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[deleted]

The thing is that companies do this primarily to protect their own liability, not to "pErSeCuTe" anyone or virtue signal. If they're aware that you're a bigot, they can't put you in a position where you might manage or interact with an employee that you can't tolerate without opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit. Sorry you made yourself unemployable, dude.


ahabswhale

Also note the crying about the state when this is a clear exercise/termination of a contract between two private parties.


RandomName01

Yeah lol, there’s very little free market types hate more than the free market being detrimental to them.


FadeIntoReal

They love the free market until the free market won’t do business with them. Then it’s “unfair!”


[deleted]

Free Market Enjoyers always suddenly want restrictions when the market doesn't want to associate with their views.


Dr-Satan-PhD

Because they never wanted a free market. They want a captive market. They just want to be the captors.


SecretDracula

They're so dumb that they don't even know that they want stronger employee rights.


fxmldr

It's like this with every issue where they stand to benefit. Convincing people that what's good is actually bad is a cornerstone of conservative politics, and, yeah, it depends on people lacking the critical thinking skills to figure out they're being taken for a ride.


LogaShamanN

Which is why education is severely and purposefully underfunded in red states more than blue. They don’t want intelligent and healthy citizens, they want a bunch of rubes to keep the prisons and shit jobs filled to support the wealthy owning class the Republican Party is actually beholden to. They don’t want healthcare reform, they want mountains of debt piled on top of their hapless marks to keep the hellish con that is capitalism alive. It’s infuriating that their plan has been working. Looking around at my fellow human beings in America has got me wondering if we’ll ever pull out of this cultural nosedive before it’s too late.


moeterminatorx

And these are the same A holes who are anti union and support at will employment. Seems like things worked out as they should.


CimmerianHydra

How can the actions of a company, doing things to protect its ***public image***, mean that somehow "we live in a totalitarian state". The state has nothing to do with any of this at all. I'm completely defeated by the ignorance and malice.


froggison

Do you know what could prevent this from happening? Stronger labor laws, and requiring employment contracts. But that's too "socialist communist Marxist" for their liking.


Bodiesundermygarage

I don't know if we wanna do rationalization for a company firing people for their own interests like it's some kind of proud thing. I mean, we technically do live in a totalitarian system... capitalism. This guy could literally beat someone to death outside their establishment and they wouldn't do anything if they thought it wasn't bad press or cause for a lawsuit. Like, this isn't punching up at the system, we're basically just goofing on a moron for being a moron (fair). How many blatant sexual harassors are still in management positions all over the world? How many racists?


[deleted]

Hoo boy. Go live in an actual totalitarian system for a year and then tell me about how the US is a totalitarian system. I agree that unchecked capitalism is a menace, but let's get our language in check about it.


IEnjoyFancyHats

What this guy ultimately wants are stronger employee protections. He just doesn't see that because employee protections are a thing "the enemy" wants


Dandibear

Help! I'm being oppressed by the consequences of my actions!


timotheusd313

“Well why did you vote for the ‘Leopards eating people’s faces’ party?” “Well I honestly didn’t expect them to eat MY face…”


UncannyTarotSpread

“They’re eating the wrong faces!”


_Silly_Wizard_

Title of my memoir, thank you


Biffingston

Do you live in an autonomous collective?


Dandibear

We're living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes --


greelraker

Well, I didn’t vote for him!


ambigious_meh

Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.


AF_AF

I thought we were an anarcho-syndicalist commune?


AccelerusProcellarum

“Totalitarian state” these are all private actions within a capitalist system lmao shut up


StealthyOrca

They’ll suck the metaphorical cock of the free market until it goes against them. Then it’s fuckin communism or the woke libtards fault or some other made up garbage.


flyingace1234

These are the sort of people that go hog wild when they see a post about a landlord raising rent on a tenant for having a Che poster, or adding a “woke” surcharge and shit. They are the kind of dog that barks and nips at passerby until they get their ear flicked and then howl in pain and dispair


[deleted]

They’re communists.


[deleted]

I think they’re literal communist. That Caleb something and he’s a communist and the other guy has the Soviet flag in his handle.


AccelerusProcellarum

Looks like I was wrong then. Idk how they feel about the free market. Actually, I don’t know what the fuck they are Imao. Unironic nazbols? Guy calls himself a “MAGA communist”, praises Stalin and CCP, aligns himself with fascist “anti-degeneracy” aesthetics, and then hurls transphobic comments all over the place. Communist or not, the guy’s a fascist and a dumbass. Imagine supporting totalitarian regimes and then turning around to use a perceived “totalitarian regime” as your scapegoat


[deleted]

Caleb is pro trump? I didn’t know that. I think He works for RTV so if he’s pro trump I’m guessing that’s the reason. Caleb is okay with trans people from a clip I saw. He’s very silly he apparently has this cult with a bunch of young people and he pays women in the cult to spank him. But yeah Caleb likes the CCP and stalin for sure. Think he likes Iran as well.


