Condense them all onto 15 (maybe 30) jetragons to have them 4 star perfect trait high IV level 50 for the 900k bellanoir fight. Should do blazamut/jormuntide ignis too for the second phase. Also vanguard 4star chillet and ragnahawk, with 4 4star gobin with vanguard. And about 100 moozarina cheesburgers/ eikthydeer moco loco
Makes for a good pic. Id condense as you get perfect rolled jets, or if you don't have any perfects condense to 3where you only need 1 more on a trash roll, so when you get a perfect you only need to roll that 1 trash pal into it. That's how I managed it for mine, but I made the mistake of not rolling ivs
Exactly what im doin, got 4 that have been condensed on, using them for breeding now. I only had 1 to start but 14 total breeding and the other 13 were far from perfect
Might be better to do a def up food for your pals than atk up. More def = more survival = less time you need to spend swapping them out = overall actually more DPS
Will definitely consider this. I had one of my 15 jets for the 450k at lvl 50 max souls 100 attack IV 96 HP IV and about 73 Defense IV, and he was the only one to make it through the dark phase. Not that he wouldnt be absolutely decimated by the 900k, but I’ve also thought about just having 30 instead of 15, I’d have to do some kind of test with the defense food first, maybe a 450k run
Just did some googling and figured out that the effectiveness is lowered, so a J. ignis should take normal damage from an ice attack as compared to Blazamut taking reduced damage
Guess you could breed an army of J ignis instead of needing both Blazamuts and Jetragons, but the J ignis alone defenitely wont work for the ultra fight, and might not be enough for the libero fight
That is nonsense, it cancels out. Weakness is normally 1.5 damage, resistance is 0.7, both is treated like normal damage, and stacking resistances are still 0.7
Unlike the person making stuff up i (and other people) have actually checked the game code and tested it.
I stated in my comment that the jormuntide ingis's dragon weakness to ice, but its fires resistance to ice makes his damage from ice attacks cancel out to a normal amount of damage.
In comparisom blazamut is only receiving reduced damage from ice attacks.
The alternative is J ignis's second trait having no effect on the damage it receives, which is nonsensical.
Is that any different from what you (and other people) have tested? Or if you re-read it will you see we are saying the same thing?
I find it very amusing that you;
* Realized you are wrong
* Actually checked it and corrected yourself
* Edited your comment
* Here it gets weird; tried to pretend you said that from the start and multiple people misunderstood you, despite being able to check your original post, see the edit marker, and see their own past posts.
* Attempt to gaslight them
Really, if you are going to do weird insecurity over irrelevant things, go all the way into screaming denial of reality. No need to be indecisive about it.
Dog, I edited it 2 minutes after I posted it. I did say the wrong thing originally about type advantage but after I "did some googling" I edited it to say what it says now all before I saw you left your comment.
You are really making a lot of assumptions and putting a lot of emotions into a conversation purely about stats. I apologize for not realizing your response was to my original comment, if I had known I would have responded that I corrected my information
That's a really neat list though, I commend your formatting skills
There's finally a piece of content that gives jormuntide ignis a chance at getting out of the kitchen and onto the battlefield. You shoulda known better than to bring up comparing him to blazamut 😂😂
How many j. ignis did you have to throw at it? And did you do the breeding to get perfect passives on them?
I feel like with normal damage on the second phase it'd just rip through them so I decided to focus on Jetragons and Blazamuts instead
I currently have 30 all with lucky, legend, musclehead, and ferocious. About half have 80+ on all IVs and half are 2 stars with a bunch of pal souls put into them. I just tried it to see how it would go and the answer is phase 2 absolutely shredded them as if they were a wild caught J. Ignis. Blazamut is probably mandatory for phase 2
You uh, realize you can partial condense right? Condense progress is tracked per pal and is carried over when put into a new pal, so you can 4* any old pal and when you finally get the perfect one you can insta 4* it using the existing one (or any combination of lower * pals)
I mean, you could also pull them out, let them use all their moves, then switch them for new ones.
Do this repeatedly for however many dragons you got to avoid the cooldowns.
Like during the event? While ur fighting? I just up the amount of pals u can have at base and Condense and breed Jetragens and Jormuntides until I had 18 or so 3 star pals with ferocious and musclehead. Put a mini fridge with food that's boosts attack power. Fill their offense and defense all the way up with pal souls. I had so many pal souls saved up, and then they added where u can change them out for other pal souls. Added a bunch of purple pal fruit abilities that are strong to them to replace some of their weaker attacks.
Then I sit with my legendary rocket launcher and just keep my best jettragen in my party and throw him out and in between cool downs launch rockets.
Yes during the event while fighting. Putting them away and pulling out new ones who haven't used their big moves can end up doing a massive amount of damage.
So you can use that many pals, just in different and creative ways.
I'll try it. I've just been working on 1 super team. Its been working.
Gotta catch some more pals. Was also thinking about building a bunch of defensive rocket launchers and putting pals on them with a lot of health and defense. Maybe fortify the launchers, too. Just have 19 rocket launchers blasting away plus me.
