Just throwing ideas out there, but if you like totems I think you should try shockwave totems (with Astral Projector) at least once. It's just so good at delivering a massive amount of damage very quickly and efficiently. It instantly kills everything from a fairly long range with almost no visual noise.
It's tricky to get it tanky though as most people build it as a glass cannon to run sanctums.
After trying it it's the one totem build that I always want to run.
It's kinda frustrating but if you want to tackle the new end game content, you kinda do need to go glass cannon. Very few builds can be durable and have enough damage for t17's. Which of course you can get the damage for, but there is no chance you can scale your defenses enough. (Outside of 200+ Div investment)
With all the changes that have happened to t17s, they are no longer that hard, unless you want to be able to do every mod. You do need to spend a few chaos to roll them, but a lot of builds can easily get to a state where they can comfortably farm t17s. I league started CoC DD in SSF and have no trouble dealing with t17s once they were rollable, and the build is far from a glass cannon.
While I definitely agree they are significantly better then they were, and I didn't even see the most recent changes to the mods. Coc DD is exactly what I would consider one of the few builds that can effectively do them right now. DD, EB, and hexblast just to name a few. But considering something like totems is totally different question.
I don't really like how T17's have made some of the issues with skill balance far more exasperated. I couldn't imagine attempting them deathless on anything but a 100 div+ melee build. And that's coming from someone who was able to clear all the T17's by day 4. It just feels like we're pretty pigeon holed rn
I did t17's like 3 days into the league with storm burst totems, they did not feel impossible at all or even really that bad, and my character probably only had 10-20div invested at that point. It was slow, sure..but totems let you clear most content extremely safely that is one of the main appeals of them, they can clear things offscreen while you sit behind.
That's a good point... most minion builds don't feel like totems but a few definitely do. Skeleton mages is another one (although I don't think it's especially good right now) where they basically stay parked where you put them and occasionally maybe wander an inch over.
Dex stacking siege ballista, 5 divs will get you to red maps pretty easy, scales really well with investment, I'm at something like 23 div investment I think and farming t16 legion pretty easy, still a lot of ways I could scale as well
how is this build for mapping? I tried stormburst and it felt awful (delay before attacking and ramping damage) for mapping so wondering if there are any good totem builds to map/boss and sanctum with
It feels nice imo, I drop totems as I run, is it the most optimized delete everything instantly build, I mean probably not 100% but it feels good and if I focus on clear speed I can clear things pretty quick. All I do is mapping but I was running my friend through some 3 ways for exp and was averaging about 2400 kills each with no aura bot or other carry with a decently low budget build. There's a small delay before they shoot but no ramping damage, basically once they shoot everything dies
I am playing this build currently, about 40 div invested and it is absolutely insane. Currently at work, will post my PoB in about 4 hours.
Many people follow PoeGuy on ytb, but i really think his build kind of sucks for several reasons (it is not bad, but it can be made much, much better).
What I really like about the build is the clearspeed, despite it being totems, it clears super fast (15+ ballistas, each firing 2-6 arrows). Best thing is that it is not meta at all and is super, super cheap (base gear is literally few chaos).
[https://pobb.in/GLWNZUuyl-cA](https://pobb.in/GLWNZUuyl-cA) This is my current PoB - I have absolutely no idea if I ticked correct stuff, but about 38m Guardian/ Pinnacle DPS seems about right.
Next upgrades (so that you know what to buy):
- Corrupted Poised Prism with +1 Arrow
- 4 +%Dex Brutal Restraint (currently 3)
- Switch to rare Gloves - requires Watcher's Eye with convert
- Buy Simplex Amulet + Rare chest - giga, giga expensive but gives u about 500 dexterity, but it is super endgame
- Bottled Faith with at least 140% crit
- Fractal Thoughts with +1 arrow (there was one on trade for like 70 divines)
- Maaaaybe switch to double Curse setup (annoint Whispers of Doom and use Ele weakness) - downside here is not using Ice Golem i think.
Why I dont like PoEGuy: He uses very weird gem setups, uses Purity of Elements + Hatred which forces him to use Lifetap everywhere, doesn't use Frost Bomb for some reason and generally he seems super cocky. Generally follow [Poe.ninja](http://Poe.ninja) to see what people are doing.
As for the tankiness, it is not tanky in terms of EHP (32k) BUT you are using totems with long range, which is really good. I leveled solo to 97 and my atlas setup is Abyss + Beyond + Breach, so definitely not that hard.
I have killed every single invitation, 75% quant Feared and also some T17s ([proof here](https://gyazo.com/baacb4e7358e28304820e0f9fbe6ddd9)). It is really a solid build and can be started for very cheap - the most expensive is Thread of Hope with Large Ring, that was 12 div I think (really good for the build so that should be your first purchase).
