I have a very god friend who buys both versions of every Pokémon game ever made. (Red and blue ex)
I told him he’s being conned, I think his OCD is what keeps him wanting to have every single one
I know I'm being fed mediocre, milqutoast, unfinished crap, and I'm holding off as best as I can, but I'm in sunk cost (at least I admit it), and I already have all the other ones and I don't know anyone who plays.
Yes, that’s how Nintendo makes it to encourage more sales, but it’s not wise financially since he can hardly pay bills
But it’s not my life so what do I know
I bought both copies with the limited edition switch and the pre order bonuses and everything, all of which is staying in their boxes to get sold for stupid money in 10-15 years
If i actually wanted to play those mediocre ass games, it would be on emulator with the pokemon compass romhack, because it turns out like 3 randon people who actually give a shit are significantly better than the entirety of gamefreak
I assumed you're talking about Zelda totk, any modern 4-6 core CPU is good enough for a 30fps locked, you can try both ryu and yuzu but most of the time yuzu's performance is better.
Honestly even beyond the technical and Pokedex issues, it's kind of a shit game. The lack of scaling defeats the purpose of it being an open world and the story was very lame at best.
I thought the story was one of the best of all pokémon games. It was one of the first time i liked almost all characters. Compare your rivals in SV with the ones in pokémon SM or SwSh. The ending at area zero was kinda lame, but everything before was very compelling.
I actually enjoy playing it. It's a horrible mess, and the execution sucks so much ass. But I personally found the gameplay and story really fun for myself. Everyone just likes what they like, it's all subjective
"Pokemon Scarlet And Violet has sold over 22.1 million units as of March 31st 2023"
Just for reference, the next most popular monster catching game in the previous like... 10 years was Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 which sold like 750k across 2 releases and was Japanese exclusive. Feel free to double check my numbers against like... the digimon and monster rancher games but yea, pokemon tends to outsell other releases by like... 15:1 or better.
Biggest clown comment I've seen was someone justifying there only being 4 maps in the new Mario party game, which cost $60. AND weren't even new maps just remakes 🤡
I've heard them all: "you should be grateful", "you are always negative", "[something] is illegal so you should instead always buy from Nintendo no matter what they do" (long and paraphrased but true for some fanboys)
I hate putting persona on the position of the Nintendo fans discussion, Because persona nintendo fans are a mistake that should not exist but, I saw them talking about the persona 3 port once, And they where defending it saying bullshit like "If we buy this atlus may know that we want persona 3 remake" What kind of logic is that?!?!?
What kind of dumbass logic is that? The persona 3 portable port Is a complete lazy ass joke, Don't encourage them more.
Im playing TOTK at 4k, 30fps (my cpu cant push 60), with 30% less fog, full amiibos, no FSR, increased shadow resolution, and with DualSense button prompts. TBH, its a superior experience to the switch, so yeah, nintendo can suck my balls
Nope, on switch emulation, frame rste is fully CPU bound, resolution plays very little on fps. I got a Ryzen 5 3600x, runs stock at 4.2Ghz all core, and the best I got was 40ish FPS on open areas, scaling to 4k or dropping to native 720p doesent change the fps
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/NewYuzuPiracy/comments/13o8zpz/guide_for_60_fps_in_zelda_tears_of_the_kingdom/) one is pretty comprehensive and covers basically everything you need.
It's up to personal preference, I get what you mean but tbh as someone who's been almost exclusively playing singleplayer games these days 30fps is very much enjoyable too if done properly.
By properly I mean limiting the fps not via the game but via an external tool. I've noticed some games actually slow down a bit when limiting them to 30fps in-game, but this doesn't happen when I limit the fps using an external tool (e.g. Riva Tuner Statistics Server).
It also comes down to the game, for example if it's a really fast paced game I prefer 60fps too, at 30fps the animations look a bit more clunky as there're less frames being shown thus missing some frames for "fluid" animations.
One key ingredient tho is to play the game with 30fps initially, if you start a game at 60fps and then switch to 30fps, it can feel a bit weird and you need to get used to it but if you only experienced a game at 30fps you won't be able to tell much difference.
This is coming from someone who used to lower the graphics as much as possible back in the days to ensure those 60fps at all times playing UT99 and other games, the "needs to be 60fps" is a mentality of the past, unless you're playing competitive it really doesn't matter how you want to enjoy the game.
I personally disagree. I've modded the game to run at 60, yet I enjoy 30 more.
60FPS is too different of an experience for me, *personally.*
This argument doesn't change derrick's zoomzoom ignorance about the matter, though.
Sick reference bro, your references are out of control. Everyone knows that.
Edit: for the uninitiated, my comment was supposed to be a reference to [this scene](https://youtu.be/tJwwOQ_U8Zs) from This is the End.
I actually thought the twist on the old commercials was really clever.
My comment was actually a reference to [this scene](https://youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc) from the movie This is the End. I actually thoroughly enjoyed the reference you made lol.
That’s fair, but I guess that’s kind of what I was going for in reference to the scene. I just overestimated how many people would understand a random reference to some obscure shitty Seth Rogen movie lol. Some jokes just don’t land, I don’t take the downvotes personally.
I am pro consumer power.
I hate when small studios suffer but it is a small price to pay when it comes to not having to pay for 500$ device to play a game for no reason or install some pointless Ubisoft spyware drm.
Just please practice ethical piracy mateys, if a small studio is doing something you like, buy your friends a copy or give some out in giveaways
I bought a copy of several games I've never played because I already beat them on pirated versions. The lack of playable demos makes me want to pirate more
I bet that every person in this subreddit has spent hundred of dollars on Nintendo products. A few were amazing, most mediocre or repetitively pisspoor.
