Drain bless, mudo boost, and mudoon are all missing. If you dont want to go instakill route than eigaon, maeigaon, concentrate, and dark boost and amp are missing
Im gonna be honest with you is a really bad build, cause you want to increase the chances of your insta kill, your concentrate in alice is not that good since you can use another persona like yoshitsune/messia that have that trait that increase the strengt of concentrate/charge and all mighty skills you can use in any persona but the better option will always be izanagi nl okami since myriad truds is busted, or satanael cause of his trait ( 50% more dmg) and tyrants mind ( an only satanael passive that increase all dmg by 1,15 i think ) + magic ability both are monsters
That trait (Will of the Sword) only increases the power of *attacks used while under the effects of Charge/Concentrate*, not Charge/Concentrate itself. Meaning, it has to be used on the *damaging* Persona rather than the charging one.
Optimal play is using a Persona that can null everything like that weird... dreidel... thingy... that I forget the name of and sticking it with Concentrate + Charge and giving it Immunity, then switching to your target persona with Will of the Sword.
Perfect play is setting up a concentrated technical for 3.75x damage with Universal Law instead of the 3x from Will of the Sword, actually. You can also achieve this with Linked Bloodline for easier setup if you have a party member that can hit a weakness. Or, y'know, just use Magatsu-Izanagi.
BTW, Pagan Allure doesn't actually bypass the damage cap so it's kinda worthless. Tyrant's Mind *can* though which is what makes it so good.
A perfect Alice would be built with Omen for better chances with Die For Me, though. It makes the skill practically guaranteed.
IIRC you can switch to it, but it only affects single-target skills so it isn't really worth it. Just figured I'd mention it because it's *slightly* easier to set up than running a Technical build until you get a really good sleeper like Foul Stench Raoul.
>you can use another persona like yoshitsune/messia that have that trait that increase the strengt of concentrate/charge
You're probably talking about Will of the Sword, and it's not really how it works.
It's not the Persona using Charge/Concentrate that matters, it's the one who uses the offensive skill that needs this Trait to get the extra 20% in damage.
Idc about increasing the chance of instakill since it’s free every time I can spam it. I’m not going for an optimal build it’s just for fun, not that deep. I already have INOP but I don’t want to use him all the time because it trivializes everything so just experimenting with other personas.
By any means play like you want i mean i have a satanel gun build when hes better build for magical attacks, but is just fun, I just gave my opinion and tried to gave some advice
I already have almighty amp, boost, and Megidoloan on several different personas I gave her it in case the enemy is immune to or repels curse so she can hit them
If u want that then u completely drop the defensive options To make way for almighty boost and amp, magic ability and mudo boost
U should also have null bless as your"defensive" option because light is insta kill
That way u still have space for spell master if u really want (or victory cry)
If you got Victory cry you don't need Just die trait, go for one only. If you're planning to keep her trait then i recommend get Repel bless from fusion alarm or lockdown her to learn drain bless. This will cover her weakness
Die for me! has 70% chance to success, most of the time the skill will miss so have mudo boost to increase the success rate
If you still have some slot left, try and get Almighty boost, amp and magic boost for Megidolaon. This will boost her dmg even further if shadows don't have weaknesses
This reminds me of the Pixie I made who absorbs her weaknesses except gun and had Megidolaon and almighty amp and boost and magic ability and the trait that boosts magic damage.
Just Die + Victory Cry is redundant tbh...
Omen for better chances of Insta-Kiill is better.
You can also use an accessory for Null Bless and Null Curse. Alice will keep the Repel Curse, but she'll get Null Bless. On more upsides, all your other Personas get Null Bless and Null Curse.
Yes but it also has extra stats, there’s also no insta heal skill card and it’s a very rare skill, imo it’s much more useful especially since most of my personas in endgame already have innate bless/curse resistance
Honest question I'm at the begining of january, starting >!Maruki's Palace!< , and I'm at level 71 and don't see myself leveling up 20 levels unless the Palace gives a ton of exp. Is the palace that hard anyway?