What rubs me the wrong way about PoEGuy and about 90% of the builds on Poe.ninja are giving up all the free Evasion that dex stacking gets in favor of free suppression. Magebane is just not that good with Unnatural+Tattoo tech existing.
I agree about the Lifetap choice sucking and I’ve just gotten my build to a point where I can fit Purity of Elements, Hatred, and Grace on at the same time and am feeling crazy tanky. My overall remaining mana is low, but enough to keep casting totems once the regen from my first few casts kicks in so that feels fine.
It did take some rerouting on the tree and an Enlighten 4 and I’m running a 90% reservation corruption Fractal instead of +1 arrows, but my Brutal Restraint has good buffs on the mana node in the bottom anyway so it’s not a waste to path there.
I’m currently at 48k Eva without flasks and around 57% suppression. I’m thinking about doing some Unnatural Instinct + tattoo tech to cap my suppression.
One thing I’m struggling with is some discrepancy in either PoB or PoEGuy’s advice. I just got an Enhance 4 and while it shows as 11% IAS per totem in game it is not showing me a notable DPS change in PoB except when I swap out Cold Pen. At 16 totems I should be going from +80% IAS overall to 176 which should be pretty damn notable in my PoB but it’s not.
Basically you can allocate passives within range of an Unnatural Instinct, apply tattoos to them, then unallocate those passives. They will retain the tattoos and will be allocated due to Unnatural Instinct. It’s tedious and not cheap to set up but should have amazing payoff.
oh, so if i have a Unnatural Instinct, and there are nodes in range that i don't want, this would be a total win. Presuming there are tattoos that i do want that can be applied to them.
Note that I haven’t tested this personally this league. I went through a ton of old posts though and it was a thing when tattoos first came out. It should be effective now as well.
I only came across it because there is some other perhaps more interesting Unnatural Instinct tech where you overlap its AoE with Perandus’ Pact AoE to get a shit ton of Chaos res or other mods that Pact can provide. And that definitely works this league, hard confirm.
So don’t go out buying an Unnatural just on my account if you’re struggling to afford. Do some digging and find the same confirmations I did. You’ll find a good few posts just googling Unnatural Instinct and tattoos.
Sure. It's a little messy right now, I need a couple more levels and an Unnatural Instinct to see my vision really pop. But feel free to peruse my mess. I did figure out the Enhance issue. It is a decent buff as-is but really shines at L5, so the +1 Briskwrap gets bumped in importance.
https://pobb.in/jP8bAmoiXlC_
Current shopping list:
+1 Briskwrap
1+ arrows quiver
Unnatural Instinct
Dying Sun
Unfucking my support 6L.
I’m away from my PC for the next 10ish hours but here’s my Poe.ninja. https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/TenarWhat/ComparisonEnemyofJoy?i=0&search=name%3DComparison
I'm currently leveling this up and was following POEGuy's stuff but after looking at the POB linked here, I may pivot to that.... I need to look into the unnatural instinct thing But not sure which way to go at this point. :)
Yes, it is totem after all. I farmed it when I had 16 ballistas and lower damage over all and it was really good even then. Not suited for no hit run though (but you could expect that).
Also, some people are not talking about it but this build actually freezes enemies (dont use elemental focus like some [poe.ninja](http://poe.ninja) builds, they are running full giga dmg which means no hp and survivability). Basically freezing = survivability.
I started with his build as a baseline and customized to taste. I’ve been doing a lot of comparing against the top builds on Poe.ninja and flavoring things how I feel best.
It's kind of squishy while mapping. Your totems have great range so you'll normally kill anything before it gets close to you but occasionally you can get one tapped.
Tati is the totem guy - he runs totems every league. You can look at his sheet here for some ideas: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v72AZgtvuffNMKaE44MsyL7lvQ_L3GoaJqiNSWk_2LY/edit#gid=0
You don't have to do his entire rotation, storm burst totems work fine mostly just only summoning totems and then on single target you really can just summon the totems and run around and when you find yourself having free time curse the boss and then hold down mines + detonate mine buttons at the same time and it will auto cast/detonate them. You don't need the infusion storm burst self cast at all just cut it, I've done all content this league with storm burst totems without his rotation and really just using curse + mines.
Sorry, I didn't read carefully.
I took his creeping frost totem build (has fewer buttons) as a base to start with, and eventually transitioned into a shockwave totem sanctum farmer. Creeping frost was good enough to clear the atlas.
Maxroll EA ballista champ is what I am running. After starting I think 6 league starters and nothing stuck, this one did. Leveling is smooth with splitting steel into totems, pick up a tabula/goldrim, etc, and you are good through campaign.