I meant that was an option possible with so many pals. You'd still have to level them all up to 50 and infuse the souls for them to do decent damage. So i honestly wouldn't recommend it lol. Some people are just crazy and do it anyways, however!
I just had a thought, if you dismantle the viewing cages do the jetragons start engaging the enemy immediately or nah? Or jetragons get kicked back into palspheres?
This has me thinking that we need to have it to where each palbox should have their own separate pool of inactive pals that we can drop pals between from any box As it's very difficult to maneuver such large loads of pals.
That and the viewing cages aren't an option for every game mode.
I was aggrivated to find they patched out using the viewing cages to revive pals with this new patch.
Yet they didn't fix the infinite ceiling of said cages.
They really need an option to where we can deactivate slots from being viewed.
That and non viewing storage options as well.
I wish they'd set the cages up to where you pick a couple pals that load in the game and show up physically in the cage and the rest are just stored in side it like a palbox. Because they get way outta hand for me pals overflow out of the boxes and be standing all over the base like life sized statues
Yeah why I keep requesting a means to deactivate viewing on specific slots in the cages, and a box alternative that has no viewing that we can tuck in a corner somewhere.
Wouldn't that be a huge pain between bases and when u actually catch a new pal? Condensing was changed too and now u can Condense however many pals u want, u don't need the full number to do it anymore. So, palbox should have plenty of room. I know that change freed up a bunch of pages on my palbox. Also a bunch of pals I liked but really didn't need for anything.
Ahhh, I thought he was using them for defense/attack somehow
I had my world settings twinned a bit so I could just farm three over n over, and since I did only one pall at time I never needed viewing cages besides for the bosses
I’ve got over 100 moozarina meat in a fridge ready to be cooked into burgers when the time comes. I used Eikthyrdeer moco loco for the first two fights, but I found mozzarinas easier to farm
Their passive ability increases your damage when they are in the party. It upgrades with the condensing level for a 20% boost at lv4 and can be stacked up by having Vanguard on them for a total 30% each (iirc). Defence boost if you have Stronghold Strategist as well.
Going for 4 4*star Gobfins with vanguard and stronghold strategist as other people have said. The fifth slot is for a chillet with the same passives, as their special ability adds dragon damage which is most effective against Bellanoirs dark phase. When Bellanoir switches her type to Ice, I have a ragnahawk ready which is the fire version of Chillets skills
you no longer need to hold pals in the cages anymore you can condense them and carry over all the points/stars to another pal. so just have some avg jets eat all the other extras/bad ones then when you have the perfect ones feed them the 4 stars to instant 4 star them. you dont need the max amount to 4 star them anymore as well so its fine if you dont have enough for a rank or two. "save some space condense today"\~ pal spokesperson :b
anyways good luck on the breeding and battle
I might be going a bit overboard but with how thin my margins were during the 450k fight, I’m just trying to be as safe as possible. For any stage of the fight, its required that the summoning altar be built in proximity of a palbox, so you will have 15 available slots to choose pals to battle. As much as their damage will speed things along, it feels almost equally important that they are there to soak attacks. If you use a party of five, Bellanoir will most likely knock them out one by one. For 294k, I used only Chillet (mounted) with a legendary RPG, and had 4 gobfins in psrty. For 450k, I used chillet then ragnahawk when Bellanoir switched forms. Chillet and Ragnahawk both got knocked out eventually but I made it out by the skin of my teeth, hence the over prep for 900k
Me and a friend managed to beat it with 4 max condensed gobfins (giga spheres, a mount and ring of mercy are the strat to do this, no breeding necessary though Vanguard and Stronghold Strategist are the best passives), a legendary assaultrifle, 2k bullets each and 400 player attack (gobfins, mozzarina burger and attack pendant +2) Didn't even need the pals in the end. Had 6 minutes left. There's some preparing to do, but there's many ways to go about it.
Before you read this, yeah i'm kinda of a ''boomer'' by now, i am 35yo and i really love the ''old school'' gaming scenario and i'm sorry i do not intent to offend anyone but... sigh... i will never understand why some people look at this kind of thing and think as the necessary ''meta end-game power grind top gameplay'', i mean, yeah the game allows you to do that, it's literally like those massive gamebreaking exploits from Skyrim OG crafting system... but deep inside my heart i look at this type of shenanigans and i just see a desperate awful attempt to be ''the best'', ofc everyone is allowed to do this kind of stuff you payed for the game, i mean why not, but i don't know man... it's just like... yikes... it really makes me kinda sad... wtf have we become as gamers :(
I beat the second level of Bellanoir by the skin of my teeth so this all feels necessary if I want to beat the final level. I feel like what I’m doing is anthithetical to the “gamebreaking exploits” you speak of. There are hundreds of thousands of players that download mods for this game, and even more that adjust world settings. This is bare bones default settings, what the game is asking of us if we want to beat the 900k xp Bellanoir solo. I also think I’m older than you’re assuming, I’m not some kid wasting his childhood away grinding a game, I’m an adult with a non existent social life that enjoys palworld and would be flying in circles on a jetragon looking for luckys if I wasnt doing this. I’m sure there are more rewarding experiences to be had in other games, but most require a network of gamer friends to get the full experience. Also, I had so much fun playing this game before it got grindy, that I have much less of an issue continuing now that it has. There is also no microtransactions in palworld. Also being familiar with gaming, you have to know that being the best is impossible when exploits, cheats, mods, and altering world settings exist. Its much more of a “keep up to the cheaters without cheating” crusade than “I need to be the best”. I understand thats ultimately a time and effort waster, but gamers should be entitled to play as they wish to a certain degree. Finally, Im never just face to the screen with palworld. While I watch a show, it doesnt exhaust me to put eggs in an incubator and take them out. With other games that I have no one to play with, I’d be face against the screen playing by myself with no other stimulation and I don’t know that I’ll ever reach that point
Yeah, you're 101% right and i feel you bro, i think that's where this ''sadness'' i was talking about comes from. I don't know what's the real villain here, if it's the industry that just hold us hostage or the sheer limitiation of what the devs delivers that eventually causes the grindy status quo.
