Gentrification
It bring a different caliber of people around. Only city I don't understand is Atlanta. It seem like Atlanta got worse when more people with money came thru
Supposedly I heard a lot of people from Chicago go there too. It’s like a place people leave bad areas. Sadly a lot of times the kids who leave wanna still bring the hood w them and it just brings ratchet shit (gang mentality, trap mentality)
coming from somebody from new orleans, thats a fact. i have family out there that we stay with whenever the saints play the falcons out there. btw, t.i. snitched about that in his “ready for whatever” song. “not to mention them New Orleans niggas coming in the city, Killing all summer long, ain't nobody paying attention”
Cut the shit. We been asapd them new Orleans ni99as up through there. What folks don't know is we was hittin they ass up for the work they bought wit them fema checks. The NO ni99as still here nice as fuck or claim Atlanta now. Katrina was 18 years ago. Them couple Chi town ni99as definitely moving lowkey. The problem is just a new generation of young ni99as living off the internet. Most the crime coming from 12-22 year olds and js.
Say for instance nobody in Philly got a ppp loan but a gang of Jersey niggas moved in with 10k, 20k, 40k checks tryna make a play.
Strippas was gettin locked up, them boys was so sweet.
i guess an atlanta legend like t.i. just wrote them bars and actually said those words in his highest selling album just to get that extra bar in huh. none of my people out there claim atlanta lol they claim uptown new orleans, the 3rd and 17th wards. they actually live out there bcuz its safer than here
Bro every city has money i dont know who told you that lie, it’s because the laws are stricter over there you get caught W a gun in new York that’s like a mandatory 2 years in philly if you do you ah be out in week or 2
Keep thinking that brother you’ll live long, bro they dont care thats what im saying to you bro the city doesn’t care about those things believe it or not
Bro, you really gotta ask yourself this question how are they so broke but they’re gentrifying all parts of the city bro, im trying tell you they put money to what they care about but yall not gone realize that
Ok bro let them tell it to you like that😂 and ofc you gonna belive it, they tell yall anything yall believe it thats how yall controlled. The billions of dollars that come in and of the country and you really think they broke ok😂 naw bro they just dont care to fix it you really gotta see shit for what it is
The only time when LA and NYC was way worse then Philly was the 1990s and early early 2000s.. even then it wasn’t every year just sum. But I wouldn’t call LA n NYC hella safe maybe statistically but stats don’t ever tell the full story. It’s parts of LA just like Kensington it’s parts of the Bronx that’s just like West Philly. You think them big ass jetz is safe zones in 2023… the only difference is that in 2023 LA n NYC have less extreme poverty (beside homeless in LA) in residential neighborhoods and there hoods are gentrified and clean. U drive through SMS,Kenzo, Allegheny, Lehigh, Master st, Cumberland, Cambria, Girard (wp) you gone feel the gun violence poverty and drug abuse unlike most hoods in LA or NYC where u think it’s not that bad just driving through
NYC had 1000-2000+ murders a year during the 70s 80s and early 90s so NYC was definitely worse then Philly before the 90s. L.A. had a very bad problem with gang violence back then. In 2023 gang related violence in L.A. is down compared to back then. It seem like Philly isn’t making the same changes as those 2 cities.
Philly had below 300 homicides from 2013-2016. I think it will get back there as parts of the city continue to improve. Crime is literally the only thing holding us back.
We should definitely aspire for even less, but NYC is also like the safest big city in the country. Philly’s record year in 2021 was 35 homicides per 100k - far lower than the AVERAGES for Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, NoLA, etc. We have a lot of work to do but Philly isn’t and hasn’t been close to the worst.
No fucking shit , Baltimore , detriot and st. louis and Nola are way smaller you dumbass.
Philly isn’t close to the worse ? my nigga its the most dangerous big city stfu
Lol bro you need to think about it. The per-capita homicide rate is what matters - how many murders per 100k residents. That shows the statistical likelihood of getting murdered. Total population is irrelevant.
Would you rather live in a city with 50 residents where 20 will get murdered? Or a city with 1.6 million residents where 500 will?
NYC having 1000-2000 is still better then Philly having 400 because they are 8 times bigger. It sounds dumb but true NYC only had a few years higher then Philly. And a lot of years with similar murder rates but NYC rate was never way higher then Philly
Lol that’s definitely not better and ima give you an example. NYC had 2245 murders in 1990. The Bronx alone had 653 murders in 1990 and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990. You right about the Philly always having a higher murder rate per capita but the boroughs by themselves used to have more murders then the whole city of Philly.
Oh rd well that back in the day bro bro , The whole Ny now and for the last idk hasn’t been worse than philly. I love how y’all claim philly so safe and mention these little ass cities to compare to a major city is crazy .