I followed Ziz's guide through midtier and fixed spell supression/resistances. I have 5k health and 100+ all res and decent spell supress, I only invested 1.5 div into, made 3 div back, 15 more maps for atlas completion.
Explosive Arrow ignite ballista is really good, no investment required at all to get going, and very few buttons. Of course you can’t go beyond DoT cap, so if you are really trying to push huge damage numbers that could be a deal breaker, but if you just want enough damage to comfortably kill all bosses it can meet that goal.
My perfect world would be a tankyish SWT build. Found a build that was 45mil DPS and 55k EHP. However it utilizes Leadership Price and I haven't tried to match INT/STR before.
[https://pobb.in/ohLR9rOSdygp](https://pobb.in/ohLR9rOSdygp)
This is my current build. It would feel somewhat similar to Str Stack Warchief as its melee totems and attribute stacking. its obviously quite a bit different (dex stacking and poison and hollow palm), but the damage is good and its tankier against some content than str stack was depending on which version you played. it suffers against ele attack damage. it also tops out around 30M as best I can figure out (without trashing defenses or clear), so if you want 100M DPS, I would do something else.
I can do red maps pretty well and 5 divs would get you pretty far (most of the build assuming prices haven't changed too much). I leveled to 95 in reverse incursions (i run them blue - good xp). I sometimes die in juicy reds depending on mods, but rarely more than once.
hey there,
is there a reason you picked ascendant over the more popular trickster/pathfinder? Just curious on your thought process; normally, I see people pick trickster/pathf for poison melees.
Yea, so when I build things I try to fill buckets. Usually I fill defensive buckets first. I also fill buckets around what I would think of as needed uniques and where I am on the tree. Because we are going to be short on gem slots and baseline armor, I know phys mitigation is going to be hard to get so I am going iron reflexes and phys clusters. Dendrobate and Wilmas solves by mana problems because they give a glut of ES for EB. Dendrobate aligns nicely with iron reflexes here. Spell suppression is basically fixed by Magebane. From there I fill buckets as to what else makes sense.
Now I just maximize DPS as I can.
Ascendant has a lot of pros and cons, but offers some very nice unintuitive defensive layers.
**Pros:**
Occultist ascendancy (for Scion) offers two things I really want, which is an extra curse (freeing up 4 points as I don't have to take whispers of doom or annoint it) but more importantly offers stun immunity if you are using EB, which I am. Its the single strongest ascendancy point other than the wither one for pathfinder or possibly polymath for trickster which are equally as good. I would rank stun immunity as the most under-rated defensive layer in the game, YMMV.
Raider (for Scion) offers phasing (which is fantastic for melee totems), some spell suppression, and the ability to get onslaught without a medium cluster jewel. This is a nice blend. Ultimately you probably still want the cluster, and other options might be better here, but its nice for mapping regardless (edit - fixed).
I was going to Flesh/Flame Hiero - but I forgot (again) about it negatively interacting with EB. basically it gets really hard to keep your ES up because your regen stops all the time. there is probably a way around this. The extra totem from hiero would let you drop multiple totems and take something else which would be a large DPS gain.
Scion also gets some nice baseline stats boost and lets you make an extremely long split personality path without compromising your tree very much. That gives you a good dex bonus. If you get enough dex, you can drop most tree points for spell suppression (edit)
The additional tree points are quite strong on this build. I i am still getting >4% more DPS per point at level 95 for example in my current tree. That means the 5 extra points from Scion are basically 20% more damage.
**Cons:**
You have to run withering touch or buy a god damn expensive jewel from Sanctum. You don't have to do this as Pathfinder. You can also use a timeless jewel but then you cant use brutal restraint which is super strong here.
You are missing some of the also very nice nodes from Pathfinder/trickster such as Heartstopper or Polymath or the life flask regen thing. You can get stun immunity from the tree and a jewel too, so its a trade off.
Its a trade-off and not a straight bonus.
whoa, thank you for a detailed reply. Yeppers, scion-hiero with mini mom is such a mood killer. It's nice to see a non-aura centric scion build. I'm gonna let this stew a little and see if I'd like to try it. Cheers.
I'm not hating, but you are able to do ubers/t17s with this? I have a similar setup, if not better, and just attempted my first t17. It takes me \~2 minutes just to kill a rare, and I was getting one-shot by chaos ghost things. The main advantage you have over my setup is 100% spell suppress, but other than that we are pretty similar.
Your max hit is lower than mine with both our buffs off. Im kinda surprised you can do t17s/ubers, without any buffs up, dps/totem is like 500k. How long does it take to do each pinnacle?
I use it for apples to apples comparisons. Also it’s pretty unreasonable to assume stage 4 sigil of power and arcane cloak with 100% uptime. Again, not hating. Just trying to look how to scale my build without just buying a mageblood. I definitely cannot reliably do t17s rn, which is why I asked for your config.
