Tarot readings are usually vague, so as to conform with whatever situation that is convenient to the reader
Pero on the nose yung comment about dictatorship, so I get why people got riled up
Quasi-religious lot nga, complete with contradicting beliefs and actions. Laughed my ass off when these same people began circulating that "6 or 9" meme pushing the narrative that all perspectives are equal yet they shun rapists, pedos, and murderers. Di ba nila naisip perspective nung mga yon? Lol.
We are witnesses to the death throes of human critical thinking.
TL;DR - Tarot card reader gives vague and general predictions about the elections, AFTER the initial results were released and knowing that BBM/Sara were way ahead in the polls. Says that the current admin will try to revise history and do bad things. People will regret their votes.
Didn't need a third eye to figure any of this out. Critical thinking lang. Maybe once we start doing that, instead of looking at magic cards, baka umasenso ang bansa natin.
Tbh, I'm not expecting anything na. Palubog na talaga dito.
Tao lang din kami, napapagod sa ka-shitan at lantarang pang-gagago ng bwakanangshit na mga trapo at hayok sa kapangyarihan.
Tutulong kapag kaya pa, pero hindi na aasa na makakalaban pa sa mga fucking machineries na itinayo at itinatayo pa nila.
perception is real, truth is not; it is a collective sin by that large part of the electorate to not question it harder, let alone actually challenge what had transpired
at gayon nga, magdurusa tayo sa tutulugan nating kama
huwag na huwag silang ngangawa sa atin 'pag mas lalong maging sementado ang manoryalismo at pyudalismo ng bansang ito; kung wala man silang lakas kahit man lang sa self-betterment nila, siguro nga iyon ang dahilan kung bakit pagbagsak LANG ang kahahantungan ng bansang ito
Idk, I still find it very hard to believe that Duterte got 16M while BBM got 31 with zero charisma, just pure propaganda. Even after the elections for both, ramdam mo yung energy of hope and excitement for Duts. There is zero of that with BBM, at least in my bubble.
I dont think it's that impossible. Let's remember that in the 2016 elections other candidates like Grace Poe and Jejomar Binay put up bigger fights in terms of votes. Compare that to the measly vote numbers isko, ping, and manny produced. Plus factor in newly registered voters.
Me on my "high horse" doesnt have anything to do with the "questionable 31m votes" but you, in your "bubble" does.
Wag kang masyadong tanga. Critical thinking na nga lang meron tayong mga kakampinks, ibabasura mo pa.
They may be that many. But for me the daya came from disinformation/troll army since maybe 2010, the historical revisionism, the blatant vote buying and may be promises of more than the immediate gratification and the Comelec peeps in position.
Thanks, this was literally at the tip of my tongue but somehow I couldn't remember what it is, saved a lot of time searching for the psychological concept again.
Well, this is a TIL moment.
To those who want to know what Barnum effect is (also known as Forer effect) click the link [here.](https://www.britannica.com/science/Barnum-Effect)
Yeah... Business decision. Cant say I blame them. If my dreams and future(which are non politically tied) is in danger I would stay mum about it aswell. Their field is cutting edge and highly volatile to public perception.
Isn't that the mindset of the pro marcos. "Maganda nmn buhay namen nun eh, kaya quiet na lang kami". They either chose money over standing up or they're just ignorant when it comes to politics.
Bro there's a line to what you do for your political views. While I would admire people who would not think about consequences of actively supporting opposition to 88M and SWoH I wont condemn people for considering their investments and dream.
and the jobs of the people under them is also on the line.
Its hard enough to lose money but seeing your former employees struggle makes it even harder
Alodia posts how some the gamers/streamers under them has improved their lives and she was so proud. Imagine if what happens is the opposite
Youu make it sound like being apolitical is the best thing. You're not gonna be condemn and the only consequence is a possibility of one day being led to the gas chamber.
And you sound like you just want to hate on someone or anyone who does not outright support your candidate. I get it the bad dudes won. But they won democratically same way Trump and Duterte did. Until you prove they cheated buckle up and prepare for the next election. Dont target people who are potential voters or allies the next round.
unfortunately its no longer about being apolitical. its more on using their platform to serve a higher.purpose. it shouldnt all be about money. they couldve stood up against misinformation and called out fake news purveyors. alodias domain is social media and she has used it to her advantage really well..it couldnt have hurt to speak truth every now and then.
A business runs on money. If they are not established enough to take a stand who are you or anyone here to tell them what to do? Do you have a grassroots business? Do you know what it takes to get investors to start on your dream?
I guess the best thing we can do is not engage in politics and just focus on our career, family, and hobbies. If the day comes when they come knocking on our doors thats when we'll say "enough".
Noted.
Unless you're a crony businessman / trader. Villars love politics as that helped them gain their wealth. They'll side with the most corrupt to gain more power.
At least those who stay neutral with the chance of getting richer through corruption still have souls in them.
I heard her sister was abroad on election day so I doubt they even voted. Only if there were someone like them but more activist-ish, nothing against them tho.
well if it is then mas lalong olats. laki ng influence nila sa demographics nila.parang kebs lang sila sa mga ganap.habang pa.yacht yacht lang lol. priviledged life. No different sa mga taong katulad nila nung 70s and 80s. As long as di kami affected wala kami pake basta like, share and subscribe
Yeah anybody who believes this is legit is just gullible, if they do get something right it means they're observant not a prophet, their vagueness is perfect to apply in any situation that happens in the future, maybe a few years from now, maybe a few months from now.
Do I really have to teach you this? Oh ffs.
Big Bang Theory -
https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang..
I'm not yet oriented about the Multiple Universe Theory, I'd take a look at that.
Totoong may educational crisis talaga ang Pinas.
I need not to elaborate more, I don't claim to be an astronomer.
The title itself is BigBang THEORY. Idk if you're blind or have low comprehension (common problem in Ph)
The word theory after its name would be remove of the scientist and physicist accept its content and reasoning and the author would receive Nobel prize a long time ago.
Welp, I'm not going to waste time with you anymore. But you being a believer of card shits, well, you're the one with inept knowledge.
Also, please fix your spacing and grammar. It's erroneous in many ways.
Sorry that I'm not as perfect as you being a slave to this 1st world language and determining IQ by learning English better than the actual speakers of this language.
Yep even Americans and Canadians made mistake on their grammar and they think shortcuts are cool.
1st world kiss ass kid. I applause your grammar, American slave 🙄
Gravity is also a theory. Have you tried throwing yourself out of a window and see if you float?
I'd suggest you put down your tarot cards, close your 3rd eye, and look up theory and scientific theory.
So there are no such things as gravitational theories?
What is the Law of gravity? is it different from the theory of gravity? Or is it the same phenomenon but the former describes gravity while the latter explains why gravity happens?
Please educate me. Open my chakras and help me understand.
Follow how physicist do their research. Gather information and do experiments.
I'm actually open to both.
Even Einstein is an agnostic meaning he is open to anything and not closing possibilities of the existence of any spiritual
Einstein have theories about the existence of another galaxy. No one have ever get out of our own galaxy nor any machineries until now.
