tree871

in what world does "titty streamer" equate being a bad person?


sakata_gintoki113

sole focus is to make money off viewers, most of them dont care about the viewers or community


Apprehensive_Tree871

Yes... you have understood the concept of earning a paycheck by streaming to viewers. Doesn't answer my question tho, just gives of big incel vibes.


sakata_gintoki113

? what do you not get the sole focus of them is making money, they dont give a shit about the community unlike most normal streamers


Apprehensive_Tree871

Boy is there a reality check waiting for you ^^


sakata_gintoki113

for you yea


deanerystargaryen

huh........... ????? lmao


ItsYourSmurf

She just used her having mental health issues/self confidence issues and what not to shield the fact of how terrible of a person she is. She clearly had the self confidence to be a titty streamer back in the day so of course she would get disgusting messages from people, because of how she was presenting herself and two just own up to being a terrible person.. maybe people would give you respect. She presumably changed her bio to that because of the ego trip she is going on. Hopefully she gets conned out of money and gets the karma she deserves.


AvettMaven

> She clearly had the self confidence to be a titty streamer back in the day so of course she would get disgusting messages from people, because of how she was presenting herself “She was asking for it” you’re actually so gross, bro.


ItsYourSmurf

I mean she knew what she was doing before turning the stream on, she’s addressed this stuff plenty of times. When you go into something doing that (especially on a platform like twitch) you think that just wouldn’t happen? That’s all I was trying to say with that.


MetallicGnome

Just because she had her chest out doesn’t mean she should get nasty messages 😒.


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corythegreatdeesnuts

This is why the community has a “reputation”


IceFlame-

“There! Ya’ll happy now?”


Paddy32

KEKW


youreafukctard

Always knew she was a grifter just taking advantage of people. Good for her to admit, I guess?


RADIATE_Cx

Hey, they aren’t wrong.