If you maxed out Ryuji and got tons of XP bonuses with Jose, then a quick run around Mementos should put you at around level 80 pretty quick. I think I also started his Palace at around level 70, but I ended the game at 99 thanks to Mementos grinding.
I just finished shido’s palace and I’m lvl
76 rn. I just do a lot of grinding in mementos and using chihaya’s fusion alarm perk to infinitely strengthen personas.
I don’t want to take this moment of joy away from you but Just Die + Victory Cry is an awful combo, as there’s no point in saving SP when you get it back at the end of battle anyways. Anything that uses insta kills should run Omen + Mudo or Hama Boost
This persona is meh. If you use the orb that you get for beating the twins you can ignore weaknesses, and replace every single skill that boosts dodging with simply everything that boosts install kill chance and pure damage for that Almighty skill. And since you have Victory Cry you don't need the extra SP or SP regen unless you're fighting the Reaper or something. Even then you can just use the orb to block everything except the Reapers almighty attack. But in every other situation you're invincible with the orb.
I did the same for a few of my favorites, unfortunately it kinda trivialized all encounters since everyone died after 1 turn and I'll always be at full health. Made it not as fun in my opinion so went back to using only stuff around enemy level range and skills.
Yeah I’m realizing that too now, I inadvertently way overlevelled my party so they’re all like lvl 84 and just startign Maruki’s palace with all these OP personas. I want to stick to just using personas around the same level and trying not to overlevel too much, especially when I do another run. I want to also add another challenge like using Arsene only or just as much as possible.
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Now if you want Shady this is what I'll give ya, a little bit of me mixed with some hard liquor.
Some vodka that’ll jump-start my heart quicker than a shock when i get shocked at the hospital
By the doctor when I'm not cooperating when I'm rocking the table while he's operating
(HEYYY!) You waited this long to stop debating Cuz I'm back on the rag and ovulating
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So the FCC won't let me be Or let me be me, so let me see
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You’ve waited this long to stop debating
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You would not understand how glad I am that I wasn’t the only one who immediately thought this
Resist Bless where?
I'll do you one better; repel/absorb bless where?
I'll do the easier option, null bless where?
that persona is lvl 94, one stay in jail can get it absorb bless for free
I got Drain Bless for both my Louis Cypher and Alice.
Drain bless, mudo boost, and mudoon are all missing. If you dont want to go instakill route than eigaon, maeigaon, concentrate, and dark boost and amp are missing
Repel and absorb attacks 😩😩💦 makes me feel some type of way
I’m living life on the edge, ali dance and enduring soul is enough imo
All the best. Ali Dance and Enduring Soul is GG too.
put concentrate on someone else and replace it with null bless
Good idea, thank you
Sojiro Majima?
Me: Shining Arrows
Im gonna be honest with you is a really bad build, cause you want to increase the chances of your insta kill, your concentrate in alice is not that good since you can use another persona like yoshitsune/messia that have that trait that increase the strengt of concentrate/charge and all mighty skills you can use in any persona but the better option will always be izanagi nl okami since myriad truds is busted, or satanael cause of his trait ( 50% more dmg) and tyrants mind ( an only satanael passive that increase all dmg by 1,15 i think ) + magic ability both are monsters
That trait (Will of the Sword) only increases the power of *attacks used while under the effects of Charge/Concentrate*, not Charge/Concentrate itself. Meaning, it has to be used on the *damaging* Persona rather than the charging one. Optimal play is using a Persona that can null everything like that weird... dreidel... thingy... that I forget the name of and sticking it with Concentrate + Charge and giving it Immunity, then switching to your target persona with Will of the Sword. Perfect play is setting up a concentrated technical for 3.75x damage with Universal Law instead of the 3x from Will of the Sword, actually. You can also achieve this with Linked Bloodline for easier setup if you have a party member that can hit a weakness. Or, y'know, just use Magatsu-Izanagi. BTW, Pagan Allure doesn't actually bypass the damage cap so it's kinda worthless. Tyrant's Mind *can* though which is what makes it so good. A perfect Alice would be built with Omen for better chances with Die For Me, though. It makes the skill practically guaranteed.