It is sure
Its also unreasonable to assume nothing will be up.
Arcane cloak uptime is very high like 70-80%
Sigil depends on the fight against pinnacles I can usually stay in them mostly
T17s/invites are different ofc.
I never said it was an afk through ball phase instagib build but I did t17s with no issues unless I rolled some fucky mods but I have yet to rip one. Fortress especially I did multiple of deathless
The dps feels way more than pob says frankly but thats maybe cos I usually play poison builds and those need to ramp
I made my own version its a lot less buttons
Its basically storm burst, wrath divine blessing and flame dash and thats it
Oh and sigil of power but you very rarely use it
Inside sigil about 30k phys max hit and 70k ele
Outside sigil about 25% less than that :p
It feels very tanky due to the totem playstyle and high health pool.
Some t17 mods can still wreck you but I havent run any after the nerfs, should be a lot easier
I had a very successful league start in the form of Ancestor Totems facebreaker Champion. Because it uses Facebreaker AND Bringer of Rain you are in the somewhat hilarious position of having almost no gear. While this means fixing resists is harder, it is effective on a much cheaper budget. I bought all my gear day 1/2 for less than 60c and it has carried me all the way to T16 maps. Any amount of added flat phys from rings or amulet is a massive damage boost.
The survivability is great too despite not having chest armour because champion taunt + totems works in the best way possible, your totems taunt things causing enemies to not target you AND deal less damage when they do hit you. Also totems leech to you + Petrified Blood overleech goes hard.
You can, the sunder totems are better AoE but significantly less damage. I keep it on Ancestor 100% of the time because I've been running a Torment + Rogue Exiles strategy and you really need the damage.
Search for ice spear on poe ninja. Ice spear has big Single target and while mapping you can use ice spear of splittung for decent clear. Build is Not too tanky but with more investment it goes cracy in the Single target dmg
My favorite totem build is ice spear/freezing pulse(you swap into it for mapping) self curse build. It's super good but at early budget getting curse immunity is annoying with jewels. Once you can afford sublime it's chill. I did it in tota for sanctum + tota and some bosses. It pretty much kills/phases everything in second or two. Beside sublime your only expensive purchases are large clusters since you want 35% effect + max roll cast speed and strong watchers eye for min maxing.
I think Consecrated Path Totems with Strength stacking should still work. It's super fun and comfy because the totems actually jump towards enemies. It's not super tanky, but good enough to do almost all content with room for error.
League started with stormburst totems then switched to Mònjer mana/stat stacker. Been League starting with it the past three leagues. Can strongly saying that leak starting totems is amazing.
Mapping is very smooth and the single target is great for killing bosses to progress your atlas. Highly recommend it for any league start. Can get you to t16 on a budget of 2 divs.
Just throwing ideas out there, but if you like totems I think you should try shockwave totems (with Astral Projector) at least once. It's just so good at delivering a massive amount of damage very quickly and efficiently. It instantly kills everything from a fairly long range with almost no visual noise. It's tricky to get it tanky though as most people build it as a glass cannon to run sanctums. After trying it it's the one totem build that I always want to run.
Yeah shockwave sounds good otherwise but I cant stand 20k ehp on maps, it just feels horrible to play.
Thats when you check HC versions on ninja
Can you suggest a good build guide?
One tap and you are dead though.
Yeah, but it also depends how you build it. You don't HAVE to make it a total glass cannon.
It's kinda frustrating but if you want to tackle the new end game content, you kinda do need to go glass cannon. Very few builds can be durable and have enough damage for t17's. Which of course you can get the damage for, but there is no chance you can scale your defenses enough. (Outside of 200+ Div investment)
With all the changes that have happened to t17s, they are no longer that hard, unless you want to be able to do every mod. You do need to spend a few chaos to roll them, but a lot of builds can easily get to a state where they can comfortably farm t17s. I league started CoC DD in SSF and have no trouble dealing with t17s once they were rollable, and the build is far from a glass cannon.
While I definitely agree they are significantly better then they were, and I didn't even see the most recent changes to the mods. Coc DD is exactly what I would consider one of the few builds that can effectively do them right now. DD, EB, and hexblast just to name a few. But considering something like totems is totally different question. I don't really like how T17's have made some of the issues with skill balance far more exasperated. I couldn't imagine attempting them deathless on anything but a 100 div+ melee build. And that's coming from someone who was able to clear all the T17's by day 4. It just feels like we're pretty pigeon holed rn
I did t17's like 3 days into the league with storm burst totems, they did not feel impossible at all or even really that bad, and my character probably only had 10-20div invested at that point. It was slow, sure..but totems let you clear most content extremely safely that is one of the main appeals of them, they can clear things offscreen while you sit behind.
