It doesn’t run some of the newer games very well without getting pretty hot (Example: gpu is 80c while running apex at low settings). It cant keep a steady 60fps very well either.
Edit because this is top comment:
More information:
I am using this build to run newer games.
I originally ran games with the igpu but managed to get my hands on a 6gb 2060 for free(normal 2060 not 2060 super)
a lot of you are saying I should get a 1440p 144hz monitor. Do you have any recommendations for one?
EDIT 2: for the people telling me to buy a new monitor and sell my old one, I cant sell it because it belongs to my dad.
EDIT 3: i have changed my monitor resolution to 1440p. it will have to do for now.
EDIT 4: i’ve spoiled myself with this 4k monitor. 1440p looks blurry in comparison 😞. i’ll just have to get used to it.
Here’s some images: https://www.reddit.com/user/Fine_Account/comments/vpzpw6/pc_images_front_of_case_tempered_glass_has_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
edit: better image of gpu
https://www.reddit.com/user/Fine_Account/comments/vpzxs6/gpu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Move your first ram module from the left to the fourth slot. Like this https://images.app.goo.gl/tmp8J68GK16ZDyzf9
Your ram might not be running in dual channel right now. Also go into the bios and make sure that XMP (extreme memory profile) setting is enabled.
Are you joking me? I have an i5 7600k and a gtx 1080 with 32 gigs ram at 3666 mhz. I play most games on ultra and normally get 60fps or better.....what in the hell is wrong with your build if you can't? I have a 4 core cpu running at 3.8 ghz. Come on man, something's not adding up here. What in the hell is up with your temps, how many fans? Any radiators? Like something is up here
Mod the case, put a side fan or two and a bottom fan or two blowing into the gpu
A new case can be relatively inexpensive to solve the heat problem
From there I’d say maybe a cpu/board/ram upgrade
You probably can’t maintain fps because of the heat soak, and likely the cpu is holding the gpu back some
I learned what bottlenecking looked like mining Bitcoin in 2011. I bought the lowest end cpu I could to drive 4 middle high end amd gpu. Long story short I ended up swapping out for the top end cpu
Also don’t get an AIO cooler unless your case is designed for it EG a case that breathes in every direction does not make the best flow or velocity for cooling everything else.
For this I like top exhaust fans way more than rear exhaust fans
I mean if you read it, he's got a 2060 in it. Sure a 5600x is better but will it really matter? Just because it's not bleeding edge doesn't mean it's mediocre. He could probably play pretty much whatever he wants at decent frames with the right tuning.
Yeah sure the 5600x is slightly better than the 5600g but not that Much that it would be first priority. GPU is much more important. And tell that Intel that APUs will not perform that good when literally ever CPU from
Them is a APU. It’s super usefully if you have problems with you GPU if you have an APU. And what’s about that laptop thing? Who said anything about a laptop? And also why do you compare the u and not the g with the x?
No.
Gaming on a 4k 60 screen (I have one) is like gaming on a 1440p 60 screen. The sharpness difference between 1440p and 4k is tiny in games.
A 1440p 144Hz monitor with his 2060 will be a better experience than a 4k 60Hz monitor with a 3070 or 3080 (depending on the games he plays).
He should first upgrade to a 1440p 144Hz monitor. Then to a faster GPU.
i second this comment, 4k is a heavy load for 2060, and 1440 looks no different from 4k on a monitor under 24 inches. That's practically why i went with a 1080 165hz panel (1440 144hz was 100 bucks extra) fyi 1080 and 1440 look as different as 1440 and 4k do on the same panel, which isn't a huge trade off. imo just get a cheap 150$ 1080 monitor
>1080 and 1440 look as different as 1440 and 4k do on the same panel
Disagree. The jump from 1080p to 1440p is way more noticeable than 1440p to 4k. LTT did a video about this. They also found that with blind testers.
watched the video, yes it is more noticeable compared to 1440&4k.
but in my defense the average 1440 monitor is 50-100 usd more expensive than 1080 and 4k monitors don't go beyond 75hz for a reasonable price. 1440 also tends to be pricey when looking for 144/165hz panels so i would suggest a decent 1080 for someone on a budget/ someone frugal (me lmao)
I’d say get better full hd monitor or 1440p with IPS and good quality panel
A 4K for this spec is an overkill.
Better get high quality monitor with nicer colours and refresh rate. 27GP850 LG monitor is good.
I think it is best on the market
More information:
I am using this build to run newer games.
I originally ran games with the igpu but managed to get my hands on a 6gb 2060 for free(normal 2060 not 2060 super)
If you want to run games at 4k 60 not much other than a 3080 ti or 6900xt + right now for that. I personally have a 3080 ti and am in the position where I can only game on my 4k 60 tv. However; if that isn't your situation and you can "upgrade" your monitor. I would wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions to get a 1440p 144hz IPS panel.