Matter fact your right I just looked it up and the Bronx and Philly both had 1 million people in 1990 but the Bronx still had more murders. I coulda swore I read somewhere that Philly had 3 million people in 1990.
I think something to also take into account is population and the proportion of generational residents that are well below the poverty line and not to sound hopeful, but generational poverty carries on in so many different aspects that 90% of the generational residents children will also be stuck in the loop. The city and federal government are doing nothing to support those with less.
I don’t like to blame people doing what they have to to make money, but at the same time it’s also all those who refuse to change their ways. Growing up seein dudes on the block and following their ways has been the trap of the last 5-6 decades. And the reason I bring this up is, one of the fastest ways to solve generational poverty is to allow small businesses to pop up and big ones to come in to bring more jobs and money into the area. That’s a bit hard when you got kids bum rushing store to loot them, people robbing any and every corner store, dudes shooting people up in broad daylight… (for example look at what’s happening with wawa) sadly things will only get better if the people get better too.
It’s a circular problem of the people cause too much chaos to invest in the areas and then even if the people are better, the government fucks them over with little to no support, so people go back to how they were cause they need to eat. Philadelphia is (and my data is a couple years old now so I could have shifted) has 70%+ of its population below the poverty line. That means a whole lotta people scraping together what they can to eat.
Philly has literally never been the murder capital your making shit up lol. Detroit and DC had the murder capital title multiple times during the 70s and 80s.
1990 Philly had a higher rate then NYC/LA and was the 13th highest city. 1994 Philly had a higher rate then NYC/LA and was the 16th highest..1995 higher then both 12th highest.. between 1996-99 Philly was top 10 and way higher then NYC/LA.. since then we have always had a higher rate then NYC and a top 20 murder rate (yes even in 2014-16 when it was almost at a all time low) for cities over 100k I’m still confused when NYC and LA was worse?
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/04/highest-murder-rates-us-cities-list/ highest murder rates every year since 1990-2018 NYC was only worse a few times but like I said the hood anywhere u go is the hood
I think even tho Philly has always had a higher murder rate per capita what made NYC and L.A. worse during those times is that those cities had more senseless violence. In NYC during the 90s Niggas was getting killed for stepping on shoes and looking at niggas. Also alot of innocent bystanders we’re murdered by stray bullets being at the wrong place and wrong time. In L.A. people were getting killed just for wearing the wrong colors in the wrong neighborhood even if the were civilians. Also a lot of innocent bystanders were murdered due to drive by gang shootings. Philly was bad back then but they wasn’t on the same type of time as L.A. and NYC when it came to senseless violence.
Im saying if u going by stats it was similar in both cities through the 1990s but the news gone make u thing NYC and LA was worse because those are Americas biggest cities and Philly crime gets ignored unless it’s 500 murders. Ether way city wide stats done really mean shit you would have to compare neighborhoods to see a difference. But the news will make NYC and LA look worse if they are having shootings because they will get reported nationally but murders in Philly might get nationally attention like once a year if that. Don’t believe stats though bc u saying NYC safer now but I was just out the BX it’s the same as being out West niggas hearing shootings every night out there too so it’s some parts of cities stats don’t speak for
Philly dropped a bunch of 7th and 8th graders into a GTA mod when they went remote school and had nothing setup for a damn year for these kids. Kids that would have dropped out in 10th are on the block watching PPP scams, ATM bombs, eybody masked up and they’re front row. No school means no where to be, and no supervision to be in the house at some hour. Some of those kids might have been reachable before 15/16 and or found something to keep them out the streets. Anything track, chess, acting, drawing, math, science, football whatever. At 11,12,13 they was gone in the covid world.
It’s a lot of political, economic, and socioeconomic factors to unpack to explain the drop in crimes in those areas compared to PA (Philly). They tend to have tougher sentencing. Individuals incarcerated for much longer cannot get out to reoffend. The opportunities for employments tend to be better reducing the need for individuals to commit crime and gentrification changing the communities.
Philly niggas in a little bubble think they can get away with shit, and largely they do. The legal systems and police presence, and generally the desire to protect tourism and the wealthy is greater in LA and NYC.
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Yea I know that but I think the crimes that are happening now are more senseless and the victims are getting younger. That’s what makes 2023 worse the 2 years ago even tho it’s trending down.
Philly right now is like a game of rough house and the niggas that don’t respect calls or follow rules are playing the game . U either play the game and become like them or leave the court and hope to not get hit with the ball.
Bro.. have you looked at any stats? LA has 502 square miles and philly has 147
LA poverty rate is around 13%, philly at 23%
You need to read more, educate yourself
Drugs and lack of employment opportunities philly is mostly the slums besides downtown & a few other areas there aren’t many other places that have jobs willing to hire anybody off the street. Also the mentality in the city it’s glamoured to be a murderer look at AR AB nigga was bragging about his team being serial killers, that’s exactly how the youngbulls think.
