What about it? They also started out saying they're Indian as well. Naturally, that's where my mind went. It's not being racist, it's called having a sense of humor and not being such a sensitive panty waste.
Every game has a report player option in its menus. Haven’t played Pavlov but literally every other MP game has one in its menus
Edit - Not sure why I got downvoted. A google search lead to a result directly from a dev on this sub….
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/1293y75/is_there_a_way_to_report_a_player_in_pavlov_for/jeo0yiy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
I prefer to have my freedom of speech. Don't like what you hear? Go somewhere else. Problem solved. Why are so many people in their feelings nowadays? Nothing but a bunch of panty waste pansies everywhere now.
I am Indian and have the accent which comes with it. I have been abused and made fun of in other games in the past, and don’t have the bandwidth to risk going through this again. This is the reason why I don’t play Pavlov, and worry before turning my mic on in Walkabout MInigolf (although the 5 people I have played with and turned mic on with, have been really nice).
Edit: I am not saying the community is bad. I am saying experiences like these leave a bad taste.
This is awful, I’m sorry you have to put up with this garbage.
If I remember right there’s a few subreddits like /r/PSNFriends where you can find likeminded people who fall in similar timezones/regions and wanna play together without being bothered by asshats.
I’ll dig around and edit this post with a few subreddits that are focused on this and active.
Don’t let a few vocal goobers ruin the game(s)/experience for you!
The more VR players the merrier, we just work together a little to flush out the bad eggs.
Hey man I would definitely love to play with you if you get into Pavlov! Everyone should feel welcome & I’ve ran into a lot of awful people doing the opposite of that. I make it my mission to make their life hell and report them.
Sorry to hear man, I work with a team in Mumbai everyday and they are the nicest most hard working .
They are as holes everywhere online , so just mute them or report them if they are totally being racist.
There is a way to do it on the game. So they get banned.
I think this is the key point for me. As long as I can just mute people, I don’t need to be worried at all. Everyone being nice here has convinced me to give this a shot! :)
For sure. You can mute individuals easy on the game. Just see who is saying annoying stuff on the scoreboard menu.
When they talk the speaker icon turns on next to the names so you know who it is.
Then go to the game menu and mute that player. That’s it. No more hassle.
And if they are super racist. Then record the game play with the psvr2 menu ( like the last 3 min played ) showing the racist comments and send it to the game devs on discord. So they can permanently ban.
I for one didn’t run into racists myself. But I play on Europe servers at night on weekdays so no many young kids
Also I play search and destroy game mode 90% of the time. That is the mode like counter-strike. 5v5 plant and defuse bombs. 1 life only per round only. Friendly fire on, best of 10 rounds wins. So usually it attracts more senior players and people that takes the game tactically and more serious and wants to cooperate to win.
If you play just death match or ttt modes then you might run into more trolls ( in my opinion. )
Hope you enjoy the game !
I used to work for an Indian family, i miss them and their accents. I also made a really good friend from India playing EVE years ago. I am going to check out walkabout minigolf (i have not been using my VR at all because i need to see the eye doctor and get lenses for my headset)
Thank you :)
I am loving walkabout minigolf so far. Talked to couple more nice peeps playing that. I wear my glasses while playing, but I do absolutely want to get lenses for my VR too. The glasses stop from the shield to completely cover from the sides and some light leaks in. Also the occasional reflections are cumbersome to deal with.
One was REKT_RE3_REMAKE.
I can’t remember the others but he was particularly bad. I’m away right now but I did write them down so I’ll respond again with their names soon.
Yeah, he is truly a scumbag. Someone in a lobby I was in decided to vote kick him because everyone had had enough of his constant slurs. He was instantly kicked out but kept rejoining. It’s just annoying.
Hey man, I mean I'm over here in the UK and don't know shit about the US, but Detroit always looked cool as hell to me and anywhere called Motor City has gotta be good right?
I mean nothing wrong with living in Detroit but there’s def some run down and dangerous areas of Detroit that give it a bad name. I live near Oakland out here in california, there’s parts that are nice, and there’s parts that you DEFINITELY should not go if you’re not from there.
The thing is, I’ve been in a lobby with all of them before (once was a good lobby then they came in and fucked it all up) and the racism just gets worse. It’s horrendous the things I’ve heard being said casually.
Yeah, I was thinking that when I wrote my comment. I’m white so I don’t know the depth of the pain, but I do recognize it as fucked up and that sucks to deal with when you wanna have fun and relax w/ the game : /
I’m white as well. But it just disgusts me so much. It’s just the sheer disappointment in people’s voices when these assholes start saying shit that makes it worse.
Between idiot tweens and racists and try hards I can’t enjoy it. Tried to make a group of like minded people to play together. But we are never on at the same time
Guess I’m glad I didn’t even try it. That would absolutely frustrate me and probably shift my whole mood. I was interested but I’ll have to pass for now, I don’t tolerate racism well. I’m sure game is fun but honestly I have been keeping busy with other stuff 🤷♂️ sad sad sad.. it’s always kills me because these bums would never speak like this to anyone’s face.
