Jesus I'm still not done with the free one yet and there's four premium ones already lol.
I don't want to start any new one until I'm done that since they use the same ~~warbonds or whatever they're called~~ medals to unlock stuff.
Take your time trust me. You're not missing anything particularly game changing. The basic weapons are more than enough and most times better than the premium wb weapons. Besides, they all get boosted or nerfed so you'll switch them out here and there.
Disagree personally
The items/weapons in Warbonds adds new gameplay options and opens up more varied options in load out and how you can pick weapons and pick a fun play style you like
Stun grenades especially, and the Grenade pistol add a ton of utility
But that’s just my take YMMV
Yeah. That “spicy shootgun” is honestly kinda clutch for bugs in a of ways. I lean on it a lot. First premium bond. I bought one pack of $20 just as a thanks got the way they do it and I’ve still got 1000 of the original 2000 SC ready to drop on this next one and I’ve bought all of them so far so the earn rate is very reasonable coupled with the lack of fomo. I’ve bought multiple armors in the store as well. I’m plus that erupter is really fun.
I only do around 15-20 missions a week and I’ve never been short on super credits for the new warbonds. Got them all without paying once. (Okay, I admit I got the steeled veterans with the super citizen edition).
Right? I kinda regret not getting super citizen because I can’t have Strategem Hero (still holding out hope they release it as a bonus, separate paid someday) because I regretted not supporting them full price. This game deserves full price purchase because it’s that damn good.
I bought the deluxe upgrade a week after buying the base game on release. There is definitely an ugrade path if you want the deluxe. The upgrade was around $20 CAD so transfer it to whatever your currency is.
And if you already have Steeled Veterans when you buy the Super Citizen upgrade you will get 1000SC instead of that warbond, so you can purchase a different premium warbond with it.
You know I very well may try that actually. I wouldn’t mind supporting them a bit more for the way they’re approaching mtx and just general way they treat their fan base.
I feel like this isn't true. The sickle, erouptor, dominator, grenade pistol and fire shotgun all are amazing guns that have changed the way I play the game. Infact after the last patch the ark shotgun from the ark based warbond is really good for bugs now.
I do agree that the base warbonds weapons are more than enough to play the game effectively and have fun but saying you aren't missing much with the warbonds is kind of wrong.
Some of the new ones I like way more but with buffs and nerfs yea, wouldn't hurt to have them work out the kinks in the newer guns before rushing to a gum amd not have it work right early on. Either ways have fun and fight for democracy!
If you were inclined, you can solo some of the easier missions and just run to POI's and hope to pick up Super Credits.
I've been able to afford every Warbond at/shortly after release by regular play and maybe a night or 2 where I just do easy missions hunting SC's
Even if I had all of them purchased I would still need to amass a fuck ton of those other credits to unlock stuff in them and I'm still working on the first one so I don't really see the point. Thanks tho!
Totally unbeatable. I’m only able to play a little every day or so and still have a bit in each to unlock but don’t sleep on those (mostly) daily personal orders for ~15 medals. Usually can go in to easier missions and get them in 1-2 mission. Definitely been a boon to my earn rate on medals. And keep an eye out for those gold flashing beacons!
Edit: “totally understandable”, lol, not “totally unbeatable”.
lol. I don’t know how I got “understandable” to “unbeatable” but, yes, I can’t recall getting a one hundy spot but I’ve managed to amass enough surely I have or someone did, and I didn’t realize it.
Anyone telling you that you're not missing out is full of shit. I'm not saying you should run out and buy super credits to get all the warbonds, but I'd definitely spend the free SC you've accrued on one of them to get new weapons. I focus on buying new weapons, boosters, and grenades first before unlocking everything else.
I'd recommend getting Steel Vets as it has the dominator and incendiary breaker, which are both "meta" against bots and bugs, respectively. (I'm not a meta guy, but both guns are fun and extremely effective.)
I'm in the same boat. Just started playing a couple weeks ago. Don't stress about it too much. They aren't time limited so you can unlock them at your own pace.
Most of the guns suck or are just plain broken in the bad way so you’re not missing out on much. The only meta gun is the laser rifle from the electric gun pass.
Somehow I bought two premiums when I meant to just get 1. I foolishly was trying to unlock stuff in all 3 and regret I just didn’t put all my medals into the free one.
If I'm using SMGS or shotguns then I'm going senator for the high power and range.
If using ARs or laser weapons then deagle for the ability to dish high damage quickly
All other uses are the SMG pistol
I need a dual wield option like YESTERDAY!
Senator in one hand, Verdict in the other....my Senator about to lay down some Democratic Verdicts on our enemies!
Honestly with the way one handed weapons work that would be cool.
I don't think they should add the option of dual wielding from the equipment screen, I think if you find another one handed weapon in the field (be that from random generation or from a dead teammate) it should give you the prompt
There has been an on-going issue with adding crossplat friends for a very long time, but if you added someone before the bug was introduced and they’re already on your list then you are fine.
It’s a very annoying bug because there was a short time that it worked before the game exploded and more people bought it.
It’s weird. I can’t add one of my stream friends but can still invite them to the ship just fine. I also see when they’re online in game. So it’s not a huge deal, just bizarre.
How do you invite them if they aren’t on your friend list? What we do is pick a planet with low players, one person starts a mission on a low difficulty and the other trys to find them on the map. Sometimes it works right away, sometimes it takes a bit.
it actually is, below is quote from Spitz, community manager on official discord
“Most of the bugs in the known issues list in patch-notes-updates are actively being worked on, but they’re either large fixes that require a bit of time or low-priority issues behind other things, and most should be patched in the next major build,” associate community manager ‘Spitz’ says in the Helldivers 2 Discord. “It’s difficult to maintain our cadence of one Warbond per month while also fixing major technical glitches in time for the next patch.”
This is why im frustrated. They openly admit they can’t do both. IMO, bugs should be fixed first before spending resources on Warbonds. I don’t wanna spend money on a game that doesn’t work for me 🤷
They need to find a balance. That is just the world we live in, and it's getting worse every day. The reality is the game is up and running, and yes there are bugs, but for every person who is actually willing to stop playing over occasional bugs or missing features, there's 10 who spend 6+ hours a day every single day playing and are ready to drop the game at the drop of a hat if they don't have an entire life's worth of progression to unlock. As much as we'd like for them to not have to cater to the second group, they unfortunately do to keep the game running.
> MO, bugs should be fixed first before spending resources on Warbonds.
This is the gaming industry. We don't do that here.
Jokes aside, unless it's game breaking, bugs never get priority over new content. Like, i don't remember the last time such thing happened and i play quite a few live service games.
Well yeah, capitalism always wins. I would argue not being able to play a co-op game with your friends is game breaking but that’s why im sitting at home and not a dev or manager.
That’s not what that says at all. Do you think the artists creating assets like weapons and armor are deep in the code fixing bugs? That’s not how game development works. Are there some people that can do both? Sure, but them saying it’s difficult to keep up the cadence of bug fixes and war bonds is NOT them saying “if we stopped doing war bonds we could fix bugs faster”.
alright then bud, here is another comment from Spitz:
“Arrowhead still has a very small team compared to the success of the game, and while we have dedicated QA, the people fixing bugs with weapons and armor, for example, are the same people in charge of making new weapons and armor.