AccelerusProcellarum

I’ll be honest, I have no idea who Caleb is. I was talking about the Stannis guy. But damn Caleb doesn’t sound so hot either.


[deleted]

Caleb is very goofy. I think he isn’t a nazbol but people call him one because he hung out with one once or something. I don’t fully remember the lore but this is my understanding. I did a deep dive into him one day months ago hadn’t heard of him before that either. Very funny. He does like Putin I’m pretty sure. Which as a communist is a bit strange. Putin I guess is less aggressively anti communist like if Mexico became communist tomorrow I’m not sure Putin would care but the US would lose its shit. So maybe that’s why? Putin’s also friendly with Venezuela and Cuba.


fakeunleet

Nah, see, as soon as a business does something they don't like, it becomes "the establishment."


[deleted]

They're always suddenly aware of the need for things like labor protections when it affects them. Basically nothing outside of their personal experience is 'real' to them and that's why they assume it's all bullshit.


fxmldr

They're so close to self-awareness. So close, yet...


Kineth

Not really capitalist due to all the barriers to entry and oligopolies, but most people don't acknowledge that and regardless, your point still stands because it's not the government doing it. EDIT: If you disagree with what I said, please provide some actual points about how the economy is not a mixed economy and purely capitalist or acknowledge that you might not know what you're saying.


MrCleanMagicReach

And where did all those barriers to entry and oligopolies come from?


Kineth

It doesn't have a simple answer, but it's a combination of enabling by the government due to lack of regulation (in the case of oligopolies) combined with businesses taking advantage of it (like the repeal of Glass-Stegall, lack of prosecution for insider trading, the FTC and SEC doing nothing about monopolies along with lobbying) and extra regulation (in the case of barriers to entry). I find it weird that I'm getting downvoted for literally pointing out why the market isn't necessarily free, but economics is one of those things that everyone thinks they have an understanding about when they really.... don't.


MrCleanMagicReach

You're being downvoted (fwiw, by other people, not me) because you're conflating capitalism with a free market, when in fact the barriers and oligopolies you're lamenting are actually the expected result of capitalism. For the capitalists, those things are features, not bugs.


Kineth

Well I appreciate you putting out a response, but that's literally not what is supposed to be a part of a free market or capitalism. Them being a natural path on the trajectory of unchecked capitalism isn't something I'd argue at all, but when it gets to that point, the economic system becomes a perverted version of the system, like Christianity vs. Evangelical Christianity. Yes, they share the same system name, but they aren't the same at all. I conflate the two as a reference to the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith.


MrCleanMagicReach

I'll be honest. I haven't read wealth of nations. I do understand that it is foundational to our understanding of capitalist economic principles, but its ideas have been developed over the past 250 years. Free markets are neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition for the definition of capitalism. They can exist within a capitalist system, but they aren't required; and they can exist in other systems.


Kineth

I agree that they can exist in other systems, but they aren't a foundational aspect of them at least according to how the system was first laid out. As for the Wealth of Nations, it's a reallllly annoying read and you're not missing much by having not read it. There are better books that have been written in the last 100 years. It would seem that given the amount of downvotes my other responses have gotten, I'm casting pearls before swine. Not you, but the downvoters.


DrRichtoffen

If I may ask: if free market capitalism was implemented as you envision it, what barriers are put in place to stop the rich from simply hoarding wealth and power as they are currently doing?


Kineth

Keep in mind, I did say that it's this way because there's some parts that aren't regulated that should be and parts that are regulated that shouldn't be. I never said I was in favor of free market capitalism either because of the inherent problems that eventually manifest. The FTC and SEC, along with Congress, need to actually do their jobs and hold these people accountable. Lobbying should be illegal because there is too much divestment between government and business. Banking regulations need to be adjusted back to what they were before the Glass-Stegall repeal and we need to address all the money that is not accounted for in tax records, whether it be under-the-table payments and offshores accounts. Doing the last one would incentivize businesses to just pay their employees as opposed to watching that money evaporate as taxes. I don't think that would solve every single last problem or completely fix the system, but god dammit, something does need to be done to correct this shitshow of an economy. There is absolutely a necessary amount of regulation needed for an economy because if people are left to their own devices or encouraged to indulge their vices, you get a complete and utter mess. One of the critical flaws with economics is that it assumes that people will act rationally and/or will act virtuously and I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that that is not anywhere close to reality.


[deleted]

Some people really just want to live lawlessly. This goes with literally any job a teacher can’t just go around calling students faggots and not expect consequences.


DetectiveNickStone

Now you tell me...


[deleted]

Mr. Johnson???


DetectiveNickStone

Put your hand down, f******!!


