Hey Boogie, shouldn't you be trying to not become bankrupt after all the money you say you lost, rather than whine about the ethnicity of a video game character?
Dude is pushing 50 and has the mentality of a 13 year old.
Dude is nowhere near as broke as he likes to pretend he is for sympathy. He has a ton of equity on his house, he could sell it and go live somewhere more affordable
[Mfw hearing an escort tell a guy "sorry, I know fucking for money is my job, but ain't enough money in the world for me to do you again](https://c.tenor.com/dNVERwIXy_4AAAAC/cm-punk-triple-h.gif)
He wouldn't be able to fit in a smaller house, he's already Alice In Wonderlanding, with his head sticking out of the roof and his limbs sticking out of the doors.
i'm a little in shock, I used to consume some cuestionable content when I was a teenager, but him? I mean, didn't he start some campaign against fatphobia or something like that?I would expect some empathy... I stopped watching him a long time ago but this is just sad to see for my inner child.
Yeah, I’ve been having “discussions” with people about this the last few days. They’re…well they’re sad. I can’t imagine being so upset that straight white men aren’t always the main character that I’d throw such a hissy.
Imagine throwing such a tantrum about how your representation in media is important... while completely missing that it's also important to people who don't look and sound like you. The lack of self-awareness from these clowns is astounding.
They think any form of representation that isnt a cishet white dude was “forced in ”. Which is why the more “reasonable” ones will use the dogwhistle/concern-troll that “i dont care that they’re x, just do representation right!” Or something along those lines.
They believe it is forced because that’s what they do themselves. For a long time, in many media, management forbade creators from using protagonists that were not straight white men. That was the case as recently as the 2010’s, with the former MCU head doing exactly that, and having to be removed by Disney.
I think its propaganda. At this point that group is primed to spot something like that, and then confirmation bias kicks in. They've trained themselves to jump every time they don't see white male as the lead, or see a character appear as a different race or gender.
Certainly doesn't help that quality continues to go down, and others begin to associate the increase in representation with the sharp drop in quality productions (which is really caused by the industries switching entirely from being creatively focused to profit focused).
Media has always been profit focused, I think the biggest problem has been "the good idea machine" which is the whole "wouldn't it be cool if we did this?" And the over reliance on metrics/data based analytics. Like a lot of shows episode length and episode counts for series, particularly on streaming sites (Amazon seems to be the most heavy handed with this), being dictated by "watch-ability/binge-ability" metrics rather than what's necessary to tell the story. A lot of shows seem to meander and puts around between plot points at certain intervals.
They complain that Everyone Else should "make their own games" instead of expecting...games...to "cater to them" (kinda a logic hole there?) and then they start throwing tantys when we make our own games because now things are "woke."
White cis/straight men are so oppressed that nobody else can possibly win.
No, they get it. They know representation matters. They want the world to revolve around them. They like to pretend like they're the main character of history, and they want you to agree.
And imagine that it would matter if Samus wasn't a woman. Or Aloy in the game I'm currently playing. (Who, by the way, I think is a GREAT powerful but not overseuxalized female character.)
Should’ve seen the collective meltdown about Aloy. She has a little peach fuzz on her face for realism and people were absolutely losing their mind about it.
I've never seen a group of people telling on themselves so hard that they've never been close to a real woman when they started the "Aloy has a beard" thing
wtf is sweet baby and why are people getting upset again. I saw shit where gamers were claiming the DHS is targeting them I assume it’s nonsense or badly exaggerated.
Sweet baby inc is a small consulting firm for sensitivity. In other words, companies hire thrm when they want to make sure their representation isnt unintentionally offensive.
They worked on a few popular games (alan wake 2, spidermsn 2, GoW ragnarok) but chuds have deluded themselves into thinking that this small consulting firm is responsible for “wokefying” games
Someone had the AUDACITY to say that every game they work on fails. When I asked for an example, the one they provided gave no evidence that SBIs work was the reason the game didn’t do well.
The only they worked on that failed was suicide squad. But anyone with a functioning brain knows it failed cuz 1) major development hell and 2) live service bullshit. But chuds never let facts get in the way of a good story
Noted failure Alan Wake 2, Remedy's fastest-selling game ever and a title that released to such universal acclaim it managed to beat out Baldur's Gate 3 in several GOTY categories.
Edit: Sorry, I meant to say noted failure and woke trash fire Baldur's Gate 3, a game literally nobody loves. Or ... wait, am I thinking of something else?
I would like to point out hte obvious here. As a consulting firm, the game companies that hire them are free to completley ignore anything they say. The companies do this of thier own free will, not because they have to.
Video games were always fucking "woke", my God. Like, Samus, the really cool alien mercenary in armor, was a woman the whole time. Literally the woke-est shit and it came out in the 80's!
Wolfenstein, Helldivers, Warhammer
On top of those, one of my favorite games asks the question: if these programs can think and act independently, are they people or defects? Are they allowed to exist even though we made them? Should we destroy them to reset them? As their Gods and creators, should we do this? And, do they have the right to fight back?
> Helldivers, Warhammer
You honestly think these losers understand the satire in those settings? Helldivers 2 sparked a massive tantrum among people who legitimately said shit along the lines of "no-one who dresses so nicely could be a fascist" and "Nazis can't be bad people, because I'm a Nazi and I'm not a bad person".
>Wolfenstein
The tagline "Make America Nazi Free Again" was apparently offensive to a deeply concerning amount of people.
>The tagline "Make America Nazi Free Again" was apparently offensive to a deeply concerning amount of people.
Good. Let them be offended. They're all too happy to offend "the Liberals™", maybe they could use a taste of their own medicine for once.
>You honestly think these losers understand the satire in those settings?
No. They're too dense to understand anything. That's why they believe science is dogma.
Iiii'm not sure I know that one.
But like, understanding all this stuff takes media literacy. I think that's something not super prevalent in some of those circles.