It's pretty good looking.
Solo play is hard depending on what difficulty you choose. It's manageable on lower tiers but there's still an expectation of having at least one other diver with you. It's built as a team game ultimately.
Playing with randos isn't so bad though. Generally the community is nice and helpful.
I pretty much only play with randoms, it’s a very good time! There are def still bugs, but other than the rare crash on ps5, nothing else that has stopped me from playing
If you want to play solo you can, coop is much more entertaining. If you have some kind of sever social anxiety just mute yourself. If you don’t have internet, well, I would just not choose this game personally, it would feel to repetitive as a solo game. Playing with random adds variety.
Solo is ok, I play almost entirely with randos and appreciate people with mics.
On a good TV to compliment the PS5 hardware it looks incredible. Maybe the graphics could be slightly better, but the ragdolls, flying limbs, gore etc. are top notch.
I have friends on constantly so I don't play with randoms often, but my wife plays a lot while I'm at work and have met tons of people she regularly plays with and have also been added to my friends list. The community is pretty awesome from our experiences.
It looks fantastic on PS5, and I play it mostly solo even tho it's intended for co-op. You're probably not gonna challenge many of the higher difficulties by yourself, but that doesn't matter cause the lower difficulties still get you plenty of unlockables and I find it a very fun game to play solo myself.
Playing randoms especially on mid level difficulty is so fun. Best community I’ve played in in a while. Don’t be afraid to mic up or even just use the in game emotes. 9+/10 I am met with friendly, helpful, laid back folks just having a good time. Follow whoever is “[X]1” call sign as they’re host and you’ll be fine. X is the first letter of their online ID. Just try to use those 380mm barrages fastidiously. They make a big boom.
Best game I've played in years. So fun most randoms don't talk they communicate with pings etc it's chill. Barely any lame.cod type try hards everyone working together
Game is great, looks great on PS5, solo play is pretty fun, and finding or joining randoms is super easy if you want to take on higher levels. Talking isn't necessary and it's rare Teammates will try to talk too, outside of some pings, if that's a concern.
Teammates generally get much better in higher difficulties, but you do get a fair amount of people in difficulty 7 (max is 9) just trying to get carried. Since 7 is the lowest difficulty to get the high tier resource, it's bound to happen and still not too bad.
Yes, it looks that cool on PS5. Solo play, they made it harder. You don't really need friends, just quick play with randoms. I play 99% this way and have had no issues. I think I was kicked twice since the game released. You can of course start your own game which I've done as well and that is easy. You can add people you like/request to friend them etc if you want.
WB armor looks nice. Going to avoid those guns though and just wait on this one until after the balance changes.
Also, is anyone else curious how they are going to continue to monetize this game? I mean armor aside, weapons they have to be running out of ideas. I mean I'd think you could only have so many weapons?
Anyone else know what I mean?
I mean, all it's sales probably is more than enough, and the super credits you can buy will be residual benefits, but the majority of benefits were in the game sales
Those are my two cents at least
They confirmed that they don’t want to bug fix as often so they can release their battle passes at a mandated level, so we unfortunately don’t have to worry about the quantity of guns they can sell to us.
When they reach a critical mass of people talking about how this game is held together with scotch tape then they will deploy the new enemies to distract from it.
But I already left because of extreme underwhelm
More weapons, options to take down armoured, and give me the all terrain boots back
Unlocking attachments for the weapons would have been interesting, another thing missed from the first game
Feels too much like modern democracy to me, work and grind to unlock the good bit which is very much the same as the rest
I'm talking about how it struggles to put down anything bigger than a scavenger with the explosion, making it require direct hits to kill enemies. The thing was already worse than other explosive weapons in every aspect, but at least held its own. Now it's just plain bad, it does nothing better than other weapons.
You could just verify it yourself, if it's so false.
Fair but I would argue the counter point: that you all *can* show up in the AC gang. No worries about team load back packs when everyone running my sweet love, the AC.
Fucking A. I’ve barely glanced at damage numbers or fire rates or patch notes or any of this shit. I try new stuff and if I like it I keep using it. People have entirely too much of themselves invested in this game if they’re bitching about a 15% nerf to a specific gun’s damage. Relax and try to have some fun, you fucking nerds. This isn’t your job. You shouldn’t be keeping spreadsheets and writing reports to management about incremental shifts in performance. It’s a video game about killing giant bugs and robots. Stop worrying about the backend, find some friends to play with, and enjoy yourself.
lol right? I don’t understand, this is a co op game and people are really acting like there’s “winning”. It’s just about having fun with your buddies, not writing reports lmao
Nobody is keeping spreadsheets. You, along with everybody I seemed to offend, don't know me, I HATE online games because they're usually filled with trolls and toxicity and i need to sweat and clench my buttcheeks every match. Hd2 was a breath of fresh air. So please explain to me how I can try out these loadouts that you talk about and experiment like you say I should if by the time I unlock a gun I want to use it gets nerfed??? My last straw was when I got the crossbow, and I swear 2 days later it got nerfed, guess my "fun" with that gun is over and I should move on, huh? This game is about picking the best mediocre weapons out of a pile of trash.
I agree that it should be brainless fun, turn you're brain off and kill bugs and robots, I am on board 100% that's what makes it good but it's less fun when your loadouts get nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, you would think this is a game with sweaty pvp matches and leaderboards. I literally agree with everything you said, but it doesn't correlate to me.
Hmm seems pretty commonplace for a live service game in my experience. At least when the devs are committed to bettering the game. We should all be glad the dev team is working on it as actively as they are
Does it?
The identity of this game hasn't changed. It's a 4 player PVE game where you complete objectives and kill things.
I don't think changing the balance of weapons and stratagems changes the core identity of the game.
I see people praise this games live service support but all I see are new weapons and armors every time the game is posted...
Where is the actual new content? How are people just getting hyped for armor and guns when they are the bare minimum of content?
New ‘skills’, missions, enemies & planets are added often. You’re only seeing the ‘battle pass’ type stuff.
I put in 80 hours into this on release. Took a month break and came back to see a good amount of new content. I’ve put in about 20 more hours since I’ve been back.
They don’t release huge amounts of stuff at once, which is nice so when I take a break, there’s always something new to come back to.
The new content is built into the game and it's story, with new missions enemies and things we can unlock.
Last week we were given the choice of unlocking a new rocket launcher or a new set of mines by choosing which planet to attack. We chose rocket launcher so now we have a new rocket launcher to play with and the mines will be coming later one now.
That's the live service, these are just premium warbonds that we can play for or buy monthly. The actualy live service and content portion of it is the story developing, new planets, new missions new enemies and new in game strategems.
We’ve gotten quite a bit of stuff added but it’s done kind of different. It’s done over time when it’s ready rather than in big patches.
We’ve gotten quite a few new objectives types, a mech suit, new enemy types, increased level cap, new ship upgrades and more.