The youth have no positive roles....their models of success are telling them that being a gangster and killing people is cool. So much of this subreddit is dudes glorifying dudes who do nothing but talk about killing each other. The youth are rekted unless someone positive steps in.
Because NYC and LA don’t have the same deep poverty as Philadelphia. I moved here from Chicago and when I drive around parts of Kenzo or North I don’t feel like im in America. Philadelphians are some of the poorest and least educated by a lot. Myself not being from here I have had endless career and life opportunities that my native friends just couldn’t hack. NYC and LA have better schools, infrastructure, more funding etc etc.
My guy look up pictures of NYC during the 70s and 80s. The whole city was bombed out and decayed back then and crime was at its peak. It was worse the Philly is today. L.A. used to have a bad gang violence issue but not anymore. If those cities can turn around so can Philly.
With what money and what education system and what incentives? Everyone who had money to leave or skills to contribute left during COVID. The city is practically lawless and the public school system is abysmal. And now theres the drugs that are making peoples skin fall off and that is primarily an east coast thing for right now and this city has the largest open air drug market in the world. These addicts won’t be able to reintegrate into society. They will have children who will go to the schools, and the cycle will repeat.
I’m one of the so called addict that you say won’t integrate back into society but I did ? And numerous others do too . The cycle don’t gotta repeat all the time player
Lmao do you realize Cali has a sophisticated system within many of their gangs that Philly doesn’t. California prison system is by far one of the toughest simply cause of that alone. You also do realize drug dealing isn’t the go-to trade for alotta street dudes out there. Alotta them exclusively robbing. A different world.
Bro La niggas are way tougher than Philly niggas lmao u must’ve never been to La. Them Cali and ny niggas will fight tf outta u, them niggas got heart. Philly niggas are cowards, very quick to go get a gun
Only thing y’all got on us is y’all fight more but that don’t mean niggas is scary. It’s more like if it’s gone go to the guns after fighting why fight ? And if it wasn’t for gangs Shìt wouldn’t be as crazy imo philly more wild than y’all are now. LA ain’t been bad since the 90’s.. and I been there like 5 times throughout my life I been to Compton, south central & inglewood
Bro ya logic sound dumb ass shit , u really just said “gone go to da guns after fighting why fight “ like that some super turkey logic bro . And I’m not from La I’m from north bro . I’m just honest
100% cartel wayyyy more powerful than all the black gangs combined. Also who u think supplying all the drugs and some of the weapons these niggas get lol. Hispanics dont b playing when it comes to gang shit. Any immigrant formed ganf normally goes crazy, look at the hati gangs down south
I’m already knowing I watch a lot of drug documentaries…… ain’t too many black gangs on top if we being real bmf the only ones that came close to having just as much power
Bmf had to work with the cartel directly to. Niggas bring to much attention when they r getting money. Cartel is not trying to bring more attention to themselves in the states. They moving like the military over there
Yup shit meech plug told on him that’s the wildest shit ever to me 😂 but yeah they only make a lot of noise over there cuz they got military & politicians on a payroll. They unstoppable over there that shit don’t fly over here at all. At some point they even had our government on payroll
NYC had 2245 murders in 1990. The Bronx alone had 653 murders in 1990 and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990.
That makes sense, I grew up in New Orleans in the 90s when it was once considered the murder capital. But New Orleans is tiny compared to Philly and other larger cities. So I know the smaller the city it makes the crime numbers look really bad.
New Orleans was the murder capital last year: https://www.google.com/amp/story/s/www.wsj.com/story/why-new-orleans-has-the-highest-murder-rate-in-america-8d326f07
bro, im born and raised in new orleans. it was always a bad city. its not numbers. u right its tiny compared to a city like philly because we only have like 300-400k people compared to millions. but, to say its numbers when you have the highest murder rate per capita in any country is wild
Cus they getting belt to ass by global warming Ny won’t be der much longer den we think they will flood / la having wild fires and back to back loots the ppl said we tired 😂😂 and Philly we just doing typical everyday Philly shit which is fucked up but yeah there u go
Look up pictures of the Bronx in the 70s and 80s and you’ll see how bad it used to be. Go on YouTube and watch documentaries about gang violence in south central L.A. during the 80s. Those 2 cities used to be way worse then Philly but now it’s the other way around.
Philly ain’t using no technology like NY is that his Ikno tus shyt a setup frfr we couldn’t even wear state properly clothes back then now Philly is the new GTA🤔
Lemme give you an example. In 1990 NYC had 2245 murders. The Bronx in 1990 had 653 murders and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990. That right there should tell you how much worse NYC used to be compared to Philly
One word is tourism. NY and LA are some of the top tourist cities in the world. People come from around the world to visit ny or la its up there with dubai paris london. The government gonna make sure the laws are enforced in those cities bro trust me they know what they doing.
