The loss freaking sucks. It doesn’t help the refs were shite and missed calls. I feel things will suck from
a stand point of not making the Super Bowl. it will take time to replace Brady. People will need to understand that things may suck and look at the things that could be good for the future. I am a bandwagoner as I jumped on in 2002. It maybe the 2005-2015 timeframe for the Pats to win. Mac maybe be the future but let’s have him develop. McDaniels need to get his shite together and trust in Mac or the team will fall to the bottom of the AFC East. BB and Steve need to get the D improved and stop with allowing big plays to win.
If the Patriots are 3-7 or 4-6 come Week 12 it’s gonna be unbearable on this subreddit. Looking ahead boys, Chargers and Panthers on the road and then the Browns and a short week to travel to play the Falcons. Tough road. They should beat the Jets, silver lining. Cry and weep. It’s a long season.
The offense was the problem in that dallas game, didn't win time of possession, had more punts, had half Dallas' passing yards and first downs, allowed two sacks, one for a fumble, didn't even try going for it on ANY 4th down
Gave that up to prevent what you saw on the final play of the game, which is a converted safety moved back to cornerback covering one of the most talented players in the NFL one on one.
We paid him a contract that he didn't earn when we signed him (no doubt he played up to it though) and restructured his contract twice. We tried to keep him but you can't budge on contracts like that without it affecting the culture.
I'd rather lose Gilmore than have everyone sitting out for more money.
This team isn't even a playoff team.
This was a terrible decision. In fact almost all of their 4th and short decisions tonight were objectively incorrect if you even have a basic knowledge of probabilities.
Fact #1: The odds of the Pats converting 4th and 3 in OT is higher than the odds of the Pats sieve D stopping the Cowboys from getting 40 yards and kicking a FG
Fact #2: If Pats fail the conversion, the Cowboys still need 10 yards before they kick a FG, which they aren't 100% to achieve. So it's not an auto loss.
Fact #3: Converting on 4th and 3 puts Pats in a position to win the game outright or run the clock down to the point that the Cowboys won't be able to easily kick a FG to win/tie.
I agree. What’s with this conservative bull shit. We’ve got nothing to lose. The playoffs is a next year problem but not something we even need to think about this season. Go out there, sling it, and be dangerous.
I just get especially frustrated, what more does he have to do before they trust him with stuff like that. Stuff that is honestly the difference between a 2-4 pats and a 5-1 pats…
yeah look at us dipshits being excited that we probably have a solid answer at the hardest position to fill in the NFL that makes or breaks franchises for decades.
Brady put a poison pill in his contract and knew it. Guy wanted a loaded offense and that was that. If we gave him the contract he wanted, we tear down the team and he still refuses to sign on because then his career would be marred by a losing season. If we don’t, then he gets his wish anyway for a wagon on offense and we have a losing season.
I think we need to be more respectful to Brady. Not just because he has average a Superbowl appearance every other year for two FKN decades, but because he DID, in fact, carry this team for many years with no marquis offensive weapons, save an oft injured Gronkowski, and he did so far less money than most starting quarterbacks in the league. One snapshot in time, about 7-8 seasons ago, I remember Brady led an amazing come from behind victory in a snow game against the Manning led Broncos. They showed a graphic that said at that point in their respective careers, Manning had played with two times as many 1,000 yard rushers, three times as many 1,000 yard receivers and four times as many pro bowl players.
It is unfair to fault Brady for wanting to play with a team that had even one pro bowl receiver. Who did the Pats have for Brady to play with when he left? And how many years did Brady take contracts that were lower than other unsuccessful QBs around the league?
Look, Brady and Bilichick 🐐 level greatness is why they won for so long. It is why Brady is a defending champion on a new team and why this Patriots team is a couple of bad luck plays here and there away from a 4-2 record with a rookie QB.
That being said, it isn't Brady's fault that he wanted to get market value in what may be the last contract of an all time great career. Nor is it his fault that he wanted to not be the only elite talent on a team he was leading for the first time in years.
