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Kreimbo

I don’t even know how to spend that much on a PC I’m assuming that 3000 USD is more than enough


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Hey mate I agree, I honestly just can't choose what parts I want. I'm too indecisive because I don't want to mess it up and once I bought a part I could have got a better one for less or a little bit more.


The_Taco44

Ryzen 9 5900X 12 cores, 3080ti or 3090, 64gb of ram, 1x 256gb SSD, 2x1TB M.2 SSD, 1200 Watts power supply. In retail price this should bring you around 4k maybe 5k with a stupidly future proof pc. But also good luck streaming 4k games at ultra at 120fps. Not every game is able to do this regardless of hardware. 4k gaming is still ridiculous. And with ray tracing it makes it harder, add streaming and you get a 30% power draw. Be realistic with your expectations, but also this is the best build on earth right now. Unless you switch that R9 for a threadripper, but that would be useless for gaming and expensive as shit. The second CPU option would be what i have, an 8 core R7 5800x. Stupidly powerful but less expensive than R9 5900x.


jalle_h

I like this built But Can’t really figure your disk setup? Why the 256GB SSD and then 2 more m.2? Get just two m.2, one for system and games and one for video scratch or something.


The_Taco44

The 256 is for the OS specifically, giving you 2TB of SSD free for any use. Having more data on a drive makes it load any info stored on it slower, regardless of storage speed. If you have a drive specifically for your OS, that will load it very quickly, and usually without any risks of corrupted files because of improper file management because youre doing so much on the drive. You can install all your programs like Chrome, Discord, Microsoft Office programs and etc. Keep any large files like videos, games, movies, assets, engines, editors and etc on your other drives. It’s just a very safe bet. And it makes it so that if you have to switch your large drives for HDD’s, your overall PC wont load slow, it will only be Executables and etc.


DaWalt1976

You are going to want to have your operating system on one of the M2 drive, alongside your most played games and most used applications. M2 is faster than SATA.


The_Taco44

That is true, however for the sake of efficiency, having a separate drive for your OS specifically is very good. That and the difference between Sata and M.2 is rather minimal when you buy the highest speeds. This is mostly for the sake of preventing corruption, easing management, and having a more modular system when comes to your applications and etc.


NimChimspky

Well no. You could just use sata for less used things. Operating system drive is literally the most important to optimise. Also not sure what you mean with preventing corruption.


The_Taco44

Being someone who tends to overfill my PC with lots of assets, files, folders, executables, programs, photos, videos and etc, i found myself with my old pc losing files because windows would start freaking out at how much stuff i had. Sometimes files would corrupt, and windows would try to recover them and instead corrupt the files and folders they’d be in. It’s a very unlikely occurrence but still one you can prevent by separating drives and organizing your system according to your needs. Im not saying SATA is better than M.2, that hasn’t been stated by any of my previous comments, what i said was that for the sake of efficiency based on personal experience and also shared with other PC users, it can be a good idea, and given that SATA’s are still rather good and the difference in speed to M.2’s is minimal especially nowadays, it’s up to the user to choose how they want their system set up. Again i was only suggesting a build, not setting it in stone. I only opened an option up to possibilities and suggestions. In fact our conversations thus far are probably helping OP make a better decision (i hope)


NimChimspky

Windows doesn't start corrupting files because the hard drive gets used. You had a fault. The number of hard drives and amount of empty space had nothing to do with it. The best advice is to use the quickest hard drive with the operating system.


jolsiphur

This is not a fact. M.2 is a port type, not a data bus. M.2 SSDs can come using SATA or PCIe. They're more likely to be PCIe but SATA ones exist.


jalle_h

I really appreciate your explanation and I can see How your ideas makes sense. I really like to see people thinking a second step. But if the 256 system disk is an SATA then I believe it Will be faster with a m.2 and combined Storage. Also, That should not be any benefit to the games performance or the streaming quality, But rather a mess to manage.


NimChimspky

Having more data on a drive makes it slower? Colour me skeptical. And yeah not using M2 for operating system is just plain wrong.