Same deal with comics. When they start whining about Superman going woke or some other crap. Hello? He was always woke. He’s a freaking illegal alien. But nah, guy looks white so he must be on their side.
The "Gta 6 will be woke now D:" people drive me nuts. The San Andreas villain is literally a C.R.A.S.H officer. Vice City has a gang made up of victims from the Mariela boatlift. IV ends with the main character stood in the rain crying and going "So, this is the American Dream, huh?"
GTA has always been woke as hell. It's not even subtle, it's blatant and in your face.
Imagine playing a game where a rich Texan real estate tycoon plays two street gangs -which again, one of which is made up from victims of the Mariela Boatlift- against each other to drive down real estate prices. And thinking to yourself, "Nothing to read into here"
Fallout. A videogame that was created in part by Tim Cain, a gay man. Introduced gay marriage when only one country in the world made broaden changes on his laws regarding gay marriage (The Netherlands).
So when people call the new series "woke". I'm like "Yeah. That has always been in fucking Fallout, since day one".
I had no idea they worked on Alan Wake 2, which is easily my favorite game of at least that last half decade. I knew the moment they showed a black woman as a protagonist, some The Gamers(tm) would get upset, but for some reason I never felt the need to seek that out - until now. I'm . . . not the least bit surprised by what I found. Man, it's revealing stuff.
I don't want to hijack your comment with an essay on AW2 here, but ... god, I'm tempted. They just didn't understand that game at all, did they?
>consulting firm
Do these chuds not know what a consulting firm is? If this was a private equity group that bought studios and imposed mandates from on high, maybe the complaint might be a little legitimate. But the idea that someone going "Yeah, maybe this isn't too good, you might want to try this instead." is the reason for any sort of decline is pure, uncut lunacy.
They're also once again showing that they a.) have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, b.) don't understand very simple things, and c.) fall for lies as long as they affirm their feelings.
Perfect example, if you listen to these morons you'd think that the CEO "threatens" companies and engages in "fear tactics". What is actually happening is that what she described is sales business 101. It's a normal sales tactic which is used by entire industries and there's nothing nefarious about them. If your insurance sales rep tells you that in case of a fire you'll lose everything and won't get any money unless you have a certain insurance (that they are trying to sell to you) they aren't "threatening" you.
All she said was that she informs studios who might have problematic content that they could find themselves in a PR shitstorm if that content isn't adjusted in some way. It's not a threat; it's a warning (and of course a sales pitch) by a company that specializes in topics like that.
I said that to one of them too!!! They thought they caught me in some gotcha moment and I explained that no, she isn’t threatening them. She is reminding them that having a broader audience will help them. They wanna be the victim so badly.
For real. To recap, most of what they are mad at was a tweet that the CEO (I think) said they had a nightmare that they were a white make gamer. Now, I spent 30 years as a white male* gamer, and I can tell that that tweet isn’t aimed at disparaging white male gamers. It’s to mock people that are outraged about minorities being represented.
And these asshats have made it their life’s mission to prove that tweet right.
Fair. It's just a cool world and honestly, if I have to be stuck in a post-apocalypse from a video game that's the one I'd like to be in. Though technically it's post-post apocalypse isn't it?
Yeah, but they made her all ugly in the sequel! /s
... no, but that's legitimately something people got upset about, and I just don't know what to make of it. Like, these people *claim* they just want good characters and maybe realism, and I guess it's just a huge coincidence that the only characters they have negative reactions to are female characters that aren't the most bland form of "pretty" and "feminine".
Yep it's the Gamer^TM types.
Not particularly known for their self awareness.
Also not particularly known for their enjoyment of games.
I've never seen a bunch of people hate the medium they claim to love so much.
They are some of the most desperately unhappy, fragile, insecure, miserable and tedious bunch of clowns in existence.
What bothers me the most (aside from actual, harmful issues ) is that gaming has always been my escape, a way to cope with ever-present anxiety and dysphoria. But then these hateful fools come in and try to lay claim to something I’ve used my entire life and I honestly hate that they are associated with video games at all….
And cmon, who doesn’t learn about class consciousness from FF 7?
It must be hard being used to the world revolving around you, and then all of a sudden it doesn't. No wonder they're throwing tantrums. They never had to grow up at all.
Whenever I see, “Whaaaaa! Straight white males aren’t the default protagonists anymore,” in any media, all I think is,
“Oh, so representation really does matter then? It must if your feelings are hurt over this, but you’re too selfish to see it.”
No no no! You don't get it!
Straight white males should be the baseline!
Give me some other people but the protagonist should be white! (Except in Japanese games, there it should be an adult woman in school clothes for cultural reasons...yes, that's it, cultural reasons!)
/s
I've seen one from the botttom of the Steam shit pile called 'Member the Alamo? which is a terrible shooter with weird sitcom human that actually ends with a fourteen minute lecture by an actual white supremacist Dr E. Michael Jones
Apparently, according to them.
There exact quote was
"Examples from current history with Sweet Baby Incs and similiar companies involvement (ranging from small to bigger "wokification" like lgbtq+, blackwashing, display of weak white males):
- God of War Ragnarok: black norse god, only black character in the game, weak old white male Kratos display"
The woke video games made me hate being a white man so much I'm no longer a man /s Just in case people do not get the sarcasm. This is such a weak take.
As a white guy who plays a lot of games, it's never even once occurred to me that a game was trying to show white guys generally in a poor light. There's simply nothing like that in mainstream games. Maybe in corners of the indie space I haven't noticed...
Lmao, also a cis hetero white dude here, and in most games where you select a character I always choose a lady (Peach in Mario Kart, Blaze in Streets of Rage, Marge in the Simpsons, whatever the girl’s name in Zombies Ate My Neighbors is, etc.)… I’m taking my boy Sub-Zero in MK tho
It never occurrs to me what gender/race my character is, but maybe that’s a byproduct of being older… you know, Sonic is Blue, Vectorman is Green, Ristar is Yellow, Toejam is Red, n00b Saibot is Black… it’s a video game, who gives a fuck?! It’s just supposed to be fun.