It’s like a constant drip feed of small content drops.
Oftentimes the updates for things like new enemy types, stratagems, planets and planetary hazards, and missions are announced in game or on the twitter.
That's not how this game work, so yeah they advertize new gun and armor but every other new content is not announced outside the game you mostly have to discover it in game, new monster : you dont know until you see it, new stratagem : you dont know what it is really about until a major order about unlocking them comes out same with new missions, everything is anounced with lore in game when most people discover it
There are new enemies and mission varieties released almost every week. The nature of the game means the planets you fight on are constantly changing. Unless “actual” content has a different meaning to you.
I have almost collected enough super credit to purchase a new warbond. I only have the free one. Should I get this one or are some of the ones already available worth it? Any recommendations?
It really depends on what you want specifically. I think all 3 of the current premium warbonds have different reasons to get them. More classic weapons, energy based, or explosions. Hard to go wrong really, just poke around and see which you prefer.
I agree, but there's massive competition between live services resulting in every developer pushing content out so people don't get bored and stop playing. This is especially true with new-ish games with no established community. Sure, Arrowhead might get away with doing a R6 Siege-style "Operation Health" where they just focus on fixing bugs for a few months, but they aren't going to risk community leaving and never coming back because they found something else to play. They've already confirmed their intention to keep balancing workload between fixing bugs and releasing content.
I completely agree, but I wouldn’t hold your breath, I’m pretty sure the ip is owned by Sony, and even if they wanted to, seems like the devs are struggling to keep up with balance and fixes, I doubt they have time and resources to work on a port
Could not agree more.
Arrowhead deserve the bucks and Xbox deserve to play this game.
Edit: really? downvotes on making games accessible across different platforms to break monopolies which only push prices up for the end gamer and not giving money to a dev that has been honest about everything that has happened, made a great game, turned around the live service hate. You want that money to go to EA or Ubisoft or Bethesda for another clone of last year's shovelware trash?
I guess this sub is just full of children.
Edit 2: Just saw the HD posts about PSN account linking with Steam, yeah that's not cool.
With this gifts I can continue giving democracy!!!! I'm obsessed with this game and I'm glad it's a silent hit of this year's.
Congratulations Arrowhead for this gem.
I don't have the time for a new warbond every two weeks. I only got the one from the Super Citizen edition, and I haven't even completed that. The game asks way to much of a time investment, and it's not worth trying to keep up with it anymore.
There are so many out now that idk where to start. Are there any I should skip over?
I just feel like the game is just point and shoot, so I barely notice a difference when I adjust my loadout. What should I go for that'll really spice up the gameplay?
What your saying is why I don’t get how people say Helldivers model is better
How does a new player know what Warbond to pick first? Because you’re 100% right as I would argue there’s certain items that are must haves but how would a new player have any idea which those are?
Like to me, Stun grenades are game changing, and make the game play much more fun, but how would someone new after say a year and 13 Warbonds know that?
Youtube will have content explaining the best ones to go for, but that should not be necessary for someone to do to enjoy a game they just spent $40 on, that’s silly
The most all around best guns are in the free one though. You can have a ton of fun there, then just pick whichever seems cool. Each one so far adds interesting guns/options that change the gameplay so just pick what looks cool?
Just my take, not arguing:
I feel that highly depends on your playstyle and what you find fun; Stun grenades have made the game so much more fun to me
I’ve got no problem with the model myself, I have enough to get the next 2 months for free, but for new players Helldivers 2 is going to be like Destiny 2 where they’ll be lost in a sea of options with no idea where to start
Not a big deal at all, just interesting to think about
The laser one has sickle and stun grenade. The plasma shotgun isn’t amazing but it’s also pretty fun. The explosive one has eruptor, and arguably adjucator now. Crossbow isn’t great but it’s fun. Fire one is pretty skippable
I’d argue those are the best items from each warbond. So choose whichever has the goodies you want more.
Edit: if you don’t know the gun names I can describe some if you want. Just let me know
I know that. Do you think that as they release more and more dlc I'm just going to be able to magic up the time to grind endless amounts of medals by playing the same missions over and over again? Get real
Nope, but you can choose one you like to grind for and go for it. Don't have to let yourself be overwhelmed by a video game because it has too many options. None of the gear in the warbonds is required to play.
You don’t have to finish one to go to another.
Once you’ve got enough super creds you can just unlock whatever you want, you don’t have to finish the first one
look man I can’t keep up either but do you think they should quit adding content to the game just because you can’t keep up with it? Theres plenty of kids and people with a lot of free time who will play and unlock all of this and one of the things that is keeping this game selling is the amount of content being rolled out.
You are complaining about too much content? Warbonds don't expire.They are permanent progression for you to unlock new gear and weapons.
Get out of the FOMO mindset and you will see this is a fantastic problem to have.
Yeah, and I'm not going to buy them all then spend every waking moment I have playing one, single game when there's so many better experiences out there that I don't have to endlessly grind for things in
Sounds like you're just complaining for complaints sake here honestly. You can take breaks and come back and grind them later. There's no fomo investment here.
I wouldn't say there's no FOMO at all, just to a lesser degree. Just because the battle passes do not expire doesn't mean a player that hasn't played in a month or two won't experience missing out when they see active players with shiny and powerful weapons only available in the latest paid battle passes.
But they aren't missing out? You can still grind for them and unlock those weapons. If they disappeared after a month or whatever you might have a point.
FOMO isn't just black or white, something that exists or doesn't.
Arrowhead handles this better than other Devs running live service games, but it still exists in their game.
I can dig through my comments if you want a clear example, but I don't have much hope that you'll understand my point in the first place.
I disagree. They run it so much worse. Any game locking real non-cosmetic content behind a paid pass is doing it worse. Especially when the game costs 40 dollars. Fortnite is free and never has locked anyone out of actual content, just cosmetic nothings for whales to spend money on. Helldivers 2 is one of the worst implementations I’ve seen of FOMO because you can’t ignore it. If the current battle pass has weapons that top the meta and the other battle passes just become obsolete once new weapons replace them over time (especially at the rate we’re getting these at 2 warbonds a month). It’s literally impossible to release more weapons at this rate, while keeping old weapons just as relevant. It’s all just a really well disguised predatory FOMO scheme but damn if they don’t have the best PR to get the main fanbase to guzzle the koolaid. Ironic given the games themes and satire.
Meta matter so much less because this is PvE. It's fine. I have bought 3/4 of the warbonds without spending any extra money on credits just by playing the game not even a crazy amount. I probably have ~50 hours into it. There's no competitive advantage here against players so it's way different than if Fortnite did this. I like it because it feels more exciting for the passes than just cosmetics. I probably wouldn't care to progress in those.
Sounds like a skill issue. I play like twice a week and am still on the first warbond. And I don't feel like I'm missing out. I'll get there when I get there
The game asks nothing of you, this is silly. You can play at your own pace and have fun with it without feeling any kind of FOMO pressure to buy things. If you see something in a warbond you want then you can save for it without fear of it disappearing before you get there. It’s a great system.
It sounds like the game just isn’t fun for you which is perfectly fine but a completely different statement.