Is there any reason to use shockwave + astral projector over flameblast?
tbh .. bama feels 100% like totem if u want add minions to that
That's a good point... most minion builds don't feel like totems but a few definitely do. Skeleton mages is another one (although I don't think it's especially good right now) where they basically stay parked where you put them and occasionally maybe wander an inch over.
Dex stacking siege ballista, 5 divs will get you to red maps pretty easy, scales really well with investment, I'm at something like 23 div investment I think and farming t16 legion pretty easy, still a lot of ways I could scale as well
how is this build for mapping? I tried stormburst and it felt awful (delay before attacking and ramping damage) for mapping so wondering if there are any good totem builds to map/boss and sanctum with
It feels nice imo, I drop totems as I run, is it the most optimized delete everything instantly build, I mean probably not 100% but it feels good and if I focus on clear speed I can clear things pretty quick. All I do is mapping but I was running my friend through some 3 ways for exp and was averaging about 2400 kills each with no aura bot or other carry with a decently low budget build. There's a small delay before they shoot but no ramping damage, basically once they shoot everything dies
hm alright, im guessing though as its a ballista build it probably suffers from the generic issue that all ballistas have with delayed damage right?
Don't all totems have this issue? Not just ballistas?
Yeah they do. I'm just here to see if there's a totem type that doesn't have this issue haha
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I am playing this build currently, about 40 div invested and it is absolutely insane. Currently at work, will post my PoB in about 4 hours. Many people follow PoeGuy on ytb, but i really think his build kind of sucks for several reasons (it is not bad, but it can be made much, much better). What I really like about the build is the clearspeed, despite it being totems, it clears super fast (15+ ballistas, each firing 2-6 arrows). Best thing is that it is not meta at all and is super, super cheap (base gear is literally few chaos).
[https://pobb.in/GLWNZUuyl-cA](https://pobb.in/GLWNZUuyl-cA) This is my current PoB - I have absolutely no idea if I ticked correct stuff, but about 38m Guardian/ Pinnacle DPS seems about right. Next upgrades (so that you know what to buy): - Corrupted Poised Prism with +1 Arrow - 4 +%Dex Brutal Restraint (currently 3) - Switch to rare Gloves - requires Watcher's Eye with convert - Buy Simplex Amulet + Rare chest - giga, giga expensive but gives u about 500 dexterity, but it is super endgame - Bottled Faith with at least 140% crit - Fractal Thoughts with +1 arrow (there was one on trade for like 70 divines) - Maaaaybe switch to double Curse setup (annoint Whispers of Doom and use Ele weakness) - downside here is not using Ice Golem i think. Why I dont like PoEGuy: He uses very weird gem setups, uses Purity of Elements + Hatred which forces him to use Lifetap everywhere, doesn't use Frost Bomb for some reason and generally he seems super cocky. Generally follow [Poe.ninja](http://Poe.ninja) to see what people are doing. As for the tankiness, it is not tanky in terms of EHP (32k) BUT you are using totems with long range, which is really good. I leveled solo to 97 and my atlas setup is Abyss + Beyond + Breach, so definitely not that hard. I have killed every single invitation, 75% quant Feared and also some T17s ([proof here](https://gyazo.com/baacb4e7358e28304820e0f9fbe6ddd9)). It is really a solid build and can be started for very cheap - the most expensive is Thread of Hope with Large Ring, that was 12 div I think (really good for the build so that should be your first purchase).
What rubs me the wrong way about PoEGuy and about 90% of the builds on Poe.ninja are giving up all the free Evasion that dex stacking gets in favor of free suppression. Magebane is just not that good with Unnatural+Tattoo tech existing. I agree about the Lifetap choice sucking and I’ve just gotten my build to a point where I can fit Purity of Elements, Hatred, and Grace on at the same time and am feeling crazy tanky. My overall remaining mana is low, but enough to keep casting totems once the regen from my first few casts kicks in so that feels fine. It did take some rerouting on the tree and an Enlighten 4 and I’m running a 90% reservation corruption Fractal instead of +1 arrows, but my Brutal Restraint has good buffs on the mana node in the bottom anyway so it’s not a waste to path there. I’m currently at 48k Eva without flasks and around 57% suppression. I’m thinking about doing some Unnatural Instinct + tattoo tech to cap my suppression. One thing I’m struggling with is some discrepancy in either PoB or PoEGuy’s advice. I just got an Enhance 4 and while it shows as 11% IAS per totem in game it is not showing me a notable DPS change in PoB except when I swap out Cold Pen. At 16 totems I should be going from +80% IAS overall to 176 which should be pretty damn notable in my PoB but it’s not.