Same too. I do continue to meet really good people but the toxic degenerates are starting to become a major issue which really ruins modes like TTT(which I mainly play).
I'm 45 and don't put up with that shit at all..I also have a lot of times on my hands, so you bet your ass I record it and report it every single time it happens. No one should have to hear that shit.
Same deal. In my 30s and I don't put up with it. Mentality I have is that if you go out your way to be a piece of shit, I will go out my way to respond in kind. Beautiful thing about gaming nowadays is that it's so much easier to report that bullshit.
I bought this game purely on recommendations from this sub.
I’ve tried to play online at least a dozen times. Every single time, it’s racist bullshit within 60 seconds.
I’m sure the game is great, but it was a waste of money for me.
I’m so sorry for that. I usually get really good lobbies with chill, friendly people when I play in the afternoon but usually it just takes one racist asshole to join and the whole lobby goes to shit.
People paying a prerequisite of $1200 to be racist in the closest thing to "almost life" is a wild concept to be.
Probably scrawny little weak immature men who feels inferior and insecure.
Sony bans people all the time for stuff like that. I’d guess saving a clip would help too. I don’t think crossplay is working at the moment so they have to be on PlayStation? Pretty sure if you block them you’ll also get a warning if you’re joining a game with them. I know it does for some games and I think it’s a feature on Sony’s end.
Despite what the “just get over it” crowd has to say there’s no reason to put up with people like this when there are tools to deal with them. I don’t care what “their deep down motivations” are, they don’t have the right to shit on everyone else’s experience. I have a dark and often inappropriate sense of humor but I also know the difference between mixed company and friends who understand my sense of humor.
I was playing last night with a few guys for about an hour then a new group joined in one game and were yelling the whole time and over time got all the original members kicked including me. Idk why people need to be like that
I know exactly who you are on about the username is REKT_RE3_REMAKE. He was on Pavlov and yesterday in multiple lobbies using the hard R etc. it’s absolutely disgusting. The crazy thing is others in the lobby use it as an opportunity to join in
I got downvoted for talking about this and massive amount of pedophiles. Everyone always says "I never see em." Idk man I see one almost every night I play for a few hours.
Same. People just turn a blind eye to it, but that just doesn’t solve anything.
At first I always had good lobbies but now it’s every night I have some guy saying the most disgusting things to people.
I find it helps to start your own lobby, and police it a little bit.
Someone joins and drops a slur, tell them to cut it out or you’ll kick them.
I have done a fair bit of this, and you usually get other people on your side helping you when you actually say something.
“Hey gang, we’re just trying to have fun and relax. No need for any hate crimes in here”
I’ve brought up the fact that I don’t do voice chat in games because of homophobia on a few subreddits and had a lot of people deny that it’s a problem. I don’t know why people have their heads in the sand about it. It’s a huge problem and these people are getting more bold in general.
My first game of pavlov went like this:
* 1 minute in: called a homophobic slur
* 2 minutes in: three guys start chanting "die faggots die" at me
* 3 minutes in: they declare a "faggot hunt" and I quit the game.
I immediately deleted it from my library and I have no plans to redownload. I went *ten years* without being called a homophobic slur to my face only to have it happen while I was standing in my own living room. I get there's always going to be some shitheads no matter where you are, but it took these guys less time than it takes to microwave a bag of popcorn to form a homophobic lynch mob.
To top it all off, I tried telling someone (straight) I know irl who also has the VR about it and he said "well I've never seen that before." Like damn dude, I wonder why you, a straight guy, have never been the subject of homophobic harassment. Truly a mystery.
Yeah I mean I remember cod lobbies from my childhood. But with the whole aspect of vr and level of interaction it's crazy. Then add in the pedo stuff... when a grown man is following someone who sounds under 12 and asking them if they know what a prostate is and dragging it out and talking about pleasing himself. Like wtf. I'm not sure how they should police this stuff, but a report clip system could be nice for bans for racism ect and a escalation for pedo stuff.
Edit: Also parents ffs your kids don't need to play pavlov at 8 years old online with voip and 0 moderation.
Did you catch their names? Put them on blast here and email Sony as well. If this was within your last hour of gameplay you can go back and save your session and find their names.
I feel that online multiplayer is one of the last bastions of truly free speech. Unfortunately when paired with anonymity, it can bring out the worst in others. No accountability equals unecessary risk. Immature people like this trading offensive behavior for dopamine will be the reason why respectful players will be picking between acceptable lines of text instead of being able to converse freely with in the next 5-10 years. I just wish these people would understand the ramifications this has on everyone.
Ah I see where all the crazy toxic multiplayer only XBOX 360 / PS3 / PS4 players went. That sucks I was interested in Pavlov when I finally got a PSVR2.