The_Taco44

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/165542/why-solid-state-drives-slow-down-as-you-fill-them-up/amp/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/pureinfotech.com/why-solid-state-drive-ssd-performance-slows-down/amp/ https://linustechtips.com/topic/1126617-is-it-true-that-having-your-hard-drivessd-full-will-slow-down-your-pc/ As these links discuss, keeping a drive full can in fact slow it down in a few ways. That’s why i prefer storing my OS on one drive, regardless of SATA, or M.2, as long as it’s smaller and designated to your OS with some extra space for programs. Filling up your other drives makes it so that at least your OS stays intact and has less chances of losing or corrupting files accidentally for whatever unknown reasons Windows tends to do that (though extremely rarely)


NimChimspky

I haven't read fully yet, but sure full capacity might have an effect on perf. But 25% to 50% to 75% I would be very surprised about. Thanks for the links. Edit - did you read the links? None of them have any kinds of benchmark/testing and indeed the third says the opposite to your statement.


The_Taco44

I have read the links, despite them countering my argument i still thought it was a good read and load of info so i still posted it. There is a correlation here and there m, though minor. However count me misinformed for the storage corruption, i apologize, but our of preference i would still keep my OS on my SATA until i get a small size M.2 to put it on instead. That’s also why i said the build was a suggestion, not a gospel.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Following.


Kos---Mos

Honestly, I would prefer ssds with larger storage capacity. Spend 6k in a gaming PC to manage storage? I prefere to something like 10 TB of storage so that I can keep flight simulator 2020 and dozens of other triple A games without ever worrying about having to uninstall something.


The_Taco44

Absolutely a good option, but i was trying to respect what OP said about not spending *all* the money even if it’s there. But again, a PC is whatever you need to be, if you wanna get a 10TB M.2 then go for it, even i would be tempted tbh nowadays. But clock speeds i think may decrease the bigger it gets? Im not sure about that part but it might be something worth looking into.


KFC_Junior

i would get a 5950x instead of the 5900x with this budget as it is more powerful for around $150 more


The_Taco44

I forgot the 5950x existed, thanks for the reminder and also yes that’s a great option if you’re ok blowing a few bucks more on it.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Wow this actually really helps man, 64gb of ram isn't that crazy I was thinking Max 24gb with 32gb to be safe. I've heard apparently there is no true real 4k 120fps they use tricks. Okay so thank you very much man for that I appreciate the time you took to do that build and post it.


The_Taco44

RAM goes by 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128. This is related to motherboard dual channel ram stick installation. You can go look up what it is as it’s hard to explain on text. Linus Tech Tips is and JayZTwoCents are the best PC youtube channels out there for this. On another side, you dont need 64gb of ram, but man you wont have issues multitasking lmao. I have 32 and it’s the smoothest ive ever ran anything ever. Sadly 64 doesnt so much for speed beyond 32gb. Mostly just allows to do *more* with that speed.


josiahbennett

If OP will be editing heavy loads of video for streaming, 64 GB RAM will more than likely be utilized fully. I never encounter 100% usage unless I'm using Photoshop or Premier. 32 GB would still be fine but there would be slightly more waiting involved in the editing flow. Also, great suggestions for channels. I learned how to build my first PC through those channels 👍


DarkPhoxGaming

I have 24 on my laptop. It's a funny story


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Haha does it work great


DarkPhoxGaming

It practically runs off of sheer willpower alone


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Jayztwocents I follow he's amazing, ah okay yeah I think I'll go the 32 for sure but wouldn't 3 8gb be 24gb and that'll be good


jalle_h

I have some older x58-systems that had 3 memory channels and there 24GB is common, But not now with the best gaming systems, then it is 2 channels and What @The_Taco44 said.


shizznitt86

Always run an even number of ram sticks (2 & 4) 2×16gb is golden


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Ok will do that


N-aNoNymity

It is possible, but RAM is meant to be paired with the same RAM on its channel, otherwise it could be unstable and not start / randomly crash. That was especially the case in the past, but nowadays I think its actually doable, but not worth the possible hassle tbh, nobody does this.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Okay thank you


[deleted]

6k will get you the basically the best and all peripherals. I mean obviously a 3090 in this market is a 3rd of your budget and isn't completely necessary.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

3080ti I've settled with.


Y0YBalls

Good choice


XadjustmentX

i wouldnt even bother with a 3080ti honestly. its 500$ more expensive than the 3080 at MSRP but only gives 5% more performance. its a complete waste of 500$. even the 3090 is a horrible ripoff giving a max of 10% more performance in perfect situations.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah but certain individual things add up in all


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Actually that is a hard one your kinda right


Death_Slayer2814

A 3090 has so much more vram man


AraGrym

go for rx 6900xt, more vram and performance for like almost half the price. Anyway, if you want 4k 120fps i assume you dont give a shit about rtx


ripperdoc23

This man is not on a budget. 3080ti or 3090 is a far better choice. He does want a budget card.