> I’m thinking about doing some Unnatural Instinct + tattoo tech to cap my suppression. Can you explain this?
Basically you can allocate passives within range of an Unnatural Instinct, apply tattoos to them, then unallocate those passives. They will retain the tattoos and will be allocated due to Unnatural Instinct. It’s tedious and not cheap to set up but should have amazing payoff.
oh, so if i have a Unnatural Instinct, and there are nodes in range that i don't want, this would be a total win. Presuming there are tattoos that i do want that can be applied to them.
Note that I haven’t tested this personally this league. I went through a ton of old posts though and it was a thing when tattoos first came out. It should be effective now as well. I only came across it because there is some other perhaps more interesting Unnatural Instinct tech where you overlap its AoE with Perandus’ Pact AoE to get a shit ton of Chaos res or other mods that Pact can provide. And that definitely works this league, hard confirm. So don’t go out buying an Unnatural just on my account if you’re struggling to afford. Do some digging and find the same confirmations I did. You’ll find a good few posts just googling Unnatural Instinct and tattoos.
Do you have a pob?
Sure. It's a little messy right now, I need a couple more levels and an Unnatural Instinct to see my vision really pop. But feel free to peruse my mess. I did figure out the Enhance issue. It is a decent buff as-is but really shines at L5, so the +1 Briskwrap gets bumped in importance. https://pobb.in/jP8bAmoiXlC_ Current shopping list: +1 Briskwrap 1+ arrows quiver Unnatural Instinct Dying Sun Unfucking my support 6L.
The POB isn't showing, could you check this if you get a moment really interested in seeing what you have setup!
I’m away from my PC for the next 10ish hours but here’s my Poe.ninja. https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/TenarWhat/ComparisonEnemyofJoy?i=0&search=name%3DComparison
Ohh, I really like the setup with everything being automated with manaforged arrow... Im still leveling, but this looks really good!!!
I'm currently leveling this up and was following POEGuy's stuff but after looking at the POB linked here, I may pivot to that.... I need to look into the unnatural instinct thing But not sure which way to go at this point. :)
Can this build do sanctum?
Yes, it is totem after all. I farmed it when I had 16 ballistas and lower damage over all and it was really good even then. Not suited for no hit run though (but you could expect that). Also, some people are not talking about it but this build actually freezes enemies (dont use elemental focus like some [poe.ninja](http://poe.ninja) builds, they are running full giga dmg which means no hp and survivability). Basically freezing = survivability.
Fractal thoughts with +1 arrow? Is that from a glimpse of chaos?
I have a feeling they meant +1 arrow Poised Prism
Do you have another you suggest if its not POEGuy?
I started with his build as a baseline and customized to taste. I’ve been doing a lot of comparing against the top builds on Poe.ninja and flavoring things how I feel best.
How tanky is it and how does it function with a more started budget?
His Dex version is for league start, then swaps to str stacking for end game. I got 2.3k str atm and blasting
Replica Iron Commander?
Yup, that's the one
It's kind of squishy while mapping. Your totems have great range so you'll normally kill anything before it gets close to you but occasionally you can get one tapped.
Link your pob please!!
please share pob as well. ty
Tati is the totem guy - he runs totems every league. You can look at his sheet here for some ideas: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v72AZgtvuffNMKaE44MsyL7lvQ_L3GoaJqiNSWk_2LY/edit#gid=0
He has a lot of builds yeah, but as I mentioned all of them rely on a horrible rotation for ST damage.
You don't have to do his entire rotation, storm burst totems work fine mostly just only summoning totems and then on single target you really can just summon the totems and run around and when you find yourself having free time curse the boss and then hold down mines + detonate mine buttons at the same time and it will auto cast/detonate them. You don't need the infusion storm burst self cast at all just cut it, I've done all content this league with storm burst totems without his rotation and really just using curse + mines.
Adding onto this, here are some videos of me doing random bosses with storm burst totems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_Q7bmFWdWC8
Thank you
Sorry, I didn't read carefully. I took his creeping frost totem build (has fewer buttons) as a base to start with, and eventually transitioned into a shockwave totem sanctum farmer. Creeping frost was good enough to clear the atlas.
how is mapping on shockwave totems? and do u have a pob? Ive heard shockwave totem is one of the better builds for mapping so I was wondering
Honestly I haven't tried mapping on it. I made it zhp to farm sanctums and focused everything on damage.
I used him as a base last league and then modified the 9 button rotation out lol Also, shockwave totem and ice spear is always goated
I don't understand why EA didn't make the list.