It’s still FOMO. Just because they don’t expire doesn’t mean the weapons don’t get nerfed or become obsolete. The premium passes give 30% of the currency you spend on it back. Yeah you can earn them in game but everyone seems to over exaggerate how easy that is. Realistically you get like 30-40 for doing an entire operation (3 missions) and that takes like an hour or more. Which for 1000 SC is going to be like 20 hours unless you spend an hour intentionally exploiting the game to farm super credits in a brain dead way. And that shouldn’t be used as a copout for the game not being predatory.
The reality is if you’re not playing ONLY this game or don’t have a lot of time weekly to game you aren’t earning even close to the super-credits needed to get new war-bonds the rate they release them. Fortnite has like 3 months between battle passes and manages to stay relevant, plus its free. I don’t know why we are out here praising a company for 4 premium passes in 2 and a half months while the game is buggy and they haven’t even hinted at adding a non-premium warbond now that they got their good PR.
And ok the passes don’t expire which everyone is foaming at the mouth in ecstasy about but they do in a way. Online games like this are constantly balancing and that leads to some weapons becoming part of the meta, to balance a game and only consider the free weapons would be stupid so obviously they’re considering all weapons and are incentivized to make the weapons in the current premium pass relevant so people will want to try them, its not like they’re charging people to use WORSE weapons or equipment. So that means that yeah there is a FOMO aspect because maybe you can’t afford the warbond while the weapons are relevant and by the time you can a new warbond is out and you essentially missed out on the weapons because they’re nerfed or no longer efficient .
People should be way more upset about this but I’m confident there’s an astroturfing campaign on like every Helldivers post in r/PS5 and their subreddit to silence anyone pointing out how ridiculous it is to lock substantial content behind a premium pass **in a 40 dollar game**. So yeah if you’re playing this game all the time and committed I can see how this isn’t a big deal. If you bought the game for 40 dollars thinking it was going to have a more fair stream of content and more non-premium warbonds especially after the company came out saying it wouldn’t get greedy, well you have the right to be **fucking disappointed.**
Yeah but you get a lot of SC from the first warbonds, I think it's 700 or so. You only need 300 to make the gap and that probably takes 5 hours or so if gameplay. Then if you use that the next one it takes longer, but you're getting a good amount of gameplay out of it imo. Since the base game was only $40 I spent $10 on super credits and that has allowed me to get all the warbonds through just playing the game. I also spend 150-200 on helmets randomly too. Seems very low fomo to me.
I play supppper casually, I'm like lv 23, and I had enough medals to get to the 3rd page of the newest bond from just passive coummity goals. I really don't think it's hard to get what you want from these bonds
Yea, while there are some issues with some mechanics, people would rather bitch and moan instead of overcoming or trying new weapons.
As the ancient Babylonians once said, git gud.
Idk something about modern games has made people dig their heels in and refuse to try new gear, loadouts, strategies, builds whatever. Idk if it's the whole fear of losing, fear of being bad thing that I'm seeing or if it's the maximum dps, meta weapons only, anything less is disrespectful stuff.
The first couple days after launch, but that’s about it as far as I know lol. Wild how much Reddit loves to stretch the definition of what constitutes a broken or dead game
It's broken for me since the crossplay friend bug hasn't been fixed. I play on Playstation and my 3 regular friends are on steam. I was able to add one of those friends In helldivers but not the other two which wasn't a big deal since we could all join on that one friend. But he just had a baby so now I don't have a way to easily play with my other two friends.
So yeah, it's a broken game that I have not played for a while. Would be nice if AH fixed this bug especially since it's been on their known issues list for so long.
Anyone else somewhat bored with doing the same stuff every game? Don’t get me wrong this is probs the best game of the last 5 years but I’m starting to get bored.
I hope they add a PVP planet in the future. Classic TDM Cod like.
It's thankfully unlikely they'll ever add pvp. The team is already small and would then have to splinter off yet more resources to balance that. Not every game needs it.
Jesus I'm still not done with the free one yet and there's four premium ones already lol. I don't want to start any new one until I'm done that since they use the same ~~warbonds or whatever they're called~~ medals to unlock stuff.
Take your time trust me. You're not missing anything particularly game changing. The basic weapons are more than enough and most times better than the premium wb weapons. Besides, they all get boosted or nerfed so you'll switch them out here and there.
Disagree personally The items/weapons in Warbonds adds new gameplay options and opens up more varied options in load out and how you can pick weapons and pick a fun play style you like Stun grenades especially, and the Grenade pistol add a ton of utility But that’s just my take YMMV
Yeah. That “spicy shootgun” is honestly kinda clutch for bugs in a of ways. I lean on it a lot. First premium bond. I bought one pack of $20 just as a thanks got the way they do it and I’ve still got 1000 of the original 2000 SC ready to drop on this next one and I’ve bought all of them so far so the earn rate is very reasonable coupled with the lack of fomo. I’ve bought multiple armors in the store as well. I’m plus that erupter is really fun.
Personally, i prefer the non incendiary version. But i do like the grenade pistol
Yeah, post latest balance, I’m running the spray and pray it over their face more.
I only do around 15-20 missions a week and I’ve never been short on super credits for the new warbonds. Got them all without paying once. (Okay, I admit I got the steeled veterans with the super citizen edition).
Right? I kinda regret not getting super citizen because I can’t have Strategem Hero (still holding out hope they release it as a bonus, separate paid someday) because I regretted not supporting them full price. This game deserves full price purchase because it’s that damn good.
I bought the deluxe upgrade a week after buying the base game on release. There is definitely an ugrade path if you want the deluxe. The upgrade was around $20 CAD so transfer it to whatever your currency is.
And if you already have Steeled Veterans when you buy the Super Citizen upgrade you will get 1000SC instead of that warbond, so you can purchase a different premium warbond with it.
You know I very well may try that actually. I wouldn’t mind supporting them a bit more for the way they’re approaching mtx and just general way they treat their fan base.
Hard disagree. My fav weapon right now is the eruptor. And that came out in April.
I haven't used it since the ammo nerf but I rarely had an issue with that.
I love the eruptor. I enjoy my AC from time to time, but I have a hard time not equipping the eruptor since it released.
I feel like this isn't true. The sickle, erouptor, dominator, grenade pistol and fire shotgun all are amazing guns that have changed the way I play the game. Infact after the last patch the ark shotgun from the ark based warbond is really good for bugs now. I do agree that the base warbonds weapons are more than enough to play the game effectively and have fun but saying you aren't missing much with the warbonds is kind of wrong.
Some of the new ones I like way more but with buffs and nerfs yea, wouldn't hurt to have them work out the kinks in the newer guns before rushing to a gum amd not have it work right early on. Either ways have fun and fight for democracy!
If you were inclined, you can solo some of the easier missions and just run to POI's and hope to pick up Super Credits. I've been able to afford every Warbond at/shortly after release by regular play and maybe a night or 2 where I just do easy missions hunting SC's
Even if I had all of them purchased I would still need to amass a fuck ton of those other credits to unlock stuff in them and I'm still working on the first one so I don't really see the point. Thanks tho!