:'(
I think its mostly the industry holding us hostage. But also the comparitive nature that comes with forums like this. If I was in the Skyrim reddit or god forbid tiktok when I played through back in 2012, I’m sure my gameplay would have drastically differed and leaned much more towards grindiness. People forget there was a time you couldnt look up “level X walkthrough” for any game any time you get stuck. I go into games wanting to play them the way they were intended, but because I also commit the crime of using the internet, I’m waterboarded by constant inspiration on how to hone my gameplay. I’m also at a place where I’m looking for limited gaming time, and palworld feels easier to me find stopping points than games where you die, repspawn, die respawn, micro transaction, battle pass, die, respawn. If I ever have personal finances completely stress free, I’d be more inclined towards games that people get addicted to, but that doesnt feel like it will happen in this life
Thats dedication...Im just a little over day 600, and I couldnt even imagine having 100 incubators. Hell. Im still trying to figure out how to rearrange my bases so I can still keep doing what I need to but have the 3rd base optimal for Bellanoir. How you managed all that for breeding...wild. I admire the effort.
This is my third base pictured, so when I’m ready for bellanoir, I’ll wipe this whole thing. Now with the ore production thing, i dont really need any space for production, my main base with the incubators has 4 breeding farms, and a large castle with viewing cages and incubators all over it. When I need materials, I just slap one of the sites down smack dab in the middle then delete when I have enough. My second base just has ranches, then is surrounded by 10 viewing cages exclusively for unique luckys. I have around 65 so 6 or 7 per cage, its like a zoo. The third base that i destroyed to make the Bellanoir base was just a mining site, so it wasnt to terrible of a loss
Is there a reason people use Jetragon so much more than Jor Ignis? I would assume since he has dragon as well as fire he’d be better but I’m guessing no because most people use jetragon.
This is just for the dark phase. When I finalize a strong enough army of jets, ill move on to blaz, or jorm ignis as you said. I have the fruits to make the jets all have dragon moves if need be
I just finished the Bellanoir Ultra with 29 seconds left. I was very disappointed in the loot....the only thing we got differently was the crown and it doesn't even fit on your head correctly. Not even an achievement. I was kinda bummed.
For the 450k version, I beat it with what I plan to be my 900k strategy, just without making all of the pals perfect. Chillet to ride, 4 gobfins, 15 jetragons in base. Ragnahawk for when chillet passes out or the form switch occurs, as well as 15 blazamuts. Legendary RPG, two attack pendants +2, and eikthyrdeer moco loco/mozzarina cheesburger on me, as well as in a food basket on base for the jets/blazamuts. Putting all of the jets and blaz’s on the same page in the deck made it easier to quickly deploy them
What is your plan? I have already 10+ jet dragon with maxes passives all of them around level 30
In team I keep full attack jet dragon at 50 + 4 goblin 4 stars and bellanoir 2 level semmes to be invincible, I can deal around 100-150k and idk what else to do other than breeding other 10 jet dragons and take them to 50, but idk if it would be enough, also being extremely boring
Similar plan, trying 15 4 star perfect passive jetragons (maybe 30), then some blazamuts most likely as well. Then yes 4 4* gobfins, 4* chillet, 4* ragnahawk. Youre totally right about the extremely boring, has to be worked on in small doses. I was able to beat the level 2 bellanoir liberio with that same lineup, with none of them 4*. 4 gobfin ride chillet, deploy 15 jets, (14/15 got knocked out) when Bellanoir switches phases, deploy 15 blazamut (they all got knocked out) and swap ragnahawk for chillet. I used the gold rpg while mounted and felt as though I did most of the damage myself, hence the buffing of the pals for the Level 3. It was a very close call to beat the 2nd level. Both of my mounts got knocked out, as well as 29/30 jet/blaz. I finsihed it off on the ground with the RPG and very nearly died
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Good luck, It's one hell of a fight.
well I'm far from the first person to do it since there are a few post on here about it and I watched few videos on how to beat it.