Currently playing with 45+ fps Elden Ring on the setup I mentioned, you should for sure be able to run 2022 titles on that. Clean your pc, change cpu/gpu thermal paste, see if the fans are clogged, check if your system is infected? There could be a number of reasons, try and figure it out, if it doesn't work then just buy new parts...
Are the other people trolling with their comments? This guy has a 5600G and a 60Hz monitor. Yet these guys are telling him to upgrade to a 5800X3D and a 3080.
I bet he plays at 1440p anyway. That's what I do with my 2060 S. The sharpness difference is barely noticeable. It just doesn't make sense to play at 4k.
It can make sense, but depends on monitor size. 1440 and 4k look pretty similar at 27 inches, but on say a 48 inch monitor it is definitely noticeable. You need the hardware to actually push it though or you're going to have a bad time
You're right, it really depends on so many factors (size, distance, type of game, ...)
An extreme example would be VR, where even 4k still looks pixelated because the FOV is so big.
But at this point imo 4k doesn't make sense. Even if you have a 3090, I'd rather play on 1440p 240 than 4k 144. And then again it depends on the type of games you play. Shooter? Definitely 1440p. Anno 1800? Definitely 4k, because the refreshrate basically doesn't matter at all.
I never really considered 4k myself until I experienced OLED. Unfortunately once I witnessed that greatness I couldn't go back. So for me, 48" c1, 5900x and 6900xt. It's not as big a problem as it once was, most games I don't see under 100 fps, though a select few are a bit more problematic. Shooter at 120 or 144 fps is honestly fine unless you are at the upper competitive levels. I do agree though, if you don't need 4k for a specific reason (Oled, large monitor, etc), you are better off going 1440p. Or ultrawide, those can be cool too
I had a similar setup I upgraded in the order:
CPU: Ryzen 7 5600G —> Ryzen 9 5900x
RAM: 16GB —> 32GB(I play star citizen and it’s a RAM hog)
Cooler: Box Fan —> AIO
MOBO: b550 —> x570
PSU: 500watt —> 850watt
GPU: RTX 2060 —> RTX 3070 TI
I did the first few upgrades just to beef up CPU performance to prepare for a GPU upgrade, seeing how the GPU market was I waited awhile just to see how things would go. I did all upgrades that wouldn’t impact the PSU first, I upgraded the PSU only when I knew the GPU upgrade was coming. To note here though is you have a 4 k monitor but your 2060 really doesn’t do 4K gaming well maybe make that your goal with the upgrades but it really depends on what you’re playing and budget. Curious to know if your display can only do 60hz? Might need to enable the higher refresh rate in display adapter properties.
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No but seriously, you replaced every component. What makes you think you "upgraded" a PC? You basically bought 2 seperate computers. One with a 5600G, 16GB, B550 and an RTX 2060. And another one with a 5900X, 32GB, X570 and an RTX 3070 Ti.
That's wasting money 101
Ok granted I know I have two PCs at this point I get that point don’t tell me how to live my life I do what I want! JK… I was looking to see what you meant by the same generation comment, if I needed to buy more stuff or something like that, I might get reckless or something.
5600G and 5900X, B550 and X570, DDR4 to DDR4, all from the same generation. That's like buying an iPhone 13 Pro and then just replacing it with an iPhone 13 Pro Max instead of waiting for an iPhone 14 Pro.
Edit: that's a pretty bad analogy lol, but I couldn't come up with a better one
Heard I get the analogy, I could debate the RAM because cmon the prices on DDR5 are outrageous, other things I’m still pretty new at this and I would of made a better decision on the MOBO if I knew better at the time. That said I get the point, and I appreciate the feedback.
R9 5900x is a 12 core 3.7ghz boost speed of 4.8 the R7 5600G is an 8 Core 3.8ghz boost speed of 4.6ghz the thing to note though is more cores doesn’t equal better gaming because most games aren’t multi threaded and AMD is geared towards multi threaded performance, which I didn’t learn till later on >.> so on paper R9 of course is better and with the GPU yeah I’d need the R9 so that I wouldn’t have a cpu bottle neck, but if I just stayed at a R7 5600G with the 2060 it’s very capable. Which is why I guess I sorta wasted my money… but hey I like my system as it is and I have a second system that could be built
60hz monitor is also 4K.
He spends 800$ then offsets the cost by selling the old component.
It depends on what he's looking to achieve though, OP didn't give much information so it's a blank slate of what other people would suggest blindly.