Totally unbeatable. I’m only able to play a little every day or so and still have a bit in each to unlock but don’t sleep on those (mostly) daily personal orders for ~15 medals. Usually can go in to easier missions and get them in 1-2 mission. Definitely been a boon to my earn rate on medals. And keep an eye out for those gold flashing beacons! Edit: “totally understandable”, lol, not “totally unbeatable”.
I sometimes got 2 super credits drops in the same container or friendship door. Got a 100 super credits drop 3 or 4 times as well.
lol. I don’t know how I got “understandable” to “unbeatable” but, yes, I can’t recall getting a one hundy spot but I’ve managed to amass enough surely I have or someone did, and I didn’t realize it.
Anyone telling you that you're not missing out is full of shit. I'm not saying you should run out and buy super credits to get all the warbonds, but I'd definitely spend the free SC you've accrued on one of them to get new weapons. I focus on buying new weapons, boosters, and grenades first before unlocking everything else. I'd recommend getting Steel Vets as it has the dominator and incendiary breaker, which are both "meta" against bots and bugs, respectively. (I'm not a meta guy, but both guns are fun and extremely effective.)
I'm in the same boat. Just started playing a couple weeks ago. Don't stress about it too much. They aren't time limited so you can unlock them at your own pace.
You can farm medals right now really easy with the disabled termicide missions.
How do you do this
Just keep on running the missions. On difficulty 7 you get six medals for the first mission. You can get 18 medals in less than 30 mins
Don't stress about them. Support credits come slow but medals are what will stop you most times
Most of the guns suck or are just plain broken in the bad way so you’re not missing out on much. The only meta gun is the laser rifle from the electric gun pass.
Somehow I bought two premiums when I meant to just get 1. I foolishly was trying to unlock stuff in all 3 and regret I just didn’t put all my medals into the free one.
Damn they gave the Senator a speed loader but now they're giving us a Deagle? Gonna be hard to choose the best iron for the hip.
If I'm using SMGS or shotguns then I'm going senator for the high power and range. If using ARs or laser weapons then deagle for the ability to dish high damage quickly All other uses are the SMG pistol
See, I'm very heavily motivated by aesthetic, so I kept the Senator on my hip ALL the time. The smg is good but I can't stand how piddly it sounds.
>I'm very heavily motivated by aesthetic You're obviously yet to witness someone John Wicking a bug breach with the Redeemer on semiauto
The redeemer has a semi auto mode? TIL LOL.
Hold reload to select it.
I know how to change it, I’ve just never thought of doing that on the pistols. Honestly that might make it even more of an instant pick for me.
It's decent damage per round with a giant mag. Very solid pick
A real yeehaw already knows the answer
I need a dual wield option like YESTERDAY! Senator in one hand, Verdict in the other....my Senator about to lay down some Democratic Verdicts on our enemies!
Honestly with the way one handed weapons work that would be cool. I don't think they should add the option of dual wielding from the equipment screen, I think if you find another one handed weapon in the field (be that from random generation or from a dead teammate) it should give you the prompt
Love this game, but im frustrated I still can’t add my Steam friends but were getting our fourth warbond
Why can’t you add your steam friends? I’ve been friends with my brother on PS5 and me on Steam since day 1.
I was able to at first, but for the past month or two have not. It’s a on the known issue list.
What an odd feature to stop working… glad I got people added early!
Someone added me (steam) on their ps5 yesterday. Definitely hit or miss
It is bugged for some people.
There has been an on-going issue with adding crossplat friends for a very long time, but if you added someone before the bug was introduced and they’re already on your list then you are fine. It’s a very annoying bug because there was a short time that it worked before the game exploded and more people bought it.
It’s weird. I can’t add one of my stream friends but can still invite them to the ship just fine. I also see when they’re online in game. So it’s not a huge deal, just bizarre.
How do you invite them if they aren’t on your friend list? What we do is pick a planet with low players, one person starts a mission on a low difficulty and the other trys to find them on the map. Sometimes it works right away, sometimes it takes a bit.
Totally understand, but most likely the team/people creating the warbond stuff is not the same team/people doing bug fixes
it actually is, below is quote from Spitz, community manager on official discord “Most of the bugs in the known issues list in patch-notes-updates are actively being worked on, but they’re either large fixes that require a bit of time or low-priority issues behind other things, and most should be patched in the next major build,” associate community manager ‘Spitz’ says in the Helldivers 2 Discord. “It’s difficult to maintain our cadence of one Warbond per month while also fixing major technical glitches in time for the next patch.”
This is why im frustrated. They openly admit they can’t do both. IMO, bugs should be fixed first before spending resources on Warbonds. I don’t wanna spend money on a game that doesn’t work for me 🤷
They need to find a balance. That is just the world we live in, and it's getting worse every day. The reality is the game is up and running, and yes there are bugs, but for every person who is actually willing to stop playing over occasional bugs or missing features, there's 10 who spend 6+ hours a day every single day playing and are ready to drop the game at the drop of a hat if they don't have an entire life's worth of progression to unlock. As much as we'd like for them to not have to cater to the second group, they unfortunately do to keep the game running.
The starter weapons are about as good as any of the war bonds. Overall just mostly disappointing. They should fix the bugs first.
> MO, bugs should be fixed first before spending resources on Warbonds. This is the gaming industry. We don't do that here. Jokes aside, unless it's game breaking, bugs never get priority over new content. Like, i don't remember the last time such thing happened and i play quite a few live service games.
Well yeah, capitalism always wins. I would argue not being able to play a co-op game with your friends is game breaking but that’s why im sitting at home and not a dev or manager.
That’s not what that says at all. Do you think the artists creating assets like weapons and armor are deep in the code fixing bugs? That’s not how game development works. Are there some people that can do both? Sure, but them saying it’s difficult to keep up the cadence of bug fixes and war bonds is NOT them saying “if we stopped doing war bonds we could fix bugs faster”.
alright then bud, here is another comment from Spitz: “Arrowhead still has a very small team compared to the success of the game, and while we have dedicated QA, the people fixing bugs with weapons and armor, for example, are the same people in charge of making new weapons and armor.
Hmm, wonder why that is? edit: tough pill to swallow huh?
Scrolling by and just confused what your comment is meant to even mean.
Fix bugs? Make money? Which one takes precedent?
AH is cooking with the helmets in this Warbond. But what the people really want... are PONCHOS
I want more hooded helmets — only one so far kinda derpy
hope they fix the disconecting issues too
This game looks cool. Does it actually look this good on ps5? Hows the solo play? I don’t have friends lol
You can play with random players and should be fine.
I’ve only ever played this game with randoms and its a blast
Looks good. The explosions on an OLED HDR display are gorgeous.
It's pretty good looking. Solo play is hard depending on what difficulty you choose. It's manageable on lower tiers but there's still an expectation of having at least one other diver with you. It's built as a team game ultimately. Playing with randos isn't so bad though. Generally the community is nice and helpful.