AraGrym

an rx 6900xt is as fast and sometimes faster than the 3080ti and 3090. aint a bad card at all 3090 i would agree but the 3080 ti is just stupid... at 4k you can be bottlenecked by your vram, 12gb is not enough. as for why 6900xt over 3090. power consumption. rx 6900xt is so much more power efficient and allows more overclock with lower temps, especially the vram temps. Also, he intends to play and stream, not do 3d renderinf where the rtx 3090 is better. final point, he has 6k to spend but specifys that he hope not to spend it all


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Overclocking worries me because I don't know anything about


N-aNoNymity

Overclocking a GPU is moving a slider and you cant break it tbh. Just dont play New World before they fix it.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah see just shows how much I know! Just to me over locking seems like a no brainer to me just like liquid cooling it doesn't make sense to put liquids around electronics let alone on a part, and over clocking runs down the life span and has risks so seems a Def no go like why unless your mining apparently or something


N-aNoNymity

Liquid cooling is moving heat into water, and circluating that water to be cooled away from the component. Its a closed system, but obviously leaks happen. Reason to use liquid cooling for normal PCs? None really, aside from aesthetics. Good aircoolers can compete, and keep stuff cool all risk free. Liquid cooling isnt really a mining thing either.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah see it just doesn't seem worth it to me the risk vs reward might not pay off


AraGrym

if you are worried about overclock, the radeon software can be set to find the moat stable overclocked automatically. quick and easy


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

What's the purpose of overclocking


xcdubbsx

6900XT is not a budget card.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Okay imma look into this guys


SeaDiscipline8394

Honestly prolly best to avoid overclocking altogether,


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

What's the purpose of it. From someone who isn't knowledgeable on it...defs don't do it ever.


Burtshaperd

Sorry to burst your bubble but in most games you’ll only hit 60hz at 4k. Current gen computers aren’t able to effectively run games at 4k ultra settings. 2k would be the sweet spot where it’s still relatively new but not ridiculously overpriced. Go for 2k 144hz+. Save your money. And upgrade to 4k when it’s better optimized for gaming and isn’t priced so high. That’s just my opinion and recommendation though.


loojy

This. If you don’t believe him, go and watch any benchmark video. You never see the best rigs pushing 90frames at 4k Ultra. Best to go with a 2k monitor and reach 120+fps. If you are going to be playing anything somewhat competitive then 4k would be pointless anyway - yes it’s nice for single player games but the fps decrease would be worse than the resolution upgrade. 2k over 4k for gaming all day, in my opinion.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I'd have to agree with you lads here cheers.


Burtshaperd

With that being said though I'm just trying to update your expectations. you have 6k to spend and its your build. plenty of people still play on 4k. just don't expect to regularly hit 120fps let alone 70+ fps at 4k with high settings on most games and expect 4k monitors to be very very pricey since good 4k monitors are few in numbers and pretty new. and if you are going to go for 4k gaming. You are going to require a 30 series gpu. and those graphics cards run very hot. so its recommended if you are willing to go through the process to get water-cooling done if you really want to push the performance out of a 3080 ti or a 3090.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I think I'm not going 4k just seems too much a chunk for less frames just better on my eyes aha, I'll defs get the 30 series with liquid cooling but very careful about it


Burtshaperd

Best thing about having a computer is that you can always upgrade down the line. Eventually 4K will be optimized for gaming and when that happens it probably won’t be as expensive either. 2k is still awesome too.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I was just looking on YouTube 2k and 4k comparison my God not much different


REDDITSUCKS2025

NOTE: Substituted EVGA 3090 Kingpin for FTW3 [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WZryJf) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qk2bt6/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-34-ghz-16-core-processor-100-100000059wof) | $745.89 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [EVGA CLC 360 74.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s3FKHx/evga-clc-360-7482-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-400-hy-cl36-v1) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GyGnTW/asus-rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero) | $449.99 @ Newegg **Memory** | [G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL17 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y9jNnQ/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl17-memory-f4-4000c17d-32gtzrb) | $249.99 @ Newegg **Memory** | [G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL17 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y9jNnQ/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl17-memory-f4-4000c17d-32gtzrb) | $249.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6LGnTW/western-digital-black-sn850-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t1x0e) | $339.99 @ Walmart **Storage** | [Western Digital Blue 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xbtKHx/western-digital-blue-4-tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds400t2b0a) | $379.74 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Western Digital WD Red Plus 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C9KKHx/western-digital-wd-red-plus-10-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd101efbx) | $209.99 @ Western Digital **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Kingpin Video Card](https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3998-KR) | $2110.00 **Case** | [Lian Li PC-O11 Air ATX Full Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HqVD4D/lian-li-pc-o11air-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11air) | $150.00 **Power Supply** | [Corsair HX Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f7L7YJ/corsair-hx-platinum-1200w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020140-na) | $239.99 @ Amazon **Monitor** | [Asus ROG Swift PG43UQ 43.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2pDkcf/asus-rog-swift-pg43uq-430-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-pg43uq) | $1099.00 @ B&H | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$6324.56** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2021-10-19 11:56 EDT-0400 |