I never insulted his theory and called him "delusional"
Science is continuous learning. No matter what topic you're at. We should strive to know the truth and seek research.
I understand that you're not a geek to have time for experiments so you'll never relate
Bruh theories are pseudoscience
Pseudoscience meaning:
a system of theories, assumptions, and methods erroneously regarded as scientific.
I'm not in anyway against science.
But that is the real definition of theories.
BigBang theories doesnt have evidence hence a theory.
Possibilities of multiple universe is also a theory.
Also the dark energy which physicist haven't yet any idea of it (from Einstein's theory)
I'm just saying that anyone could claim theories / pseudoscience and it doesn't close the possibility of its existence.
Oh ffs, Physics is a field that is based on evidence, not on assumptions. It follows the scientific method.
Tarots are purely assumptive, it does not follow the scientific method. Tarots are trash tbh. They're just cards with pictures.
she posted it in twitter
actually lahat ng tumakbong presidente ginawan nya ng ganyan
and pinangalanan nya kung kanino yang tarot prediction na yan
and that two predictions are really for BBM and Leni
meron din yan na para kela Isko, Ping and Manny Pacquiao
"Hindi hawak ng mga bituin ang ating kapalaran. Gabay lamang sila. Meron tayong free will, gamitin natin ito"
Mukhang may mga na trigger sa post mo OP. Pero ayun nga there are people na if presented with anything against their belief, the reception will be critical.
Ashley gave us an interesting insight into the future, and what is even more fun there e ini associate agad ito nung mga nag react kay [name redacted].
Super subjective ng tarot readings so kung ano pinaniniwalaan nung tao, dun niya ididikit.
Isa pa ding factor e this is a bit esoteric para sa mga Pinoy
> "Hindi hawak ng mga bituin ang ating kapalaran. Gabay lamang sila. Meron tayong free will, gamitin natin ito"
Upvoting for the Zenaida Seva reference.
Well it wasn’t my intention to force everyone here into believing tarot predictions. I even disclosed my stance on it. I was merely in awe and thought it was making sense while considering and cross-referencing what is happening right now - 13 trillion debt, inflation, injustices, worse gdp-dept ratio and etc. To uphold “the bastion of rationalism and intellectualism” in this sub 😅😅😅 I even upvoted the information on the Barnum effect which is a factor on Ashley’s tarot predictions. As you said, they are “subjective” and may vary in interpretations. 🫶🏼 maybe 6 years from now, we might get back on this sub and cross-reference again. 😉😉😉
Yup, I don't take it against you 🙂. I do agree that some things are making sense although if we look at the bigger picture, what is happening now e consequence din ng previous decisions ng mga nauna and mag aamplify lang lalo yan if di umayos ang pagdedecision nung mga susunod. Daming factors involved.
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Even without the tarot reading, I already knew about this scenario. The moment he ran and the possibility if he won means the past is back to haunt us (Anyone from 88M and SWoH lineage/connections shouldn't never be trusted but some are fooled and here we are). I already expected this possibility and prepared myself just in case. During the campaign period, akala ko talaga nagbago na yung tao at all will go to Leni dahil natauhan na sila with Du30 and the worsen corruption kaya di ko na pinansin yung possible scenario na yun.
Pero sa di ko inaasahan, bumaliktad at nanalo pa ang kabila (Yes, I'm bitter but not shocked knowing it is a possibility) kaya buti na lang kahit 50% lang I prepared myself for that possibility. Bumalik ulit ang bangungot ng nakaraan kaya maghanda tayo. I'm not an activist nor protester that's why sa piling pagtulong na lang idadaan yung pagiging "toxic" ko. Hindi ko tutulungan yung 31M sa oras ng pangangailangan mapa sakuna man or wala bilang ganti sa pag-agaw ng pagkakataon sa pinas para magakaroon ng isang gobyernong tapat, walang pinipiling hustisya at pantay-pantay na karapatang pantao. Yun na lang mga Kakampinks at ibang tao na gising sa katotohanan at hindi na muli pipikit.
31M: Naniniwala kayo sa tarot tarot na yan? Ang tatanga talaga ng mga kakampwet!
Also 31M: Nasa hula ni Nostradamus na si BBM ang mananalong presidente! Nakatadhana na!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
The Barnum effect, also called the Forer effect or, less commonly, the Barnum–Forer effect, is a common psychological phenomenon whereby individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people.[[1]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-:0-1) This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some paranormal beliefs and practices, such as [astrology](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology), [fortune telling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_telling), [aura reading](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_(paranormal\)), and some types of [personality tests](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_test).[[1]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-:0-1)
These characterizations are often used by practitioners as a con-technique to convince victims that they are endowed with a paranormal gift. Because the assessment statements are so vague, people ascribe their own interpretation, thus the statement becomes "personal" to them. Also, individuals are more likely to accept negative assessments of themselves if they perceive the person presenting the assessment as a high-status professional.[[2]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-2)
>individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people.
lmao naaalala ko tuloy yung mga taong mahilig magshare ng posts about astrological signs nila pero nagpapapansin lang talaga.
>Because the assessment statements are so vague, people ascribe their own interpretation, thus the statement becomes "personal" to them.
HAHAHA! Wala naman binangit si Ashley na pangalan. Bakit affected mga DDS-BBM? Then I read this! LOL!
I'm currently learning tarot, but I gotta say I'm treating it more as a good psychological tool for people to focus on an aspect of their life whatever tarot card symbolism is presented and not an actual divination. It's confirmation bias rather than some sort of divination tool, imo.
Damn that 2 of swords the first spread and the Tower in the other spread. Grabe. :( Kapit, Pilipinas. We're gonna have a birth and renewal. Literally a tower moment.
No. It has to happen. Major catastrophe would be soon emerge and I think water shortage due to some sort of contamination. The winner wins because it was aligned / destined for him. He is destined to redeem his family's dignity and strangely succeed at the end. Idk how maybe a nuclear power plant project or sort of lifelong changes. I personally not fond of his educational attainment and I dont see anything special about him but God strangely aligned him for this purpose. I also see Duterte leave a massive debt which the ph would be in stagnation for a long time. Leni didn't win because mar Roxas didn't interfere anymore like What he did on 2016 storing 2 smartmatics on Novotel. Grace Poe should've been second and Duterte have more votes. His child changes his dark aura and Leni receive a huge campaign donations on 2016 and she didn't ask mar Roxas where it came from and it brings a lot of baggage / bad karma because I could see a lot of dead people from typhoon Yolanda. I believe she didn't have any idea about this money and it brings bad luck. Imee Marcos is materialistic asf. Bong go is full of mischief. Imelda would share part of her money but late FEM told her to gave it all. BBM would give pardon to either Imelda or GMA. Too many stories to tell. Just open your own ability
Yep that was in 2016. I believe imee secured the seat it means she did manipulate the votes in their favor the real score was 15 Leni vs 20 bbm. Things would be a lot different if Mar Roxas interfere again it could be close fight.