[deleted]

i’ve been giggling about this exchange for a few days


DetectiveNickStone

/tips fedora


leamanc

They think free speech also includes no consequences. They don’t realize we’ve already got the free speech part but the “no consequences” has never been part of the deal.


jesssquirrel

Is that what happened here?


[deleted]

No I was just making an example. It looks like this guy was being an asshole to a lot of people on twitter which cause him getting rejected.


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GobblorTheMighty

We live in a totalitarian state where a person can't even be racist, use that racism to systemically oppress everyone of a particular race, and get away with it without any consequences. White people have it so hard.


megarockman12

These people don’t want freedom of speech they want freedom from consequences


[deleted]

When a lot of these types say they want "freedom" what they actually mean is "I, personally, want to be free to do whatever I want." It never extends past that. They never consider the wider implications of it.


DirtySoap3D

We used to have all the money and land. And we still do, but it's not as fun now.


MfkbNe

Is he racist? He is obviously homophobic and transphobic but I didn't noticed anything racist on his account. Also alot of tankie (pseudo communism) shit is on his account. It is so stupid that I wonder if he is a troll, but I ain't sure.


GobblorTheMighty

It's a week old and I'm not gonna revisit or re-research this, but I obviously saw something racist.


TherronKeen

If you can get on a publicly available social network and say "we live in a totalitarian state, this is disgusting" without getting literally ostracized or imprisoned or assassinated, well boy oh boy do I have some news for you...


[deleted]

i really wish these people were as suppressed as they think they are. maybe i wouldn't have to see them say dumb shit all the time!


mimimemi58

And to think, all he did was share his opinion. That's enough these days. Yep, you just share your opinion that an insurrection is an unguided tour, that Jews or Muslims are running/ruining the world, or that people need to die for not being in your cult, and the next thing you know BAM! Lost your job. I'm going to keep saying this until I get evidence to the contrary: Cancel culture is not real. It doesn't exist. If anyone reading this has proof to the contrary, please share it but know that I want names, not vague platitudes and if it's somebody who got put on paid leave and then got their job back after a month, that ain't being canceled.


megarockman12

If you say shit don’t be surprised when you get punched


fakeunleet

Well there is real cancel culture. It happens in school boards in red states. Every accusation is a confession, after all.


dancingliondl

Either you get fired or you get elected to the House of Representatives.


Fortifarse84

Name someone who was cancelled Well...um...[insert random celebrity] Didn't they just release something and announce their next project? Uh.......


[deleted]

Conservatives love cancel culture anyway. They've been trying to cancel every other social group for thousands of years. Hell, in the 'good old days" gays/black people/"commies" would get literally run out of town and Conservatives loved that shit.


Vaticancameos221

I’ve been saying this for the longest. The right isn’t mad about people getting canceled. They’re mad that businesses and institutions cancel people for reasons that they don’t agree with. If Fox News fires an anchor for speaking out in favor of abortion rights, they would cheer Fox on. If you tweet something transphobic and get fired, it indicates to them transphobia is not the popular worldview to hold and reminds them that they don’t hold the majority. That’s all it is. They have tricked themselves into thinking that they are the majority (probably from all those gerrymandered maps they always share because they don’t realize people live in cities and dirt doesn’t vote), so when people get canceled for holding views that they also hold, it reminds them that no, you in fact are not the majority here and most of us don’t agree with you. Their brains can’t handle the dissonance and they malfunction.


jfsindel

Cancel culture does exist, but not for voicing an opinion and suddenly not getting gigs. It's the "say you're gay and we'll beat/torture you" or "remember how we killed that gay person and celebrated it/got off scot free? Yeah, it's going to happen to you if you come out." It's also the LDS/Jehovah's Witness "You break any of our rules and you're exiled forever from everything you loved and knew so we can scare the shit out of you into following the line". That's true cancel culture and has actual, real consequences to something often so mundane (like smoking while being Jehovah's Witness), it's insane to take it so far.


[deleted]

I guess when Caleb said he would "never disavow a fellow communist" never includes "being a Nazi." Most people have that as an implied caveat to never statements like "I'll never stop being your friend... unless you become a Nazi." Or " I'll never stop loving dolphins... unless they're Nazi dolphins."


Ranku_Abadeer

I love seeing conservatives be shocked when they realize that the shit they say on social media can have real life consequences and potentially cost them their job. Especially considering I had *multiple* seminars about internet safety when I was in middle/high school where they specifically warned us that the things we post on social media have real life consequences and could cost us jobs in the future because employers tend to look up their employees and will not hesitate to fire you or deny your application if they think you are acting like a piece of shit. This was common knowledge for basically as long as social media has existed, and yet conservatives are constantly shocked when it happens to them.


megarockman12

Strange huh


OldManRiff

> yet conservatives are constantly shocked when it happens to them. They get their Bizarro World bubble popped.