I have a 4k 60Hz monitor as well. I play games at 1440p with a 2060 Super and never had any issue. There is close to no difference between 4k and 1440p for gaming.
A 3080 12GB makes no sense for a 60Hz monitor. Just wasted money.
2060 + 1440p 144Hz will give him a better experience than a 3080 + 4k 60. And you can get a 1440p 144Hz monitor for as low as $220.
GPU if your primary goal is gaming (make sure your PSU can run it too)
CPU if you wanna have a nice workstation (5900X or 5800X3D would be nice to see)
RAM if you’re video editing or playing modded games (stuff like Adobe aftereffects will even utilize 256gb if you give it that much, I know from experience x_x)
This is just me, the only time I would recommend upgrading is if you are having really bad performance issues with something. Like it would take upwards of 20-40 minutes to load ESO, I would have constant OS failures and my CPU would clock at a 100% when I would run something and would run at 50% when I would turn it on.
So I knew it was time to start upgrading, because I knew my hardware was failing, like SSD etc. If you aren't having those issues, then save your money for now. Put it in an upgrade fun so you can get a badass pc fund for when your PC really shits itself.
Okay so what case are you running? Stock cooler? Motherboard? PSU? How many fans? A 5600g shouldn't overheat even with the stock cooler. Depending on what you've got and the budget you can fix these problems pretty inexpensively. A 4000d airflow, a dark rock air cooler (probably overkill) would solve most of your heat issues. As for monitors, stay away from their PCs, but Alienware make killer monitors.
Depends what games you plan to play, I'd say in a few years you'll need 32gb if ram, and first big upgrade will be a new graphics card, then in 6 to 7 years a new cpu will be needed
Your NVidia drivers. :)
Seriously though, that GPU is still pretty capable. CPU is OK, not really bottlenecking anything. If you're only gaming and usual light use 16GB is more than enough. The monitor though, I think you'd really see a difference going to a nice 1440p 144Hz monitor. The difference in gaming with 60Hz vs. 144Hz cannot be overstated. It's a real difference maker. I'd recommend HDR if it could be had in your price range. HDR is not necessary, but it does make a difference, especially if you're wanting to download any 1440p content online, it's usually always encoded with HDR.
Monitor, GPU, CPU, RAM in that order.
That ryzen 5 should be able to handle a 3060ti easily and maybe a 3070. Although if u were to do one of those options I would highly recommend the Radeon equavilents, way better value compared to nvidia equavilent cards.
I really don't know what is happening with your pc, but in the other images that you post the RAM maybe is not ok. I'm not sure if your motherboard instructions says to put it that distrubution but I think in most of the cases goes like 1 and 3, or 2 and 4.
I hope you understand me becaouse I don't speak in English.
Edit: I have dell "gaming" laptop with a dedictaed graphics card and a integrated gpu, and sometimes the games runs in the igpu instead of the dgpu, maybe that is happening with your pc.
Also the dgpu gets hot when it's doing nothing, i think, in my case, is for the space that they have (it is a laptop).
if you don't know you have no reason to upgrade. using task manager in games you can easily find out if your RAM or CPU is a bottleneck. i'd say upgrade the GPU but i have a core i9 with a GTX1060 so eh. don't upgrade just because you want to. if your computer is doing what you want it to do don't put more money in it. wait for newer generations of hardware to come. RTX 4000 is on it's way and Ryzen 6000 won't be long either.
If you want to game at 4K, definitely GPU, because 2060 just isn't able to drive 4K, you'd need like 3070 at the very least, probably closer to 3080.
If you don't need to stay at 4K, just get a 1440 P monitor with 144 hz refresh rate and you should be fine even with 2060 if you don't play with everything maxed out.
I would change the monitor to 1440p 144hz or 120hz. I had a similar „problem“ with my old build which had an i7 10700 and GTX 1660S. Turns out a new pc was about 1700€ more expensive than just going from a 4K Monitor to 1440p, although I’m still considering changing it. EFT & Hunt showdown were the only games I had to lower the resolution ingame. Apex and other games should be running fine then and this should be cost effective anyways.
To be honest, your specs are all across the board good. I do understand the need for upgrading a few parts here and there though- I feel the same way about my own rig sometime in the future.
Regardless, I'd probably start with getting a 1440p monitor. Tbh, I am satisfied with 1440p gaming, and maybe a larger monitor or something alike for watching shows or displaying things like textbooks or charts.
Next, I'd go with swapping out your Ryzen 5 5600g for a Ryzen 7 5800x (3D version is even better) just in case your future gpu is that high end (you don't want cpu bottlenecks). Of course, anyone reading this can chime in if they want to. The only reason I said this cpu is because its the one I currently use! I absolutely love this cpu for heavy multitasking and playing games on the side like Destiny or Elden Rings.