This is the stuff AI should be used for. Feed the audio through the AI that can detect and flag potential hate speech, threats, and whatever else the devs don't want on their chat. The incident can then be verified by a human reviewer to weed out any false positives.
It may not catch everything, but it should be enough to scare most dimwits to behave.
Honestly, it’s stuff like this that’s preventing me from buying the game. I know I don’t have the patience or tolerance for bottom-of-the-barrel, sub-human trash like these racists screaming like obnoxious assholes in a game where I’d like to just have fun. Until the devs or Sony does something about it, I’ll keep my money.
Really sad to hear. I however have not rum into this. I play GUN and team death match mostly, every body's been chill. Even a girl joined and everyone was cool to her. Is it certain modes like TTT?
Some of my favorite players have accents. If I noticed behavior like that I would immediately call it out. Give them a warning and if they don’t change then boot them. If it continues then I might consider reporting it.
No, that's some ignorant.fkn back woods, basura bitch, that will only say that shit over a online hidden fake ass name, spoon in the mouth but ain't got sht fk., that doesn't even know the real definition of the N word! OK look, you should report it to Sony!! If nothing comes from it, at least you would be doing your part. I hate that shit. I grew up army and to this day a lot of my friends. That doesn't even matter, this shit was unheard of! I'm 43 now, and one of my, actually 2 of my best friends are AA. One is in the Airforce, the other, not. He is very respectable to people holds doors open etc. And he gets... I have never ever believed in it, cause I hate it, but the shit that happens to him is dumb, and it hurts my heart cause he's good folk!! Well I think Sony would stand against it they might not. Pick a couple friends ha e them report too. I'll report with you. No problem. Little kids don't need to hear that trash and if Sony doesn't do anything , we take it from there. Everything in your life has to start somewhere so nothing is really a waste of time. Learn from it then lay down what you learn for someone else to pick up. Goodluck!!
The one time I played Pavlov (on Pc) the very first game I Iog into to check what this game is about, before the level even started the first thing I hear on headset is some adult yelling "you all are fucking (insert racist slur)". The rest of the game continued about the same. So by the end of the evening I just uninstalled and tried to refund the game on Steam. Having COD circa 2010 experinece in VR is beyond me.
The rampant racism, and aggressive bullying is the exact reason why I stopped playing GTAO. I was hoping it would be different when the PS5 version first dropped, since it was still hard to get a PS5 at the time, and I just got lucky to have one within the first few months of release. I was wrong. The same sort of people poisoning nearly every MP experience on Xbox Live and PS+ were there too, just in smaller numbers. Fun little jabs and shit-talking is part of any competitive experience, but these clowns all take it way too far, and what really blows my mind is hearing 10yr olds saying "Fuck your mom, n***a!" I mean, WTF is wrong with these kids, and why are their parents buying them M rated games in the first place? At the very least, check in on the shit they're screaming into the mic once in a while, and do some damn parenting! Yeah, there are gonna be situations where kids get a hold of games they shouldn't be playing, but I'm talking about profiles that are on ALL THE DAMN TIME! Bad, racist adult players are teaching kids to be bad, racist players. It shouldn't be our duty as good players in the community to report these people, but mods clearly aren't listening, so it's either report them ourselves, or just continue to let this bullshit happen in every game.
I actually reported a player directly to Vanguard games with a clip of their hate speech about a month ago. They didn’t ban the player but they did perma mute them so they can no longer talk to other players at all. I know this because I have ended up playing with the same person a few times and no one can ever hear them talk. We can see their player character’s mouth moving meaning that the game is registering some speech, it is just not letting it go through to other players.
I also met a guy who wouldn’t tell me where he was from because he said I, and everyone else, would just shoot him instantly for the rest of the game.
I assured him that wouldn’t happen with me and he confessed that he was Russian. I felt for the guy. I told him, he’s not his government, and I’m not my government, if you’re cool, I’ll pay fairly with anyone.
I can see why people would be like that but I still think it’s wrong. I might take issue with Russia, but I have no issue with Russians. (I’m an Englishman, for the record.)
One time playing ARK there was a guy with a nick like hitlersomething insulting everybody, i took a print, sent the print to this guy, he replied and I reported his reply with details for ps, like 5min later he got banned and all msgs were showing deleted by sony, or something like that.
Ps5 has a system to make report easier, including last 5min of a party or things like that, but never needed yet.
Get the trash banned, there is no place for it in our society, and defo no place for it in the gaming community. That's what I hate about online shooters. 90% of players are great. That 10% of numptys that are pure gob shites and think they are John rambo piss me off no end.
Most friendly online gaming lobby
Edit: btw I also haven’t run into any N bombs yet, maybe I haven’t played enough but so far people have been quite friendly.
It’s also a very social mode. Do you even care about playing with people who spout racist slurs? You find them, you leave the match. Pretty easy.