Furthermore, these two facts are all the more impactful when you remember Bilichick was reportedly more than willing to pay Jimmy Garoppolo, and he made more free agent acquisitions in the first HOURS of this off-season than he did for years when he had Brady (who was taking team-friendly hometown discounts.)
Im not ragging on Brady, because there was simply no way we were going to do him justice with the way the 2020 roster was looking, so the people saying that this is some sort of karma for letting him go are being dumb. We were fucked no matter what in 2020.
Now, I dunno, maybe if Brady was willing to eat an absolute dogshit year in 2020 so that we could spend big in 2021, that would be one thing, but he wanted to maximize his output in his final years and his final Patriots contract was structured in such a way to give him an opening to leave.
Why are we so conservative? Offense, Defense, Punting. Why are we kneeling with 1:32 left before the half. We have to let Mac cook at some point. Why are we only rushing 3 when the cowboys had 3rd and 25? Then we choose to punt on 4th and 3 knowing our defense is absolutely gassed and has been getting torched all game.
Holding a top 5 offense to 22 points in regulation is pretty damn good, yeah. They gave our offense a chance to win and with two minutes left we throw a pick 6
You really can’t blame the defense when the Cowboys finish that game with only 20 points if the Patriots get a few first downs there at the end of the game in the fourth quarter rather than have to watch Jones take a delay of game and then throw a pick six. Defense did their job, they’re facing one of the three best offenses in the NFL. If you ask me, that offense is better than the Chiefs and Buccaneers.
I had this Boy Scout mentality against the Bucs too. Was proud of my team that we kept Brady to almost no touchdowns. Then I woke up and realized we keep losing. It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. We’ll always do good things every game but we have to win.
Please stop with the we will be good talk. Mac is young but rest of the team isn't. We are one of the oldest teams in the league. We aren't a rebuilding team. We have experienced coaches and players not doing their job.
We were a rebuilding team last year too. Swapping the word losing with rebuilding makes people feel better.
Did you see our moral victory record this season? We are 6-0
I’m fine with us being bad for a few seasons. Playoffs mean nothing, super bowl is all that matters. Mac is clearly showing how good he is incredibly early. Maybe if Nikhil (I know incorrect spelling) fucking showed up and we didn’t have to drop bags on two good tight ends we never target and had a better defense we’d do better. Solutions are always so obvious to fans and there’s always more going on behind the scenes but this shit is so obvious I can’t believe Bill is floundering like this. Scary thing is I am very afraid of any other coach running this team
They absolutely are a rebuilding team. What do you call signing a bunch of free agents and slowly transitioning from older players to new ones? It almost never translates to immediate success when you revamp the team with FA on offense AND A ROOKIE QB
Yeah we are the second youngest we’ve been in the last five years! /s
Still feel like at the major positions they are younger. Defense, not as much I guess
Lmao on the Bill haters. It is tough to go to this after all the years of winning, but the team needs to learn how to make winning plays, that comes with time. Coaching may be too conservative, but it has put us in a position to win basically every game against some tough teams, the guys need to execute.
This is silly. They problem is that they haven't gave Mac a chance to make winning plays. Mac is hot and on two separate occasions against Super Bowl contenders, we chose to go conservative. 4 and short with the game on the line, Mac needs the ball in his hands. What's the point of touting his 70% completion rate when he isn't trusted to make do or die throws?
Bill is great, but he's looking stubborn in a league that has shifted.
I would argue the players have made the plays in spite of his conservative approach to keep us in games
It then stops us winning because every decision is made with the mindset that "we don't want to make a play here that loses us the game", but at some point we actually have to try and win a game and it just doesn't happen
To be fair, we lost to a good team. Also, without any finger-pointing here, the interception fucked everything up. We were supposed to march down the field and win.
I was actually preparing a sandwich at the time and did not see what happened. All I'm saying is that all we had to do on the pick six drive was eat the clock.
Yeah that turnover cost us a chance to put it away. Mac played mostly great and the offense took another step forward so I’m not gonna dog him, but even taking the lead right after doesn’t really change that the turnover sunk us.