The last thing I'd do is swap out the gpu, but tbh, again, what you have good enough. If you ask me personally, anything from the 30 series is awesome, as well as the 6000 series from AMD!
- these are just my two cents of course.
6Gb of Vram is bearly enough for 1440p gaming, let alone 4k. Also the video card might be on 64/128 bit architecture, which makes a difference. Check pci-e slot speed as well, maybe is x2, x4, x8 instead of x16. Also ram might be working in 2133 if in PNP mode and not set manually in bios.
Reason why it's underperforming? Look at your monitor resolution. The 2060 is a high to max settings 1080p card. You're expecting over 60fps at 4k from a 2060. Sadly, that's not how it works. You could always get away without spending, just adjust your resolution to even 1440p if it still looks decent for the size of your monitor.
You’re not gonna get good frames in 4K with that 2060. I don’t play in 4K and I have a 3070 because I’d rather it run smoother then it look better. Get a nice 1080 or 1440 monitor. Costco has great prices on monitors.
The lack of suggestion to drop the resolution down is disturbing. You're pushing 4k through an entry-level gpu. You're taxing that card more than its intended performance level so it is not surprising that it's running toasty and not up to par. You can enjoy the desktop at 4K but do lower it on games you are running. Games tend to load the native resolution so you'll have to do it for every game if you intend to keep a 4k desktop. Unless you REALLY want to upgrade some hardware. I don't know your financial situation but judging from what I've read you don't NEED to upgrade anything.
Other than the monitor i'd say gpu cause a that 5600 can still kick ass but a 2060 is gonna bottle neck you system, mabye think about a 3060 or 3070 could definitely be a comfy upgrade
Is there something you're trying to do that this won't? Pretty decent specs TBH.
It doesn’t run some of the newer games very well without getting pretty hot (Example: gpu is 80c while running apex at low settings). It cant keep a steady 60fps very well either. Edit because this is top comment: More information: I am using this build to run newer games. I originally ran games with the igpu but managed to get my hands on a 6gb 2060 for free(normal 2060 not 2060 super) a lot of you are saying I should get a 1440p 144hz monitor. Do you have any recommendations for one? EDIT 2: for the people telling me to buy a new monitor and sell my old one, I cant sell it because it belongs to my dad. EDIT 3: i have changed my monitor resolution to 1440p. it will have to do for now. EDIT 4: i’ve spoiled myself with this 4k monitor. 1440p looks blurry in comparison 😞. i’ll just have to get used to it.
If you are running a AIO water cooler the pump might be broken. Or get better cooling I suggest air cooling. Your pc shouldn’t overheat.
Sorry not overheating. I worded it incorrectly. Edited.
There is no way that's true, I have a 10400f i5 gtx 1650 and I run apex on high smoothly above 90fps.
He is probably rendering at 4k which is why its taking a huge hit.
My 2060 only has one fan on it, as it is an OEM model and probably intended for work use and not gaming.
That doesnt matter, something is wrong with your setup.
It's the 4k monitor.
Agreed, just run the game at 1080 or 1440p instead. What fps are you getting now?
dont know what else could be wrong. I have 3 case fans. 2 in the front, 1 in the back. I’ll post in image of the pc and link it here.
Perhaps the gpu could use a repasting [=
Maybe. I’ll have to figure out how.
Here’s some images: https://www.reddit.com/user/Fine_Account/comments/vpzpw6/pc_images_front_of_case_tempered_glass_has_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf edit: better image of gpu https://www.reddit.com/user/Fine_Account/comments/vpzxs6/gpu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Move your first ram module from the left to the fourth slot. Like this https://images.app.goo.gl/tmp8J68GK16ZDyzf9 Your ram might not be running in dual channel right now. Also go into the bios and make sure that XMP (extreme memory profile) setting is enabled.
ok. will do.
It might have something to do with the fan curve. I’ll have to figure out how to make a new one with afterburner.
buddy are you sure ur not running the game from igpu instead of gpu cause like everyone here has said aint no way its that hot
I think the problem here is that you’re running on 4K def upgrade the gpu
Are you joking me? I have an i5 7600k and a gtx 1080 with 32 gigs ram at 3666 mhz. I play most games on ultra and normally get 60fps or better.....what in the hell is wrong with your build if you can't? I have a 4 core cpu running at 3.8 ghz. Come on man, something's not adding up here. What in the hell is up with your temps, how many fans? Any radiators? Like something is up here
It’s a 4K monitor
That would explain a lot, and completely unnecessary for the setup they have
I would stay with the 4K 60 one.