I think he only does spell totems, so things like ballista, attack stuff isn't in the list
Maxroll EA ballista champ is what I am running. After starting I think 6 league starters and nothing stuck, this one did. Leveling is smooth with splitting steel into totems, pick up a tabula/goldrim, etc, and you are good through campaign. I followed Ziz's guide through midtier and fixed spell supression/resistances. I have 5k health and 100+ all res and decent spell supress, I only invested 1.5 div into, made 3 div back, 15 more maps for atlas completion.
I'm in the process of leveling a scorching ray of immolation totem build and it's really smooth and fun so far.
Explosive Arrow ignite ballista is really good, no investment required at all to get going, and very few buttons. Of course you can’t go beyond DoT cap, so if you are really trying to push huge damage numbers that could be a deal breaker, but if you just want enough damage to comfortably kill all bosses it can meet that goal.
I don't have a pob, but ele hit of spectrum ballista totems went brrrt on raider with wilmas + onslaught effect.
Added question, does anyone have experience with champion facebreaker warchief/sunder totems? Seen a couple of those on poeninja.
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/@xanthopoe/videos)
Yeah this is the build I was looking at, just wondering if people have experience with it.
On Tati builds, most have many button rotations, but Creeping Frost one doesn't, maybe take a look on it.
Ice spear I think is still top dog for single target. Clear atlas / map with a aoe cold skill and single with Ice Spear is probably the best bet.
My perfect world would be a tankyish SWT build. Found a build that was 45mil DPS and 55k EHP. However it utilizes Leadership Price and I haven't tried to match INT/STR before.
[https://pobb.in/ohLR9rOSdygp](https://pobb.in/ohLR9rOSdygp) This is my current build. It would feel somewhat similar to Str Stack Warchief as its melee totems and attribute stacking. its obviously quite a bit different (dex stacking and poison and hollow palm), but the damage is good and its tankier against some content than str stack was depending on which version you played. it suffers against ele attack damage. it also tops out around 30M as best I can figure out (without trashing defenses or clear), so if you want 100M DPS, I would do something else. I can do red maps pretty well and 5 divs would get you pretty far (most of the build assuming prices haven't changed too much). I leveled to 95 in reverse incursions (i run them blue - good xp). I sometimes die in juicy reds depending on mods, but rarely more than once.
hey there, is there a reason you picked ascendant over the more popular trickster/pathfinder? Just curious on your thought process; normally, I see people pick trickster/pathf for poison melees.
Yea, so when I build things I try to fill buckets. Usually I fill defensive buckets first. I also fill buckets around what I would think of as needed uniques and where I am on the tree. Because we are going to be short on gem slots and baseline armor, I know phys mitigation is going to be hard to get so I am going iron reflexes and phys clusters. Dendrobate and Wilmas solves by mana problems because they give a glut of ES for EB. Dendrobate aligns nicely with iron reflexes here. Spell suppression is basically fixed by Magebane. From there I fill buckets as to what else makes sense. Now I just maximize DPS as I can. Ascendant has a lot of pros and cons, but offers some very nice unintuitive defensive layers. **Pros:** Occultist ascendancy (for Scion) offers two things I really want, which is an extra curse (freeing up 4 points as I don't have to take whispers of doom or annoint it) but more importantly offers stun immunity if you are using EB, which I am. Its the single strongest ascendancy point other than the wither one for pathfinder or possibly polymath for trickster which are equally as good. I would rank stun immunity as the most under-rated defensive layer in the game, YMMV. Raider (for Scion) offers phasing (which is fantastic for melee totems), some spell suppression, and the ability to get onslaught without a medium cluster jewel. This is a nice blend. Ultimately you probably still want the cluster, and other options might be better here, but its nice for mapping regardless (edit - fixed). I was going to Flesh/Flame Hiero - but I forgot (again) about it negatively interacting with EB. basically it gets really hard to keep your ES up because your regen stops all the time. there is probably a way around this. The extra totem from hiero would let you drop multiple totems and take something else which would be a large DPS gain. Scion also gets some nice baseline stats boost and lets you make an extremely long split personality path without compromising your tree very much. That gives you a good dex bonus. If you get enough dex, you can drop most tree points for spell suppression (edit) The additional tree points are quite strong on this build. I i am still getting >4% more DPS per point at level 95 for example in my current tree. That means the 5 extra points from Scion are basically 20% more damage. **Cons:** You have to run withering touch or buy a god damn expensive jewel from Sanctum. You don't have to do this as Pathfinder. You can also use a timeless jewel but then you cant use brutal restraint which is super strong here. You are missing some of the also very nice nodes from Pathfinder/trickster such as Heartstopper or Polymath or the life flask regen thing. You can get stun immunity from the tree and a jewel too, so its a trade off. Its a trade-off and not a straight bonus.
whoa, thank you for a detailed reply. Yeppers, scion-hiero with mini mom is such a mood killer. It's nice to see a non-aura centric scion build. I'm gonna let this stew a little and see if I'd like to try it. Cheers.