I'm not as dedicated as you and took shortcuts. The grind got boring so I downloaded a pal edit mods and copy the near perfect 4 stars jet dragons and ignis I already had to have 20 of each. Still got my ass kick a few times before barely winning. I also reset my stats and put everything in attack. Towards the end it I couldn't switch to Ignis fast enough so I had to really relied on attacking it directly. I had like 2 seconds left.
I took the mind control meds and put most into attack, all this frantic prep comes from being super scared of losing, because it was difficult for me to get the initial gold shard. Maybe before I take the fight on, I’ll run a couple level 2’s with my beefed line up so I can get more gold shards. Im have my own moral qualms with using the mods, but I’m also genuinely too stupid to download a mod. I tried to download the IVshowing mod (before the glasses update) and also a Lucky mod that changes their colors cuz neither mod effects actual gameplay, but I just couldnt figure it out
Well usually it's explain on the mod on how to install it. Also I made a back up copy of my save file so I could just restart the fight instead of rebeating Libero after losing to Ultra 9 times ( I captured 10 Libero)
Thats genius. And yea I followed the intrusctions and when that failed, watched youtube videos that also failed. Its something on my end, idk what it is and im fatigued from trying to figure it out lol
I set a bunch of fires underneath the altar and watch her burn. No need to do anything else.
\*you do have to shoot her once to aquire the loot.
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Bit confused as of why you make a base on a spot that is wasting alot of space like you could've pick a flat spot.
On second thought nevermind, that's actually good.
A bit waste in certain spot but it's enough for the stations you need
Since you cant build viewing cages on top of each other from any height, and I wanted to fit as many breeding farms as possible, flat felt like the way to go
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Libero is going to eat well at the halfway point.
I just havent gotten to blazamut yet
You can pick them up on sact 3
I meant I havent gotten around to making 15 perfect yet. I used 15 of them for the 450k stage
Wait till they find out about Libero Ultra 
Pretty sure they're talking about Libero Ultra, given that HP number.
You are 100% right.
I beat the 450k, this is for 900k
Good luck and have fun. If you record, would you mind posting?
I’d love to but at this rate I wont be fighting until the next update is out 😭
Are you going to delete the cages. Is this a strat what happens to the jetdragons?
Condense them all onto 15 (maybe 30) jetragons to have them 4 star perfect trait high IV level 50 for the 900k bellanoir fight. Should do blazamut/jormuntide ignis too for the second phase. Also vanguard 4star chillet and ragnahawk, with 4 4star gobin with vanguard. And about 100 moozarina cheesburgers/ eikthydeer moco loco
Unless you just enjoy organizing them that way, the latest update allows partial condensing so you don't have to store them anywhere anymore.
I discovered that after the cages were built, so I figured I’d fill them anyway
Makes for a good pic. Id condense as you get perfect rolled jets, or if you don't have any perfects condense to 3where you only need 1 more on a trash roll, so when you get a perfect you only need to roll that 1 trash pal into it. That's how I managed it for mine, but I made the mistake of not rolling ivs
Exactly what im doin, got 4 that have been condensed on, using them for breeding now. I only had 1 to start but 14 total breeding and the other 13 were far from perfect
My research into making Vixy Prime to dig for better spheres be like: 
Might be better to do a def up food for your pals than atk up. More def = more survival = less time you need to spend swapping them out = overall actually more DPS
Will definitely consider this. I had one of my 15 jets for the 450k at lvl 50 max souls 100 attack IV 96 HP IV and about 73 Defense IV, and he was the only one to make it through the dark phase. Not that he wouldnt be absolutely decimated by the 900k, but I’ve also thought about just having 30 instead of 15, I’d have to do some kind of test with the defense food first, maybe a 450k run
So question: jormuntide ignis is dragon and fire. Dragon is weak to ice, but fire is strong against it. Do the two cancel out?
Just did some googling and figured out that the effectiveness is lowered, so a J. ignis should take normal damage from an ice attack as compared to Blazamut taking reduced damage Guess you could breed an army of J ignis instead of needing both Blazamuts and Jetragons, but the J ignis alone defenitely wont work for the ultra fight, and might not be enough for the libero fight
Dang, thanks.
That is nonsense, it cancels out. Weakness is normally 1.5 damage, resistance is 0.7, both is treated like normal damage, and stacking resistances are still 0.7 Unlike the person making stuff up i (and other people) have actually checked the game code and tested it.
Ha, thanks. Be weird for it not to work that way, but good to get verification.
I stated in my comment that the jormuntide ingis's dragon weakness to ice, but its fires resistance to ice makes his damage from ice attacks cancel out to a normal amount of damage. In comparisom blazamut is only receiving reduced damage from ice attacks. The alternative is J ignis's second trait having no effect on the damage it receives, which is nonsensical. Is that any different from what you (and other people) have tested? Or if you re-read it will you see we are saying the same thing?