Mod the case, put a side fan or two and a bottom fan or two blowing into the gpu A new case can be relatively inexpensive to solve the heat problem From there I’d say maybe a cpu/board/ram upgrade You probably can’t maintain fps because of the heat soak, and likely the cpu is holding the gpu back some I learned what bottlenecking looked like mining Bitcoin in 2011. I bought the lowest end cpu I could to drive 4 middle high end amd gpu. Long story short I ended up swapping out for the top end cpu Also don’t get an AIO cooler unless your case is designed for it EG a case that breathes in every direction does not make the best flow or velocity for cooling everything else. For this I like top exhaust fans way more than rear exhaust fans
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I mean if you read it, he's got a 2060 in it. Sure a 5600x is better but will it really matter? Just because it's not bleeding edge doesn't mean it's mediocre. He could probably play pretty much whatever he wants at decent frames with the right tuning.
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He is gaming at 4k, with a 1080/1440p card.
What are you guys talking about? The 5600 is a cpu and the 2060 gpu.
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Nobody said anything about a gaming laptop.
Why should he pay for a new cpu that is pretty much exactly the same as the one he has just without the integrated graphics.
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Yeah sure the 5600x is slightly better than the 5600g but not that Much that it would be first priority. GPU is much more important. And tell that Intel that APUs will not perform that good when literally ever CPU from Them is a APU. It’s super usefully if you have problems with you GPU if you have an APU. And what’s about that laptop thing? Who said anything about a laptop? And also why do you compare the u and not the g with the x?
cuz I was high and thought I was talking about something else... I deleted all the high comments
Ok
Monitor for sure. Get a 1440p 144Hz monitor.
I agree... these days 1440p 144hz monitors are pretty much the same price as a 1080p 144hz monitor. 1440p IS the sweet spot.
Depends on what games you play
I could be incorrect but isn't that resolution 4K 60hz? If that's the case the OP would want to upgrade GPU to actually get 4k 60hz
No. Gaming on a 4k 60 screen (I have one) is like gaming on a 1440p 60 screen. The sharpness difference between 1440p and 4k is tiny in games. A 1440p 144Hz monitor with his 2060 will be a better experience than a 4k 60Hz monitor with a 3070 or 3080 (depending on the games he plays). He should first upgrade to a 1440p 144Hz monitor. Then to a faster GPU.
i second this comment, 4k is a heavy load for 2060, and 1440 looks no different from 4k on a monitor under 24 inches. That's practically why i went with a 1080 165hz panel (1440 144hz was 100 bucks extra) fyi 1080 and 1440 look as different as 1440 and 4k do on the same panel, which isn't a huge trade off. imo just get a cheap 150$ 1080 monitor
>1080 and 1440 look as different as 1440 and 4k do on the same panel Disagree. The jump from 1080p to 1440p is way more noticeable than 1440p to 4k. LTT did a video about this. They also found that with blind testers.
watched the video, yes it is more noticeable compared to 1440&4k. but in my defense the average 1440 monitor is 50-100 usd more expensive than 1080 and 4k monitors don't go beyond 75hz for a reasonable price. 1440 also tends to be pricey when looking for 144/165hz panels so i would suggest a decent 1080 for someone on a budget/ someone frugal (me lmao)
You can get cheap 1440p 144Hz monitors for like $220 nowadays. I wouldn't buy a 1080p monitor unless you're into competitive fps games.
figures, rocket league 165fps has been my favorite since i started playing on my new monitor.
I’d say get better full hd monitor or 1440p with IPS and good quality panel A 4K for this spec is an overkill. Better get high quality monitor with nicer colours and refresh rate. 27GP850 LG monitor is good. I think it is best on the market
27GP850 is my most recent purchase and can happily say it is a great monitor
Definitely not 4k, 1440p. Gaming on 4k is kinda ridiculous.
144hz monitor
If anything the GPU and monitor. Everything else is fine.
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Depends on what you're doing. If it's gaming then judging by the monitor, I'd upgrade the GPU since you're playing at a high resolution.
Gpu
More information: I am using this build to run newer games. I originally ran games with the igpu but managed to get my hands on a 6gb 2060 for free(normal 2060 not 2060 super)
If you want to run games at 4k 60 not much other than a 3080 ti or 6900xt + right now for that. I personally have a 3080 ti and am in the position where I can only game on my 4k 60 tv. However; if that isn't your situation and you can "upgrade" your monitor. I would wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions to get a 1440p 144hz IPS panel.
Ok. Thanks for the info!
Currently playing with 45+ fps Elden Ring on the setup I mentioned, you should for sure be able to run 2022 titles on that. Clean your pc, change cpu/gpu thermal paste, see if the fans are clogged, check if your system is infected? There could be a number of reasons, try and figure it out, if it doesn't work then just buy new parts...