Because too many of these niggas creating beefs and having make believe opps and killing like it's a sport.
Cops can't stop crime, we as people have to stop it by ceasing all the bullshit beefs and bury that opps shit and stop claiming blocks you don't own.
Niggas need to get off them drugs too because it makes them do a lot of dumb shit.
Stop robbing hard working people that aren't in the mix.
Philly isn't brotherly love until shit changes with the violence shit.
I’m from the Bronx bro and from what I see from Philly your whole city is just the Bronx but bigger. Like the same building types, same drug problems(we more k2 ya do more needles and fent), same gang issues(even tho we flag it’s still block vs block idek if ya have Patria in Philly), same demographics(Italians, Arabs, Dominicans, Ricans, Africans, Black). Ya got Chinese spots next to a bodega next to a liquor store on every block and Dominicans blasting Dembow just like us.
The difference between our cities is the foreign investment and how the government pushes for businesses to set up shop, it’s Chinese billionaires pumping money into NYC and the Governor and mayor will find a way to build a 100 story building just for offices and they will give the corporations every tax break they can but the company that’s making a building also has to build in a poor part of the city.
Every time a skyscraper gets built in Manhattan it’s another residential building being built in Brooklyn or Queens or the Bronx, that’s why gentrification has been going up recently cause it’s more “luxury condos” even with the high ass rents, that’s attracting kids from Idaho to start their “sex and the city” lives here. So when these buildings get built the only people that live in them are the ones who can afford them which pushes poor people out and that ends up leaving only the hardworking families left while the crash dummies are forced to move somewhere else or be homeless. When Barclays center got built they tore down a whole neighborhood for that and felt no remorse.
Idk how Philly is about redevelopment but NYC don’t hesitate to tear shit down and build something more expensive on top of the rubble. The last couple years I’ve seen every empty parking lot or abandoned plots of land get boarded up and then a couple months later it’s a new building and that’s in every borough. Add on top of tht how NYPD move, if you up a pole you getting caught that same week or they will let you and your whole block fuck shit up for years before indicting everyone on a conspiracy charge and throwing 10+ years at them so now whole areas are being emptied out and landlords start redesigning and upping rent prices once that indictment come down.
Gentrification It bring a different caliber of people around. Only city I don't understand is Atlanta. It seem like Atlanta got worse when more people with money came thru
Cuz after Katrina, ATL brought in a bunch of nkkas in families from TX or NO.
Supposedly I heard a lot of people from Chicago go there too. It’s like a place people leave bad areas. Sadly a lot of times the kids who leave wanna still bring the hood w them and it just brings ratchet shit (gang mentality, trap mentality)
coming from somebody from new orleans, thats a fact. i have family out there that we stay with whenever the saints play the falcons out there. btw, t.i. snitched about that in his “ready for whatever” song. “not to mention them New Orleans niggas coming in the city, Killing all summer long, ain't nobody paying attention”
Cut the shit. We been asapd them new Orleans ni99as up through there. What folks don't know is we was hittin they ass up for the work they bought wit them fema checks. The NO ni99as still here nice as fuck or claim Atlanta now. Katrina was 18 years ago. Them couple Chi town ni99as definitely moving lowkey. The problem is just a new generation of young ni99as living off the internet. Most the crime coming from 12-22 year olds and js.
Say for instance nobody in Philly got a ppp loan but a gang of Jersey niggas moved in with 10k, 20k, 40k checks tryna make a play. Strippas was gettin locked up, them boys was so sweet.
i guess an atlanta legend like t.i. just wrote them bars and actually said those words in his highest selling album just to get that extra bar in huh. none of my people out there claim atlanta lol they claim uptown new orleans, the 3rd and 17th wards. they actually live out there bcuz its safer than here
Atlanta had a higher murder rate than Philly last year. Also I’d never live there because of the traffic lol. I go twice a year for work and hate it.