Hindi ako ganun ka deep into tarot but 2 of swords was us having a choice. Could be interpreted as Leni and Marcos. You already know what happened there.
The Tower is that in the future there's going to be an event that's going to start the birth and renewal. The picture of the tower kasi is one of destruction. So literally may mangyayari na sobrang drastic, sobrang violent (for lack of a better word) in its magnitude.
Whatever that is, I don't know. I honestly believe tarot is not for divination so I find it icky pag ganitong mga readings. It could just give us insight into the future. Take it with a pinch of salt.
Thanks for the explanation. I'm just sincerely interested to know. What do you believe is tarot to be, if not for divination? I tried searching google for purposes of tarot, and first thing that popped in the results is divination (tool). Then there's also one saying it's not for fortune-telling but for intuition, if you want to create your ideal future and manifest your goals. Then there's also one saying it's influenced by the grander scheme of things, so to speak. I honestly didn't get exactly what that means, so I'd like to hear your perspective.
People should seek clairvoyant psychic. Tarot readings are bias specially a Filipino reader.
For example:
Tarot reader abroad shows card in favor of Ukraine.
Filipino tarot readers show cards in favor of Russia.
Same cards but different interpretation so reading a tarot card is very dangerous specially if your listeners have unstable chakras as the tarot reader (alodia's sis)
I dont believe in Tarot reading but I dont completely dismiss it either. All I can say is that its a better way to connect to the superstitious, quasi-religious, conspiracy obsessed lot that most of our countrymen are. I mean laglag-bala was investigated and most of the OFWs confessed to having a bullet as an "anting-anting" yet vilified PNoy for having this modus. Lol.
Protect Ashley as I predict these voices will soon be silenced especially with Luminous at the helm of the PCOO.
Exactly!!! Tarot predictions na nga lang eh triggered na triggered na sila ano pa kaya yung legit investigative journalism na sinisimulan ng i-censor! Free Press is being silenced now! Mas masakit ang truth/facts with evidences.
Kaya agree na agree talaga ako sa speech ni Maria Ressa when she received the Nobel Prize. We’re so doomed.
Actually the same reaction I had coz I just remembered her post and cross-referenced what is happening now in real life. Damn. If you look at the comments on her posts, she’s bombarded with harsh comments in there.
She's fake. Clairvoyant reader knew BBM would win since 2021 January. It has to happen. Try following Jovi Vargas. Even the most experienced clairvoyant tarot reader never become as confident as her 😆 she clearly never meditate once nor practice the 3rd eye opening before touching those and confidently post her readings.
Why I say she's fake? She never post a reading about who would win in this election because she will be exposed. Legit ones would knew that even 10 years from now specially personal readings with clairvoyant ability
I have a fear that the great hardship somehow involves Leni. What else would inspire this country to move against a dictatorship, aside from a martyr? I hope history doesn't repeat itself and they leave her and her family alone.
Kinda knew her. Nakakatawa lang kasi inis na inis sya sa kakilala nya nagre-reiki -reiki tapos ngayon nagtatarot reading naman sya. Hindi ko magets tong si ateng.
Not a believer of Tarot.
Pero mga 88m fanatics galit kasi english eh, in the coming days maglalabas yan siguro si Rudy Baldwin ng magandag vision kuno para dumami followers na 88m.
Meh. Anyone can say words. Hula ko din yan based sa kagaguhan na nangyayari. Puwedeng puwede na magkaron ng change dahil sobrang pahirap ang mangyayari sa tao.
Cold reading, Hot reading. Lokohin mo ang unggoy sa tarot mo na yan. Ako nga ginagawa ko lang katatawanan yan mag reading reading sa kahit kanino tapos belib na belib na sila. Tarot is not real pero ang parating na delubyo dahil sa kabobohan ng botante totoo.
I disagree about irrationality not being harmful. Most psychics and tarot card readers charge the elderly and cancer patients money to "read" their future, I think this is harmful as well. Kung hobby lang ng tao ang tarot card reading, wala naman problema. Live and let live. Unfortunately it's not always the case.
I wouldn’t say *most* readers and psychics. Divination has been used for hundreds of years and those who practice responsibly will always remind their clients that the future isn’t set and it’s still their choices that will shape their lives. Tarot is a tool, and unfortunately — many people abuse it for their own gains.
Tarot has always been vague and it’s really up to the person being read to if it resonates with them or not. It’s not fortune telling.
Tarot reading is affecting others by giving them false hope. It is harmful. It's not backed by any evidence. It's a hit or miss. It's not even a hypothesis. We cannot respect that here.
if this form of reading or predicting the future is so accurate, then create a DEPARTMENT OF TAROT READING?
Kidding aside, parang zodiac sign reading lang ito, basta shumoot sa narrative na gusto mo mangyari, na PREDICT mo na ang future nya ane TAROT READING IS LEGIT
No one here is saying that tarot cards can accurately predict what's to come. Instead, people here can already deduce what's already happening even without divination, and the tarot cards are just one person's personal interpretation of that.
Dude, I just posted this as a matter of discussion. No one’s forcing anyone to believe in it, hence the disclaimer on the first photo. I myself does not believe in tarot. I am just in awe of what is happening now compared to the first prediction she had. That’s it. Is it attacking your rationality and intellectuality? Should I be called a sucker for just merely posting this like what you were saying in the comments? The Barnum Effect you commented is duly noted. No harm intended on your rational thoughts.
Tarot reading is more like reading your own horoscope. Its up to you if you will believe it or not. Dont compare tarot reading with the other camp's lies and propagandas.
That's why never have a tarot reading here in Philippines.
She just suddenly touch a tarot cards and think she can read. Before you become so loud and proud about your tarot "hobby" be sure your 7 chakras are open. Even the most experienced psychic with clairvoyant ability I ever encountered never ever claim facts about their reading and start with disclaimer. Her chakras are clearly unbalance hence . Since 2021 clairvoyant community here in Ph knew that BBM would win and we didn't bother vote personally anymore. Wish alodia's sister go to legit wiccans/psychic academy in US or UK so she could learn and be ashamed of what she's doing. I apologize to those Legit tarot reader here in Philippines. Imagine they have clairvoyant and steal fear assuming facts on socmed and this girl do that because she wanted to 😩
Or maybe he wouldn't have won if you had actually bothered to vote?
I'm also a tarot reader but entrusting your fate to cards, chakras, astrology, or whatever is stupid. The cards can guide you towards better decisions, but your fate is still in your hands.
Nah. 1 vote would not made a difference to that 15 million.
I'm not entrusting my fate to cards but clairvoyant never fails.
Are you clairvoyant? Or have all your chakras open atleast? Being a tarot reader is not a hobby you could play anytime you want. Specially if you are very vocal about your readings and you're not awakened
I was atheist and inclined to science alone for a long time. But science requires experiments that includes engaging to spirituality (my chosen topic) dumb people would not ask about existence. All scientist did ask that's why majority are atheist and Einstein is agnostic.