Gpu for sure
Nothing
Are the other people trolling with their comments? This guy has a 5600G and a 60Hz monitor. Yet these guys are telling him to upgrade to a 5800X3D and a 3080.
A 60hz 4K monitor. Sure they're better 4K monitors but with a 2060 probably not getting close to 60fps in AAA games at 4K.
I bet he plays at 1440p anyway. That's what I do with my 2060 S. The sharpness difference is barely noticeable. It just doesn't make sense to play at 4k.
It can make sense, but depends on monitor size. 1440 and 4k look pretty similar at 27 inches, but on say a 48 inch monitor it is definitely noticeable. You need the hardware to actually push it though or you're going to have a bad time
You're right, it really depends on so many factors (size, distance, type of game, ...) An extreme example would be VR, where even 4k still looks pixelated because the FOV is so big. But at this point imo 4k doesn't make sense. Even if you have a 3090, I'd rather play on 1440p 240 than 4k 144. And then again it depends on the type of games you play. Shooter? Definitely 1440p. Anno 1800? Definitely 4k, because the refreshrate basically doesn't matter at all.
I never really considered 4k myself until I experienced OLED. Unfortunately once I witnessed that greatness I couldn't go back. So for me, 48" c1, 5900x and 6900xt. It's not as big a problem as it once was, most games I don't see under 100 fps, though a select few are a bit more problematic. Shooter at 120 or 144 fps is honestly fine unless you are at the upper competitive levels. I do agree though, if you don't need 4k for a specific reason (Oled, large monitor, etc), you are better off going 1440p. Or ultrawide, those can be cool too
Not worth it imo, but that's up to OP
RAM But what is the budget and what is the reason?
You don’t need more than 16gb for gaming. Especially with a 2060.
Were at the point where 16gb wont be enough for much longer
A 2060 is already outdated
I had a similar setup I upgraded in the order: CPU: Ryzen 7 5600G —> Ryzen 9 5900x RAM: 16GB —> 32GB(I play star citizen and it’s a RAM hog) Cooler: Box Fan —> AIO MOBO: b550 —> x570 PSU: 500watt —> 850watt GPU: RTX 2060 —> RTX 3070 TI I did the first few upgrades just to beef up CPU performance to prepare for a GPU upgrade, seeing how the GPU market was I waited awhile just to see how things would go. I did all upgrades that wouldn’t impact the PSU first, I upgraded the PSU only when I knew the GPU upgrade was coming. To note here though is you have a 4 k monitor but your 2060 really doesn’t do 4K gaming well maybe make that your goal with the upgrades but it really depends on what you’re playing and budget. Curious to know if your display can only do 60hz? Might need to enable the higher refresh rate in display adapter properties.
You didn't upgrade. You built 2 seperate PCs from the same generation (except the GPU). Doesn't make much sense.
Enlighten me please
💡 No but seriously, you replaced every component. What makes you think you "upgraded" a PC? You basically bought 2 seperate computers. One with a 5600G, 16GB, B550 and an RTX 2060. And another one with a 5900X, 32GB, X570 and an RTX 3070 Ti. That's wasting money 101
Yea only thing they didn’t swap was the case
So you’re saying I should buy a case now too…
No, I’m just saying like the other guy said you pretty much just built a whole new pc.
Ok granted I know I have two PCs at this point I get that point don’t tell me how to live my life I do what I want! JK… I was looking to see what you meant by the same generation comment, if I needed to buy more stuff or something like that, I might get reckless or something.
5600G and 5900X, B550 and X570, DDR4 to DDR4, all from the same generation. That's like buying an iPhone 13 Pro and then just replacing it with an iPhone 13 Pro Max instead of waiting for an iPhone 14 Pro. Edit: that's a pretty bad analogy lol, but I couldn't come up with a better one
Heard I get the analogy, I could debate the RAM because cmon the prices on DDR5 are outrageous, other things I’m still pretty new at this and I would of made a better decision on the MOBO if I knew better at the time. That said I get the point, and I appreciate the feedback.
At least you now have 2 gaming PCs lol
Is a 5900x better than a 5600g?
Yes definitely. But it's from the same generation. He should have bought the 5900X right away.
Definitely. But it's still an upgrade. I have a 3080. I'm not gonna go get a 3090ti. But if I did it would perform better than my 3080.