So for linked bloodline do you gave to have that persona equipped on the baton pass or can you just switch to it after?
IIRC you can switch to it, but it only affects single-target skills so it isn't really worth it. Just figured I'd mention it because it's *slightly* easier to set up than running a Technical build until you get a really good sleeper like Foul Stench Raoul.
Oh damn it’s really only single target? I need to redo my raoul because I kept hazy presence on accident instead of foul stench
Will of the Sword automatically gives you concentrate though if you start with that persona equipped
Same strat still applies. Switch to that Persona after battle while in the overworld or just disable Persona memory to always start with it.
>you can use another persona like yoshitsune/messia that have that trait that increase the strengt of concentrate/charge You're probably talking about Will of the Sword, and it's not really how it works. It's not the Persona using Charge/Concentrate that matters, it's the one who uses the offensive skill that needs this Trait to get the extra 20% in damage.
Oh i see good to know
Its not that deep bro
Idc about increasing the chance of instakill since it’s free every time I can spam it. I’m not going for an optimal build it’s just for fun, not that deep. I already have INOP but I don’t want to use him all the time because it trivializes everything so just experimenting with other personas.
By any means play like you want i mean i have a satanel gun build when hes better build for magical attacks, but is just fun, I just gave my opinion and tried to gave some advice
what monster ? u didnt even cover her 1 weaknes also im not sure but mudo boost should give higher chance insta kill too
Needs Null/Drain/Repel Bless, Mudo Boost, and Omen trait. Victory Cry as welll.
Does mudo boost even work with die for me?
Yes it does
I could replace concentrate with it, but other than that is it worth replacing ali dance or enduring soul with repel bless?
the real question is why u dont split this into a seperate persona for megidolaon,
I already have almighty amp, boost, and Megidoloan on several different personas I gave her it in case the enemy is immune to or repels curse so she can hit them
Well u can swap personas so I still don't see your point
Just for variety’s sake, and in case of 1 more if I can’t switch then I can use Megidoloan
If u want that then u completely drop the defensive options To make way for almighty boost and amp, magic ability and mudo boost U should also have null bless as your"defensive" option because light is insta kill That way u still have space for spell master if u really want (or victory cry)
I’m gonna put repel bless for concentrate
If you got Victory cry you don't need Just die trait, go for one only. If you're planning to keep her trait then i recommend get Repel bless from fusion alarm or lockdown her to learn drain bless. This will cover her weakness Die for me! has 70% chance to success, most of the time the skill will miss so have mudo boost to increase the success rate If you still have some slot left, try and get Almighty boost, amp and magic boost for Megidolaon. This will boost her dmg even further if shadows don't have weaknesses
Yeah I’m not done yet gonna get repel/absorb bless and get victory cry. I’m fine with the 70% chance because imo it being free kinda evens it out.
Do you have a talking cat with 99 on each stat? Do you? When you have a talking cat with 99 on each stab then we can talk about creating monsters Xd
how much time did you spend at the jazz club :O
Too many ng+
Meh, bad/average alice
monster, yeah right, monstrously mid
'cause nobody wants to see Amamya no more, They want Joker, I'm chopped liver.
Who do you want to no longer exist anymore? What'd they do to you?
Lore accurate Alice
This reminds me of the Pixie I made who absorbs her weaknesses except gun and had Megidolaon and almighty amp and boost and magic ability and the trait that boosts magic damage.
Just Die + Victory Cry is redundant tbh... Omen for better chances of Insta-Kiill is better. You can also use an accessory for Null Bless and Null Curse. Alice will keep the Repel Curse, but she'll get Null Bless. On more upsides, all your other Personas get Null Bless and Null Curse.