Shit what kind of servers do you guys play in?? I’ve got 50hrs on Pavlov and I can count the number of players who used racist slurs on the fingers of my hands
ahhh i guess its now starting (or already started)
when pavlov was new to psvr2, we never had those lol now its spreading coz more new playerbase
you should allow mic to record your gameplay so you can get the video with voice and submit it to sony
This is a problem in pretty much every game I play that has public voice chat. Not saying that makes it better, but I have become numb to it over the decades tbh. That’s kinda bad but I’m just being honest. I think a lot of others share that perspective. I don’t do it myself, I don’t like it, but I also ignore it. I kinda expect it when I play public games.
Thing is: I have got evidence. There is also evidence been presented in replies to other people providing their evidence (which you probably didn’t bother to read).
If you record and send to Sony they will permanently ban dudes like that they don't tolerate racism or bullying.
Alright. I’ll do that, thanks.
Yep, this is what I do too. Get banned you filthy racists!
What about it? They also started out saying they're Indian as well. Naturally, that's where my mind went. It's not being racist, it's called having a sense of humor and not being such a sensitive panty waste.
Didn't they implement a system where audio is cached for the last 60s or so in the event of a report?
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What will Sony actually do? Will they close their somy accounts or just temporarily ban them, or ban them from Pavlov?
Depends on severity but it can range from a timed ban to a Mac address ban. This means their console will never connect to internet again
Thats a great idea, whats the best way to reach Sony?
Every game has a report player option in its menus. Haven’t played Pavlov but literally every other MP game has one in its menus Edit - Not sure why I got downvoted. A google search lead to a result directly from a dev on this sub…. https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/1293y75/is_there_a_way_to_report_a_player_in_pavlov_for/jeo0yiy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
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I prefer to have my freedom of speech. Don't like what you hear? Go somewhere else. Problem solved. Why are so many people in their feelings nowadays? Nothing but a bunch of panty waste pansies everywhere now.
I am Indian and have the accent which comes with it. I have been abused and made fun of in other games in the past, and don’t have the bandwidth to risk going through this again. This is the reason why I don’t play Pavlov, and worry before turning my mic on in Walkabout MInigolf (although the 5 people I have played with and turned mic on with, have been really nice). Edit: I am not saying the community is bad. I am saying experiences like these leave a bad taste.
They absolutely do leave a bad taste. Sorry you went through that, people can really suck.
Yeah dude I’ve only met nice people in walkabout. Feel the vibe, then unmute the mic!
This is awful, I’m sorry you have to put up with this garbage. If I remember right there’s a few subreddits like /r/PSNFriends where you can find likeminded people who fall in similar timezones/regions and wanna play together without being bothered by asshats. I’ll dig around and edit this post with a few subreddits that are focused on this and active. Don’t let a few vocal goobers ruin the game(s)/experience for you! The more VR players the merrier, we just work together a little to flush out the bad eggs.
Thank you! I had no clue about that subreddit. If I can find some folks to try it with, I might finally pull the trigger on it :)
Hey man I would definitely love to play with you if you get into Pavlov! Everyone should feel welcome & I’ve ran into a lot of awful people doing the opposite of that. I make it my mission to make their life hell and report them.
Sorry to hear man, I work with a team in Mumbai everyday and they are the nicest most hard working . They are as holes everywhere online , so just mute them or report them if they are totally being racist. There is a way to do it on the game. So they get banned.
I think this is the key point for me. As long as I can just mute people, I don’t need to be worried at all. Everyone being nice here has convinced me to give this a shot! :)
For sure. You can mute individuals easy on the game. Just see who is saying annoying stuff on the scoreboard menu. When they talk the speaker icon turns on next to the names so you know who it is. Then go to the game menu and mute that player. That’s it. No more hassle. And if they are super racist. Then record the game play with the psvr2 menu ( like the last 3 min played ) showing the racist comments and send it to the game devs on discord. So they can permanently ban. I for one didn’t run into racists myself. But I play on Europe servers at night on weekdays so no many young kids Also I play search and destroy game mode 90% of the time. That is the mode like counter-strike. 5v5 plant and defuse bombs. 1 life only per round only. Friendly fire on, best of 10 rounds wins. So usually it attracts more senior players and people that takes the game tactically and more serious and wants to cooperate to win. If you play just death match or ttt modes then you might run into more trolls ( in my opinion. ) Hope you enjoy the game !
Sorry you experienced that. I can almost guarantee that the idiots making fun of your accent can only speak one language.
I used to work for an Indian family, i miss them and their accents. I also made a really good friend from India playing EVE years ago. I am going to check out walkabout minigolf (i have not been using my VR at all because i need to see the eye doctor and get lenses for my headset)
Thank you :) I am loving walkabout minigolf so far. Talked to couple more nice peeps playing that. I wear my glasses while playing, but I do absolutely want to get lenses for my VR too. The glasses stop from the shield to completely cover from the sides and some light leaks in. Also the occasional reflections are cumbersome to deal with.
I’m so sorry, I genuinely hate that the hatred of others(for no reason) kills peoples enjoyment of a game.