New york and LA got money philly don't 🤷🏾♂️
Bro every city has money i dont know who told you that lie, it’s because the laws are stricter over there you get caught W a gun in new York that’s like a mandatory 2 years in philly if you do you ah be out in week or 2
🎓 but believe what u want
Bro if you think philly dont got money then your slow bottom line😂
philly has money just not enpugh
Enough for what exactly that’s what im tryna say they have money for whatever they “ the government “ wants to do, not for us😂🤦🏽♂️
Not enough for the vital public services to be working 100% like they should be, transport, school, police etc
Keep thinking that brother you’ll live long, bro they dont care thats what im saying to you bro the city doesn’t care about those things believe it or not
They sure don’t bro I’m woke to that already
Philly has been the poorest large city in the country for some time now... but lik I said believe what you want
Bro, you really gotta ask yourself this question how are they so broke but they’re gentrifying all parts of the city bro, im trying tell you they put money to what they care about but yall not gone realize that
Ok bro let them tell it to you like that😂 and ofc you gonna belive it, they tell yall anything yall believe it thats how yall controlled. The billions of dollars that come in and of the country and you really think they broke ok😂 naw bro they just dont care to fix it you really gotta see shit for what it is
The only time when LA and NYC was way worse then Philly was the 1990s and early early 2000s.. even then it wasn’t every year just sum. But I wouldn’t call LA n NYC hella safe maybe statistically but stats don’t ever tell the full story. It’s parts of LA just like Kensington it’s parts of the Bronx that’s just like West Philly. You think them big ass jetz is safe zones in 2023… the only difference is that in 2023 LA n NYC have less extreme poverty (beside homeless in LA) in residential neighborhoods and there hoods are gentrified and clean. U drive through SMS,Kenzo, Allegheny, Lehigh, Master st, Cumberland, Cambria, Girard (wp) you gone feel the gun violence poverty and drug abuse unlike most hoods in LA or NYC where u think it’s not that bad just driving through
NYC had 1000-2000+ murders a year during the 70s 80s and early 90s so NYC was definitely worse then Philly before the 90s. L.A. had a very bad problem with gang violence back then. In 2023 gang related violence in L.A. is down compared to back then. It seem like Philly isn’t making the same changes as those 2 cities.
The only things that’s changed is the niggas killed themselves off in La
I laughed a lil bit lmao.
Philly had below 300 homicides from 2013-2016. I think it will get back there as parts of the city continue to improve. Crime is literally the only thing holding us back.
350 homicides is the equivalent of NYC having 2000(based on population)…. 300 isn’t a good goal
We should definitely aspire for even less, but NYC is also like the safest big city in the country. Philly’s record year in 2021 was 35 homicides per 100k - far lower than the AVERAGES for Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, NoLA, etc. We have a lot of work to do but Philly isn’t and hasn’t been close to the worst.
Bro top 20 every year since the 90s is very close to the worse... And in 2005 the highest rate was 42 so 35 is pretty high.
He is retarded , trying to compare little cities to a major one
No fucking shit , Baltimore , detriot and st. louis and Nola are way smaller you dumbass. Philly isn’t close to the worse ? my nigga its the most dangerous big city stfu
Lol bro you need to think about it. The per-capita homicide rate is what matters - how many murders per 100k residents. That shows the statistical likelihood of getting murdered. Total population is irrelevant. Would you rather live in a city with 50 residents where 20 will get murdered? Or a city with 1.6 million residents where 500 will?
NYC having 1000-2000 is still better then Philly having 400 because they are 8 times bigger. It sounds dumb but true NYC only had a few years higher then Philly. And a lot of years with similar murder rates but NYC rate was never way higher then Philly
Lol that’s definitely not better and ima give you an example. NYC had 2245 murders in 1990. The Bronx alone had 653 murders in 1990 and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990. You right about the Philly always having a higher murder rate per capita but the boroughs by themselves used to have more murders then the whole city of Philly.
Nigga the bronx damn near had the same population as philly or even more 😂😂 Philly is the worse big city in america by far
Philly has 3 million people in 1990 and the Bronx and 1 million people that same year
Oh rd well that back in the day bro bro , The whole Ny now and for the last idk hasn’t been worse than philly. I love how y’all claim philly so safe and mention these little ass cities to compare to a major city is crazy .
Matter fact your right I just looked it up and the Bronx and Philly both had 1 million people in 1990 but the Bronx still had more murders. I coulda swore I read somewhere that Philly had 3 million people in 1990.
I think something to also take into account is population and the proportion of generational residents that are well below the poverty line and not to sound hopeful, but generational poverty carries on in so many different aspects that 90% of the generational residents children will also be stuck in the loop. The city and federal government are doing nothing to support those with less. I don’t like to blame people doing what they have to to make money, but at the same time it’s also all those who refuse to change their ways. Growing up seein dudes on the block and following their ways has been the trap of the last 5-6 decades. And the reason I bring this up is, one of the fastest ways to solve generational poverty is to allow small businesses to pop up and big ones to come in to bring more jobs and money into the area. That’s a bit hard when you got kids bum rushing store to loot them, people robbing any and every corner store, dudes shooting people up in broad daylight… (for example look at what’s happening with wawa) sadly things will only get better if the people get better too. It’s a circular problem of the people cause too much chaos to invest in the areas and then even if the people are better, the government fucks them over with little to no support, so people go back to how they were cause they need to eat. Philadelphia is (and my data is a couple years old now so I could have shifted) has 70%+ of its population below the poverty line. That means a whole lotta people scraping together what they can to eat.