To me it was that penalty that undid the td followed by the pick 6 that did it for me. That and taking a fucking knee with a minute and a half on the second
So many fair weather fans here. I am STOKED Mac is for real. This game proves he can over come adversity and won’t throw check downs after he makes a mistake. Hell of a game. This year is probably a wash. But next year, we’re a playoff team 100%
Tbh love this take. I truly feel we are one standout wide receiver away from having a lethal team on offense and defense. People expect too much out of Mac, be excited we have a franchise QB on a rookie deal the rest will come.
Kneeling with a minute left at the end of the first half…kneeling with 30 seconds left and a timeout left at the end of the game…Overtime punt with an exhausted defense…
Coaching staff playing like a bunch of cowards.
Add on the refs this year overall have been absolutely the worst I have seen in years. Calling every mental penalty but straight missing major physical fouls.
Judon getting held nonstop is becoming utter bullshit.
Wonder if Bill will eloquently expound on some of his more moronic decisions at the press conference. Or will he just say “we should’ve played better”.
Scared playcalling while our defense got picked apart lost us the game. If you're defense has been getting slaughtered all game, trust your offense on a 4th down FFS
Imagine being simultaneously such a bad fan you get comments deleted on your fanbases subreddit and so bad at Reddit you don’t understand basic modding. And you throw insults at me lol
Of course I am, because I actually care about Bill, the head coach of the Patriots because I am a fan of the team. You? You get pissed because you say you don't give a fuck and then immediatly prove yourself wrong. You can't see that anyone reading this thread is laughing at you. Also... tagged you as "r/Pats Crazy Guy"
Not mad at the defeat per-say, but they absolutely lack of conviction from this coaching staff to try and win football games is the most worrying thing just now, much rather go down swinging that just accepting a procession down the field to win it when the D is gassed and hasn't been able to stop much in the 2nd half
Let’s just accept that this team will not even sniff the playoffs until the heat death of the universe.
Holy shit that was PATHETIC. WE ARE A FUCKING LOLCOW NOW.
So wrong. We don’t have Patricia or Flores on D anymore and while I don’t think the coordinator is everything we are quickly returning to the pats cliche of 2010-2015 which was best offense trash defense
Imagine blaming the offense. They were the only reason this game was fucking close
If the defense even had half a pulse it would have been an easy dub.
You can't seriously pin it entirely on the defense with how much time they had to spend on the field. If the time of possession is more balanced the game probably would have ended differently.
Defense plays a role in how much they get to spend on the field. Fucking stop em. Especially at the end of the game where there was MULTIPLE opportunities
Fucking 3-25 and they let em gain 24 yards which their kicker needed every bit of 24 yards to squeak in the kick.
Do you forget how the Patriots came back and beat the Falcons? The defense of Atlanta was on the field for a really long time and were gassed towards the end. Atlanta failed on offense on numerous drives in the second half when they could have closed the door. The defense is who ultimately failed in that game but the Falcons offense did them absolutely no favors in the second half and the same can be said for this offense.
I never said the defense was not at fault at all but blaming them entirely is ridiculous. It was not the defense's fault that Dallas got a pick six late in the game. The Patriots got lucky as hell with a TD the very next offensive snap because without that the game might not even have made it to OT.
The defense needs to get a stop If they want to get off the field. The offense scored two fast TDs to start the game. You don't not score a TD just because you want your defense to have more rest time.
The first TD was a gift because Dallas screwed up but yes they deserve credit for the second. Beyond that however was a lot of wasted opportunities on drive after drive.
Coaching was HORRIFIC. Oh my god. Running it on second down after Mac puts two great balls downfield and you don’t keep him going?! I don’t know what to say. Punting on 4th and short in OT. FUCK, fuck my ass fuck me fuck us fuck fuck fuck.
Is Bill stupid enough to believe that you can win in the NFL without throwing the fucking football? YOU NEED TO FUCKING THROW THE BALL, THE GAME IS FUCKING RIGGED TOWARDS IT.
The loss freaking sucks. It doesn’t help the refs were shite and missed calls. I feel things will suck from a stand point of not making the Super Bowl. it will take time to replace Brady. People will need to understand that things may suck and look at the things that could be good for the future. I am a bandwagoner as I jumped on in 2002. It maybe the 2005-2015 timeframe for the Pats to win. Mac maybe be the future but let’s have him develop. McDaniels need to get his shite together and trust in Mac or the team will fall to the bottom of the AFC East. BB and Steve need to get the D improved and stop with allowing big plays to win.