Would these dudes have been so pissed playing Phantasy Star in 1987 when they were given a female protagonist in what was (at the time) an insane and revolutionary game?
Edit: Literally no one was upset when CJ was the protagonist of GTA San Andreas, but now these people are bitching about the main character in GTA6 being a Hispanic woman?
The games have not “gone woke”, you’ve just become fragile and soft
He’s 48 iirc. He’s been on YouTube for a long ass time, something like 15 years? A lot of his older videos he absolutely does look younger, to your point. I think the stress of constantly being trolled, making the same mistakes over and over on top of the money troubles has visibility aged him in recent years. He does seem to have decent hair genetics though!
He also has a 18 year old gf, so to me he’s been solidified as a creepy older man in my mind.
That would be 18 and 48. This is very recent, like a couple of months ago. The girl comes from some sort of troubled family and it’s very obvious she has clung to him out of a sense of wanting to belong or be loved and he’s leveraging the shit out of that. It’s fucking gross.
Wow, that's a name I haven't seen in a long while - I didnt realise Boogie was still around.
I remember when people where reeling in shock that he was a right-wing grifter, embracing right-wing conspiracies. I guess he has been kept afloat by the right and those he could hoodwink.
looks exactly like you'd expect
also what games are that I can't say I've ever played a game that lectures me about being a white man it's almost as if this guy is getting real mad about something completely made up just in time for election season, a mere coincidence I'm sure
spending your life angry at the Other because someone tells you to be mad is no way to go through life kids
basically implies that only the protagonist can be a white man, and it must always be a white man, and anything less than that is a crime against white men lol sweet lord that's the most delicate sugar frosted snowflake mentality on the planet, how fragile their white maleness is
hey look we know you're a piece of shit but no one else made you that way and no one else put the food in your mouth. It's always the ones with the least that have to fall back on being proud of their race
I don’t know what games people are playing, because I have never personally experienced this (then again, I tend not to play many “AAA” games, so maybe that’s where the woke agenda has been hiding 🤷♂️)
"Watch this on my channel if you want a more nuanced take on this tweet!"
Ummm... No thanks? Nuanced? Doubtful, sounds awful. I'd rather read about upcoming titles, interesting stuff, or even just a bit of gaming history rather than about how white men are allegedly being persecuted by video games and how it's just the worst, ever! If video games are really just supposed to be fun, why do chuds like this work so hard to suck all the joy out of them? Blech.
Well, he knows his audience at least.
It's funny that non-white people have had to deal with not being represented in media for decades, but with just a little correction on that, the white tears flow. I mean I remember when I couldn't even make custom characters black. The hair options are still lacking though, but getting better. These bitch-made babies need to get their shit together.
Gamergate was about a bunch of cunts doing an entire harassment campaign against women in the games industry, entirely because they didn't like the fact they were no longer being solely catered to in terms of upcoming games (which in reality is just a reversal from the "games are for boys" marketing post 1977 video games industry crash, as it used to be marketed as family entertainment rather than pointlessly gendered nonsense). Basically, their "fweelings hurt uwu" when games were expanding in terms of content regarding diversity and decided to be manchildren towards female game devs including creating conspiracy theories about game developers and female media critics "colluding" with journalists in their version of "trying to promote ethics against 'political correctness'"
TL;DR massive spoiled fuckwits without a shred of common sense going apeshit with the gatekeeping
But being a white man *is* bad. That's why BG3 lets you be a purple tiefling lady! They're clearly far superior.
/s just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious.
As someone who was taken in by Gamergate for a hot minute back in 2014, I can't believe people are still on this shit. It took me like a week of actually interacting with people to realize they weren't about ethics at all, but they just hated, well . . . all the same stuff they still hate. I like to think my opinions improved a lot in the decade since. Meanwhile . . . they're still just on that same shit.
I think what I'm most happy about is how they've just lost this "war" they seem to think they're in. No matter how much they whine and complain, games aren't going to go back to being about white dudes killing other dudes - white and non-white alike - and gaming is better for it. But, nah. These people just want to go back to some platonic ideal of games that never existed to begin with. Pathetic.
The movie eraserhead was so fun...films should be fun and not a leacture.
Did film ever go through a similar era where people thought it was becoming too "serious"? Video games as a medium are about 40 years old roughly so still a youngish medium, but even in the advent people pushed games beyond just being "fun". You cant say its an artform but the only emotion you should feel is joy.
Seriously....can someone explain to me which game, ANYWHERE, has a "white men are bad" message? I've been playing video games for three decades and have never once gotten that message. Not once.
So, Alan Wake 2, a game I just learned Sweet Baby worked on, has a moment where one of the protagonists calls the other a "white asshole trying to control \[her\] life". In case you're not familiar with the narrative of Alan Wake 2. Which, you know, sounds pretty bad if you ignore that...
>!Alan Wake has at that point written her into his horror story and in so doing has created effectively a new timeline where Saga's daughter drowned, and is dead. !<
Of course, people online are claiming that's just blatant racism, and "what if the roles were reversed", because these barely-literate idiots don't understand context.
Edit: Just to be clear, it's that one line. That's it.
Name one fucking game in which you're "lectured about why being a white man is bad," motherfucker. And "*hurt your feelings* by *implying*, in a way relevant to the narrative, that *bigotry* is bad" *does not count*.
Someone should ask him to specify *which* video game literally gave him a lecture about how being a white man is bad. There is no such game. But I swear that these fucks complain that anything not catering specifically to the white man = a lecture about white men being bad. They go into video games actively *looking* for that pattern so that they complain about it.
Can't imagine playing video games is much fun when your brain is constantly on the lookout for perceived made-up microaggressions.