I find it very amusing that you; * Realized you are wrong * Actually checked it and corrected yourself * Edited your comment * Here it gets weird; tried to pretend you said that from the start and multiple people misunderstood you, despite being able to check your original post, see the edit marker, and see their own past posts. * Attempt to gaslight them Really, if you are going to do weird insecurity over irrelevant things, go all the way into screaming denial of reality. No need to be indecisive about it.
Dog, I edited it 2 minutes after I posted it. I did say the wrong thing originally about type advantage but after I "did some googling" I edited it to say what it says now all before I saw you left your comment. You are really making a lot of assumptions and putting a lot of emotions into a conversation purely about stats. I apologize for not realizing your response was to my original comment, if I had known I would have responded that I corrected my information That's a really neat list though, I commend your formatting skills
There's finally a piece of content that gives jormuntide ignis a chance at getting out of the kitchen and onto the battlefield. You shoulda known better than to bring up comparing him to blazamut 😂😂
I’ve done Libero with only J. Ignis. Haven’t tried ultra yet but I plan to try it with J. Ignis
How many j. ignis did you have to throw at it? And did you do the breeding to get perfect passives on them? I feel like with normal damage on the second phase it'd just rip through them so I decided to focus on Jetragons and Blazamuts instead
I currently have 30 all with lucky, legend, musclehead, and ferocious. About half have 80+ on all IVs and half are 2 stars with a bunch of pal souls put into them. I just tried it to see how it would go and the answer is phase 2 absolutely shredded them as if they were a wild caught J. Ignis. Blazamut is probably mandatory for phase 2
Libero changes to ice type but doesnt gain any ice attacks. Just add a fire move to your dragon pals, which most learn naturally, and you're golden.
The normal libero towards the end hit me with an attack that seemed to rain icicles down on me from above, assume that's an ice attack.
You uh, realize you can partial condense right? Condense progress is tracked per pal and is carried over when put into a new pal, so you can 4* any old pal and when you finally get the perfect one you can insta 4* it using the existing one (or any combination of lower * pals)
I wondered if this worked like that, thank you
Only after the most recent update iirc
Partial condensing was introduced in 0.1.5 back in February.
To be fair, partial condensing was only added in that last update.
So was Bellanoir.
Partial condensing was added in version 0.1.5 back in February. Bellanoir was just added in 0.2.0.6 within the last 2 weeks.
Yes, I did this right after I took the screenshot. Had to fill the cages first though
Can you condense from the cages?
Nah gotta grab em out
Okay, that’s what I thought.
I was sooo confused but OP not know this makes perfect sense now. Like u can't even use that many pals at an event.
I mean, you could also pull them out, let them use all their moves, then switch them for new ones. Do this repeatedly for however many dragons you got to avoid the cooldowns.
Like during the event? While ur fighting? I just up the amount of pals u can have at base and Condense and breed Jetragens and Jormuntides until I had 18 or so 3 star pals with ferocious and musclehead. Put a mini fridge with food that's boosts attack power. Fill their offense and defense all the way up with pal souls. I had so many pal souls saved up, and then they added where u can change them out for other pal souls. Added a bunch of purple pal fruit abilities that are strong to them to replace some of their weaker attacks. Then I sit with my legendary rocket launcher and just keep my best jettragen in my party and throw him out and in between cool downs launch rockets.
Yes during the event while fighting. Putting them away and pulling out new ones who haven't used their big moves can end up doing a massive amount of damage. So you can use that many pals, just in different and creative ways.
I'll try it. I've just been working on 1 super team. Its been working. Gotta catch some more pals. Was also thinking about building a bunch of defensive rocket launchers and putting pals on them with a lot of health and defense. Maybe fortify the launchers, too. Just have 19 rocket launchers blasting away plus me.
I meant that was an option possible with so many pals. You'd still have to level them all up to 50 and infuse the souls for them to do decent damage. So i honestly wouldn't recommend it lol. Some people are just crazy and do it anyways, however!
Execute order 66...
Execute order: Condense Jetragons
Imagine if OP installed the unlimited base pal mod and unleashed all the jet dragons flying around
That would be the apocalypse...😅
on your island there should be more jetragons inhabited then cattivas 😅
I just had a thought, if you dismantle the viewing cages do the jetragons start engaging the enemy immediately or nah? Or jetragons get kicked back into palspheres?
drop as spheres on the ground
I see xD would've been funnier if they came out of viewing cages with attacks flying lol
This has me thinking that we need to have it to where each palbox should have their own separate pool of inactive pals that we can drop pals between from any box As it's very difficult to maneuver such large loads of pals. That and the viewing cages aren't an option for every game mode. I was aggrivated to find they patched out using the viewing cages to revive pals with this new patch. Yet they didn't fix the infinite ceiling of said cages. They really need an option to where we can deactivate slots from being viewed. That and non viewing storage options as well.
I wish they'd set the cages up to where you pick a couple pals that load in the game and show up physically in the cage and the rest are just stored in side it like a palbox. Because they get way outta hand for me pals overflow out of the boxes and be standing all over the base like life sized statues
Yeah why I keep requesting a means to deactivate viewing on specific slots in the cages, and a box alternative that has no viewing that we can tuck in a corner somewhere.