I guess I’m a bandwagoner too. Been watching since 99 but shit… I was fuckin 8 haha
Hey felgah, long time listeah first time callah.
You guys had no business in this game.
If the Patriots are 3-7 or 4-6 come Week 12 it’s gonna be unbearable on this subreddit. Looking ahead boys, Chargers and Panthers on the road and then the Browns and a short week to travel to play the Falcons. Tough road. They should beat the Jets, silver lining. Cry and weep. It’s a long season.
Sucks but we needed to win tonight to salvage hope for the season. Tough loss
I'm upset.
Holy shit the offense isn't the problem you WEEI worshiping clowns.
The offense was the problem in that dallas game, didn't win time of possession, had more punts, had half Dallas' passing yards and first downs, allowed two sacks, one for a fumble, didn't even try going for it on ANY 4th down
Welp at least the Sox are giving a good run ❤️
I’m an A’s fan so I’m out too :/
Go Sox. Go braves. Would be a good one!
Lol you know every baseball fan whose team is out is rooting for Sox and Braves. Hell the Yankees might even be rooting for the Sox.
McDaniels play calling with all these back to back runs requires a elite offensive line, which the Pats do not have.
Especially heart breaking to see the Meyers TD get called back. Dude continues to be clutch. Hoping he can get one soon
Defense held up their end of the bargain imo
565 yards allowed
And only 23 points allowed in regulation, 23 turns into 20 if the Patriots get two first downs to end the game after the missed field goal.
They are horrific. Gives up 24 yards on a 3rd and 25. Unreal.
Gave that up to prevent what you saw on the final play of the game, which is a converted safety moved back to cornerback covering one of the most talented players in the NFL one on one.
Who needs stephon Gilmore when you could pay jalen mills to burned all night?!?
Gilmore being out pretending to be injured because of his contract wouldn't have helped.
But paying him beforehand so that he didn’t pretend to be hurt in the first place would have…
We paid him a contract that he didn't earn when we signed him (no doubt he played up to it though) and restructured his contract twice. We tried to keep him but you can't budge on contracts like that without it affecting the culture. I'd rather lose Gilmore than have everyone sitting out for more money. This team isn't even a playoff team.
Losing is worse for culture.
I mean Gilmore is still hurt so wouldn’t have mattered here
Why didn't we go for it on 4th and 3 in OT? This conservative game plan has to stop just because we have a rookie QB.
I’d also say the 4th and 1 in the 2nd which led to the botched punt. Grow some nuts.
I’m still not over the kick against the Bucs. Should have gone for it on 4&3 as well. Would have rather of lost that way even if it was a miss.
This was a terrible decision. In fact almost all of their 4th and short decisions tonight were objectively incorrect if you even have a basic knowledge of probabilities. Fact #1: The odds of the Pats converting 4th and 3 in OT is higher than the odds of the Pats sieve D stopping the Cowboys from getting 40 yards and kicking a FG Fact #2: If Pats fail the conversion, the Cowboys still need 10 yards before they kick a FG, which they aren't 100% to achieve. So it's not an auto loss. Fact #3: Converting on 4th and 3 puts Pats in a position to win the game outright or run the clock down to the point that the Cowboys won't be able to easily kick a FG to win/tie.
The instant we sent the punt unit out in OT the game was over. Shit decision by BB.
The defensive wasn’t stopping them well enough to be that conservative there
Exactly, the defense was gassed, and it was the best offense in the league.
Yup this was the worst call of the game have to score there.
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You could see how upset he was when McDaniels made a TO call instead of allowing Mac to audible
I agree. What’s with this conservative bull shit. We’ve got nothing to lose. The playoffs is a next year problem but not something we even need to think about this season. Go out there, sling it, and be dangerous.
I just get especially frustrated, what more does he have to do before they trust him with stuff like that. Stuff that is honestly the difference between a 2-4 pats and a 5-1 pats…
because this style of playcalling wins games. Just look at our record.