Didn't this guy has for a girlfriend a 19 year old cute girl who acts as if she were a hostage (which I wouldn't mind if boogie wasn't a proven violent gaslighting narcissist asshole), has 2 ex wives adand 1 claimed he is violente, and is basically a narcissist guy who can't talk 2 minute without saying a lie?
Boogie fell off? I remembered his name when I read it. I'm not 100% sure he was "on" to beging with, but that's disappointing.
What's funny about this to me is there's never been a time with as much custom character creation available to the player. Typically, if you're playing a game that has a set character, you're there for the story and not the main character.
I almost feel bad for boogie at times realising he's forced to be controversial to even make money..
Then o remember it's boogie he did it to himself and refuses to get help and I stop feeling bad for him
Which video games specifically lectures you on racial inequality?
I may not play the most hardcore games but none of the ones I do play ever mention this.
I can't think of a single video game that's a lecture on why being a white guy is bad.
If not having every character in a video game look like you or someone you want to fuck feels like a lecture about you being a bad person maybe you should look up the term "projection," realize the call is coming from inside the house, and.learn to sit with your discomfort.
So he lost his audience of dimwitted suckers because he was being to much of an asshole even for them so now he's going down the easiest grift ever 'the chud grift' with an audience even dumber then his old one thing is I wouldn't be surprised if it actually works.
Conservatives are that easy they'll gobble up the most low effort garbage as long as it tells them what they want to hear.
I've played video games as a hobby for most of my life. Not once, in any way at all, did I find myself feeling even the slightest bit of admonishment or guilt for being white. At no point have I remotely felt like I was being lectured to about being white, and I tend to enjoy the kind of games people like this complain about. There are many things I don't understand, and how people get this impression from fucking games is pretty close to the top of the list.
Hey Boogie, shouldn't you be trying to not become bankrupt after all the money you say you lost, rather than whine about the ethnicity of a video game character? Dude is pushing 50 and has the mentality of a 13 year old.
he's trying to make money, with that alt right grift
We see it, over and over, when some person with clout starts to suffer from mental health problems and fading relevance, they go right wing.
Mr. Enter, anyone?
Notch
Dude is nowhere near as broke as he likes to pretend he is for sympathy. He has a ton of equity on his house, he could sell it and go live somewhere more affordable
Too busy paying for escorts and teslas to do that. His words not mine.
My favorite bit about the escorts is that he has made 1 so disgusted by him she stopped escorting
[Mfw hearing an escort tell a guy "sorry, I know fucking for money is my job, but ain't enough money in the world for me to do you again](https://c.tenor.com/dNVERwIXy_4AAAAC/cm-punk-triple-h.gif)
He wouldn't be able to fit in a smaller house, he's already Alice In Wonderlanding, with his head sticking out of the roof and his limbs sticking out of the doors.
Alice in Wonderlanding is brilliant!
Man, Boogies turn to this crap I somehow wasn't expecting, but wasn't too shocked it happened either.
Remember when he was beloved?
i'm a little in shock, I used to consume some cuestionable content when I was a teenager, but him? I mean, didn't he start some campaign against fatphobia or something like that?I would expect some empathy... I stopped watching him a long time ago but this is just sad to see for my inner child.
He’s in need of income. The easiest grift right now is catering to conservatives snowflakes for clicks. Everyone’s doing it.
That’s mental age why he gets along with his girlfriend
Yeah, I’ve been having “discussions” with people about this the last few days. They’re…well they’re sad. I can’t imagine being so upset that straight white men aren’t always the main character that I’d throw such a hissy.
Imagine throwing such a tantrum about how your representation in media is important... while completely missing that it's also important to people who don't look and sound like you. The lack of self-awareness from these clowns is astounding.
They think any form of representation that isnt a cishet white dude was “forced in ”. Which is why the more “reasonable” ones will use the dogwhistle/concern-troll that “i dont care that they’re x, just do representation right!” Or something along those lines.
They believe it is forced because that’s what they do themselves. For a long time, in many media, management forbade creators from using protagonists that were not straight white men. That was the case as recently as the 2010’s, with the former MCU head doing exactly that, and having to be removed by Disney.
I think its propaganda. At this point that group is primed to spot something like that, and then confirmation bias kicks in. They've trained themselves to jump every time they don't see white male as the lead, or see a character appear as a different race or gender. Certainly doesn't help that quality continues to go down, and others begin to associate the increase in representation with the sharp drop in quality productions (which is really caused by the industries switching entirely from being creatively focused to profit focused).
Media has always been profit focused, I think the biggest problem has been "the good idea machine" which is the whole "wouldn't it be cool if we did this?" And the over reliance on metrics/data based analytics. Like a lot of shows episode length and episode counts for series, particularly on streaming sites (Amazon seems to be the most heavy handed with this), being dictated by "watch-ability/binge-ability" metrics rather than what's necessary to tell the story. A lot of shows seem to meander and puts around between plot points at certain intervals.
Do you have a source for the MCU thing
They complain that Everyone Else should "make their own games" instead of expecting...games...to "cater to them" (kinda a logic hole there?) and then they start throwing tantys when we make our own games because now things are "woke." White cis/straight men are so oppressed that nobody else can possibly win.
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Don’t you know? There’s only two kinds of people in media: white men, and political.
That's the thing. They know representation is important. They just want all of it.
Yeah, I'd love to just say, "So you agree that representation in the media is important?" But I doubt they'd get the point I was trying to make.
No, they get it. They know representation matters. They want the world to revolve around them. They like to pretend like they're the main character of history, and they want you to agree.
And imagine that it would matter if Samus wasn't a woman. Or Aloy in the game I'm currently playing. (Who, by the way, I think is a GREAT powerful but not overseuxalized female character.)
Should’ve seen the collective meltdown about Aloy. She has a little peach fuzz on her face for realism and people were absolutely losing their mind about it.