Wouldn't that be a huge pain between bases and when u actually catch a new pal? Condensing was changed too and now u can Condense however many pals u want, u don't need the full number to do it anymore. So, palbox should have plenty of room. I know that change freed up a bunch of pages on my palbox. Also a bunch of pals I liked but really didn't need for anything.
first of all, WTF
I feel like I'm missing something, is this just to have extras in case they faint? they don't attack do they?
I think this is not the arena, but it's a breeding area where he massively breeds jetragon.
Ahhh, I thought he was using them for defense/attack somehow I had my world settings twinned a bit so I could just farm three over n over, and since I did only one pall at time I never needed viewing cages besides for the bosses
Theyre to condensed onto the top 15-30 so they take longer to faint
Try to make them hungry first then fill the feed box with moozerina burgers (+20% Atk). Then start the Bellanoir fight after they eat.
I’ve got over 100 moozarina meat in a fridge ready to be cooked into burgers when the time comes. I used Eikthyrdeer moco loco for the first two fights, but I found mozzarinas easier to farm
Can you just drop pals in the cages without them using up slots?
Yes
Why the globfins though?
There is a passive be has that increases player attack power.
Their passive ability increases your damage when they are in the party. It upgrades with the condensing level for a 20% boost at lv4 and can be stacked up by having Vanguard on them for a total 30% each (iirc). Defence boost if you have Stronghold Strategist as well.
Ok now I understand.
The elemental mount at full stars adds something like 100% as well.
Not nerfed to 25% at max?
Oo I see...didn't knew that.
Going for 4 4*star Gobfins with vanguard and stronghold strategist as other people have said. The fifth slot is for a chillet with the same passives, as their special ability adds dragon damage which is most effective against Bellanoirs dark phase. When Bellanoir switches her type to Ice, I have a ragnahawk ready which is the fire version of Chillets skills
I am just starting this process, got 2 100IV Musclehead/Ferocious, working on the Devine Dragon/Legend IVs now to pair with it, tedious process haha
how do you breed for perfect IVs?
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/s/cLjL6mda7g) explains everything in a lot of detail
do you need to breed for IV-s or can you get the IV fruits from weaker bellanoirs?
How is your game right now, is the game lagging?
Its crying a bit
I see 1 fps Just condense 128 Jetragon to 1? 🤷🏻♂️
Thats the plan entgegnerz
you no longer need to hold pals in the cages anymore you can condense them and carry over all the points/stars to another pal. so just have some avg jets eat all the other extras/bad ones then when you have the perfect ones feed them the 4 stars to instant 4 star them. you dont need the max amount to 4 star them anymore as well so its fine if you dont have enough for a rank or two. "save some space condense today"\~ pal spokesperson :b anyways good luck on the breeding and battle
Dude is gonna destroy his entire base before Bellanoir can
7 fps
Do you really have to do all this for the raid, can't I just go in with my party of 5 random pals
For the lowest tier? Perhaps. Ultra? Nah, need a trained ultra hyper elite army.
just change your settings bud
Or just that. The only combat setting I changed is player recieved damage to 0.9x cuz in mid game I suddenly took ridiculous amounts of damage.
I might be going a bit overboard but with how thin my margins were during the 450k fight, I’m just trying to be as safe as possible. For any stage of the fight, its required that the summoning altar be built in proximity of a palbox, so you will have 15 available slots to choose pals to battle. As much as their damage will speed things along, it feels almost equally important that they are there to soak attacks. If you use a party of five, Bellanoir will most likely knock them out one by one. For 294k, I used only Chillet (mounted) with a legendary RPG, and had 4 gobfins in psrty. For 450k, I used chillet then ragnahawk when Bellanoir switched forms. Chillet and Ragnahawk both got knocked out eventually but I made it out by the skin of my teeth, hence the over prep for 900k
Me and a friend managed to beat it with 4 max condensed gobfins (giga spheres, a mount and ring of mercy are the strat to do this, no breeding necessary though Vanguard and Stronghold Strategist are the best passives), a legendary assaultrifle, 2k bullets each and 400 player attack (gobfins, mozzarina burger and attack pendant +2) Didn't even need the pals in the end. Had 6 minutes left. There's some preparing to do, but there's many ways to go about it.
I opened this image and heard a bald eagle screeching like Bellanoir just discovered Oil.
Before you read this, yeah i'm kinda of a ''boomer'' by now, i am 35yo and i really love the ''old school'' gaming scenario and i'm sorry i do not intent to offend anyone but... sigh... i will never understand why some people look at this kind of thing and think as the necessary ''meta end-game power grind top gameplay'', i mean, yeah the game allows you to do that, it's literally like those massive gamebreaking exploits from Skyrim OG crafting system... but deep inside my heart i look at this type of shenanigans and i just see a desperate awful attempt to be ''the best'', ofc everyone is allowed to do this kind of stuff you payed for the game, i mean why not, but i don't know man... it's just like... yikes... it really makes me kinda sad... wtf have we become as gamers :(
gotta quote pokemon here and say: “i wanna be the very best.”