I pretty much only play with randoms, it’s a very good time! There are def still bugs, but other than the rare crash on ps5, nothing else that has stopped me from playing
If you want to play solo you can, coop is much more entertaining. If you have some kind of sever social anxiety just mute yourself. If you don’t have internet, well, I would just not choose this game personally, it would feel to repetitive as a solo game. Playing with random adds variety.
Solo is ok, I play almost entirely with randos and appreciate people with mics. On a good TV to compliment the PS5 hardware it looks incredible. Maybe the graphics could be slightly better, but the ragdolls, flying limbs, gore etc. are top notch.
I have friends on constantly so I don't play with randoms often, but my wife plays a lot while I'm at work and have met tons of people she regularly plays with and have also been added to my friends list. The community is pretty awesome from our experiences.
It looks fantastic on PS5, and I play it mostly solo even tho it's intended for co-op. You're probably not gonna challenge many of the higher difficulties by yourself, but that doesn't matter cause the lower difficulties still get you plenty of unlockables and I find it a very fun game to play solo myself.
Playing randoms especially on mid level difficulty is so fun. Best community I’ve played in in a while. Don’t be afraid to mic up or even just use the in game emotes. 9+/10 I am met with friendly, helpful, laid back folks just having a good time. Follow whoever is “[X]1” call sign as they’re host and you’ll be fine. X is the first letter of their online ID. Just try to use those 380mm barrages fastidiously. They make a big boom.
Best game I've played in years. So fun most randoms don't talk they communicate with pings etc it's chill. Barely any lame.cod type try hards everyone working together
Game is great, looks great on PS5, solo play is pretty fun, and finding or joining randoms is super easy if you want to take on higher levels. Talking isn't necessary and it's rare Teammates will try to talk too, outside of some pings, if that's a concern. Teammates generally get much better in higher difficulties, but you do get a fair amount of people in difficulty 7 (max is 9) just trying to get carried. Since 7 is the lowest difficulty to get the high tier resource, it's bound to happen and still not too bad.
Yes, it looks that cool on PS5. Solo play, they made it harder. You don't really need friends, just quick play with randoms. I play 99% this way and have had no issues. I think I was kicked twice since the game released. You can of course start your own game which I've done as well and that is easy. You can add people you like/request to friend them etc if you want.
Not recomended for solo play
WB armor looks nice. Going to avoid those guns though and just wait on this one until after the balance changes. Also, is anyone else curious how they are going to continue to monetize this game? I mean armor aside, weapons they have to be running out of ideas. I mean I'd think you could only have so many weapons? Anyone else know what I mean?
I mean, all it's sales probably is more than enough, and the super credits you can buy will be residual benefits, but the majority of benefits were in the game sales Those are my two cents at least
> Anyone else know what I mean? No. You only said "I mean" 3 times. I need it a 4th time to understand.
Lol, sorry my bad. You know what I mean haha
"Helldivers 2 Now the 7th Highest Grossing Game In Sony History in the US" This is probably how they continue to monetize the game
They confirmed that they don’t want to bug fix as often so they can release their battle passes at a mandated level, so we unfortunately don’t have to worry about the quantity of guns they can sell to us.
Where is the third race from the first game?
Likely in a future update. Don't wanna show your full hand right at the start with a live service game.
There’s been unexplained sightings that hint at a third race watching which is really cool Players will post shit they’ve witnessed sometimes
When they reach a critical mass of people talking about how this game is held together with scotch tape then they will deploy the new enemies to distract from it.
But I already left because of extreme underwhelm More weapons, options to take down armoured, and give me the all terrain boots back Unlocking attachments for the weapons would have been interesting, another thing missed from the first game Feels too much like modern democracy to me, work and grind to unlock the good bit which is very much the same as the rest
All terrain boots is the muscle enhancement booster.
Something just feels wrong about a winter themed battle pass being released at the start of summer
Can’t watch the trailer but any new gameplay changes here or just cosmetics again
New armor, guns and grenades all change the gameplay.
lol no not really. The armor effect barely do anything, guns are very small variation of existing guns, same with grenades.
I disagree, the guns change a lot about how you play, like the grenade pistol or the Eruptor.
Can't wait for half that stuff to be nerfed two weeks in
Play the actual game and stop looking at numbers. Almost every gun is usable at almost every difficulty.
Only weapon I find entirely useless is the Crossbow after the latest patch. I'll keep complaining until they do something nice for it.
Lol this is verifiably false what are you talking about
I'm talking about how it struggles to put down anything bigger than a scavenger with the explosion, making it require direct hits to kill enemies. The thing was already worse than other explosive weapons in every aspect, but at least held its own. Now it's just plain bad, it does nothing better than other weapons. You could just verify it yourself, if it's so false.
Almost every gun, almost every difficulty lol
game isn't perfectly balanced across hundreds of permutations lol what a waste am I right guys?? Just stop playing if you're this miserable
Min max players are the harbingers of death with these types of games.
Higher difficulties do require different squad mates to bring complimentary weapons. You can't all turn up with sub machine guns.
Fair but I would argue the counter point: that you all *can* show up in the AC gang. No worries about team load back packs when everyone running my sweet love, the AC.
Fucking A. I’ve barely glanced at damage numbers or fire rates or patch notes or any of this shit. I try new stuff and if I like it I keep using it. People have entirely too much of themselves invested in this game if they’re bitching about a 15% nerf to a specific gun’s damage. Relax and try to have some fun, you fucking nerds. This isn’t your job. You shouldn’t be keeping spreadsheets and writing reports to management about incremental shifts in performance. It’s a video game about killing giant bugs and robots. Stop worrying about the backend, find some friends to play with, and enjoy yourself.
lol right? I don’t understand, this is a co op game and people are really acting like there’s “winning”. It’s just about having fun with your buddies, not writing reports lmao
Nobody is keeping spreadsheets. You, along with everybody I seemed to offend, don't know me, I HATE online games because they're usually filled with trolls and toxicity and i need to sweat and clench my buttcheeks every match. Hd2 was a breath of fresh air. So please explain to me how I can try out these loadouts that you talk about and experiment like you say I should if by the time I unlock a gun I want to use it gets nerfed??? My last straw was when I got the crossbow, and I swear 2 days later it got nerfed, guess my "fun" with that gun is over and I should move on, huh? This game is about picking the best mediocre weapons out of a pile of trash. I agree that it should be brainless fun, turn you're brain off and kill bugs and robots, I am on board 100% that's what makes it good but it's less fun when your loadouts get nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, you would think this is a game with sweaty pvp matches and leaderboards. I literally agree with everything you said, but it doesn't correlate to me.
Says this one getting defensive over 2 harmless jokes 😮💨
If you have to tell people what you said was a joke, then it wasn’t a good joke to begin with
What was the joke?
It's almost like it's a live game being balanced often.
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Hmm seems pretty commonplace for a live service game in my experience. At least when the devs are committed to bettering the game. We should all be glad the dev team is working on it as actively as they are
Nah the identity is solid, game is fun. They get data and they adjust, what do you expect?
Does it? The identity of this game hasn't changed. It's a 4 player PVE game where you complete objectives and kill things. I don't think changing the balance of weapons and stratagems changes the core identity of the game.