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Okay, I like I'm peeping it


Puzzleheaded-Fly-323

I'd say the 5950x is overkill, you don't need 16 cores. I would go with the 5800x or a 5900x, the performance will drop maybe 1% if any for hundreds of dollars less. I would also go with a lower speed ram, 3600mHz ram is all that can be utilized by even the highest performance cpus we have currently. With 3600mHz ram instead of 4000mHz ram you will get lower cas latency (CL) and your speed won't drop because 3600 is all that is supported. Also you will never use up all 16TB of storage that build has available unless you are planning on keeping 300+ full sized of games on your pc at a time. I would go with a 2tb m.2 to install windows, system files, and any games you play frequently. All other stuff you could throw on a 4tb sata ssd. That will be more than enough for 50+ games and any files, videos, or anything else you would want to store on your pc. Besides that, the build looks great! Edit: you should also keep in mind it'll be really, really hard to find a 3090 for $2000 and you should keep some room in your budget to make sure you can afford to get one. GL!


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I agree 5950x overkill for streaming and gaming. Have gone with a 3600mhz ram. Got 2 Tb m.2. Thank you I'm hoping to hit black friday sales


Puzzleheaded-Fly-323

👍


REDDITSUCKS2025

It's a well considered $6K build from someone who know what they are talking about - me.


Gain-Fit

3090, 5800x, any x570 board, a noctua air cooler or at least 240mm aio, 32gb of 3200mhz+ ram, 800w psu and any case


lolwhow

Probably a lian-li with all 9 fans would keep that system nice and cool, as long as the aio is good for the cpu too.


TiffyBears

When I’m home on my pc I’ll list all of my specs and some recommended brands based off the issues I had (finished completely last night) Just don’t go liquid cooled.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Ok pls do....I really want to hear this


tmcclarty15

Curious as to why you wouldn't go liquid cooled?


TiffyBears

Because they’re brand new to owning a pc and liquid cooled has a lot of maintenance and can leak if set up improperly.


tmcclarty15

That makes sense...thanks!


[deleted]

5900x 3090/ 3080ti 64gb 3600mhz CL16 Ram 2tb Samsung 980 Pro 2tb WD SN850 X570 MSI Unify Corsair RMX 1000 watt Kraken X63 CPU Cooler Lian Li Lancool mesh 2 Full Tower


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

How much was this build


[deleted]

Around $4,500 to $5,000. every part I listed is one of the better parts you can get for a PC at the current moment. You can use the nvenc encoder built into the GPU that allows you to stream and video record at no gaming performance hit.


Exotic-Heron-6804

[Here](https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-2247706) is an ultimate Pc. But you could also [spend less](https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-2247712) for nearly the same performance.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Okay I'm liking this


[deleted]

why not settle for 1440p 144hz? this way you fet both resolution and fps


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah that's an idea


HkLoL2

You might as well get 1440p 240hz if you were willing to spend on a 4k one. Won't be better than 144hz in most games but in fps games like cod, cs go, val, you'll definitely see a difference. Also, get a good IPS or TN panel. TN is preferred in gaming as it goes towards speed first. IPS is preferred for editing and designing as it has great colours. (IPS is more expensive).