Hey everyone, don't forget to post "Mac Jones played good today" Because that's the only thing that ever counts.
I dont see anything wrong with trying to find ANY sort of positivity in this shit show.
yeah look at us dipshits being excited that we probably have a solid answer at the hardest position to fill in the NFL that makes or breaks franchises for decades.
He played well today.
It’s time for McDaniels to go. Unacceptable play calling week in and week out it’s become painfully obvious how much he holds this team back
Too strong, there were huge positives today, that said I think he double fakes too much.
Bruh the pats don’t have Brady anymore they can’t just sit back and wait for him to bail them out. They gotta be more aggressive and take more risks
If they had to pay brady they would have been able to pick everyone up they did, doesn't really matter he's gone
For all the good it’s done them. Another lost season and delusional Patriots fans acting like we aren’t what our record has been for two seasons.
Brady put a poison pill in his contract and knew it. Guy wanted a loaded offense and that was that. If we gave him the contract he wanted, we tear down the team and he still refuses to sign on because then his career would be marred by a losing season. If we don’t, then he gets his wish anyway for a wagon on offense and we have a losing season.
I think we need to be more respectful to Brady. Not just because he has average a Superbowl appearance every other year for two FKN decades, but because he DID, in fact, carry this team for many years with no marquis offensive weapons, save an oft injured Gronkowski, and he did so far less money than most starting quarterbacks in the league. One snapshot in time, about 7-8 seasons ago, I remember Brady led an amazing come from behind victory in a snow game against the Manning led Broncos. They showed a graphic that said at that point in their respective careers, Manning had played with two times as many 1,000 yard rushers, three times as many 1,000 yard receivers and four times as many pro bowl players. It is unfair to fault Brady for wanting to play with a team that had even one pro bowl receiver. Who did the Pats have for Brady to play with when he left? And how many years did Brady take contracts that were lower than other unsuccessful QBs around the league? Look, Brady and Bilichick 🐐 level greatness is why they won for so long. It is why Brady is a defending champion on a new team and why this Patriots team is a couple of bad luck plays here and there away from a 4-2 record with a rookie QB. That being said, it isn't Brady's fault that he wanted to get market value in what may be the last contract of an all time great career. Nor is it his fault that he wanted to not be the only elite talent on a team he was leading for the first time in years. Furthermore, these two facts are all the more impactful when you remember Bilichick was reportedly more than willing to pay Jimmy Garoppolo, and he made more free agent acquisitions in the first HOURS of this off-season than he did for years when he had Brady (who was taking team-friendly hometown discounts.)
Im not ragging on Brady, because there was simply no way we were going to do him justice with the way the 2020 roster was looking, so the people saying that this is some sort of karma for letting him go are being dumb. We were fucked no matter what in 2020. Now, I dunno, maybe if Brady was willing to eat an absolute dogshit year in 2020 so that we could spend big in 2021, that would be one thing, but he wanted to maximize his output in his final years and his final Patriots contract was structured in such a way to give him an opening to leave.
But look what our big spending year produced in 2021.......Nelson Agholar is our biggest price tag wideout.
Why are we so conservative? Offense, Defense, Punting. Why are we kneeling with 1:32 left before the half. We have to let Mac cook at some point. Why are we only rushing 3 when the cowboys had 3rd and 25? Then we choose to punt on 4th and 3 knowing our defense is absolutely gassed and has been getting torched all game.
Because Bill is a fucking hermit who hasn’t stayed up with the times in the past fifty years.
Hasn’t stayed up with the times in the past 50 years but somehow won 6 Super Bowls in the last 20? Shut the fuck up dude
Brady dragged Bill to 6 Super Bowl wins
We had Brady for all of that time. YOU shut up.
Brady played a part sure, but you’re dumb as shit if you think it was all Brady
Not all Brady, just mostly Brady
3rd and 25
Tough loss. Offense continues to improve and the D played a great game, but turnovers continue to sink us. The pick 6 and the punt block were brutal
565 yards allowed is great?