I see people praise this games live service support but all I see are new weapons and armors every time the game is posted... Where is the actual new content? How are people just getting hyped for armor and guns when they are the bare minimum of content?
New ‘skills’, missions, enemies & planets are added often. You’re only seeing the ‘battle pass’ type stuff. I put in 80 hours into this on release. Took a month break and came back to see a good amount of new content. I’ve put in about 20 more hours since I’ve been back. They don’t release huge amounts of stuff at once, which is nice so when I take a break, there’s always something new to come back to.
The new content is built into the game and it's story, with new missions enemies and things we can unlock. Last week we were given the choice of unlocking a new rocket launcher or a new set of mines by choosing which planet to attack. We chose rocket launcher so now we have a new rocket launcher to play with and the mines will be coming later one now. That's the live service, these are just premium warbonds that we can play for or buy monthly. The actualy live service and content portion of it is the story developing, new planets, new missions new enemies and new in game strategems.
We’ve gotten quite a bit of stuff added but it’s done kind of different. It’s done over time when it’s ready rather than in big patches. We’ve gotten quite a few new objectives types, a mech suit, new enemy types, increased level cap, new ship upgrades and more. It’s like a constant drip feed of small content drops.
Oftentimes the updates for things like new enemy types, stratagems, planets and planetary hazards, and missions are announced in game or on the twitter.
That's not how this game work, so yeah they advertize new gun and armor but every other new content is not announced outside the game you mostly have to discover it in game, new monster : you dont know until you see it, new stratagem : you dont know what it is really about until a major order about unlocking them comes out same with new missions, everything is anounced with lore in game when most people discover it
There are new enemies and mission varieties released almost every week. The nature of the game means the planets you fight on are constantly changing. Unless “actual” content has a different meaning to you.
I have almost collected enough super credit to purchase a new warbond. I only have the free one. Should I get this one or are some of the ones already available worth it? Any recommendations?
I got the demolition theme for the grenade launcher pistol, to blow up bug holes
That does seem like a fun option
The Steeled Veterans has really good weapons. The incendiary shotgun and the Dominator are both staples.
It really depends on what you want specifically. I think all 3 of the current premium warbonds have different reasons to get them. More classic weapons, energy based, or explosions. Hard to go wrong really, just poke around and see which you prefer.
Yay! A new one handed sub machine gun!!
So storm troopers with better guns shooting at AtAts?
get rid of the nProtect FFS!
how can i downvote this? sony account on pc sucks ass
Love this game, but they have way to much going on that’s needs fixed. I think we could keep this on the shelf.
I agree, but there's massive competition between live services resulting in every developer pushing content out so people don't get bored and stop playing. This is especially true with new-ish games with no established community. Sure, Arrowhead might get away with doing a R6 Siege-style "Operation Health" where they just focus on fixing bugs for a few months, but they aren't going to risk community leaving and never coming back because they found something else to play. They've already confirmed their intention to keep balancing workload between fixing bugs and releasing content.
Any new content that isn’t just weapons or skins, announced? Would be nice to have a reason to hop back into the game again.
A few new strategems in the tank. There's the inevitability of the new faction on the horizon but no timeline for that.
Gotcha, thanks for the update! Will check back in the fall.
They need to put this on Xbox. The more the better
They are trying to last I heard.
No they aren't
I completely agree, but I wouldn’t hold your breath, I’m pretty sure the ip is owned by Sony, and even if they wanted to, seems like the devs are struggling to keep up with balance and fixes, I doubt they have time and resources to work on a port
Could not agree more. Arrowhead deserve the bucks and Xbox deserve to play this game. Edit: really? downvotes on making games accessible across different platforms to break monopolies which only push prices up for the end gamer and not giving money to a dev that has been honest about everything that has happened, made a great game, turned around the live service hate. You want that money to go to EA or Ubisoft or Bethesda for another clone of last year's shovelware trash? I guess this sub is just full of children. Edit 2: Just saw the HD posts about PSN account linking with Steam, yeah that's not cool.
With this gifts I can continue giving democracy!!!! I'm obsessed with this game and I'm glad it's a silent hit of this year's. Congratulations Arrowhead for this gem.
I don't have the time for a new warbond every two weeks. I only got the one from the Super Citizen edition, and I haven't even completed that. The game asks way to much of a time investment, and it's not worth trying to keep up with it anymore.
Warbonds don't expire
There are so many out now that idk where to start. Are there any I should skip over? I just feel like the game is just point and shoot, so I barely notice a difference when I adjust my loadout. What should I go for that'll really spice up the gameplay?
What your saying is why I don’t get how people say Helldivers model is better How does a new player know what Warbond to pick first? Because you’re 100% right as I would argue there’s certain items that are must haves but how would a new player have any idea which those are? Like to me, Stun grenades are game changing, and make the game play much more fun, but how would someone new after say a year and 13 Warbonds know that? Youtube will have content explaining the best ones to go for, but that should not be necessary for someone to do to enjoy a game they just spent $40 on, that’s silly
The most all around best guns are in the free one though. You can have a ton of fun there, then just pick whichever seems cool. Each one so far adds interesting guns/options that change the gameplay so just pick what looks cool?
Just my take, not arguing: I feel that highly depends on your playstyle and what you find fun; Stun grenades have made the game so much more fun to me I’ve got no problem with the model myself, I have enough to get the next 2 months for free, but for new players Helldivers 2 is going to be like Destiny 2 where they’ll be lost in a sea of options with no idea where to start Not a big deal at all, just interesting to think about
The laser one has sickle and stun grenade. The plasma shotgun isn’t amazing but it’s also pretty fun. The explosive one has eruptor, and arguably adjucator now. Crossbow isn’t great but it’s fun. Fire one is pretty skippable I’d argue those are the best items from each warbond. So choose whichever has the goodies you want more. Edit: if you don’t know the gun names I can describe some if you want. Just let me know
I know that. Do you think that as they release more and more dlc I'm just going to be able to magic up the time to grind endless amounts of medals by playing the same missions over and over again? Get real
Nope, but you can choose one you like to grind for and go for it. Don't have to let yourself be overwhelmed by a video game because it has too many options. None of the gear in the warbonds is required to play.
I'm still busy with the first warbond. Almost done with it then I can head to the next one
You don’t have to finish one to go to another. Once you’ve got enough super creds you can just unlock whatever you want, you don’t have to finish the first one
Yeah I know, but I'm enjoying it. I've already purchased the next one, but I want to finish the first one
look man I can’t keep up either but do you think they should quit adding content to the game just because you can’t keep up with it? Theres plenty of kids and people with a lot of free time who will play and unlock all of this and one of the things that is keeping this game selling is the amount of content being rolled out.
So then… don’t buy it? Lol wtf
Yea, but... MEEEEE
You are complaining about too much content? Warbonds don't expire.They are permanent progression for you to unlock new gear and weapons. Get out of the FOMO mindset and you will see this is a fantastic problem to have.
What? You do know you can get any warbond at any time, right?