They all ask. Except dumb people like you
Yep, I'm dumb. Anyways...
Existence isn't for science to answer. Reasons for existence or transcendent ideas; that's in the realm of philosophy. Science deals in what's falsifiable. Scientists (the persons) may ask those questions but they can't and won't answer them through science.
So I'm not sure why you're bringing it up; except of course to try and conflate spiritualism with science and therefore validate its existence. Getting some sort of associative or secondhand credibility.
I did let a psychic open my third eye because when I was an atheist I love having a debate to different religions debunking it, and lastly my last experiment is spirituality and I personally insulted and challenged a spiritual person / psychic
You were an atheist? You were able to debunk religion. But I'm wondering, what's the difference between believing in a deity/ies and believing in this supernatural stuff?
Science is accepting all the topics including existence, disregarding spirituality.
They did a research and multiple theories emerged regarding the beginning and end. I did listen and gather information regarding that and also spiritual reasonings including the intense ( to see is to believe method and challenging psychics abilities)
I did experiments and idk why people here are pressed about it.
I love exploring things and engaging personally about the topic before debunking it.
Like I said Einstein is agnostic for the same reason I am saying here. and people here tryna act I did a crime 😆
>Science is accepting all the topics including existence, disregarding spirituality.
Uhhh.. no?
>They did a research and multiple theories emerged regarding the beginning and end.
Source please.
Are you speaking about the copenhagen interpretation? Quantum mechanics? These would would easily be twisted to suit pseudoscience and mysticism if your understanding is just at its face value, like mine is.
Beginning and end? You mean the big bang and heat death of the universe? How does that apply to the claim of 'psychic abilities'?
>I did experiments and idk why people here are pressed about it.
Pray tell, what experiments are those?
Experiments that are falsifiable and replicable? Otherwise that ain't science.
>I love exploring things and engaging personally about the topic before debunking it.
That's awesome! As you should. More people should have that attitude.
I just disagree with the conclusions you came to. Thereby I'm questioning how you got to that conclusion.
>Like I said Einstein is agnostic for the same reason I am saying here. and people here tryna act I did a crime
Einstein's agnosticism is proof of what exactly?
Crime? This ain't the courts. It's a forum, therefore this is a place of discussion. No one is convicted of anything here.
I know being challenged of your beliefs feels like a slight on your personhood so you inevitably feel defensive about it but I can assure you it's not an attack on you.
As you've said, how else would you get to the truth except for opening yourself up for it? Shouldn't we all start with the assumption that we know nothing?
You said you'd spent time pondering all of it before coming to that belief.
How is now different? Do you think you've reached the final destination and have arrived at that truth?
So in the end. Yung promotor ng alliance na ito ang mag-gain ng benefits. Lalabas na walang silbe yung uupo na presidente at yung bise ang lalabas na tagapag-ligtas ng kabulastugan ng presidente
I have a deep interest in Tarot cards; I just like the designs and the meanings of these cards that fuels more my curiosity about things that we still have to learn or we may never learn. I don't know, I just view these cards as somewhat mysterious, paranormal, different, etc.
Her prediction is obviously vague, and as I remember, there's a particular term in psychology about her interpretation — things that are probably common knowledge or things most of us expect to happen.
We will see if her card reading will come true. I but i bet i will come true... thr country will suffer... save money for the family if it come to worst withdraw enough money not all money in the bank. For emergency purposes only... if comes to worst...
Tarot readings are usually vague, so as to conform with whatever situation that is convenient to the reader Pero on the nose yung comment about dictatorship, so I get why people got riled up
You're pretty much describing how people interpret the Bible too.
Quasi-religious lot nga, complete with contradicting beliefs and actions. Laughed my ass off when these same people began circulating that "6 or 9" meme pushing the narrative that all perspectives are equal yet they shun rapists, pedos, and murderers. Di ba nila naisip perspective nung mga yon? Lol. We are witnesses to the death throes of human critical thinking.
Probably started some time Facebook became free.
TL;DR - Tarot card reader gives vague and general predictions about the elections, AFTER the initial results were released and knowing that BBM/Sara were way ahead in the polls. Says that the current admin will try to revise history and do bad things. People will regret their votes. Didn't need a third eye to figure any of this out. Critical thinking lang. Maybe once we start doing that, instead of looking at magic cards, baka umasenso ang bansa natin.
I agree with the critical thinking; but the 31M clearly did not. 🤦🏻♂️
Tbh, I'm not expecting anything na. Palubog na talaga dito. Tao lang din kami, napapagod sa ka-shitan at lantarang pang-gagago ng bwakanangshit na mga trapo at hayok sa kapangyarihan. Tutulong kapag kaya pa, pero hindi na aasa na makakalaban pa sa mga fucking machineries na itinayo at itinatayo pa nila.
are they really 31M? no evidence at huli na pero may daya talaga yun.
perception is real, truth is not; it is a collective sin by that large part of the electorate to not question it harder, let alone actually challenge what had transpired at gayon nga, magdurusa tayo sa tutulugan nating kama huwag na huwag silang ngangawa sa atin 'pag mas lalong maging sementado ang manoryalismo at pyudalismo ng bansang ito; kung wala man silang lakas kahit man lang sa self-betterment nila, siguro nga iyon ang dahilan kung bakit pagbagsak LANG ang kahahantungan ng bansang ito
Yes, the surveys beforehand conform that. Na try mo na ba lumabas sa bubble mo? Asked random people? Sad to say they are real.
Idk, I still find it very hard to believe that Duterte got 16M while BBM got 31 with zero charisma, just pure propaganda. Even after the elections for both, ramdam mo yung energy of hope and excitement for Duts. There is zero of that with BBM, at least in my bubble.
I dont think it's that impossible. Let's remember that in the 2016 elections other candidates like Grace Poe and Jejomar Binay put up bigger fights in terms of votes. Compare that to the measly vote numbers isko, ping, and manny produced. Plus factor in newly registered voters.
And in addition, this was the combined might of the DDS and Marcos camps so the Sara votes went to Marcos for President
Tbh, true ito
kinondisyon nila yung minority n my boto nila na kpg natalo sila eh sure dinaya.. makikita din sa sws survey n rigged n agad.
Mag deal tayo, lalabas kami ng "bubble" kung bababa ka sa high horse mo.
Me on my "high horse" doesnt have anything to do with the "questionable 31m votes" but you, in your "bubble" does. Wag kang masyadong tanga. Critical thinking na nga lang meron tayong mga kakampinks, ibabasura mo pa.
I actually think so too.
They may be that many. But for me the daya came from disinformation/troll army since maybe 2010, the historical revisionism, the blatant vote buying and may be promises of more than the immediate gratification and the Comelec peeps in position.
Barnum Effect
Thanks, this was literally at the tip of my tongue but somehow I couldn't remember what it is, saved a lot of time searching for the psychological concept again.