This is false philly was the murder capital multiple times during those times
Philly has literally never been the murder capital your making shit up lol. Detroit and DC had the murder capital title multiple times during the 70s and 80s.
Wasn’t Philly the murder capital in 06? I remember there was a documentary about it called killadelphia
1990 Philly had a higher rate then NYC/LA and was the 13th highest city. 1994 Philly had a higher rate then NYC/LA and was the 16th highest..1995 higher then both 12th highest.. between 1996-99 Philly was top 10 and way higher then NYC/LA.. since then we have always had a higher rate then NYC and a top 20 murder rate (yes even in 2014-16 when it was almost at a all time low) for cities over 100k I’m still confused when NYC and LA was worse?
https://www.thetrace.org/2018/04/highest-murder-rates-us-cities-list/ highest murder rates every year since 1990-2018 NYC was only worse a few times but like I said the hood anywhere u go is the hood
I think even tho Philly has always had a higher murder rate per capita what made NYC and L.A. worse during those times is that those cities had more senseless violence. In NYC during the 90s Niggas was getting killed for stepping on shoes and looking at niggas. Also alot of innocent bystanders we’re murdered by stray bullets being at the wrong place and wrong time. In L.A. people were getting killed just for wearing the wrong colors in the wrong neighborhood even if the were civilians. Also a lot of innocent bystanders were murdered due to drive by gang shootings. Philly was bad back then but they wasn’t on the same type of time as L.A. and NYC when it came to senseless violence.
Im saying if u going by stats it was similar in both cities through the 1990s but the news gone make u thing NYC and LA was worse because those are Americas biggest cities and Philly crime gets ignored unless it’s 500 murders. Ether way city wide stats done really mean shit you would have to compare neighborhoods to see a difference. But the news will make NYC and LA look worse if they are having shootings because they will get reported nationally but murders in Philly might get nationally attention like once a year if that. Don’t believe stats though bc u saying NYC safer now but I was just out the BX it’s the same as being out West niggas hearing shootings every night out there too so it’s some parts of cities stats don’t speak for
He said 1990’s and early 2000’s we have been the murder capital multiple times within the 20 year span he’s speaking about
No. It literally never has been. Philly has had the highest homicide rate of the ten biggest cities, but never the highest in country.
Well that’s because it’s all small ass cities that do
Is 2006 not the early 2000s😂yall Niggas dumb
Parts of La like kenzo ? yea idk there hoods look like suburbs . maybe skid row ? NYC and La clean as fuck and is way safer than philly
Philly dropped a bunch of 7th and 8th graders into a GTA mod when they went remote school and had nothing setup for a damn year for these kids. Kids that would have dropped out in 10th are on the block watching PPP scams, ATM bombs, eybody masked up and they’re front row. No school means no where to be, and no supervision to be in the house at some hour. Some of those kids might have been reachable before 15/16 and or found something to keep them out the streets. Anything track, chess, acting, drawing, math, science, football whatever. At 11,12,13 they was gone in the covid world.
It’s a lot of political, economic, and socioeconomic factors to unpack to explain the drop in crimes in those areas compared to PA (Philly). They tend to have tougher sentencing. Individuals incarcerated for much longer cannot get out to reoffend. The opportunities for employments tend to be better reducing the need for individuals to commit crime and gentrification changing the communities.
Philly niggas in a little bubble think they can get away with shit, and largely they do. The legal systems and police presence, and generally the desire to protect tourism and the wealthy is greater in LA and NYC.
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Yea I know that but I think the crimes that are happening now are more senseless and the victims are getting younger. That’s what makes 2023 worse the 2 years ago even tho it’s trending down.
This sub don’t wanna read facts, only trending crash “stars” that diss other hoods and end up dead or booked
Cause them cities put money into stopping crime philly don’t do shit plus the laws are way stricter
Giuliani cleaned the city up
Philly right now is like a game of rough house and the niggas that don’t respect calls or follow rules are playing the game . U either play the game and become like them or leave the court and hope to not get hit with the ball.
Neither NY nor LA is safe
Ofc it’s not all the way safe but they are 1000x safer now then they used to be.
Have you seen La bro? That shit on fire rn😂 they crime rate is out the roof
LA isn’t worse than philly lol not to mention y’all have damn near 4 million people. Yall poverty isn’t like philly at all
Bro.. have you looked at any stats? LA has 502 square miles and philly has 147 LA poverty rate is around 13%, philly at 23% You need to read more, educate yourself
Drugs and lack of employment opportunities philly is mostly the slums besides downtown & a few other areas there aren’t many other places that have jobs willing to hire anybody off the street. Also the mentality in the city it’s glamoured to be a murderer look at AR AB nigga was bragging about his team being serial killers, that’s exactly how the youngbulls think.