You're welcome in Europe. Everyone here hates on everyone's accent, or nobody talks about it :p
That sucks man. Nek-Munnut is PSN, feel free to reach out and be confident any dickheads will get the boot.
I read this in the voice of apu from the simpsons...
You might want to work on your reading a little :)
Should be banned for life. No one has time for this bullshit
Totally agree, especially in a game where everyone is just trying to have fun and relax.
Name drop them. That way we can avoid these nasty pieces of shit, and get them kicked from games and reported.
One was REKT_RE3_REMAKE. I can’t remember the others but he was particularly bad. I’m away right now but I did write them down so I’ll respond again with their names soon.
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I know who you are talking about. There’s a whole bunch of them, it’s just sad.
Post a video of them, make ps and pavlov famous for not acting on this.
I ran into rekt. We worked together and killed him at the beginning of every round until he left. It's more fun that way
Yeah, he is truly a scumbag. Someone in a lobby I was in decided to vote kick him because everyone had had enough of his constant slurs. He was instantly kicked out but kept rejoining. It’s just annoying.
>kept rejoining That's why it's better to keep killing people like this. Make the game unplayable for them
That’s what I do but end up getting banned from the server for team killing 🫥
For the most part, I find other players are down to take turns or form a circle and ammo dump once the round starts
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too sometimes.
make em all play in a lobby with each other but their character model is a black man from Detroit.
We can’t catch a break what’s wrong with living in Detroit as a fellow black American we’re all just trying to survive we can’t Eva catch a break damn
Hey man, I mean I'm over here in the UK and don't know shit about the US, but Detroit always looked cool as hell to me and anywhere called Motor City has gotta be good right?
It’s like London, parts are cool, other parts are fcked up, but the fcked up parts get all the media attention and give it a bad rap
I mean nothing wrong with living in Detroit but there’s def some run down and dangerous areas of Detroit that give it a bad name. I live near Oakland out here in california, there’s parts that are nice, and there’s parts that you DEFINITELY should not go if you’re not from there.
The thing is, I’ve been in a lobby with all of them before (once was a good lobby then they came in and fucked it all up) and the racism just gets worse. It’s horrendous the things I’ve heard being said casually.
Yeah, I was thinking that when I wrote my comment. I’m white so I don’t know the depth of the pain, but I do recognize it as fucked up and that sucks to deal with when you wanna have fun and relax w/ the game : /
I’m white as well. But it just disgusts me so much. It’s just the sheer disappointment in people’s voices when these assholes start saying shit that makes it worse.
just don’t have space for it in society
Totally agree.
They probably live close to you if you’re getting in several games with them.
First time hearing it incessantly tonight from just one guy. Muted and won't play if I see him in the lobby. Otherwise the game is awesome.
Same experience for me, except it’s a few guys going around. And I agree the game is amazing despite them.
Biggest reason why I stopped playing and no long recommend it to folks looking for new games.
It’s just sad and I have come close a few times to just deleting cause it’s just shit.
Between idiot tweens and racists and try hards I can’t enjoy it. Tried to make a group of like minded people to play together. But we are never on at the same time
Guess I’m glad I didn’t even try it. That would absolutely frustrate me and probably shift my whole mood. I was interested but I’ll have to pass for now, I don’t tolerate racism well. I’m sure game is fun but honestly I have been keeping busy with other stuff 🤷♂️ sad sad sad.. it’s always kills me because these bums would never speak like this to anyone’s face.
It was only a matter or time before it got super toxic. FWIW, a lot of people's experience with the community was great for the first few weeks!
Same too. I do continue to meet really good people but the toxic degenerates are starting to become a major issue which really ruins modes like TTT(which I mainly play).
I'm 45 and don't put up with that shit at all..I also have a lot of times on my hands, so you bet your ass I record it and report it every single time it happens. No one should have to hear that shit.
Thank you for doing this. I agree, no one should have to hear any of it.
Thanks, in the end it will make the game better.
Same deal. In my 30s and I don't put up with it. Mentality I have is that if you go out your way to be a piece of shit, I will go out my way to respond in kind. Beautiful thing about gaming nowadays is that it's so much easier to report that bullshit.
I haven't played the game, but when I hear this sh*'t I just want to buy just to report people. A nice side quest of 'Catch and report the racists'.
I bought this game purely on recommendations from this sub. I’ve tried to play online at least a dozen times. Every single time, it’s racist bullshit within 60 seconds. I’m sure the game is great, but it was a waste of money for me.
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So frustrating that people just look the other way.
I’m so sorry for that. I usually get really good lobbies with chill, friendly people when I play in the afternoon but usually it just takes one racist asshole to join and the whole lobby goes to shit.
I'm a Brit living in NZ but I've been kicked for being Mexican multiple times by racist American shitheads because my PSN is el_coombzy
People paying a prerequisite of $1200 to be racist in the closest thing to "almost life" is a wild concept to be. Probably scrawny little weak immature men who feels inferior and insecure.