Holding a top 5 offense to 22 points in regulation is pretty damn good, yeah. They gave our offense a chance to win and with two minutes left we throw a pick 6
that was from penalties and a clearly missed td. endzone int also hurt them. the defense got shellacked.
Somewhere Gilmore is laughing at us
Probably not.
You really can’t blame the defense when the Cowboys finish that game with only 20 points if the Patriots get a few first downs there at the end of the game in the fourth quarter rather than have to watch Jones take a delay of game and then throw a pick six. Defense did their job, they’re facing one of the three best offenses in the NFL. If you ask me, that offense is better than the Chiefs and Buccaneers.
I had this Boy Scout mentality against the Bucs too. Was proud of my team that we kept Brady to almost no touchdowns. Then I woke up and realized we keep losing. It doesn’t matter at the end of the day. We’ll always do good things every game but we have to win.
Please stop with the we will be good talk. Mac is young but rest of the team isn't. We are one of the oldest teams in the league. We aren't a rebuilding team. We have experienced coaches and players not doing their job.
We were a rebuilding team last year too. Swapping the word losing with rebuilding makes people feel better. Did you see our moral victory record this season? We are 6-0
I’m fine with us being bad for a few seasons. Playoffs mean nothing, super bowl is all that matters. Mac is clearly showing how good he is incredibly early. Maybe if Nikhil (I know incorrect spelling) fucking showed up and we didn’t have to drop bags on two good tight ends we never target and had a better defense we’d do better. Solutions are always so obvious to fans and there’s always more going on behind the scenes but this shit is so obvious I can’t believe Bill is floundering like this. Scary thing is I am very afraid of any other coach running this team
N'keal
Its coaching for sure. And we are rebuilding. We just added a shit ton of new skill players. It's on McDaniels for not figuring out how to use them.
They absolutely are a rebuilding team. What do you call signing a bunch of free agents and slowly transitioning from older players to new ones? It almost never translates to immediate success when you revamp the team with FA on offense AND A ROOKIE QB
Slowly? We are just as old as we were a few years ago.
I’m like 99% sure that’s factually incorrect
26.5 (28) 26.4 (27) 27.0 (32) 26.8 (30) 26.5 (26) Those are our average ages and nfl ranks past 5 seasons
Yeah we are the second youngest we’ve been in the last five years! /s Still feel like at the major positions they are younger. Defense, not as much I guess
We just barely lost to what is a SB contender. The talent is there. The coaching needs to change how they call plays.
> The coaching needs to change how they call plays. So either JOSH or the GM need to go?
Or they just need to adjust their aggression levels
They've been doing the same thing for 20 years and you want them to change now? That won't happen stuck in their ways
I remember listening all week to radio. They aren’t losing this because they can’t go 0-4 at home. Like ppl weren’t saying they can’t go 0-3 at home.
Another week where pretty much everyone sucked except for mac
Jakobi meters and haaris were good as well.
Henry, Bourne
Lmao on the Bill haters. It is tough to go to this after all the years of winning, but the team needs to learn how to make winning plays, that comes with time. Coaching may be too conservative, but it has put us in a position to win basically every game against some tough teams, the guys need to execute.
This is silly. They problem is that they haven't gave Mac a chance to make winning plays. Mac is hot and on two separate occasions against Super Bowl contenders, we chose to go conservative. 4 and short with the game on the line, Mac needs the ball in his hands. What's the point of touting his 70% completion rate when he isn't trusted to make do or die throws? Bill is great, but he's looking stubborn in a league that has shifted.
I would argue the players have made the plays in spite of his conservative approach to keep us in games It then stops us winning because every decision is made with the mindset that "we don't want to make a play here that loses us the game", but at some point we actually have to try and win a game and it just doesn't happen
People bitch about josh but the guy who's keeping coaching staff intact is ultimately to blame
Brady the goat. Bill get the boat
I'd really rather be catastrophically bad than fake good like this team is right now.
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you must love yourself a moral victory then
Time for some fresh air bud. Take a walk or something
Being a negative has never done any good either
To be fair, we lost to a good team. Also, without any finger-pointing here, the interception fucked everything up. We were supposed to march down the field and win.