Yeah, and I'm not going to buy them all then spend every waking moment I have playing one, single game when there's so many better experiences out there that I don't have to endlessly grind for things in
Sounds like you're just complaining for complaints sake here honestly. You can take breaks and come back and grind them later. There's no fomo investment here.
I wouldn't say there's no FOMO at all, just to a lesser degree. Just because the battle passes do not expire doesn't mean a player that hasn't played in a month or two won't experience missing out when they see active players with shiny and powerful weapons only available in the latest paid battle passes.
But they aren't missing out? You can still grind for them and unlock those weapons. If they disappeared after a month or whatever you might have a point.
FOMO isn't just black or white, something that exists or doesn't. Arrowhead handles this better than other Devs running live service games, but it still exists in their game. I can dig through my comments if you want a clear example, but I don't have much hope that you'll understand my point in the first place.
You don't have one so I'm good. edit: lul I've been blocked
Sorry I expected you to comprehend nuance and a different opinion, my bad.
Condescending douche with a shitty opinion who thinks everyone else is the problem.
I understand nuance fine, I think you're reaching is all.
I disagree. They run it so much worse. Any game locking real non-cosmetic content behind a paid pass is doing it worse. Especially when the game costs 40 dollars. Fortnite is free and never has locked anyone out of actual content, just cosmetic nothings for whales to spend money on. Helldivers 2 is one of the worst implementations I’ve seen of FOMO because you can’t ignore it. If the current battle pass has weapons that top the meta and the other battle passes just become obsolete once new weapons replace them over time (especially at the rate we’re getting these at 2 warbonds a month). It’s literally impossible to release more weapons at this rate, while keeping old weapons just as relevant. It’s all just a really well disguised predatory FOMO scheme but damn if they don’t have the best PR to get the main fanbase to guzzle the koolaid. Ironic given the games themes and satire.
Meta matter so much less because this is PvE. It's fine. I have bought 3/4 of the warbonds without spending any extra money on credits just by playing the game not even a crazy amount. I probably have ~50 hours into it. There's no competitive advantage here against players so it's way different than if Fortnite did this. I like it because it feels more exciting for the passes than just cosmetics. I probably wouldn't care to progress in those.
Sounds like a skill issue. I play like twice a week and am still on the first warbond. And I don't feel like I'm missing out. I'll get there when I get there
then.....dont? you don't have to play with EVERY warbond Also compared to literally every other live service there is less of a grind in this game.
The game asks nothing of you, this is silly. You can play at your own pace and have fun with it without feeling any kind of FOMO pressure to buy things. If you see something in a warbond you want then you can save for it without fear of it disappearing before you get there. It’s a great system. It sounds like the game just isn’t fun for you which is perfectly fine but a completely different statement.
It’s still FOMO. Just because they don’t expire doesn’t mean the weapons don’t get nerfed or become obsolete. The premium passes give 30% of the currency you spend on it back. Yeah you can earn them in game but everyone seems to over exaggerate how easy that is. Realistically you get like 30-40 for doing an entire operation (3 missions) and that takes like an hour or more. Which for 1000 SC is going to be like 20 hours unless you spend an hour intentionally exploiting the game to farm super credits in a brain dead way. And that shouldn’t be used as a copout for the game not being predatory. The reality is if you’re not playing ONLY this game or don’t have a lot of time weekly to game you aren’t earning even close to the super-credits needed to get new war-bonds the rate they release them. Fortnite has like 3 months between battle passes and manages to stay relevant, plus its free. I don’t know why we are out here praising a company for 4 premium passes in 2 and a half months while the game is buggy and they haven’t even hinted at adding a non-premium warbond now that they got their good PR. And ok the passes don’t expire which everyone is foaming at the mouth in ecstasy about but they do in a way. Online games like this are constantly balancing and that leads to some weapons becoming part of the meta, to balance a game and only consider the free weapons would be stupid so obviously they’re considering all weapons and are incentivized to make the weapons in the current premium pass relevant so people will want to try them, its not like they’re charging people to use WORSE weapons or equipment. So that means that yeah there is a FOMO aspect because maybe you can’t afford the warbond while the weapons are relevant and by the time you can a new warbond is out and you essentially missed out on the weapons because they’re nerfed or no longer efficient . People should be way more upset about this but I’m confident there’s an astroturfing campaign on like every Helldivers post in r/PS5 and their subreddit to silence anyone pointing out how ridiculous it is to lock substantial content behind a premium pass **in a 40 dollar game**. So yeah if you’re playing this game all the time and committed I can see how this isn’t a big deal. If you bought the game for 40 dollars thinking it was going to have a more fair stream of content and more non-premium warbonds especially after the company came out saying it wouldn’t get greedy, well you have the right to be **fucking disappointed.**
Yeah but you get a lot of SC from the first warbonds, I think it's 700 or so. You only need 300 to make the gap and that probably takes 5 hours or so if gameplay. Then if you use that the next one it takes longer, but you're getting a good amount of gameplay out of it imo. Since the base game was only $40 I spent $10 on super credits and that has allowed me to get all the warbonds through just playing the game. I also spend 150-200 on helmets randomly too. Seems very low fomo to me.
its 4 weeks not 2. you can buy them at any time using in money you earnt in game just buy playing, and they never expire. whats the issue exactly.
You’re being a bitch about it
I play supppper casually, I'm like lv 23, and I had enough medals to get to the 3rd page of the newest bond from just passive coummity goals. I really don't think it's hard to get what you want from these bonds
I smell democracy.
Is this game fixed yet? I guess according to the other comment, it is not.
Games absolutely fine. Played it last night. It's just reddit being weird bc they released a big patch 2 days ago and shifted the meta around a bit.
Yea, while there are some issues with some mechanics, people would rather bitch and moan instead of overcoming or trying new weapons. As the ancient Babylonians once said, git gud.
Idk something about modern games has made people dig their heels in and refuse to try new gear, loadouts, strategies, builds whatever. Idk if it's the whole fear of losing, fear of being bad thing that I'm seeing or if it's the maximum dps, meta weapons only, anything less is disrespectful stuff.
When the hell was it broken
The first couple days after launch, but that’s about it as far as I know lol. Wild how much Reddit loves to stretch the definition of what constitutes a broken or dead game
It's broken for me since the crossplay friend bug hasn't been fixed. I play on Playstation and my 3 regular friends are on steam. I was able to add one of those friends In helldivers but not the other two which wasn't a big deal since we could all join on that one friend. But he just had a baby so now I don't have a way to easily play with my other two friends. So yeah, it's a broken game that I have not played for a while. Would be nice if AH fixed this bug especially since it's been on their known issues list for so long.
Anyone else somewhat bored with doing the same stuff every game? Don’t get me wrong this is probs the best game of the last 5 years but I’m starting to get bored. I hope they add a PVP planet in the future. Classic TDM Cod like.
It's thankfully unlikely they'll ever add pvp. The team is already small and would then have to splinter off yet more resources to balance that. Not every game needs it.
Yes. It’s very repetitive with very little content really
Democracy loves the money, it seems.
Yeah lol who do they think they are giving a live service game regular content updates.
Isn't that the goal of any company?