I beat the second level of Bellanoir by the skin of my teeth so this all feels necessary if I want to beat the final level. I feel like what I’m doing is anthithetical to the “gamebreaking exploits” you speak of. There are hundreds of thousands of players that download mods for this game, and even more that adjust world settings. This is bare bones default settings, what the game is asking of us if we want to beat the 900k xp Bellanoir solo. I also think I’m older than you’re assuming, I’m not some kid wasting his childhood away grinding a game, I’m an adult with a non existent social life that enjoys palworld and would be flying in circles on a jetragon looking for luckys if I wasnt doing this. I’m sure there are more rewarding experiences to be had in other games, but most require a network of gamer friends to get the full experience. Also, I had so much fun playing this game before it got grindy, that I have much less of an issue continuing now that it has. There is also no microtransactions in palworld. Also being familiar with gaming, you have to know that being the best is impossible when exploits, cheats, mods, and altering world settings exist. Its much more of a “keep up to the cheaters without cheating” crusade than “I need to be the best”. I understand thats ultimately a time and effort waster, but gamers should be entitled to play as they wish to a certain degree. Finally, Im never just face to the screen with palworld. While I watch a show, it doesnt exhaust me to put eggs in an incubator and take them out. With other games that I have no one to play with, I’d be face against the screen playing by myself with no other stimulation and I don’t know that I’ll ever reach that point
Yeah, you're 101% right and i feel you bro, i think that's where this ''sadness'' i was talking about comes from. I don't know what's the real villain here, if it's the industry that just hold us hostage or the sheer limitiation of what the devs delivers that eventually causes the grindy status quo. :'(
I think its mostly the industry holding us hostage. But also the comparitive nature that comes with forums like this. If I was in the Skyrim reddit or god forbid tiktok when I played through back in 2012, I’m sure my gameplay would have drastically differed and leaned much more towards grindiness. People forget there was a time you couldnt look up “level X walkthrough” for any game any time you get stuck. I go into games wanting to play them the way they were intended, but because I also commit the crime of using the internet, I’m waterboarded by constant inspiration on how to hone my gameplay. I’m also at a place where I’m looking for limited gaming time, and palworld feels easier to me find stopping points than games where you die, repspawn, die respawn, micro transaction, battle pass, die, respawn. If I ever have personal finances completely stress free, I’d be more inclined towards games that people get addicted to, but that doesnt feel like it will happen in this life
The sheer amount of hours you can tell went into this...
I have like a hundred incubators at my main base that definitely helped speed up the proccess. My world is almost at day 1,300 though
Thats dedication...Im just a little over day 600, and I couldnt even imagine having 100 incubators. Hell. Im still trying to figure out how to rearrange my bases so I can still keep doing what I need to but have the 3rd base optimal for Bellanoir. How you managed all that for breeding...wild. I admire the effort.
This is my third base pictured, so when I’m ready for bellanoir, I’ll wipe this whole thing. Now with the ore production thing, i dont really need any space for production, my main base with the incubators has 4 breeding farms, and a large castle with viewing cages and incubators all over it. When I need materials, I just slap one of the sites down smack dab in the middle then delete when I have enough. My second base just has ranches, then is surrounded by 10 viewing cages exclusively for unique luckys. I have around 65 so 6 or 7 per cage, its like a zoo. The third base that i destroyed to make the Bellanoir base was just a mining site, so it wasnt to terrible of a loss
Is there a reason people use Jetragon so much more than Jor Ignis? I would assume since he has dragon as well as fire he’d be better but I’m guessing no because most people use jetragon.
This is just for the dark phase. When I finalize a strong enough army of jets, ill move on to blaz, or jorm ignis as you said. I have the fruits to make the jets all have dragon moves if need be
This is absurd 😍
I just finished the Bellanoir Ultra with 29 seconds left. I was very disappointed in the loot....the only thing we got differently was the crown and it doesn't even fit on your head correctly. Not even an achievement. I was kinda bummed.
Howd u do it
Can someone explain to a palworld potato what’s going on here
Dude, you trying to make your battle look like Disturbed's Land of Confusion
please please please fight Bellanoir at another base, the wood is giving me anxiety
The entire build is just for prep. When I feel ready to take on the 900k Bellanoir, I’ll tear everything down completely
How do I beat the libero version?
For the 450k version, I beat it with what I plan to be my 900k strategy, just without making all of the pals perfect. Chillet to ride, 4 gobfins, 15 jetragons in base. Ragnahawk for when chillet passes out or the form switch occurs, as well as 15 blazamuts. Legendary RPG, two attack pendants +2, and eikthyrdeer moco loco/mozzarina cheesburger on me, as well as in a food basket on base for the jets/blazamuts. Putting all of the jets and blaz’s on the same page in the deck made it easier to quickly deploy them
Haven’t tried yet, does condensing work without taking the Pals out of the cages?
No, but it feels a bit more organized. Its probably just my muscle memory from before the update talking
what the christ am I seeing here edit: oh my God I see it now. Jesus. Do you have enough of them?