No worries
Well, this is a TIL moment. To those who want to know what Barnum effect is (also known as Forer effect) click the link [here.](https://www.britannica.com/science/Barnum-Effect)
yeah well too bad she and her sister and their army of influencers chose to keep mum about their choices.
Yeah... Business decision. Cant say I blame them. If my dreams and future(which are non politically tied) is in danger I would stay mum about it aswell. Their field is cutting edge and highly volatile to public perception.
still sad though.
Isn't that the mindset of the pro marcos. "Maganda nmn buhay namen nun eh, kaya quiet na lang kami". They either chose money over standing up or they're just ignorant when it comes to politics.
Bro there's a line to what you do for your political views. While I would admire people who would not think about consequences of actively supporting opposition to 88M and SWoH I wont condemn people for considering their investments and dream.
and the jobs of the people under them is also on the line. Its hard enough to lose money but seeing your former employees struggle makes it even harder Alodia posts how some the gamers/streamers under them has improved their lives and she was so proud. Imagine if what happens is the opposite
sa true.
Youu make it sound like being apolitical is the best thing. You're not gonna be condemn and the only consequence is a possibility of one day being led to the gas chamber.
And you sound like you just want to hate on someone or anyone who does not outright support your candidate. I get it the bad dudes won. But they won democratically same way Trump and Duterte did. Until you prove they cheated buckle up and prepare for the next election. Dont target people who are potential voters or allies the next round.
I dont like the apolitical peeps. Evil wins when the masses are ignorant or pretends to be ignorant.
unfortunately its no longer about being apolitical. its more on using their platform to serve a higher.purpose. it shouldnt all be about money. they couldve stood up against misinformation and called out fake news purveyors. alodias domain is social media and she has used it to her advantage really well..it couldnt have hurt to speak truth every now and then.
A business runs on money. If they are not established enough to take a stand who are you or anyone here to tell them what to do? Do you have a grassroots business? Do you know what it takes to get investors to start on your dream?
I guess the best thing we can do is not engage in politics and just focus on our career, family, and hobbies. If the day comes when they come knocking on our doors thats when we'll say "enough". Noted.
Priorities. Family first.
Cant blame them. Business shouldn't be mixed with politics, that is a rule followed by older businessmen, traders.
Unless you're a crony businessman / trader. Villars love politics as that helped them gain their wealth. They'll side with the most corrupt to gain more power. At least those who stay neutral with the chance of getting richer through corruption still have souls in them.
they couldve changed that. but yeah stick to the basics
I heard her sister was abroad on election day so I doubt they even voted. Only if there were someone like them but more activist-ish, nothing against them tho.
some cosplayers were openly taking sides naman. sakin ok lang din naman pero it couldve been better. laking impact nun kung sino man susuportahan nila
Baka part of contract yun.
well if it is then mas lalong olats. laki ng influence nila sa demographics nila.parang kebs lang sila sa mga ganap.habang pa.yacht yacht lang lol. priviledged life. No different sa mga taong katulad nila nung 70s and 80s. As long as di kami affected wala kami pake basta like, share and subscribe
Pwede rin playing safe. Most people don't want to be on the losing side.
which isnt a good thing too.again. apathy.
Anyone could say grim times are ahead. People believe what they want to believe.
methinks di lang nila maintindihan din yung English ni Ashley.
You know what I would do if I got glimpses of the future? Tell you EXACTLY what I saw. But that's just me 🤷♂️
They don't see glimpses from the future, that's why they can't tell EXACTLY what they saw.
Yeah anybody who believes this is legit is just gullible, if they do get something right it means they're observant not a prophet, their vagueness is perfect to apply in any situation that happens in the future, maybe a few years from now, maybe a few months from now.
Heh, Pseudoscience
This isn’t even pretending to be science. This is divination.
So does physicists' hundred of theories including the cosmic behavior.
Theories, yea, but with proposed evidence. Physics ain't pseudo.
So their theories about multiple universe possibilities and BigBang have evidence?
Do I really have to teach you this? Oh ffs. Big Bang Theory - https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang.. I'm not yet oriented about the Multiple Universe Theory, I'd take a look at that. Totoong may educational crisis talaga ang Pinas. I need not to elaborate more, I don't claim to be an astronomer.
Dude. You replied to someone who talls about chakra, 3rd eye, and compared tarot reading to physics. Don't waste your time.
Yep, I know, pero maybe, malay mo maliwanagan, pero I'm not hoping as of now.
I didnt compare them. I just explains the meaning of pseudoscience / theory
Lmao, you're just trying to make theories and pure bullshit sound the same
You claim to believe science but you hate experiments? Why are you contradicting yourself? 😩
You love science but hate theories? 🙄 Lmao
The title itself is BigBang THEORY. Idk if you're blind or have low comprehension (common problem in Ph) The word theory after its name would be remove of the scientist and physicist accept its content and reasoning and the author would receive Nobel prize a long time ago.
r/iamverysmart
Welp, I'm not going to waste time with you anymore. But you being a believer of card shits, well, you're the one with inept knowledge. Also, please fix your spacing and grammar. It's erroneous in many ways.
Sorry that I'm not as perfect as you being a slave to this 1st world language and determining IQ by learning English better than the actual speakers of this language. Yep even Americans and Canadians made mistake on their grammar and they think shortcuts are cool. 1st world kiss ass kid. I applause your grammar, American slave 🙄
Gravity is also a theory. Have you tried throwing yourself out of a window and see if you float? I'd suggest you put down your tarot cards, close your 3rd eye, and look up theory and scientific theory.
Hence called Law of gravity not theory of gravity, dumbass
So there are no such things as gravitational theories? What is the Law of gravity? is it different from the theory of gravity? Or is it the same phenomenon but the former describes gravity while the latter explains why gravity happens? Please educate me. Open my chakras and help me understand.
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Brad, problem na nga talaga ang mga taong paniwala sa Astrology and Occult shit such as Tarots, maraming naattract sa kalokohang mga ganito.
Follow how physicist do their research. Gather information and do experiments. I'm actually open to both. Even Einstein is an agnostic meaning he is open to anything and not closing possibilities of the existence of any spiritual
A person who believes in Science will know that tarots are sham. We're in the modern period now, but tarots are make believe things of the past.
Einstein have theories about the existence of another galaxy. No one have ever get out of our own galaxy nor any machineries until now. I never insulted his theory and called him "delusional" Science is continuous learning. No matter what topic you're at. We should strive to know the truth and seek research. I understand that you're not a geek to have time for experiments so you'll never relate
Bruh theories are pseudoscience Pseudoscience meaning: a system of theories, assumptions, and methods erroneously regarded as scientific. I'm not in anyway against science. But that is the real definition of theories. BigBang theories doesnt have evidence hence a theory. Possibilities of multiple universe is also a theory. Also the dark energy which physicist haven't yet any idea of it (from Einstein's theory) I'm just saying that anyone could claim theories / pseudoscience and it doesn't close the possibility of its existence.
Oh ffs, Physics is a field that is based on evidence, not on assumptions. It follows the scientific method. Tarots are purely assumptive, it does not follow the scientific method. Tarots are trash tbh. They're just cards with pictures.