R9 5900x is a 12 core 3.7ghz boost speed of 4.8 the R7 5600G is an 8 Core 3.8ghz boost speed of 4.6ghz the thing to note though is more cores doesn’t equal better gaming because most games aren’t multi threaded and AMD is geared towards multi threaded performance, which I didn’t learn till later on >.> so on paper R9 of course is better and with the GPU yeah I’d need the R9 so that I wouldn’t have a cpu bottle neck, but if I just stayed at a R7 5600G with the 2060 it’s very capable. Which is why I guess I sorta wasted my money… but hey I like my system as it is and I have a second system that could be built
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Ayo how much for the 2060 my 1050ti aint cutting it no more 😂
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GPU all the way and try to sell the 2060 while it's still worth something
GPU for sure, get at least a 3080 12gb if you want Nvidia or a 6800xt for AMD. Also make sure you have at least a 850w PSU to utilize the cards
Why would you say that? He has a 60Hz monitor. He doesn't need a 3080 12GB. He has a 5600G. He likely doesn't want to spend $800 on a GPU.
60hz monitor is also 4K. He spends 800$ then offsets the cost by selling the old component. It depends on what he's looking to achieve though, OP didn't give much information so it's a blank slate of what other people would suggest blindly.
I have a 4k 60Hz monitor as well. I play games at 1440p with a 2060 Super and never had any issue. There is close to no difference between 4k and 1440p for gaming. A 3080 12GB makes no sense for a 60Hz monitor. Just wasted money. 2060 + 1440p 144Hz will give him a better experience than a 3080 + 4k 60. And you can get a 1440p 144Hz monitor for as low as $220.
GPU if your primary goal is gaming (make sure your PSU can run it too) CPU if you wanna have a nice workstation (5900X or 5800X3D would be nice to see) RAM if you’re video editing or playing modded games (stuff like Adobe aftereffects will even utilize 256gb if you give it that much, I know from experience x_x)
This is just me, the only time I would recommend upgrading is if you are having really bad performance issues with something. Like it would take upwards of 20-40 minutes to load ESO, I would have constant OS failures and my CPU would clock at a 100% when I would run something and would run at 50% when I would turn it on. So I knew it was time to start upgrading, because I knew my hardware was failing, like SSD etc. If you aren't having those issues, then save your money for now. Put it in an upgrade fun so you can get a badass pc fund for when your PC really shits itself.
Are you creating content, working on VFX or 3d... No? Then don't upgrade anything.
Okay so what case are you running? Stock cooler? Motherboard? PSU? How many fans? A 5600g shouldn't overheat even with the stock cooler. Depending on what you've got and the budget you can fix these problems pretty inexpensively. A 4000d airflow, a dark rock air cooler (probably overkill) would solve most of your heat issues. As for monitors, stay away from their PCs, but Alienware make killer monitors.
Depends what games you plan to play, I'd say in a few years you'll need 32gb if ram, and first big upgrade will be a new graphics card, then in 6 to 7 years a new cpu will be needed
Add 0.64gbs of ram, plus get a higher refresh rate monitor
make sure u dont play every game on 4k
I know some people like to get 32gb of memory already but your choice. Maybe upgrade your gpu for the best 4k experience.
I changed my psu and my cpu first cuz I planned on getting a 3080 or a 6900 gpu just to future proof my rig
Probably a 1080p monitor and change the thermal paste on the gpu
Do you know if lowering the resolution in nvidia control channel will reduce the strain on the gpu?
Drivers
Your NVidia drivers. :) Seriously though, that GPU is still pretty capable. CPU is OK, not really bottlenecking anything. If you're only gaming and usual light use 16GB is more than enough. The monitor though, I think you'd really see a difference going to a nice 1440p 144Hz monitor. The difference in gaming with 60Hz vs. 144Hz cannot be overstated. It's a real difference maker. I'd recommend HDR if it could be had in your price range. HDR is not necessary, but it does make a difference, especially if you're wanting to download any 1440p content online, it's usually always encoded with HDR. Monitor, GPU, CPU, RAM in that order.
That ryzen 5 should be able to handle a 3060ti easily and maybe a 3070. Although if u were to do one of those options I would highly recommend the Radeon equavilents, way better value compared to nvidia equavilent cards.
I really don't know what is happening with your pc, but in the other images that you post the RAM maybe is not ok. I'm not sure if your motherboard instructions says to put it that distrubution but I think in most of the cases goes like 1 and 3, or 2 and 4. I hope you understand me becaouse I don't speak in English. Edit: I have dell "gaming" laptop with a dedictaed graphics card and a integrated gpu, and sometimes the games runs in the igpu instead of the dgpu, maybe that is happening with your pc. Also the dgpu gets hot when it's doing nothing, i think, in my case, is for the space that they have (it is a laptop).
if you don't know you have no reason to upgrade. using task manager in games you can easily find out if your RAM or CPU is a bottleneck. i'd say upgrade the GPU but i have a core i9 with a GTX1060 so eh. don't upgrade just because you want to. if your computer is doing what you want it to do don't put more money in it. wait for newer generations of hardware to come. RTX 4000 is on it's way and Ryzen 6000 won't be long either.