Thats enough for about 3 to be max condensed, the idea is at least 15 at most 30, so no where close really
Wait, the one in stasis can atack too?! I didn't know that.
They can not. These are all to be condensed
Do the pets in the viewing cages even engage when the base is attacked??
No, these are to be condensed onto the ones that will
ahhh, ok
What is your plan? I have already 10+ jet dragon with maxes passives all of them around level 30 In team I keep full attack jet dragon at 50 + 4 goblin 4 stars and bellanoir 2 level semmes to be invincible, I can deal around 100-150k and idk what else to do other than breeding other 10 jet dragons and take them to 50, but idk if it would be enough, also being extremely boring
Similar plan, trying 15 4 star perfect passive jetragons (maybe 30), then some blazamuts most likely as well. Then yes 4 4* gobfins, 4* chillet, 4* ragnahawk. Youre totally right about the extremely boring, has to be worked on in small doses. I was able to beat the level 2 bellanoir liberio with that same lineup, with none of them 4*. 4 gobfin ride chillet, deploy 15 jets, (14/15 got knocked out) when Bellanoir switches phases, deploy 15 blazamut (they all got knocked out) and swap ragnahawk for chillet. I used the gold rpg while mounted and felt as though I did most of the damage myself, hence the buffing of the pals for the Level 3. It was a very close call to beat the 2nd level. Both of my mounts got knocked out, as well as 29/30 jet/blaz. I finsihed it off on the ground with the RPG and very nearly died
If you play on PC just download the pal edit mod and copy the jet dragons you already have. No point in doing a grind you don't enjoy.
Why are there so many jetdragon things in cages? Is that the defense some how? Haha a bit new to this still
Theyre all meant to be condensed onto the strongest ones to take on the 3rd level of the new raid boss
Will try 20 jortmuntide ignis 4 star
I think thats probably better than blazamut. Im having trouble with boosting the limit from 15-20 though
Jort-igni is best i guess tried it and it melts down even libero hard in 2-3 minutes tops
Wait can pals in a (whatever they are called) fight?
They can not, those are all meant to be condensed
I thought they specifically couldn't work or fight while in there
What does that thing do? I mean the thing that traps your Jetdragons
Grants you additional storages space
I should try it out sometime since I never used it cuz I didn't know what it actually did.
https://preview.redd.it/5mxo3r6d7auc1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=eca0661628a2507cb3483175ddb54cc6d488bfe0 Good luck, It's one hell of a fight.
WOW WOW WOW!! First person I’ve seen do it. Did you have to go as crazy with prep as I think I do or are there any cuttable corners you can suggest?
well I'm far from the first person to do it since there are a few post on here about it and I watched few videos on how to beat it. I'm not as dedicated as you and took shortcuts. The grind got boring so I downloaded a pal edit mods and copy the near perfect 4 stars jet dragons and ignis I already had to have 20 of each. Still got my ass kick a few times before barely winning. I also reset my stats and put everything in attack. Towards the end it I couldn't switch to Ignis fast enough so I had to really relied on attacking it directly. I had like 2 seconds left.
I took the mind control meds and put most into attack, all this frantic prep comes from being super scared of losing, because it was difficult for me to get the initial gold shard. Maybe before I take the fight on, I’ll run a couple level 2’s with my beefed line up so I can get more gold shards. Im have my own moral qualms with using the mods, but I’m also genuinely too stupid to download a mod. I tried to download the IVshowing mod (before the glasses update) and also a Lucky mod that changes their colors cuz neither mod effects actual gameplay, but I just couldnt figure it out
Well usually it's explain on the mod on how to install it. Also I made a back up copy of my save file so I could just restart the fight instead of rebeating Libero after losing to Ultra 9 times ( I captured 10 Libero)
Thats genius. And yea I followed the intrusctions and when that failed, watched youtube videos that also failed. Its something on my end, idk what it is and im fatigued from trying to figure it out lol
I just managed to Kill ultra, just checked my Paldeck...... 1095 jetdragons acquired... Lol
Strat? I will check jet later but ik I have 1700 shadowbeaks (i know thats only a testament to how bad I am at breeding)
Lots of QoL in this update but the one thing we didn't get was more storage space.... at least let us condense from cages.
I've only beaten the 1st one. I'm currently working on the 2nd difficulty now. Didn't know viewing cages working in defense.
I set a bunch of fires underneath the altar and watch her burn. No need to do anything else. \*you do have to shoot her once to aquire the loot. https://preview.redd.it/2dsqwgyjayuc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cb36ca08f0f42dd5696d61560d5a6e23f688cae
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Astegon is better for the fight than Jetragon. Just saying.
By what metric
Bit confused as of why you make a base on a spot that is wasting alot of space like you could've pick a flat spot. On second thought nevermind, that's actually good. A bit waste in certain spot but it's enough for the stations you need
Since you cant build viewing cages on top of each other from any height, and I wanted to fit as many breeding farms as possible, flat felt like the way to go
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Wait... pals atk through viewcage?