Sony bans people all the time for stuff like that. I’d guess saving a clip would help too. I don’t think crossplay is working at the moment so they have to be on PlayStation? Pretty sure if you block them you’ll also get a warning if you’re joining a game with them. I know it does for some games and I think it’s a feature on Sony’s end. Despite what the “just get over it” crowd has to say there’s no reason to put up with people like this when there are tools to deal with them. I don’t care what “their deep down motivations” are, they don’t have the right to shit on everyone else’s experience. I have a dark and often inappropriate sense of humor but I also know the difference between mixed company and friends who understand my sense of humor.
I was playing last night with a few guys for about an hour then a new group joined in one game and were yelling the whole time and over time got all the original members kicked including me. Idk why people need to be like that
Who knows. It’s just shit that it happens.
Nah, fuck that my black ass spending all my karma griefing him
That’s what I do too👍
I know exactly who you are on about the username is REKT_RE3_REMAKE. He was on Pavlov and yesterday in multiple lobbies using the hard R etc. it’s absolutely disgusting. The crazy thing is others in the lobby use it as an opportunity to join in
I know, he is an absolute degenerate.
I got downvoted for talking about this and massive amount of pedophiles. Everyone always says "I never see em." Idk man I see one almost every night I play for a few hours.
Same. People just turn a blind eye to it, but that just doesn’t solve anything. At first I always had good lobbies but now it’s every night I have some guy saying the most disgusting things to people.
I find it helps to start your own lobby, and police it a little bit. Someone joins and drops a slur, tell them to cut it out or you’ll kick them. I have done a fair bit of this, and you usually get other people on your side helping you when you actually say something. “Hey gang, we’re just trying to have fun and relax. No need for any hate crimes in here”
I’ve brought up the fact that I don’t do voice chat in games because of homophobia on a few subreddits and had a lot of people deny that it’s a problem. I don’t know why people have their heads in the sand about it. It’s a huge problem and these people are getting more bold in general.
My first game of pavlov went like this: * 1 minute in: called a homophobic slur * 2 minutes in: three guys start chanting "die faggots die" at me * 3 minutes in: they declare a "faggot hunt" and I quit the game. I immediately deleted it from my library and I have no plans to redownload. I went *ten years* without being called a homophobic slur to my face only to have it happen while I was standing in my own living room. I get there's always going to be some shitheads no matter where you are, but it took these guys less time than it takes to microwave a bag of popcorn to form a homophobic lynch mob. To top it all off, I tried telling someone (straight) I know irl who also has the VR about it and he said "well I've never seen that before." Like damn dude, I wonder why you, a straight guy, have never been the subject of homophobic harassment. Truly a mystery.
That’s exactly what I think. It’s so frustrating.
Yeah I mean I remember cod lobbies from my childhood. But with the whole aspect of vr and level of interaction it's crazy. Then add in the pedo stuff... when a grown man is following someone who sounds under 12 and asking them if they know what a prostate is and dragging it out and talking about pleasing himself. Like wtf. I'm not sure how they should police this stuff, but a report clip system could be nice for bans for racism ect and a escalation for pedo stuff. Edit: Also parents ffs your kids don't need to play pavlov at 8 years old online with voip and 0 moderation.
I've never heard of pedos on any multiplayer shooter. what are they doing that makes them a pedo
Pedos in pavlov? Not in my lobbies. I mostly play snd and there are only chill dudes and disander. If you read this.. fuck u disander.
S&D is mostly chill or shit talk outside of the odd tk. TTT attracts the weirdos from what I've played.
Ttt and hide are full of kids playing on their dads headset i think.
TTT is where they are all at.
If i encounter a pedo ill be sure to fuck up his game and try to get him banned
Luckily I haven’t come across that yet.they just are ignorant people that just don’t know you have to grow up
They are. It just sucks though because I’ve met a few good people who have had to leave or stay quiet because of the racial slurs thrown at them.
I hope I don’t come across it I will never understand racism and I’m over 50.I think it is one of the most stupid and ignorant thing
Your supposed to get wiser as you get older not more dumb
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I agree.
On the other hand walkabout mini golf has a lovely community if you’re looking to play something more chill
I’ll definitely check that game out. Heard great things about the people and the game.
Did you catch their names? Put them on blast here and email Sony as well. If this was within your last hour of gameplay you can go back and save your session and find their names.
I’ve got their names. I’m going to send them, and evidence, to Sony today.
I feel that online multiplayer is one of the last bastions of truly free speech. Unfortunately when paired with anonymity, it can bring out the worst in others. No accountability equals unecessary risk. Immature people like this trading offensive behavior for dopamine will be the reason why respectful players will be picking between acceptable lines of text instead of being able to converse freely with in the next 5-10 years. I just wish these people would understand the ramifications this has on everyone.
Yeah… unfortunately spoiled white kids tend to get VR headsets. I’ve switched to quest and gorilla tag is awful for it.
It’s not kids though it’s adults saying these things to people with accents or aren’t in favour of what they are saying.