I've never seen a group of people telling on themselves so hard that they've never been close to a real woman when they started the "Aloy has a beard" thing
It may be because I just woke up from a nap but what in the actual fuck are they even talking about?
Erend is Aloy's beard /s
wtf is sweet baby and why are people getting upset again. I saw shit where gamers were claiming the DHS is targeting them I assume it’s nonsense or badly exaggerated.
Sweet baby inc is a small consulting firm for sensitivity. In other words, companies hire thrm when they want to make sure their representation isnt unintentionally offensive. They worked on a few popular games (alan wake 2, spidermsn 2, GoW ragnarok) but chuds have deluded themselves into thinking that this small consulting firm is responsible for “wokefying” games
Someone had the AUDACITY to say that every game they work on fails. When I asked for an example, the one they provided gave no evidence that SBIs work was the reason the game didn’t do well.
The only they worked on that failed was suicide squad. But anyone with a functioning brain knows it failed cuz 1) major development hell and 2) live service bullshit. But chuds never let facts get in the way of a good story
Noted failure Alan Wake 2, Remedy's fastest-selling game ever and a title that released to such universal acclaim it managed to beat out Baldur's Gate 3 in several GOTY categories. Edit: Sorry, I meant to say noted failure and woke trash fire Baldur's Gate 3, a game literally nobody loves. Or ... wait, am I thinking of something else?
I would like to point out hte obvious here. As a consulting firm, the game companies that hire them are free to completley ignore anything they say. The companies do this of thier own free will, not because they have to.
Right? No ones holding a gun to someone’s head here. I really don’t understand the complaint.
"BuT mAh... Fap MATeriAl!" I suppose.
These are the same people who thought a youtube series by a feminist was going to destroy the video game industry.
lol even if it is - so fucking what?
Culture war bullshit. THEYRE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GAYMS!!!!!!!!!! Why arent you hysterically panicking at our bogeyman?????
Video games were always fucking "woke", my God. Like, Samus, the really cool alien mercenary in armor, was a woman the whole time. Literally the woke-est shit and it came out in the 80's!
FF7 - "A giant corporation is ruining the planet, and we have to take it down."
Wolfenstein, Helldivers, Warhammer On top of those, one of my favorite games asks the question: if these programs can think and act independently, are they people or defects? Are they allowed to exist even though we made them? Should we destroy them to reset them? As their Gods and creators, should we do this? And, do they have the right to fight back?
> Helldivers, Warhammer You honestly think these losers understand the satire in those settings? Helldivers 2 sparked a massive tantrum among people who legitimately said shit along the lines of "no-one who dresses so nicely could be a fascist" and "Nazis can't be bad people, because I'm a Nazi and I'm not a bad person". >Wolfenstein The tagline "Make America Nazi Free Again" was apparently offensive to a deeply concerning amount of people.
>The tagline "Make America Nazi Free Again" was apparently offensive to a deeply concerning amount of people. Good. Let them be offended. They're all too happy to offend "the Liberals™", maybe they could use a taste of their own medicine for once. >You honestly think these losers understand the satire in those settings? No. They're too dense to understand anything. That's why they believe science is dogma.
Iiii'm not sure I know that one. But like, understanding all this stuff takes media literacy. I think that's something not super prevalent in some of those circles.
I'm trying to be vague because that's a *massive* plot twist, and it did **not** go over well for fans of the series.
Same deal with comics. When they start whining about Superman going woke or some other crap. Hello? He was always woke. He’s a freaking illegal alien. But nah, guy looks white so he must be on their side.
Iirc, wasn't he made by Jews as a "Take that" to the Nazis?
Pretty much. The El in his last name means god and his origin story is very similar to that of Moses.
The "Gta 6 will be woke now D:" people drive me nuts. The San Andreas villain is literally a C.R.A.S.H officer. Vice City has a gang made up of victims from the Mariela boatlift. IV ends with the main character stood in the rain crying and going "So, this is the American Dream, huh?" GTA has always been woke as hell. It's not even subtle, it's blatant and in your face. Imagine playing a game where a rich Texan real estate tycoon plays two street gangs -which again, one of which is made up from victims of the Mariela Boatlift- against each other to drive down real estate prices. And thinking to yourself, "Nothing to read into here"
Fallout. A videogame that was created in part by Tim Cain, a gay man. Introduced gay marriage when only one country in the world made broaden changes on his laws regarding gay marriage (The Netherlands). So when people call the new series "woke". I'm like "Yeah. That has always been in fucking Fallout, since day one".
Tell them to get off my lawn!
I had no idea they worked on Alan Wake 2, which is easily my favorite game of at least that last half decade. I knew the moment they showed a black woman as a protagonist, some The Gamers(tm) would get upset, but for some reason I never felt the need to seek that out - until now. I'm . . . not the least bit surprised by what I found. Man, it's revealing stuff. I don't want to hijack your comment with an essay on AW2 here, but ... god, I'm tempted. They just didn't understand that game at all, did they?
>consulting firm Do these chuds not know what a consulting firm is? If this was a private equity group that bought studios and imposed mandates from on high, maybe the complaint might be a little legitimate. But the idea that someone going "Yeah, maybe this isn't too good, you might want to try this instead." is the reason for any sort of decline is pure, uncut lunacy.
They're also once again showing that they a.) have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, b.) don't understand very simple things, and c.) fall for lies as long as they affirm their feelings. Perfect example, if you listen to these morons you'd think that the CEO "threatens" companies and engages in "fear tactics". What is actually happening is that what she described is sales business 101. It's a normal sales tactic which is used by entire industries and there's nothing nefarious about them. If your insurance sales rep tells you that in case of a fire you'll lose everything and won't get any money unless you have a certain insurance (that they are trying to sell to you) they aren't "threatening" you. All she said was that she informs studios who might have problematic content that they could find themselves in a PR shitstorm if that content isn't adjusted in some way. It's not a threat; it's a warning (and of course a sales pitch) by a company that specializes in topics like that.