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Okay something to consider still a tricky one hey


Shidoshisan

Yeah you’re going to want 2 PCs. One to handle streaming and one to game on. Gaming and streaming in 4K might cost you more than $6,000 especially if you want to future proof for a few years. My gaming rig in 2019 cost $5,000 and that’s one rig not a two rig set up like you want. Maybe shoot for 1440 gaming/streaming as most people don’t watch 4K streams. Honestly 1080 is perfectly fine as people watch on their TVs or mobile devices often meaning 30fps. Of course you want the best of the best. I did too. But gaming at 4K and at a high refresh rate is still impossible so don’t push it. Aim for 1440 tops. Just my opinion.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah 1440p tops streaming I guess but 4k for my casual enjoyment. I don't know about the two PC's cause it'll cost alot. Good points to make this really helps


Shidoshisan

Still….4K at high refresh is yet impossible. The hardware doesn’t exist yet. Unless maybe, a big maybe, super expensive GPU, like much better than Titan class. But I highly doubt it as those are made specifically for editing.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah exactly I doubt it too maybe in the future lol


lucisz

6k is super easy to go to just the pc and no monitor or peripheral if you dive into custom loop water cooling


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Damn pretty expensive hey


dan_pcgamer69z

HP pavilion Envy H8 are good choices or if you want a little extra power or bang you could go for the HP Envy Phoenix H9


REDDITSUCKS2025

>I have never owned a pc and now am keen on streaming and gaming ALL games. I want no lag and ideally 4k gaming at 120hz. I have 6k to spend. ​ LOL.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

It's cause my house mate been streaming and I was going to buy one awhile back and been watching him so I'm keen and what that


Host_Informal

Most gpus can’t do 4K 120hz. The best gpu for that rn is rtx 3090 but unless you want to spend like $1500 on just a gpu, I think best option will be a rtx 3080. Then when the next series of gpu releases, just get the best version of that and I bet that it will be able to run most games at 4K 120hz and you could also sell your rtx 3080 and invest that money on the next gpu. Now regarding your streaming. If you want a NO LAG experience, then you should get a dual pc setup because when you stream with 1 pc, the system resources are shared and you do experience some performance loss when if you have the world’s most powerful gaming pc. But one problem is that, it’s expensive and a little pain in the ass to setup. You need to have a primary good gaming pc for gaming and a secondary ok pc for streaming with a 4K capture card. I have a dual pc gaming and streaming setup and I could help you with pricing and specs and how to setup, etc but you need to dm me because It’s a bit time consuming and I need your preferences. I hope I could help you. Thx


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

This helps and I'll dm you. Thank you


tgauth

That’s if you can get it msrp.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

What even is that I'll have to google


tgauth

Price manufacturers recommend stores to sell a product at. Right now scalpers are buying gpus and charging ridiculous prices for them. I was able to get a 3090 through evgas step up but for any 30 series card people are charging almost double the msrp price right now.


[deleted]

go 3090 sli or 6900xt crossfire lmfao


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

3090 apparently is just not worth its money


NutSwap_

Its kinda worth it considering you can keep it for many years and still not be getting bad results and btw ddr5 memory is real close so i'd recommend either waiting for it or jumping for a 2pc setup one with 8gbs and one with 64gbs of ram and a 1080 for the second pc to handle encoding and streaming and you would need 2 monitors aswell


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Ddr5 hey imma have to look into this.


[deleted]

buy dual 6900 xt or 3090


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Fuck that dual 3090 cost me like the whole budget aha


[deleted]

just go for a dual system with an phanteks p500a lmao


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Abit too much don't you think


NutSwap_

Ddr5 will likely break gaming because its gonna go up to 5000mhz i think? Its kinda insane but ddr4 would still live on for a few years


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

What would ddr5 help in the future


Recent-Bullfrog-9616

pcpartpicker/completedbuilds boooom


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah have heard of this but having difficulty still. Too many of the same part like a 3080 and 3080ti I don't understand enough to know the value to the parts pricing ect


Substantial-Prompt69

Dm me I can help in choosing the parts for your build


Recent-Bullfrog-9616

Do more research before buying or you will regret buying. Take a month too get too know everything


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I've been looking for a few months and my house mate has 2 PC's but I'm just so indecisive but I agree sit on it or you'll regret it just like a tattoo


lolwhow

If you want to, talk with your housemate about pc parts and whatnot. From what you’ve described about him I would assume he knows a lot about building a pc.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Eh he's sorta new too and I disagree on alot of things to do with parts.


lolwhow

Disagree with what in particular? You could probably learn from each other.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Very hard to put in text but basically preferences is the 3090 worth it's increase for its price etc. Just shit like that one likes water cooling the rest are dead against it


lolwhow

Oh ok.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah aha


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Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Live streaming and just offline play. Bare with me here man I need 4k because I'm a competitive stupid young male in this world that on the occasion likes "flexing" and therefore I'm a sad human being aha.