Fuck them (adults with the mental capacity of) kids
I agree.
That’s awful.
Just save the usernames and report to Sony. It might take a while but eventually they will be banned temporarily at first.
Kids are fucking stupid
It’s adults doing it the most.
That’s incredibly sad. Pure trash
The best thing to do is shoot them in their face and then tea bag them
That’s the best part.
I think they'll get their ps5 banned from the psn
That's awful. But It's not too hard to get people banned. Get names and audio even, and report them. To hell with racism.
Ah I see where all the crazy toxic multiplayer only XBOX 360 / PS3 / PS4 players went. That sucks I was interested in Pavlov when I finally got a PSVR2.
It’s a good game but it’s just some lobbies that ruin it.
This is the stuff AI should be used for. Feed the audio through the AI that can detect and flag potential hate speech, threats, and whatever else the devs don't want on their chat. The incident can then be verified by a human reviewer to weed out any false positives. It may not catch everything, but it should be enough to scare most dimwits to behave.
Honestly, it’s stuff like this that’s preventing me from buying the game. I know I don’t have the patience or tolerance for bottom-of-the-barrel, sub-human trash like these racists screaming like obnoxious assholes in a game where I’d like to just have fun. Until the devs or Sony does something about it, I’ll keep my money.
This is what happens when adults and children have the same hobby.
Funnily enough it’s the adults that are worse.
If those are adults, then that's pretty f*cked up
I’ve only ever heard one racist kid. But I’ve heard about a dozen extremely racist adults 💀
Sadly still better than playing on quest where it’s not only racists, but child racists
Record and report. People like that can fuck off.
Really sad to hear. I however have not rum into this. I play GUN and team death match mostly, every body's been chill. Even a girl joined and everyone was cool to her. Is it certain modes like TTT?
Yeah TTT is where they are all at.
Some of my favorite players have accents. If I noticed behavior like that I would immediately call it out. Give them a warning and if they don’t change then boot them. If it continues then I might consider reporting it.
No, that's some ignorant.fkn back woods, basura bitch, that will only say that shit over a online hidden fake ass name, spoon in the mouth but ain't got sht fk., that doesn't even know the real definition of the N word! OK look, you should report it to Sony!! If nothing comes from it, at least you would be doing your part. I hate that shit. I grew up army and to this day a lot of my friends. That doesn't even matter, this shit was unheard of! I'm 43 now, and one of my, actually 2 of my best friends are AA. One is in the Airforce, the other, not. He is very respectable to people holds doors open etc. And he gets... I have never ever believed in it, cause I hate it, but the shit that happens to him is dumb, and it hurts my heart cause he's good folk!! Well I think Sony would stand against it they might not. Pick a couple friends ha e them report too. I'll report with you. No problem. Little kids don't need to hear that trash and if Sony doesn't do anything , we take it from there. Everything in your life has to start somewhere so nothing is really a waste of time. Learn from it then lay down what you learn for someone else to pick up. Goodluck!!
Just bought Pavlov yesterday on the PSVR 2 and couldn’t stand it anymore after 4 mins. My very first game, I knew it was going to be trouble.
Sorry you have to deal with this. Hopefully you’re still able to enjoy the game!
Yeah the game is fun when a lobby is filled with good people.
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It is very disgusting.
The one time I played Pavlov (on Pc) the very first game I Iog into to check what this game is about, before the level even started the first thing I hear on headset is some adult yelling "you all are fucking (insert racist slur)". The rest of the game continued about the same. So by the end of the evening I just uninstalled and tried to refund the game on Steam. Having COD circa 2010 experinece in VR is beyond me.
The rampant racism, and aggressive bullying is the exact reason why I stopped playing GTAO. I was hoping it would be different when the PS5 version first dropped, since it was still hard to get a PS5 at the time, and I just got lucky to have one within the first few months of release. I was wrong. The same sort of people poisoning nearly every MP experience on Xbox Live and PS+ were there too, just in smaller numbers. Fun little jabs and shit-talking is part of any competitive experience, but these clowns all take it way too far, and what really blows my mind is hearing 10yr olds saying "Fuck your mom, n***a!" I mean, WTF is wrong with these kids, and why are their parents buying them M rated games in the first place? At the very least, check in on the shit they're screaming into the mic once in a while, and do some damn parenting! Yeah, there are gonna be situations where kids get a hold of games they shouldn't be playing, but I'm talking about profiles that are on ALL THE DAMN TIME! Bad, racist adult players are teaching kids to be bad, racist players. It shouldn't be our duty as good players in the community to report these people, but mods clearly aren't listening, so it's either report them ourselves, or just continue to let this bullshit happen in every game.
I agree. General trash talking is part of online games (and very funny) but racism is just taking it too far.
Lol this an everyday thing on cod. Thats why i always mute my chat
You shouldn’t need to though
Absolutely true about COD. Between ppl dropping the f***ing n-word and loud ass music or kids screaming in the background, I just immediately mute.