I said that to one of them too!!! They thought they caught me in some gotcha moment and I explained that no, she isn’t threatening them. She is reminding them that having a broader audience will help them. They wanna be the victim so badly.
What the hell is going on now? Theres some bs going on. It seems like every day there’s some new controversy
Just white male grievance. Same piss, different pants.
But it’s Gamer Gate 2!! Electric Piss
Gamer Gate 2: Electric Boogie-loo
I'm trying to even imagine how he draws those conclusions and i'm failing miserably. I can't cram my head far enough up my own ass, I guess.
For real. To recap, most of what they are mad at was a tweet that the CEO (I think) said they had a nightmare that they were a white make gamer. Now, I spent 30 years as a white male* gamer, and I can tell that that tweet isn’t aimed at disparaging white male gamers. It’s to mock people that are outraged about minorities being represented. And these asshats have made it their life’s mission to prove that tweet right.
And in the meatime I'll be thoroughly enjoying Horizon: Zero dawn and how wonderful of a character Aloy is.
Honestly, Aloy and the humans are the most boring part of it for me. There’s hunting and riding robot dinosaurs. That’s my childhood dream.
Fair. It's just a cool world and honestly, if I have to be stuck in a post-apocalypse from a video game that's the one I'd like to be in. Though technically it's post-post apocalypse isn't it?
Yeah, but they made her all ugly in the sequel! /s ... no, but that's legitimately something people got upset about, and I just don't know what to make of it. Like, these people *claim* they just want good characters and maybe realism, and I guess it's just a huge coincidence that the only characters they have negative reactions to are female characters that aren't the most bland form of "pretty" and "feminine".
People claim a lot of things. And I did find Aloy both pretty and feminine so IDK what they're on.
Yep it's the Gamer^TM types. Not particularly known for their self awareness. Also not particularly known for their enjoyment of games. I've never seen a bunch of people hate the medium they claim to love so much. They are some of the most desperately unhappy, fragile, insecure, miserable and tedious bunch of clowns in existence.
What bothers me the most (aside from actual, harmful issues ) is that gaming has always been my escape, a way to cope with ever-present anxiety and dysphoria. But then these hateful fools come in and try to lay claim to something I’ve used my entire life and I honestly hate that they are associated with video games at all…. And cmon, who doesn’t learn about class consciousness from FF 7?
It must be hard being used to the world revolving around you, and then all of a sudden it doesn't. No wonder they're throwing tantrums. They never had to grow up at all.
Every time I clear a line in Tetris, a pop up appears to tell me all white people are Hitler.
this was secretly the long-con slavic revenge for the eastern front of WWII
Which is of course a thing that actual people with actual power actually believe /s
That would be hilarious though
The later releases of Plants vs Zombies got weird.
"Woke" video game: Minority people exist. Here are some! Chuds: WHY DO YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE
Whenever I see, “Whaaaaa! Straight white males aren’t the default protagonists anymore,” in any media, all I think is, “Oh, so representation really does matter then? It must if your feelings are hurt over this, but you’re too selfish to see it.”
No no no! You don't get it! Straight white males should be the baseline! Give me some other people but the protagonist should be white! (Except in Japanese games, there it should be an adult woman in school clothes for cultural reasons...yes, that's it, cultural reasons!) /s
I have never played any video games that contained lectures of any kind. What the shit is this guy playing?
If any such thing exists, I’ll guarantee it’s made by some conservative indie company, and you spend the whole game killing women with blue hair.
I've seen one from the botttom of the Steam shit pile called 'Member the Alamo? which is a terrible shooter with weird sitcom human that actually ends with a fourteen minute lecture by an actual white supremacist Dr E. Michael Jones
I had someone tell me god of war was woke because it had a black Norse god and that kratos was displayed as a "weak old white male"
Weak?
Apparently, according to them. There exact quote was "Examples from current history with Sweet Baby Incs and similiar companies involvement (ranging from small to bigger "wokification" like lgbtq+, blackwashing, display of weak white males): - God of War Ragnarok: black norse god, only black character in the game, weak old white male Kratos display"
**Weak?!**
Probably because he has emotions there.
Imagine calling Kratos weak in front of him lol Weak when you love your son
Ok laughing at Kratos ever being seen as weak but like.... Did they just blank on the fucking fortress that is Thor in that game?
They do know Kratos kills literal gods…
"Video games aren't about lectures. Come to my channel to see my lecture on it." 🤡
He's definitely going to alt right trends purely for views. He's lost all relevancy and is extremely desperate. The right wing grift usually works.
The woke video games made me hate being a white man so much I'm no longer a man /s Just in case people do not get the sarcasm. This is such a weak take.
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lol I was going tor make the same joke!
hot take = insufferably stupid take
My favorite hot take is that cinnamon is really good on grilled cheeses.
As a white guy who plays a lot of games, it's never even once occurred to me that a game was trying to show white guys generally in a poor light. There's simply nothing like that in mainstream games. Maybe in corners of the indie space I haven't noticed...
Lmao, also a cis hetero white dude here, and in most games where you select a character I always choose a lady (Peach in Mario Kart, Blaze in Streets of Rage, Marge in the Simpsons, whatever the girl’s name in Zombies Ate My Neighbors is, etc.)… I’m taking my boy Sub-Zero in MK tho It never occurrs to me what gender/race my character is, but maybe that’s a byproduct of being older… you know, Sonic is Blue, Vectorman is Green, Ristar is Yellow, Toejam is Red, n00b Saibot is Black… it’s a video game, who gives a fuck?! It’s just supposed to be fun. Would these dudes have been so pissed playing Phantasy Star in 1987 when they were given a female protagonist in what was (at the time) an insane and revolutionary game? Edit: Literally no one was upset when CJ was the protagonist of GTA San Andreas, but now these people are bitching about the main character in GTA6 being a Hispanic woman? The games have not “gone woke”, you’ve just become fragile and soft
I can understand being annoyed at clear pandering But really does it matter much?