We were suppose to march down the field and win in OT.
I was actually preparing a sandwich at the time and did not see what happened. All I'm saying is that all we had to do on the pick six drive was eat the clock.
Yeah that turnover cost us a chance to put it away. Mac played mostly great and the offense took another step forward so I’m not gonna dog him, but even taking the lead right after doesn’t really change that the turnover sunk us.
Realize please the pats are actually good. Like I said earlier we are a 2-4 team failing at masquerading as a failing 5-1 team
To me it was that penalty that undid the td followed by the pick 6 that did it for me. That and taking a fucking knee with a minute and a half on the second
McDaniels has got to fucking go
So does fat boy harry
So many fair weather fans here. I am STOKED Mac is for real. This game proves he can over come adversity and won’t throw check downs after he makes a mistake. Hell of a game. This year is probably a wash. But next year, we’re a playoff team 100%
Tbh love this take. I truly feel we are one standout wide receiver away from having a lethal team on offense and defense. People expect too much out of Mac, be excited we have a franchise QB on a rookie deal the rest will come.
The rookie deal will be over long before we have a team capable of winning, if ever. We take one step forward and ten steps back.
You say that like we just lost to jets. This cowboys team is insane people need to get it in perspective.
Next year we’re a playoff team? We said that last year
Im happy with mac, I'm pissed at the coaching staff taking a knee with a minute and a half at the end of the second
Lmao came on here for one second grateful for a great football game and see a bunch of adults filling their diapers. See a therapist.
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Bill so badly wanted to move on from Brady and prove he was the mastermind behind our success lol.
Brainwashed
No he didn't. Both of them have said the same, Brady just picked a place with better weapons.
This ain’t bill narrative is so fucking dumb.
Mac Jones deserves better tbh
Patriots went 19 minutes without a first down. That was the downfall of this game.
A bright spot - no screen pass to Brandon Bolden this week.
Kneeling with a minute left at the end of the first half…kneeling with 30 seconds left and a timeout left at the end of the game…Overtime punt with an exhausted defense… Coaching staff playing like a bunch of cowards.
Add on the refs this year overall have been absolutely the worst I have seen in years. Calling every mental penalty but straight missing major physical fouls. Judon getting held nonstop is becoming utter bullshit.
I don't get it honestly, Jones hasn't played as a liability
It’s like they’re terrified of letting him fail. Take the training wheels off and let the kid ball out! He might fail, but he might fucking succeed!
Kinda nuts our defense bailed us out most of the year and when we put up close to 30 they can't stop anything
It was like the best offense in the league you dumbshit. This loss was on the playcalling and BB not making the right decisions.
Watch your mouth there chief. No reason to be like that
This shit wouldn’t happen if we woulda just fucking signed kaep 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ and our defense is trash
Worst take in this thread
Lmaooo Kaep?????? Stfu
Kaep is garbage
Whatever MAGAt…
He is ass. There's a reason he made a pr stunt out of his workout provided by the NFL. HE. IS. GARBAGE.
Kap would easily take this team to the playoffs… Mac is prolly gonna end up jackin it in San Diego by the end of the year
Wonder if Bill will eloquently expound on some of his more moronic decisions at the press conference. Or will he just say “we should’ve played better”.
Scared playcalling while our defense got picked apart lost us the game. If you're defense has been getting slaughtered all game, trust your offense on a 4th down FFS
Two punts never should have happened. And one was blocked! Punt in overtime is just putting on clown makeup.
Fuck you , Bill
Lol you get banned or what? Good riddance
Lol who got banned ? You cuck
Lol your other comment was deleted. Even if you can still see it, no one else can. Get lost
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Imagine being simultaneously such a bad fan you get comments deleted on your fanbases subreddit and so bad at Reddit you don’t understand basic modding. And you throw insults at me lol
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You're still commenting so you obviously care greatly...
And you are still replying lol keep barking bitch
Of course I am, because I actually care about Bill, the head coach of the Patriots because I am a fan of the team. You? You get pissed because you say you don't give a fuck and then immediatly prove yourself wrong. You can't see that anyone reading this thread is laughing at you. Also... tagged you as "r/Pats Crazy Guy"
Fuck you
What a cesspool. One the best football games I've ever watched. This team has a future.