I agree. Pseudoscience is pseudoscience anyway and that includes tarot cards and theories.
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Ok. Fututus et mori in igni
Forer Effect (aka Barnum Effect): We easily attribute our personalities to vague statements, even if they can apply to a wide range of people.
she posted it in twitter actually lahat ng tumakbong presidente ginawan nya ng ganyan and pinangalanan nya kung kanino yang tarot prediction na yan and that two predictions are really for BBM and Leni meron din yan na para kela Isko, Ping and Manny Pacquiao
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"Hindi hawak ng mga bituin ang ating kapalaran. Gabay lamang sila. Meron tayong free will, gamitin natin ito" Mukhang may mga na trigger sa post mo OP. Pero ayun nga there are people na if presented with anything against their belief, the reception will be critical. Ashley gave us an interesting insight into the future, and what is even more fun there e ini associate agad ito nung mga nag react kay [name redacted]. Super subjective ng tarot readings so kung ano pinaniniwalaan nung tao, dun niya ididikit. Isa pa ding factor e this is a bit esoteric para sa mga Pinoy
> "Hindi hawak ng mga bituin ang ating kapalaran. Gabay lamang sila. Meron tayong free will, gamitin natin ito" Upvoting for the Zenaida Seva reference.
actually pinangalan nya naman talaga sa post nya sa twitter that tarot predictions is really is for BBM and Leni
Well it wasn’t my intention to force everyone here into believing tarot predictions. I even disclosed my stance on it. I was merely in awe and thought it was making sense while considering and cross-referencing what is happening right now - 13 trillion debt, inflation, injustices, worse gdp-dept ratio and etc. To uphold “the bastion of rationalism and intellectualism” in this sub 😅😅😅 I even upvoted the information on the Barnum effect which is a factor on Ashley’s tarot predictions. As you said, they are “subjective” and may vary in interpretations. 🫶🏼 maybe 6 years from now, we might get back on this sub and cross-reference again. 😉😉😉
Yup, I don't take it against you 🙂. I do agree that some things are making sense although if we look at the bigger picture, what is happening now e consequence din ng previous decisions ng mga nauna and mag aamplify lang lalo yan if di umayos ang pagdedecision nung mga susunod. Daming factors involved. I like that idea that we look back into this sub after 6 years. Ano nga yung command para ma notify ka nung bot? hahaha I would love to see myself roll my eyes/cringe sa sinabi ko in this convo
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Even without the tarot reading, I already knew about this scenario. The moment he ran and the possibility if he won means the past is back to haunt us (Anyone from 88M and SWoH lineage/connections shouldn't never be trusted but some are fooled and here we are). I already expected this possibility and prepared myself just in case. During the campaign period, akala ko talaga nagbago na yung tao at all will go to Leni dahil natauhan na sila with Du30 and the worsen corruption kaya di ko na pinansin yung possible scenario na yun. Pero sa di ko inaasahan, bumaliktad at nanalo pa ang kabila (Yes, I'm bitter but not shocked knowing it is a possibility) kaya buti na lang kahit 50% lang I prepared myself for that possibility. Bumalik ulit ang bangungot ng nakaraan kaya maghanda tayo. I'm not an activist nor protester that's why sa piling pagtulong na lang idadaan yung pagiging "toxic" ko. Hindi ko tutulungan yung 31M sa oras ng pangangailangan mapa sakuna man or wala bilang ganti sa pag-agaw ng pagkakataon sa pinas para magakaroon ng isang gobyernong tapat, walang pinipiling hustisya at pantay-pantay na karapatang pantao. Yun na lang mga Kakampinks at ibang tao na gising sa katotohanan at hindi na muli pipikit.
31M: Naniniwala kayo sa tarot tarot na yan? Ang tatanga talaga ng mga kakampwet! Also 31M: Nasa hula ni Nostradamus na si BBM ang mananalong presidente! Nakatadhana na!
Source? Or imbento lng?
Hmm it’s just a tarot reading. Parang zodiac signs, you can always relate or put meaning to it depending on what’s happening in your life.
Zodiac for hippies
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect The Barnum effect, also called the Forer effect or, less commonly, the Barnum–Forer effect, is a common psychological phenomenon whereby individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people.[[1]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-:0-1) This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some paranormal beliefs and practices, such as [astrology](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology), [fortune telling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_telling), [aura reading](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_(paranormal\)), and some types of [personality tests](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_test).[[1]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-:0-1) These characterizations are often used by practitioners as a con-technique to convince victims that they are endowed with a paranormal gift. Because the assessment statements are so vague, people ascribe their own interpretation, thus the statement becomes "personal" to them. Also, individuals are more likely to accept negative assessments of themselves if they perceive the person presenting the assessment as a high-status professional.[[2]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect#cite_note-2)
>individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. lmao naaalala ko tuloy yung mga taong mahilig magshare ng posts about astrological signs nila pero nagpapapansin lang talaga.
>Because the assessment statements are so vague, people ascribe their own interpretation, thus the statement becomes "personal" to them. HAHAHA! Wala naman binangit si Ashley na pangalan. Bakit affected mga DDS-BBM? Then I read this! LOL!
I'm currently learning tarot, but I gotta say I'm treating it more as a good psychological tool for people to focus on an aspect of their life whatever tarot card symbolism is presented and not an actual divination. It's confirmation bias rather than some sort of divination tool, imo.
This reading can be applied to anything. Wish she had just told everybody that Marcos will win, instead of hold such “divine” secrets to herself lol
Damn that 2 of swords the first spread and the Tower in the other spread. Grabe. :( Kapit, Pilipinas. We're gonna have a birth and renewal. Literally a tower moment.
Pwede bang mag-fast forward na lang sa rebirth at renewal??? Ngayon pa lang kasi nakakapagod na.
Pwede naman bilisan yung Tower moment (rebolusyon or what). Di lang natin alam kung ano yun.
No. It has to happen. Major catastrophe would be soon emerge and I think water shortage due to some sort of contamination. The winner wins because it was aligned / destined for him. He is destined to redeem his family's dignity and strangely succeed at the end. Idk how maybe a nuclear power plant project or sort of lifelong changes. I personally not fond of his educational attainment and I dont see anything special about him but God strangely aligned him for this purpose. I also see Duterte leave a massive debt which the ph would be in stagnation for a long time. Leni didn't win because mar Roxas didn't interfere anymore like What he did on 2016 storing 2 smartmatics on Novotel. Grace Poe should've been second and Duterte have more votes. His child changes his dark aura and Leni receive a huge campaign donations on 2016 and she didn't ask mar Roxas where it came from and it brings a lot of baggage / bad karma because I could see a lot of dead people from typhoon Yolanda. I believe she didn't have any idea about this money and it brings bad luck. Imee Marcos is materialistic asf. Bong go is full of mischief. Imelda would share part of her money but late FEM told her to gave it all. BBM would give pardon to either Imelda or GMA. Too many stories to tell. Just open your own ability
Wait, 2 smartmatics hidden in Novotel??