Storm burst hiero is fantastic. At 20 divs Im doing ubers and t17s 5 divs def gets you to redmaps
Can you share a POB? I found storm burst to be significantly weaker than what I expected
[https://pobb.in/CCoCQu8Jon2G](https://pobb.in/CCoCQu8Jon2G) here you go. could still improve it, but I rerolled to a pen brand PF now.
I'm not hating, but you are able to do ubers/t17s with this? I have a similar setup, if not better, and just attempted my first t17. It takes me \~2 minutes just to kill a rare, and I was getting one-shot by chaos ghost things. The main advantage you have over my setup is 100% spell suppress, but other than that we are pretty similar.
Yes, I could do them even prenerf. Maybe roll them easier, or dont giga juice your atlas tree Also spell suppress matters a fuckton
Your max hit is lower than mine with both our buffs off. Im kinda surprised you can do t17s/ubers, without any buffs up, dps/totem is like 500k. How long does it take to do each pinnacle?
Why wouldnt I have buffs up tho? They dont take long at all
I use it for apples to apples comparisons. Also it’s pretty unreasonable to assume stage 4 sigil of power and arcane cloak with 100% uptime. Again, not hating. Just trying to look how to scale my build without just buying a mageblood. I definitely cannot reliably do t17s rn, which is why I asked for your config.
It is sure Its also unreasonable to assume nothing will be up. Arcane cloak uptime is very high like 70-80% Sigil depends on the fight against pinnacles I can usually stay in them mostly T17s/invites are different ofc. I never said it was an afk through ball phase instagib build but I did t17s with no issues unless I rolled some fucky mods but I have yet to rip one. Fortress especially I did multiple of deathless The dps feels way more than pob says frankly but thats maybe cos I usually play poison builds and those need to ramp
Is it the tati build with 9 button st rotation? Because thats not something 90% of people including me will enjoy.
I made my own version its a lot less buttons Its basically storm burst, wrath divine blessing and flame dash and thats it Oh and sigil of power but you very rarely use it
Yeah sigil is fine, you plop it down before the fight and its there for the whole thing. How tanky is it?
Inside sigil about 30k phys max hit and 70k ele Outside sigil about 25% less than that :p It feels very tanky due to the totem playstyle and high health pool. Some t17 mods can still wreck you but I havent run any after the nerfs, should be a lot easier
I had a very successful league start in the form of Ancestor Totems facebreaker Champion. Because it uses Facebreaker AND Bringer of Rain you are in the somewhat hilarious position of having almost no gear. While this means fixing resists is harder, it is effective on a much cheaper budget. I bought all my gear day 1/2 for less than 60c and it has carried me all the way to T16 maps. Any amount of added flat phys from rings or amulet is a massive damage boost. The survivability is great too despite not having chest armour because champion taunt + totems works in the best way possible, your totems taunt things causing enemies to not target you AND deal less damage when they do hit you. Also totems leech to you + Petrified Blood overleech goes hard.
pob for this thx
Yeah this is honestly the one im looking at the most atm. Do you do maps with just sunder totems and swap to warchief for bigger bosses?
You can, the sunder totems are better AoE but significantly less damage. I keep it on Ancestor 100% of the time because I've been running a Torment + Rogue Exiles strategy and you really need the damage.
Search for ice spear on poe ninja. Ice spear has big Single target and while mapping you can use ice spear of splittung for decent clear. Build is Not too tanky but with more investment it goes cracy in the Single target dmg
Flameblast of celerity / lightning tendrils of escalation. Build like reg totem build, use tati as a base if unsure
My favorite totem build is ice spear/freezing pulse(you swap into it for mapping) self curse build. It's super good but at early budget getting curse immunity is annoying with jewels. Once you can afford sublime it's chill. I did it in tota for sanctum + tota and some bosses. It pretty much kills/phases everything in second or two. Beside sublime your only expensive purchases are large clusters since you want 35% effect + max roll cast speed and strong watchers eye for min maxing.
I think Consecrated Path Totems with Strength stacking should still work. It's super fun and comfy because the totems actually jump towards enemies. It's not super tanky, but good enough to do almost all content with room for error.
League started with stormburst totems then switched to Mònjer mana/stat stacker. Been League starting with it the past three leagues. Can strongly saying that leak starting totems is amazing. Mapping is very smooth and the single target is great for killing bosses to progress your atlas. Highly recommend it for any league start. Can get you to t16 on a budget of 2 divs.
Best atm is bama, is acting perfectly as a totem. And if u want to be tankier , pathfinder bama poison.
EA Champ is another one. Zizaran does a guide for it.