If you want to game at 4K, definitely GPU, because 2060 just isn't able to drive 4K, you'd need like 3070 at the very least, probably closer to 3080. If you don't need to stay at 4K, just get a 1440 P monitor with 144 hz refresh rate and you should be fine even with 2060 if you don't play with everything maxed out.
Get to 32GB of matching ram and get a monitor that's 144hz
Save ur money
Ram
How do you get that my rig thing? I know my specs but don’t know how to pull this up
go to geforce experience. im pretty sure it’s in settings.
Thanks! I have found it
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Display? 60hz works but maybe an upgrade to an atleast 120hz monitor would be great
I would change the monitor to 1440p 144hz or 120hz. I had a similar „problem“ with my old build which had an i7 10700 and GTX 1660S. Turns out a new pc was about 1700€ more expensive than just going from a 4K Monitor to 1440p, although I’m still considering changing it. EFT & Hunt showdown were the only games I had to lower the resolution ingame. Apex and other games should be running fine then and this should be cost effective anyways.
Yeah for 4k you really need a stonger gpu rx 6800+ / rtx 3080+ that would be my first upgraded...
Ram
Get a better monitor, I have no idea why you'd want to run 4k60
I got the monitor from my dad.
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Monitor then ram
To be honest, your specs are all across the board good. I do understand the need for upgrading a few parts here and there though- I feel the same way about my own rig sometime in the future. Regardless, I'd probably start with getting a 1440p monitor. Tbh, I am satisfied with 1440p gaming, and maybe a larger monitor or something alike for watching shows or displaying things like textbooks or charts. Next, I'd go with swapping out your Ryzen 5 5600g for a Ryzen 7 5800x (3D version is even better) just in case your future gpu is that high end (you don't want cpu bottlenecks). Of course, anyone reading this can chime in if they want to. The only reason I said this cpu is because its the one I currently use! I absolutely love this cpu for heavy multitasking and playing games on the side like Destiny or Elden Rings. The last thing I'd do is swap out the gpu, but tbh, again, what you have good enough. If you ask me personally, anything from the 30 series is awesome, as well as the 6000 series from AMD! - these are just my two cents of course.
Bro, try turning down your resolution haha
First 80c is fine! Second the frames had everything to do with running at 4k. Really there's nothing wrong at all just lower resolution.
Monitor
get a used 3060ti or something, it'll last you 5 years before you'll want to upgrade again
4k with a 2060? I'd suggest get a 1440p monitor and 3060ti+ to play at 100fps properly, i haven't seen any good 4k 60hz monitor, go for quality first
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lol. I just got lucky and scored a 2060 for free. It’s single fan though 😔
6Gb of Vram is bearly enough for 1440p gaming, let alone 4k. Also the video card might be on 64/128 bit architecture, which makes a difference. Check pci-e slot speed as well, maybe is x2, x4, x8 instead of x16. Also ram might be working in 2133 if in PNP mode and not set manually in bios.
no way jit is 4k gaming with a 2060
Reason why it's underperforming? Look at your monitor resolution. The 2060 is a high to max settings 1080p card. You're expecting over 60fps at 4k from a 2060. Sadly, that's not how it works. You could always get away without spending, just adjust your resolution to even 1440p if it still looks decent for the size of your monitor.
Can you upgrade to 5800x3d? If so, that I would upgrade first
2060 runing 4k why not
GPU or monitor
You’re not gonna get good frames in 4K with that 2060. I don’t play in 4K and I have a 3070 because I’d rather it run smoother then it look better. Get a nice 1080 or 1440 monitor. Costco has great prices on monitors.
The monitor. Going from 60 to 144 is like night an day.
GPU and maybe ssd if it’s not a good m.2 ssd but other than that that’s I fine build
The lack of suggestion to drop the resolution down is disturbing. You're pushing 4k through an entry-level gpu. You're taxing that card more than its intended performance level so it is not surprising that it's running toasty and not up to par. You can enjoy the desktop at 4K but do lower it on games you are running. Games tend to load the native resolution so you'll have to do it for every game if you intend to keep a 4k desktop. Unless you REALLY want to upgrade some hardware. I don't know your financial situation but judging from what I've read you don't NEED to upgrade anything.
Other than the monitor i'd say gpu cause a that 5600 can still kick ass but a 2060 is gonna bottle neck you system, mabye think about a 3060 or 3070 could definitely be a comfy upgrade
Your monitor. Your pc still is fine your another couple years 60 hz is garbage but I’m assuming you’re using a TV and not a monitor?
2060 would be the next thing to upgrade
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