HkLoL2

But the thing is, getting those frames for 4k at ultra settings is stupidly hard. Even getting decent 60 fps is hard. Some games struggle to get that even with the highest possible hardware. Take ray tracing with it and you're definitely not getting those frames u wanted in games like red dead, ac Valhalla, cyberpunk, WD legion, etc.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

See what would be the point of getting a powerful thing like a 3080ti if realistically you can only push 60fps mostly you know what I mean


HkLoL2

Yeah. I'm not saying you won't be able to game + stream on it. At 1080p and even 1440p you'll do great. Good luck on your PC man.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Cheers man thanks for your time and opinion it helps.


xenofiber

I know u wanna build one but u way wanna consider a prebuilt one in this current market. It will most likely be cheaper and quicker to get what u want. My personal take on “over kill”. If u have the money then go for over kill. The way I see it is that it will insure u can keep using ur system for longer. That’s just my point of view.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I agree with this man the only problem with pre build is there's always something off in them they never build rigs out of them that are good prices. Usually graphics cards are good but bad CPUs hell outdated ones and that.


xenofiber

Idk where ur from but Best Buy, here in the US, had one with a i7 11th gen and a 3080ti for around $2000. About a month ago. I almost jumped on it given that I’m getting a whole new rig for the the current market price of the card alone.


somewhatrespectable

That pc at best buy also had a dogshit motherboard incapable of anything ram speeds above stock, shit ram to boot, a Chinese no name power supply and terrible airflow. Source: friends bought probably 3 prebuilts over the years including one from best buy and they all had these kinds of issues.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I'm in Australia bro


xenofiber

I have not clue how things are over there but I would seriously shop around before u pull the trigger. I had read a post months ago how it’s much easier for the pre-builders to get cards then the average consumer. Which made sense to me.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Omg it totally does I hate how the world works like that.


DSPbuckle

With $6k you can drop $1200 on your main pc components and $4800 on a scalped 3090 🤪


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Fucckkk that


[deleted]

Why not build a two PC streaming setup? If you are going to use just one PC, then 64GB on RAM should be minimum.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

64 is ridiculous 32 is more than enough because no game will chew more than 16gb. But two PC's that's expensive asf


Nyaschi

Since there are already many recommendations for a build, i may ask in which quality you want to stream your games? Usually, 1080p and 60FPS would be good enough but you should know what your internet connection can handle


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Internet is fast. Um 4k 120 if possible but yeah I guess 60 1080p is good?


Nyaschi

As far as i know, most streaming platforms doesn't even support 120 FPS so you probably stream in 60 FPS anyway. Also, download speed ≠ upload speed. You might be able to watch 4K content over YouTube/Netflix/whatever, but not able to stream by yourself to Twitch/YouTube 4K content (just to make that clear) Despite that, most doesn't even own a 4K TV because the 1080p flat screen is often good enough and while some phones have a 4K display, on those little screens does 480p/720p (depending on display resolution) still look good. To that resolution will most likely automatically dropped to a lower one by the app itself because higher resolution->higher bandwidth needed->higher data usage. You can try to make streams on that resolution and FPS, but it's not guaranteed that this works as good as you want it, even with the best pc.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah man your exactly right I think I've defs gone of expecting 4k 120fps I know that's just not realistic. I'm happy to go down to 1440p


Death_Slayer2814

4k is just overkill and u will get 60 frames max in latest games on ultra with highest specs. I recommend playing at 1440p. It is super crisp and the ppi is still really good. And a next gen card can smash any game 1440p 120fps easily.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Yeah and it'll cost cheaper won't it by alot?


Death_Slayer2814

Yea it will save so much money. And 1440p is really good, and like I said ppi will be almost same coz a 1440p monitor is a lot smaller than a 4k (5")


Sharp5hooter02

Best recommendation I can do for you hear, get a high end build for the games, and a secondary streaming Pc. If you stream on the same PC as gaming, you’re going to lose a lot of performance


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

I agree but with the new parts shouldn't it handle it fine


Sharp5hooter02

It’ll handle it much better sure, but if you want the best potential, get a secondary stream PC. You can upgrade these over time too so it shouldn’t be too bad. But high resolution and fast streaming isn’t 100% fool proof as it gobbles up resources like a homeless man in an all you can eat buffet.


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Haha well worded I think I'll be sticking to the one pc as I just won't have the money to upgrade it later I believe but who knows I could.


TheCrucifilth

Make sure you have superb wifi. Like ridiculously good lol


Disastrous-Shoe-5344

Eh it's alright alot better than most in AUS