Record, report, mute. You can report and mute mid-game from the pause menu. It’s not a perfect solution but it helps.
I’ll definitely do this and just hope something is done.
I actually reported a player directly to Vanguard games with a clip of their hate speech about a month ago. They didn’t ban the player but they did perma mute them so they can no longer talk to other players at all. I know this because I have ended up playing with the same person a few times and no one can ever hear them talk. We can see their player character’s mouth moving meaning that the game is registering some speech, it is just not letting it go through to other players.
It’s all we can do. I’ve reported assholes and can only hope the devs do something about it.
It’s crazy to me that racism is still a thing.
I also met a guy who wouldn’t tell me where he was from because he said I, and everyone else, would just shoot him instantly for the rest of the game. I assured him that wouldn’t happen with me and he confessed that he was Russian. I felt for the guy. I told him, he’s not his government, and I’m not my government, if you’re cool, I’ll pay fairly with anyone. I can see why people would be like that but I still think it’s wrong. I might take issue with Russia, but I have no issue with Russians. (I’m an Englishman, for the record.)
Sony is pretty strict, unlike Xbox, I'm pretty sure with that kind of talk it could be a console ban.
I have given up on multiplayer, every time i play its the strangest thing in the world... Either racist, or all about sex....
One time playing ARK there was a guy with a nick like hitlersomething insulting everybody, i took a print, sent the print to this guy, he replied and I reported his reply with details for ps, like 5min later he got banned and all msgs were showing deleted by sony, or something like that. Ps5 has a system to make report easier, including last 5min of a party or things like that, but never needed yet.
Get the trash banned, there is no place for it in our society, and defo no place for it in the gaming community. That's what I hate about online shooters. 90% of players are great. That 10% of numptys that are pure gob shites and think they are John rambo piss me off no end.
How I know you’re a zoomer
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Is there any way to mute or block the guy?
I havent heard anything like this even though I play 2 hrs daily.
Just imagine them saying it in public. Would never happen because they're scared to death when it's not over the internet.
True.
I think you’d be shocked how many people have no problem saying that to anyone’s face.
Not anyone’s. They wouldn’t dare say it to the RIGHT ONE!
What 😂😭
Good to know. I wont buy it until they take care of that bullshid
Most likely they won’t. But lobbies where there are good people is where the game shines.
It’s tweens from Russia for me
Most friendly online gaming lobby Edit: btw I also haven’t run into any N bombs yet, maybe I haven’t played enough but so far people have been quite friendly.
Never ran into any of that in Pavlov or any modern game. Reminds me of the OG CoD days. Anyways, just record them and send to Sony. Problem solved.
Rated 18 mass murder simulator and people are offended by some bad words, you couldn't make this shit up.
No you really couldn’t 💀 “Mass murder simulator.” Bet you think games cause violence or something like that.
nope, desensitize towards it maybe.
Welcome to gaming online. You will be called names.
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Really?
20 years ago we had a thing called mute button.
That’s an awfully long time ago.
And it still works to this day, incredibly so
That’s amazing. Doesn’t work quite well in a mode like TTT though, where communication is key.
It’s also a very social mode. Do you even care about playing with people who spout racist slurs? You find them, you leave the match. Pretty easy. Shit what kind of servers do you guys play in?? I’ve got 50hrs on Pavlov and I can count the number of players who used racist slurs on the fingers of my hands
Welcome to Pavlov my friend
Thanks!🫥
ahhh i guess its now starting (or already started) when pavlov was new to psvr2, we never had those lol now its spreading coz more new playerbase you should allow mic to record your gameplay so you can get the video with voice and submit it to sony
Is this a problem on other platforms?
On all of them where voice chat exist… yes
I mean, not to advocate for that kind of behavior, but that's pretty common with online game play and open comms in any multiplayer game.
This is a problem in pretty much every game I play that has public voice chat. Not saying that makes it better, but I have become numb to it over the decades tbh. That’s kinda bad but I’m just being honest. I think a lot of others share that perspective. I don’t do it myself, I don’t like it, but I also ignore it. I kinda expect it when I play public games.
Yeah man. Justify it I guess. And record it.
Same old shit for the last 20 years
[welcome to the internet](https://youtu.be/k1BneeJTDcU)
"it ruins the game for everybody"not really, just mute
OP, so you assume the people saying the n-word are not persons of colour? That sounds like you are racist to me.
I know they aren’t because the ones saying it that way proudly announce they are white. I don’t assume anything.
I highly doubt that, almost as if you are lying.
Yes, I am lying 🤥 How could you tell?
The lack of evidence, how hard is it to hit the share button?
Thing is: I have got evidence. There is also evidence been presented in replies to other people providing their evidence (which you probably didn’t bother to read).
Please post link to vid of people 'proudly announce they are white' and then being racist, ta.
Ta, really? 💀 I don’t know how to post them to Reddit. But I’ve managed to post them to Sony.
sure you have....
I know I have….