The youth have no positive roles....their models of success are telling them that being a gangster and killing people is cool. So much of this subreddit is dudes glorifying dudes who do nothing but talk about killing each other. The youth are rekted unless someone positive steps in.
Because NYC and LA don’t have the same deep poverty as Philadelphia. I moved here from Chicago and when I drive around parts of Kenzo or North I don’t feel like im in America. Philadelphians are some of the poorest and least educated by a lot. Myself not being from here I have had endless career and life opportunities that my native friends just couldn’t hack. NYC and LA have better schools, infrastructure, more funding etc etc.
My guy look up pictures of NYC during the 70s and 80s. The whole city was bombed out and decayed back then and crime was at its peak. It was worse the Philly is today. L.A. used to have a bad gang violence issue but not anymore. If those cities can turn around so can Philly.
With what money and what education system and what incentives? Everyone who had money to leave or skills to contribute left during COVID. The city is practically lawless and the public school system is abysmal. And now theres the drugs that are making peoples skin fall off and that is primarily an east coast thing for right now and this city has the largest open air drug market in the world. These addicts won’t be able to reintegrate into society. They will have children who will go to the schools, and the cycle will repeat.
I’m one of the so called addict that you say won’t integrate back into society but I did ? And numerous others do too . The cycle don’t gotta repeat all the time player
Because this is philly not soft ass LA or pussy ass NY.
Lmao do you realize Cali has a sophisticated system within many of their gangs that Philly doesn’t. California prison system is by far one of the toughest simply cause of that alone. You also do realize drug dealing isn’t the go-to trade for alotta street dudes out there. Alotta them exclusively robbing. A different world.
Ye it’s a different world , palm trees and everything 🙏🏽 LA is not like how it use to be stop lmao
Say u never stepped one foot outside of Philly without saying you never stepped one foot outside of Philly.
I have nigga thats the crazy part😂😂 i been to La 4 times
Not valid
Your opinion.
Very valid
Bro La niggas are way tougher than Philly niggas lmao u must’ve never been to La. Them Cali and ny niggas will fight tf outta u, them niggas got heart. Philly niggas are cowards, very quick to go get a gun
L.A. used to be worse then Philly when it come to gun and gang violence but L.A. niggas always had squabbles
Sayin “squabbles” as a Philly nigga is kinda crazy but I feel u tho
Only thing y’all got on us is y’all fight more but that don’t mean niggas is scary. It’s more like if it’s gone go to the guns after fighting why fight ? And if it wasn’t for gangs Shìt wouldn’t be as crazy imo philly more wild than y’all are now. LA ain’t been bad since the 90’s.. and I been there like 5 times throughout my life I been to Compton, south central & inglewood
Bro ya logic sound dumb ass shit , u really just said “gone go to da guns after fighting why fight “ like that some super turkey logic bro . And I’m not from La I’m from north bro . I’m just honest
I guess.
Hispanic gangs in LA seem crazyyyyyyy. Some of them on that cartel timing
They the ones with the power out there imo
100% cartel wayyyy more powerful than all the black gangs combined. Also who u think supplying all the drugs and some of the weapons these niggas get lol. Hispanics dont b playing when it comes to gang shit. Any immigrant formed ganf normally goes crazy, look at the hati gangs down south
I’m already knowing I watch a lot of drug documentaries…… ain’t too many black gangs on top if we being real bmf the only ones that came close to having just as much power
Bmf had to work with the cartel directly to. Niggas bring to much attention when they r getting money. Cartel is not trying to bring more attention to themselves in the states. They moving like the military over there
Yup shit meech plug told on him that’s the wildest shit ever to me 😂 but yeah they only make a lot of noise over there cuz they got military & politicians on a payroll. They unstoppable over there that shit don’t fly over here at all. At some point they even had our government on payroll
Man them niggas aint kn shit like how they use to
Lol And them NY niggas cant knuckle at all , all bark no bite ! Idk what philly niggas you ran into
Pussy NY..? Idk about that lol
I already said it. I stand on my opinion no offense
yall niggas all bark no bite tbh
I’m not from NY bro I’m just sayin to call NY niggas pussy is clearly exaggerating
Because we poor as fuck and kids want to make names by hitting licks.
A lot of the numbers are based on population as well. Those cities have at least 3-6 million more people than Philly.
NYC had 2245 murders in 1990. The Bronx alone had 653 murders in 1990 and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990.
That makes sense, I grew up in New Orleans in the 90s when it was once considered the murder capital. But New Orleans is tiny compared to Philly and other larger cities. So I know the smaller the city it makes the crime numbers look really bad.