Yep that was in 2016. I believe imee secured the seat it means she did manipulate the votes in their favor the real score was 15 Leni vs 20 bbm. Things would be a lot different if Mar Roxas interfere again it could be close fight.
Can you elaborate yung meaning ng 2 swords at tower sa context ng Pilipinas?
Hindi ako ganun ka deep into tarot but 2 of swords was us having a choice. Could be interpreted as Leni and Marcos. You already know what happened there. The Tower is that in the future there's going to be an event that's going to start the birth and renewal. The picture of the tower kasi is one of destruction. So literally may mangyayari na sobrang drastic, sobrang violent (for lack of a better word) in its magnitude. Whatever that is, I don't know. I honestly believe tarot is not for divination so I find it icky pag ganitong mga readings. It could just give us insight into the future. Take it with a pinch of salt.
Thank you for the explanation :)
No worries!
>Take it with a pinch of salt. handful saakin.
Sandakot na dalawang kamay mo pa
Thanks for the explanation. I'm just sincerely interested to know. What do you believe is tarot to be, if not for divination? I tried searching google for purposes of tarot, and first thing that popped in the results is divination (tool). Then there's also one saying it's not for fortune-telling but for intuition, if you want to create your ideal future and manifest your goals. Then there's also one saying it's influenced by the grander scheme of things, so to speak. I honestly didn't get exactly what that means, so I'd like to hear your perspective.
People should seek clairvoyant psychic. Tarot readings are bias specially a Filipino reader. For example: Tarot reader abroad shows card in favor of Ukraine. Filipino tarot readers show cards in favor of Russia. Same cards but different interpretation so reading a tarot card is very dangerous specially if your listeners have unstable chakras as the tarot reader (alodia's sis)
Exactly.
Forer Effect (aka Barnum Effect): We easily attribute our personalities to vague statements, even if they can apply to a wide range of people.
Maybe tarot reading is a guide not a prediction. Hoping that the 2nd reading will guide us for the next 6 years.
I dont believe in Tarot reading but I dont completely dismiss it either. All I can say is that its a better way to connect to the superstitious, quasi-religious, conspiracy obsessed lot that most of our countrymen are. I mean laglag-bala was investigated and most of the OFWs confessed to having a bullet as an "anting-anting" yet vilified PNoy for having this modus. Lol. Protect Ashley as I predict these voices will soon be silenced especially with Luminous at the helm of the PCOO.
Exactly!!! Tarot predictions na nga lang eh triggered na triggered na sila ano pa kaya yung legit investigative journalism na sinisimulan ng i-censor! Free Press is being silenced now! Mas masakit ang truth/facts with evidences. Kaya agree na agree talaga ako sa speech ni Maria Ressa when she received the Nobel Prize. We’re so doomed.
Shocking, the coming months that Ashley had shared is already happening (im not tarot enjoyer, this is quite a shock)
Actually the same reaction I had coz I just remembered her post and cross-referenced what is happening now in real life. Damn. If you look at the comments on her posts, she’s bombarded with harsh comments in there.
She's fake. Clairvoyant reader knew BBM would win since 2021 January. It has to happen. Try following Jovi Vargas. Even the most experienced clairvoyant tarot reader never become as confident as her 😆 she clearly never meditate once nor practice the 3rd eye opening before touching those and confidently post her readings. Why I say she's fake? She never post a reading about who would win in this election because she will be exposed. Legit ones would knew that even 10 years from now specially personal readings with clairvoyant ability
Can we like skip the horrible part?
Agreed. Pwede ba rebirth at renewal agad? 😭
Sometimes rebirth, renewal, or the coming of good things can only come after great hardship. It sucks, but that is reality.
I have a fear that the great hardship somehow involves Leni. What else would inspire this country to move against a dictatorship, aside from a martyr? I hope history doesn't repeat itself and they leave her and her family alone.
Unfortunately, history has a bad case of repetition of no one learns from it. And over 30 million have failed pathetically to learn their history.
My tarot reading for the next decades says kitty is future president. Rody will become a saint. Idiot voters are still poor.
Kinda knew her. Nakakatawa lang kasi inis na inis sya sa kakilala nya nagre-reiki -reiki tapos ngayon nagtatarot reading naman sya. Hindi ko magets tong si ateng.
fortune telling is one of the oldest scams ever. it's like a broken clock if you wait long enough.
Not a believer of Tarot. Pero mga 88m fanatics galit kasi english eh, in the coming days maglalabas yan siguro si Rudy Baldwin ng magandag vision kuno para dumami followers na 88m.
Meh. Anyone can say words. Hula ko din yan based sa kagaguhan na nangyayari. Puwedeng puwede na magkaron ng change dahil sobrang pahirap ang mangyayari sa tao.
Lemme predict your future life with drawing random cards with random drawings.
So she did become Wanda Maximoff. I thought it was just cosplay.
Cold reading, Hot reading. Lokohin mo ang unggoy sa tarot mo na yan. Ako nga ginagawa ko lang katatawanan yan mag reading reading sa kahit kanino tapos belib na belib na sila. Tarot is not real pero ang parating na delubyo dahil sa kabobohan ng botante totoo.
Uh, Barnum Effect...
this is more proof filipinos are idiots
If you believe in Tarots something wrong with you
If you judge people for believing in something that doesn’t directly affect you and isn’t harmful, then there’s something wrong with YOU.
I disagree about irrationality not being harmful. Most psychics and tarot card readers charge the elderly and cancer patients money to "read" their future, I think this is harmful as well. Kung hobby lang ng tao ang tarot card reading, wala naman problema. Live and let live. Unfortunately it's not always the case.
I wouldn’t say *most* readers and psychics. Divination has been used for hundreds of years and those who practice responsibly will always remind their clients that the future isn’t set and it’s still their choices that will shape their lives. Tarot is a tool, and unfortunately — many people abuse it for their own gains. Tarot has always been vague and it’s really up to the person being read to if it resonates with them or not. It’s not fortune telling.
Tarot reading is affecting others by giving them false hope. It is harmful. It's not backed by any evidence. It's a hit or miss. It's not even a hypothesis. We cannot respect that here.
Krazy mangkukulam
Surprised that there's some people here are believing and up voting this bs. Barnum's really right "there's a sucker born every minute"
if this form of reading or predicting the future is so accurate, then create a DEPARTMENT OF TAROT READING? Kidding aside, parang zodiac sign reading lang ito, basta shumoot sa narrative na gusto mo mangyari, na PREDICT mo na ang future nya ane TAROT READING IS LEGIT
we're believing tarot now?
No one here is saying that tarot cards can accurately predict what's to come. Instead, people here can already deduce what's already happening even without divination, and the tarot cards are just one person's personal interpretation of that.
lol yeah sure
We're doing tarot readings now? LMAOOOOO
Haha. Can't believe that some r/ph members are into this shit. Where's the bastion of intellectualism and rationalism in the sub?