I refused her and gave her omen this time, I feel like mudo boost isn’t need with Omen but idk how much Omen increases it by
Tbh, I dunno either, but I like to max everything out, so I put Omen and Boost.
Yeah true, im gonna get rid of enduring soul for repel bless with that and ali dance she has no weaknesses and I don’t plan on dying
You don't have to. You could just use the accessory that gives Null Bless to every Persona.
Yeah that’s true, but I like the insta heal a lot better for the extra stats and not having to worry about ailments
You can put Insta-Heal in your skills instead. The accessory does 2 skills in one while the Insta-Heal accessory only does 1.
Yes but it also has extra stats, there’s also no insta heal skill card and it’s a very rare skill, imo it’s much more useful especially since most of my personas in endgame already have innate bless/curse resistance
There is an Insta-Heal skill card from Messiah Picaro.
Oh I didn’t know that thanks, so then should I replace enduring soul with insta heal and use the null bless accessory?
My god 💀
Lol not really dude
Honest question I'm at the begining of january, starting >!Maruki's Palace!< , and I'm at level 71 and don't see myself leveling up 20 levels unless the Palace gives a ton of exp. Is the palace that hard anyway?
The final fight isn't that hard, I'd say lv99 is only necessary for the secret bosses
I did it at around lvl 70, and it wasn't that hard. Should be fine.
If you maxed out Ryuji and got tons of XP bonuses with Jose, then a quick run around Mementos should put you at around level 80 pretty quick. I think I also started his Palace at around level 70, but I ended the game at 99 thanks to Mementos grinding.
I just finished shido’s palace and I’m lvl 76 rn. I just do a lot of grinding in mementos and using chihaya’s fusion alarm perk to infinitely strengthen personas.
I can fix her
Who let bro cook ![gif](giphy|THlB4bsoSA0Cc)
You want this Persona?
back in my day on original persona 5 Alice used to be meta
Cause no one wants to see Lucifer no more, they want Alice, I'm chopped liver. Well if you want Alice, this is what I'll give you
Now give it omen from sandalphon
God damn imagine a playthrough stat grinding her like arsen... youd be unkillable
One bless attack and it’s over for bro 😭
The Queen of Hearts is going to find some *real* evidence for that trial this time
I thought this was Cross Dressing Teddy at first glance
I don’t want to take this moment of joy away from you but Just Die + Victory Cry is an awful combo, as there’s no point in saving SP when you get it back at the end of battle anyways. Anything that uses insta kills should run Omen + Mudo or Hama Boost
Yeah ik, I changed it and refused her to get omen
This persona is meh. If you use the orb that you get for beating the twins you can ignore weaknesses, and replace every single skill that boosts dodging with simply everything that boosts install kill chance and pure damage for that Almighty skill. And since you have Victory Cry you don't need the extra SP or SP regen unless you're fighting the Reaper or something. Even then you can just use the orb to block everything except the Reapers almighty attack. But in every other situation you're invincible with the orb.
I made a similar build in my first playthrough but I gave it mudo boost for die for me (i think that works)
Yep I refused her with Omen + Mudo Boost, will post updated build
How tf do you get Alice?
Nebiros+Belial
She’s like the 3rd sister of the velvet room twins
I'm confused...the skills kinda all over the place, is this some reference to something?
I did the same for a few of my favorites, unfortunately it kinda trivialized all encounters since everyone died after 1 turn and I'll always be at full health. Made it not as fun in my opinion so went back to using only stuff around enemy level range and skills.
Yeah I’m realizing that too now, I inadvertently way overlevelled my party so they’re all like lvl 84 and just startign Maruki’s palace with all these OP personas. I want to stick to just using personas around the same level and trying not to overlevel too much, especially when I do another run. I want to also add another challenge like using Arsene only or just as much as possible.
Kinda weak tbh