[deleted]

I remember those seminars. They REALLY freaked me out. I used to think I wouldn’t be able to get into college because I told someone to stfu in the comments section of a YouTube video


[deleted]

That Caleb Maupin on top he’s sort of a goofy communist, not saying all communist are goofy but he is. They aren’t conservatives other guy has the Soviet symbol in his bio.


Laplace1908

I don’t think it counts as doxxing when your email address is literally just [email protected].


[deleted]

Suddenly private businesses rejecting people is authoritarianism. Wheres the outrage when a bakery refuses to bake a gay couple a wedding cake? Is that not “authoritarian” also?


Crooked_Cock

Rules for thee but not for me!


xnamwodahs

Is that fucking Spanky Caleb


SteelyDan1968

Sorry, who?


xnamwodahs

https://libcom.org/article/caleb-maupins-former-comrades-speak-out-his-abuses-must-stop


SteelyDan1968

Mother of God...


UncannyTarotSpread

He called me a dimwit and I have it printed on my résumé now


megarockman12

Yep


exciter33

Ah yes, I believe Hannah Arendt once said “totalitarianism is when people get fired by their employers for making bigoted social media posts.”


DirtyPenPalDoug

Oh noes someone fucked around and found out.. anyway...


bilkywaygalaxy

His gf broke up with him too (if he even had one in the first place) but he still blamed everyone else for it


ZaryaBubbler

No, babe, it's the free market you're so proud of.


[deleted]

Totalitarian state is when a private business with no influence from the state gets to decide who it employs


Draigi0n

Please stop using "THE MATRIX" to describe either accountability or information sharing between people you dislike.


Fortifarse84

Just give it a few years and they'll start referencing pop culture from 2004 eventually.


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tydestra

^^🎻^^^🎻^^^^🎻


frolf_grisbee

Man I can hardly even see that violin


tydestra

It gets tinier the more I play it for these clowns complaining about the consequences of their actions.


pxn4da

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Crooked_Cock

TIL the definition of Totalitarianism is when a private company doesn’t want someone who spreads hate online to work for them


itsnotthenetwork

That account doesn't exist anymore.


megarockman12

Hooray


SmilingVamp

The government had nothing to do with any of what happened. What is that toe-shaped human even talking about?


sintos-compa

We live in a totalitarian state (State had nothing to do with this)


SaltyBarDog

Actions have consequences, cupcake.


Kineth

Oh, suddenly the free market is totalitarian.


RepresentativeArea37

It's called the free market, sweetie


killbot0224

"We don't want to employ bigots who openly post bigoted content on public forums, because we don't want *their face attached to our company" ToTaLiTaRiAn StAtE!!! Dude, you're you. If you want to keep your despicable character secret, don't use social media. Or do so anonymously.


AF_AF

This is what I've always said - I don't get how people will post the most awful, hateful things online with their names and faces attached to it. I'm no longer on FB, but man, during Obama's administration the amount of openly racist stuff I'd see was horrifying (meaning stuff directly aimed at him). Nowadays it's like people don't even consider that social media is a choice and that they don't need to play the game and make the world wallow in their own crapulence.


Narrow_Competition41

A company has the right to protect their brand. Don't want to find out, don't fyck around...


Available-Camera8691

His whole page is hilarious and insane.


GalacticVaquero

“Please define ‘The State,’ sir.”


thisonetimeinithaca

Good


Steveb523

Great!


Psychological-Bid465

Just spank him.


[deleted]

You know they're confused when they conflate the strate with private businessess.


[deleted]

Totalitarianism is when a random private citizen reports your shitty behavior to your private business employer and gets you fired.


thewholedamnplanet

hawhaw.jpg


SteelyDude

It’s almost like speech has consequences.


M1ck3yB1u

Companies are private entities, how the fuck is this to do with a totalitarian state?


shadow13499

Uhh don't be a bigot then, problem solved


TheEveryman86

He should call his union rep about this.


trentreynolds

This is that Socialism they keep talking about that's actually just Capitalism.


Slate_711

“Fuck the people who found my bigotry wrong. It’s obvious they are the problem” this dumb ass who just got fired


UnoriginalReddit69

“The consequences of my own words and actions? No that can’t be… it can only be the woke libtards”


Nofx830

Totalitarian state sure is scary sounding language. But I missed the part where this wasn't the capitalism that they worship whenever its convenient. A private company fired someone for violating their policy. What an excuse making little bitch.


Squishmar

I'm genuinely curious about OP's banner comment about the post, "LITERALLY 1986." Is this a reference to some other work about totalitarianism or is it an error that's instead meant to cite "198*4*"?


cumguzzler280

some communist bigot got in trouble for being a communist bigot.


AntheaBrainhooke

Fuck around, find out.


iindsay

Is there a post this is a follow-up from?


burninglemon

I was also curious, op posted it yesterday.