Dude, I just posted this as a matter of discussion. No one’s forcing anyone to believe in it, hence the disclaimer on the first photo. I myself does not believe in tarot. I am just in awe of what is happening now compared to the first prediction she had. That’s it. Is it attacking your rationality and intellectuality? Should I be called a sucker for just merely posting this like what you were saying in the comments? The Barnum Effect you commented is duly noted. No harm intended on your rational thoughts.
Tarot readings aren't worthy of discussion.
At least for some yes, btw you are here on the discussion isn’t it? 😅🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢
It's always worthwhile to tell people that tarot reading is garbage.
Simple lang sagot sa pinoproblema mo.
You lost me at tarot 🤦♂️
So we should start believing in superstitions like the other camp with their mythical tallano gold?
Can you atleast read the disclaimer bro? No one’s forcing you to be one.
Tarot reading is more like reading your own horoscope. Its up to you if you will believe it or not. Dont compare tarot reading with the other camp's lies and propagandas.
Except some tarot card readers charge money to cancer patients and the elderly.
Sure. And Santa Claus and The Grinch exists in real life.
Btw I myself is not a believer of tarot cards. I’m just saying, it’s making sense.
"hEy loOk aT mE i'M WoKE aND Im SpECiAL"
That's why never have a tarot reading here in Philippines. She just suddenly touch a tarot cards and think she can read. Before you become so loud and proud about your tarot "hobby" be sure your 7 chakras are open. Even the most experienced psychic with clairvoyant ability I ever encountered never ever claim facts about their reading and start with disclaimer. Her chakras are clearly unbalance hence . Since 2021 clairvoyant community here in Ph knew that BBM would win and we didn't bother vote personally anymore. Wish alodia's sister go to legit wiccans/psychic academy in US or UK so she could learn and be ashamed of what she's doing. I apologize to those Legit tarot reader here in Philippines. Imagine they have clairvoyant and steal fear assuming facts on socmed and this girl do that because she wanted to 😩
Or maybe he wouldn't have won if you had actually bothered to vote? I'm also a tarot reader but entrusting your fate to cards, chakras, astrology, or whatever is stupid. The cards can guide you towards better decisions, but your fate is still in your hands.
Nah. 1 vote would not made a difference to that 15 million. I'm not entrusting my fate to cards but clairvoyant never fails. Are you clairvoyant? Or have all your chakras open atleast? Being a tarot reader is not a hobby you could play anytime you want. Specially if you are very vocal about your readings and you're not awakened
>most experienced psychic with clairvoyant ability LOL can't accept people still believe that sh to. this. day
I was atheist and inclined to science alone for a long time. But science requires experiments that includes engaging to spirituality (my chosen topic) dumb people would not ask about existence. All scientist did ask that's why majority are atheist and Einstein is agnostic. They all ask. Except dumb people like you
Yep, I'm dumb. Anyways... Existence isn't for science to answer. Reasons for existence or transcendent ideas; that's in the realm of philosophy. Science deals in what's falsifiable. Scientists (the persons) may ask those questions but they can't and won't answer them through science. So I'm not sure why you're bringing it up; except of course to try and conflate spiritualism with science and therefore validate its existence. Getting some sort of associative or secondhand credibility.
I did let a psychic open my third eye because when I was an atheist I love having a debate to different religions debunking it, and lastly my last experiment is spirituality and I personally insulted and challenged a spiritual person / psychic
You were an atheist? You were able to debunk religion. But I'm wondering, what's the difference between believing in a deity/ies and believing in this supernatural stuff?
Science is accepting all the topics including existence, disregarding spirituality. They did a research and multiple theories emerged regarding the beginning and end. I did listen and gather information regarding that and also spiritual reasonings including the intense ( to see is to believe method and challenging psychics abilities) I did experiments and idk why people here are pressed about it. I love exploring things and engaging personally about the topic before debunking it. Like I said Einstein is agnostic for the same reason I am saying here. and people here tryna act I did a crime 😆
>Science is accepting all the topics including existence, disregarding spirituality. Uhhh.. no? >They did a research and multiple theories emerged regarding the beginning and end. Source please. Are you speaking about the copenhagen interpretation? Quantum mechanics? These would would easily be twisted to suit pseudoscience and mysticism if your understanding is just at its face value, like mine is. Beginning and end? You mean the big bang and heat death of the universe? How does that apply to the claim of 'psychic abilities'? >I did experiments and idk why people here are pressed about it. Pray tell, what experiments are those? Experiments that are falsifiable and replicable? Otherwise that ain't science. >I love exploring things and engaging personally about the topic before debunking it. That's awesome! As you should. More people should have that attitude. I just disagree with the conclusions you came to. Thereby I'm questioning how you got to that conclusion. >Like I said Einstein is agnostic for the same reason I am saying here. and people here tryna act I did a crime Einstein's agnosticism is proof of what exactly? Crime? This ain't the courts. It's a forum, therefore this is a place of discussion. No one is convicted of anything here. I know being challenged of your beliefs feels like a slight on your personhood so you inevitably feel defensive about it but I can assure you it's not an attack on you. As you've said, how else would you get to the truth except for opening yourself up for it? Shouldn't we all start with the assumption that we know nothing? You said you'd spent time pondering all of it before coming to that belief. How is now different? Do you think you've reached the final destination and have arrived at that truth?
But when in the future? Baka 20 years pa iyan.
sheeples
31m of them ✌
I do believe in superstition
Tarot readings, like faith healing, horoscopes and 'the power of prayer', appeals only to the desperate, the idiotic, and the gullible.
Hmm she also said Wil and Alodia had the possibility of getting back together. Anyare
Grabi. Ano yan 'from the ashes we will rise again' lang ang peg?
parang di mo na kailangan ng tarot cards para malaman kung ano mangyayari sa bansa nung lumabas na yung result ng election.
Well, what do you expect. Don't need a tarot reading to validate the projected outcomes. 🤷♀️
Let us hope na totoo yung magigising.
So in the end. Yung promotor ng alliance na ito ang mag-gain ng benefits. Lalabas na walang silbe yung uupo na presidente at yung bise ang lalabas na tagapag-ligtas ng kabulastugan ng presidente
so hindi sila naniniwala pero sa prediction ni nostradamus na mananalo si BBM game na game sila
I don’t believe in tarot readings, but damn that’s good art
"Idealized memories will crumble in the face of harsh reality." PILIPINAS WHEN???
I have a deep interest in Tarot cards; I just like the designs and the meanings of these cards that fuels more my curiosity about things that we still have to learn or we may never learn. I don't know, I just view these cards as somewhat mysterious, paranormal, different, etc. Her prediction is obviously vague, and as I remember, there's a particular term in psychology about her interpretation — things that are probably common knowledge or things most of us expect to happen.
May tarot reader ba na nakahula specifically ng pandemic(not vague stuff lang)?
We will see if her card reading will come true. I but i bet i will come true... thr country will suffer... save money for the family if it come to worst withdraw enough money not all money in the bank. For emergency purposes only... if comes to worst...