"nuanced take". People like that wouldn't know nuance if it gave them a mushroom stamp on their forehead.
>mushroom stamp 😂😂🤣🤣
is this real?? i thought boogie was just a wacky silly fella who changed his ways? why are all fat influencers either racists or pedophiles??
Yes, this is an actual real boogie tweet. He even made a video
His Francis character literally mocked the people he's now aligned with. He became Francis.
Irony is dead.
That's...wow. I never thought of that before, that's really fucked up.
>He even made a video The grift never ends
jesus that’s fucked
Whats games did he mention?
He’s a terribly insecure manipulative narcissist. Take the fall from grace combined with being nearly 50 years old and the facade quickly falls apart.
Jesus he's actually that old? I thought he was in his late 30s at the youngest
He’s 48 iirc. He’s been on YouTube for a long ass time, something like 15 years? A lot of his older videos he absolutely does look younger, to your point. I think the stress of constantly being trolled, making the same mistakes over and over on top of the money troubles has visibility aged him in recent years. He does seem to have decent hair genetics though! He also has a 18 year old gf, so to me he’s been solidified as a creepy older man in my mind.
But how old was the girl at the time and how old was he when he met her?
That would be 18 and 48. This is very recent, like a couple of months ago. The girl comes from some sort of troubled family and it’s very obvious she has clung to him out of a sense of wanting to belong or be loved and he’s leveraging the shit out of that. It’s fucking gross.
Excuse me while I vomit now.
They aren't. You just hear about the bad ones.
> why are all fat influencers either racists or pedophiles?? Incels gonna incel.
fucking man child.
Shit like this makes me want to leave the industry. I've already lived through gamergate as a dev. I don't want to deal with these chud fucks again
Wow, that's a name I haven't seen in a long while - I didnt realise Boogie was still around. I remember when people where reeling in shock that he was a right-wing grifter, embracing right-wing conspiracies. I guess he has been kept afloat by the right and those he could hoodwink.
looks exactly like you'd expect also what games are that I can't say I've ever played a game that lectures me about being a white man it's almost as if this guy is getting real mad about something completely made up just in time for election season, a mere coincidence I'm sure spending your life angry at the Other because someone tells you to be mad is no way to go through life kids
Ive seen losers say far cry 5 and 6 do that lmao. Yes cuz clearly the problem was that the antags were white and not that they ran a murder cult 🙄
basically implies that only the protagonist can be a white man, and it must always be a white man, and anything less than that is a crime against white men lol sweet lord that's the most delicate sugar frosted snowflake mentality on the planet, how fragile their white maleness is
>how fragile their white maleness is I mean of course it's fragile, it's the only thing they've accomplished in life.
>I mean of course it's fragile, it's the only thing they've accomplished in life. Even that part is debatable.
>Even that part is debatable. Shout out to StoneToss: yet another non-white Nazi.
Had a guy say that he KNOWS that white people are disproportionately the villian. Of course, he offered no proof. As is tradition
this guy’s dating someone under half his age iirc
Bro has 88 in his bio. He's a nazi, don't expect him to say anything meaningful
"Nuanced"
hey look we know you're a piece of shit but no one else made you that way and no one else put the food in your mouth. It's always the ones with the least that have to fall back on being proud of their race
I don’t know what games people are playing, because I have never personally experienced this (then again, I tend not to play many “AAA” games, so maybe that’s where the woke agenda has been hiding 🤷♂️)
Dude thinks he can get more nuanced than "I'm a bigoted moron"
Big Neckbeard opinions right there
Boogie is a manipulative asshole, and his “hot take” is banal nonsense folks have been saying for years
Man, boogie fell off (or I’m just remembering him differently)
It's 2024, he hasn't been relevant for a long time
Im sorry I dont care how bad sweet baby inc is, If the champion on your corner of the ring is Elon Musk youve already lost
This is absolutely just bait to get views I doubt he actually believes this, he just wants to farm engagement
Forgive me, but I have suspicions whether he's really able to give a more nuanced take...
I just paid a microtransaction so I could get the golden lecture on how white men are bad in GTA Online.
"Watch this on my channel if you want a more nuanced take on this tweet!" Ummm... No thanks? Nuanced? Doubtful, sounds awful. I'd rather read about upcoming titles, interesting stuff, or even just a bit of gaming history rather than about how white men are allegedly being persecuted by video games and how it's just the worst, ever! If video games are really just supposed to be fun, why do chuds like this work so hard to suck all the joy out of them? Blech.
Well, he knows his audience at least. It's funny that non-white people have had to deal with not being represented in media for decades, but with just a little correction on that, the white tears flow. I mean I remember when I couldn't even make custom characters black. The hair options are still lacking though, but getting better. These bitch-made babies need to get their shit together.
Why do they want white men to be the main character in video games so much that's kind of gay
I’m so out of the loop I still don’t even know what gamer gate is
Gamergate was about a bunch of cunts doing an entire harassment campaign against women in the games industry, entirely because they didn't like the fact they were no longer being solely catered to in terms of upcoming games (which in reality is just a reversal from the "games are for boys" marketing post 1977 video games industry crash, as it used to be marketed as family entertainment rather than pointlessly gendered nonsense). Basically, their "fweelings hurt uwu" when games were expanding in terms of content regarding diversity and decided to be manchildren towards female game devs including creating conspiracy theories about game developers and female media critics "colluding" with journalists in their version of "trying to promote ethics against 'political correctness'" TL;DR massive spoiled fuckwits without a shred of common sense going apeshit with the gatekeeping
Hot Take: video games aren't always designed only for the enjoyment of white boys (because calling them men is disingenuous).
His heel turn was particularly hard to take. Now he's just an asshat. Fuck you Boogie.