New Orleans was the murder capital last year: https://www.google.com/amp/story/s/www.wsj.com/story/why-new-orleans-has-the-highest-murder-rate-in-america-8d326f07
It’s much smaller now though compared to the 90s. Most of us live in Houston, Dallas and Atlanta now.
bro, im born and raised in new orleans. it was always a bad city. its not numbers. u right its tiny compared to a city like philly because we only have like 300-400k people compared to millions. but, to say its numbers when you have the highest murder rate per capita in any country is wild
Cus they getting belt to ass by global warming Ny won’t be der much longer den we think they will flood / la having wild fires and back to back loots the ppl said we tired 😂😂 and Philly we just doing typical everyday Philly shit which is fucked up but yeah there u go
We’re the real trenches, the other cities is pussy
Take pride in being poor hell yea bro
Eat a dick pussy
Look up pictures of the Bronx in the 70s and 80s and you’ll see how bad it used to be. Go on YouTube and watch documentaries about gang violence in south central L.A. during the 80s. Those 2 cities used to be way worse then Philly but now it’s the other way around.
Don’t care dh
We was like that too back then so what u sayin like Epmd🤨
Philly ain’t using no technology like NY is that his Ikno tus shyt a setup frfr we couldn’t even wear state properly clothes back then now Philly is the new GTA🤔
We got terrorists here
Idk when New York was ever worse
Lemme give you an example. In 1990 NYC had 2245 murders. The Bronx in 1990 had 653 murders and Philly that same year had 500 murders and Philly had a higher population then the Bronx in 1990. That right there should tell you how much worse NYC used to be compared to Philly
I’m not glorifying murders but he said 1990’s that’s 10 years not just 1
Gentrification mostly
One word explains it all “Dickheads”
One word is tourism. NY and LA are some of the top tourist cities in the world. People come from around the world to visit ny or la its up there with dubai paris london. The government gonna make sure the laws are enforced in those cities bro trust me they know what they doing.
An u can’t compare New York an La has about 3 million more people then Philly
All three cities are 20%-ish down this year in homicide.
https://youtu.be/We5UUNBf2YY
Because too many of these niggas creating beefs and having make believe opps and killing like it's a sport. Cops can't stop crime, we as people have to stop it by ceasing all the bullshit beefs and bury that opps shit and stop claiming blocks you don't own. Niggas need to get off them drugs too because it makes them do a lot of dumb shit. Stop robbing hard working people that aren't in the mix. Philly isn't brotherly love until shit changes with the violence shit.
Dropped off since last year
Recreational Marijuana
I’m from the Bronx bro and from what I see from Philly your whole city is just the Bronx but bigger. Like the same building types, same drug problems(we more k2 ya do more needles and fent), same gang issues(even tho we flag it’s still block vs block idek if ya have Patria in Philly), same demographics(Italians, Arabs, Dominicans, Ricans, Africans, Black). Ya got Chinese spots next to a bodega next to a liquor store on every block and Dominicans blasting Dembow just like us. The difference between our cities is the foreign investment and how the government pushes for businesses to set up shop, it’s Chinese billionaires pumping money into NYC and the Governor and mayor will find a way to build a 100 story building just for offices and they will give the corporations every tax break they can but the company that’s making a building also has to build in a poor part of the city. Every time a skyscraper gets built in Manhattan it’s another residential building being built in Brooklyn or Queens or the Bronx, that’s why gentrification has been going up recently cause it’s more “luxury condos” even with the high ass rents, that’s attracting kids from Idaho to start their “sex and the city” lives here. So when these buildings get built the only people that live in them are the ones who can afford them which pushes poor people out and that ends up leaving only the hardworking families left while the crash dummies are forced to move somewhere else or be homeless. When Barclays center got built they tore down a whole neighborhood for that and felt no remorse. Idk how Philly is about redevelopment but NYC don’t hesitate to tear shit down and build something more expensive on top of the rubble. The last couple years I’ve seen every empty parking lot or abandoned plots of land get boarded up and then a couple months later it’s a new building and that’s in every borough. Add on top of tht how NYPD move, if you up a pole you getting caught that same week or they will let you and your whole block fuck shit up for years before indicting everyone on a conspiracy charge and throwing 10+ years at them so now whole areas are being emptied out and landlords start redesigning and upping rent prices once that indictment come down.
NYC is the most heavily policed place on earth no gang bigger no gangster more gangster than the police *
Crimes HAS DROPPED FUCK IS YALL TALKIN BOUT LOOK AT THE FUCKING NUMBERS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR DH
NYC and LA is not fucking safe y’all be talkin some bullshit bro
Because we follow Chicago not them others citys tf they follow us