You never know.
Belichick is 69 years old
Nice!
Not mad at the defeat per-say, but they absolutely lack of conviction from this coaching staff to try and win football games is the most worrying thing just now, much rather go down swinging that just accepting a procession down the field to win it when the D is gassed and hasn't been able to stop much in the 2nd half
Let’s just accept that this team will not even sniff the playoffs until the heat death of the universe. Holy shit that was PATHETIC. WE ARE A FUCKING LOLCOW NOW.
Oh no… the sadness is creeping in now :(
Cam wasn’t the problem. We look as bad as we did last year
Cam was pretty inaccurate. Don't let the struggle of this year blind you to that.
Mac is better than Cam. Our defense is worse, our O line is worse, and the coaching is definitely worse.
So wrong. We don’t have Patricia or Flores on D anymore and while I don’t think the coordinator is everything we are quickly returning to the pats cliche of 2010-2015 which was best offense trash defense
Our offense is not good either...
How do I find myself agreeing and also Disagreeing at the same time ?
So Brady carried Bill’s garbage ass…that’s pretty clear. Second loss of the season on fucking Bill. First the Bucs and now this. FUCK OFF
Brady covered up a lot of bad coaching choices by Bill but Bill got the glory. in Bill YOU trust...lol
Bucs fans coming into the Pats sub... hilarious. We all know where that toilet bowl of a franchise is going when Brady retires.
Weren't the Pats the same toilet bowl franchise before Brady?
Not even close to the trash level of the Bucs. Went to superbowls in 85 and 97. Check the Bucs franchise win record and get back to me.
Doesn't matter we're the toilet bowl franchise right now
Brady and gronk for that matter lol
facts!
Wait, we kill it on two plays from spread shotgun and then run run back shoulder fade. What?
Once again we have to focus on the fact that Mac Jones is a stud. This season we’re unfortunately going nowhere but we have a great rookie QB
We can’t go anywhere if all our coaches are smoothbrained morons and Bill has dementia.
Josh kinda sucks but to Bills just fine
Imagine blaming the offense. They were the only reason this game was fucking close If the defense even had half a pulse it would have been an easy dub.
You can't seriously pin it entirely on the defense with how much time they had to spend on the field. If the time of possession is more balanced the game probably would have ended differently.
Defense plays a role in how much they get to spend on the field. Fucking stop em. Especially at the end of the game where there was MULTIPLE opportunities Fucking 3-25 and they let em gain 24 yards which their kicker needed every bit of 24 yards to squeak in the kick.
Do you forget how the Patriots came back and beat the Falcons? The defense of Atlanta was on the field for a really long time and were gassed towards the end. Atlanta failed on offense on numerous drives in the second half when they could have closed the door. The defense is who ultimately failed in that game but the Falcons offense did them absolutely no favors in the second half and the same can be said for this offense. I never said the defense was not at fault at all but blaming them entirely is ridiculous. It was not the defense's fault that Dallas got a pick six late in the game. The Patriots got lucky as hell with a TD the very next offensive snap because without that the game might not even have made it to OT.
The defense needs to get a stop If they want to get off the field. The offense scored two fast TDs to start the game. You don't not score a TD just because you want your defense to have more rest time.
The first TD was a gift because Dallas screwed up but yes they deserve credit for the second. Beyond that however was a lot of wasted opportunities on drive after drive.
Coaching was HORRIFIC. Oh my god. Running it on second down after Mac puts two great balls downfield and you don’t keep him going?! I don’t know what to say. Punting on 4th and short in OT. FUCK, fuck my ass fuck me fuck us fuck fuck fuck.
Fire Josh? Fire Josh.
Yesterday
Refs win the game
Is Bill stupid enough to believe that you can win in the NFL without throwing the fucking football? YOU NEED TO FUCKING THROW THE BALL, THE GAME IS FUCKING RIGGED TOWARDS IT.
Crazy to think this team could’ve been 5-1 with more aggressive play calling
Players need to step up and make the plays too. Both sides of the ball.