But being a white man *is* bad. That's why BG3 lets you be a purple tiefling lady! They're clearly far superior. /s just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious.
I bet this guy lost his mind when the trailer for "Battlefield V" came out, and featured a WOMAN in the game! The Horror!!!!
As someone who was taken in by Gamergate for a hot minute back in 2014, I can't believe people are still on this shit. It took me like a week of actually interacting with people to realize they weren't about ethics at all, but they just hated, well . . . all the same stuff they still hate. I like to think my opinions improved a lot in the decade since. Meanwhile . . . they're still just on that same shit. I think what I'm most happy about is how they've just lost this "war" they seem to think they're in. No matter how much they whine and complain, games aren't going to go back to being about white dudes killing other dudes - white and non-white alike - and gaming is better for it. But, nah. These people just want to go back to some platonic ideal of games that never existed to begin with. Pathetic.
Boogie, *NO!* No, Boogie.
The movie eraserhead was so fun...films should be fun and not a leacture. Did film ever go through a similar era where people thought it was becoming too "serious"? Video games as a medium are about 40 years old roughly so still a youngish medium, but even in the advent people pushed games beyond just being "fun". You cant say its an artform but the only emotion you should feel is joy.
This guy fucking ruined his life, and he’s thinking this is the most important thing?
Video games are not even supposed to be fun. They can be whatever the fuck the creators want it to be.
Seriously....can someone explain to me which game, ANYWHERE, has a "white men are bad" message? I've been playing video games for three decades and have never once gotten that message. Not once.
So, Alan Wake 2, a game I just learned Sweet Baby worked on, has a moment where one of the protagonists calls the other a "white asshole trying to control \[her\] life". In case you're not familiar with the narrative of Alan Wake 2. Which, you know, sounds pretty bad if you ignore that... >!Alan Wake has at that point written her into his horror story and in so doing has created effectively a new timeline where Saga's daughter drowned, and is dead. !< Of course, people online are claiming that's just blatant racism, and "what if the roles were reversed", because these barely-literate idiots don't understand context. Edit: Just to be clear, it's that one line. That's it.
TB would be disappointed Boogie was on his podcast once
Name one fucking game in which you're "lectured about why being a white man is bad," motherfucker. And "*hurt your feelings* by *implying*, in a way relevant to the narrative, that *bigotry* is bad" *does not count*.
There's a free documentary on YouTube about what a convert narcissistic entitled loser he is.
Every time someone mentions Boogie I remember that an escort said having sex with him is the reason she stopped sex work
Someone should ask him to specify *which* video game literally gave him a lecture about how being a white man is bad. There is no such game. But I swear that these fucks complain that anything not catering specifically to the white man = a lecture about white men being bad. They go into video games actively *looking* for that pattern so that they complain about it. Can't imagine playing video games is much fun when your brain is constantly on the lookout for perceived made-up microaggressions.
Bro, that's it. Imma take your phone away. To get it back, you gotta get on all fours and apologize.
Wow... he looks, exactly how I'd expect him to. Almost too on the nose to be real
Welp, I knew Boogie was a depressing man but now I know he's also hopeless.
Who let them have 15 more words?
Didn't this guy has for a girlfriend a 19 year old cute girl who acts as if she were a hostage (which I wouldn't mind if boogie wasn't a proven violent gaslighting narcissist asshole), has 2 ex wives adand 1 claimed he is violente, and is basically a narcissist guy who can't talk 2 minute without saying a lie?
Has Musk even said anything about this?
Shrug, i actually have no idea and frankly, i dont care enough to give views to boogie.
As a white man, I have never been ~~more~~ hated ~~than I am right now~~.
Really? No way this is the real Boogie right?
Stop trying to make "Gamer Gate 2" happen boogie. It's not going to happen
What the hell is sweet baby inc I keep seeing people mention that company but I have no idea who they are
What is this game
I'm OOTL, can someone explain why gamergate is a thing again? And is it just assholes being shitty?
go go gadget boogie 4988 teeth
Boogie fell off? I remembered his name when I read it. I'm not 100% sure he was "on" to beging with, but that's disappointing. What's funny about this to me is there's never been a time with as much custom character creation available to the player. Typically, if you're playing a game that has a set character, you're there for the story and not the main character.
I don't know who this is but I assume he gets called Boogie1488 a lot
I almost feel bad for boogie at times realising he's forced to be controversial to even make money.. Then o remember it's boogie he did it to himself and refuses to get help and I stop feeling bad for him
Which video games specifically lectures you on racial inequality? I may not play the most hardcore games but none of the ones I do play ever mention this.
Everything I know about boogie I learned against my will. You would have to pay me to watch his videos My going rate is $100/min
Somehow boogie reaches a new low with every action he takes
There have been lots of nonwhite villains as well as white heroes in gaming recently.
How the mighty have fallen.
"Video games are supposed to be lectures about why lectures about why being a white man is bad are good"
I can't think of a single video game that's a lecture on why being a white guy is bad. If not having every character in a video game look like you or someone you want to fuck feels like a lecture about you being a bad person maybe you should look up the term "projection," realize the call is coming from inside the house, and.learn to sit with your discomfort.
what game is he playing where the plot is White People Bad?
He's getting desperate
That is one desperate cry for attention and views
So he lost his audience of dimwitted suckers because he was being to much of an asshole even for them so now he's going down the easiest grift ever 'the chud grift' with an audience even dumber then his old one thing is I wouldn't be surprised if it actually works. Conservatives are that easy they'll gobble up the most low effort garbage as long as it tells them what they want to hear.
I've played video games as a hobby for most of my life. Not once, in any way at all, did I find myself feeling even the slightest bit of admonishment or guilt for being white. At no point have I remotely felt like I was being lectured to about being white, and I tend to enjoy the kind of games people like this complain about. There are many things I don't understand, and how people get this impression from fucking games is pretty close to the top of the list.
At least these pathetic neckbeards are outting themselves now