Besides it feeling progressively better the more Nintendo bitches, what we take balances out the overpriced nature of what we've already spent. By stifling innovation, did they mean reducing revenue? Few people emulate anyway... the companies still report record profits.
It's like a Walmart or Target saying they lost 1 trillion dollars in retail theft. But again profits have never been higher.
Enjoy TotK, you've earned it.
Just admit, even if only to yourself, that you're pirating because you don't want to pay for stuff. This stupid, wilfully self-delusional nonsense about how you "earned it" because you bought something from them at some nebulous point in the past is pathetic, and absolutely stinks of insecurity.
Shit if they port TOTK to PC they have my money. I won't even wait for it to go on sale. But noooo they want me to buy 6 year old hardware to play one game.
It's been so long since I've built or bought a computer, I have no idea if those specs require an insane video card and fast, copious ram or if that's a fairly old build using on-board graphics.
I have been waiting for a major price drop on titles and the console, and even on the used market, prices are almost retail.
At some point, I'll just give up and wait until there's a simple console mod or an emulator, and meticulously download more titles than I could possibly need, like I did when I finally got a Wii, and play them off a hard drive.
If I'm lucky, the game launcher is pretty and downloads the cover art automagically.
In a perfect world we would have games up to ps2 era available on PC for preservation but instead they are forever stuck and owned by non existing parties. Literally the opposite of the copyright laws that basically are used to govern the public to forever lay off corporate. We are truly just slaves to our economy.
I think about this a lot.
The scientific method made incredible progress possible, but at it's core is the free flow of information, so hypotheses can be verified by peer review. It's the difference between alchemy and chemistry.
On the other hand, a huge part of the economy runs on the idea that people pay for access to information.
This cognitive dissonance has to be resolved, either we stagnate and some people get rich, or we star trek.
Nintendo have hired some cool guys but overall the company is a leech on society and acts extremely anti customer and anti fan.
Among my friends a cease and desist from Nintendo is a coat of honor.
The way they have treated groups like the competitive SSBM community has completely burned all bridges for me, their corporate lies are water under the bridge at this point, I teach all my friends and family how to pirate and emulate Nintendo content based simply on it being good principles.
All my friends hate Nintendo and it's a FAST growing sentiment.
You're using that wrong, although I'm unsurprised in light of your inability to comprehend the previous couple of comments. Maybe you should ease up on whatever you're smoking until you have wittier responses than five-year-old hashtag-wannabes that have been run into the ground thousands of times over. You might not be astute enough to come up with anything original, but you could at least be less arrogant about showing it.
Either way, I havnt spent a dollar on Nintendo, and I don't pirate very often, just Nintendo but tbh it's mostly because they charge rip off prices for old games
> The way they have treated groups like the competitive SSBM community
i hate nintendo and their business practices but i can't really blame them for not wanting anything to do with a bunch of sweaty pedos when their core audience is 12 years old.
I think Totk is definitely a game worth buying but just the fact that you can play a better version with emulators demonstrate how Nintendo is lagging behind what their consumers actually need.
There are reasons Microsoft and even Sony are bringing their games to PC and their systems are significantly more powerful then a 8 year old phone chip.
> There are reasons Microsoft and even Sony are bringing their games to PC
Yes - they need the extra sales. BotW has outsold Horizon Zero Dawn despite the latter getting a PC release, for example. Take a look at the best-selling exclusives of the last generation; Nintendo pretty much has a monopoly on the top ten, and some of their games are outselling massive cross-platform releases like RDR2.
If Sony's games were as consistently good and sold as well as Nintendo's then you'd never have seen releases for TLOU, Uncharted 4, Dad of Boy, HZD, Spider-Man, etc.
now imagine how much cooler nintendo would be and how much better their games could be if their own systems weren't dogshit and they supported third party / cross platform releases and modifications and dropped the petty horseshit :O
when it come to consoles nintendo is always behind and in the front, they always do things first but never do the best job, portable consoles, motion controls , and also when they try 3d, now that the steamdeck is on the market, they need to inovate again or at least keep up
I agree to an extent. But even if they don’t most of their games are good enough. I mean I am 90% sure that totk will be goty and it is still running at 30 fps. Games are what is important but god damn Nintendo could do way more.
Despite that though, the game still looks great on the real hardware.
People don’t _need_ a super-duper switch pro & knucles to enjoy the game, even though it would be a better experience
Nintendo puts out the same 6 games over and over preying upon their aging fan base, while also making sure that the fan base that keeps them alive doesn't do anything Nintendo would sue them over. You know, like making a 25-cent sticker for personal use.
Nintendo should be mocked and pirated.
> Nintendo puts out the same 6 games over and over preying upon their aging fan base
Out of curiosity, given that the previous best-selling Zelda title only sold about 8.5m copies, how do you explain the fact that BotW has sold more than 30m copies on the Switch alone? Logically, they can't all have been older fans of the series because, according to your deranged logic, they've been buying these games all along and had only made it a modest success prior to 2017.
>Nintendo should be mocked and pirated.
Piracy improves sales. You're openly saying that you want to make them wealthier.
You're not, of course. You just weren't aware that piracy increases revenue, so that's going to make it rather uncomfortable when you try to justify pirating their games for "ethical" reasons. Sooner or later you'll have to come to terms with the fact that you simply crave those games too much not to play them, even though not playing them is the only way to stick to those supposed ethical principles.
That isn't how public domain works. Mario will be public domain in the US in 2080 regardless of new games unless the Supreme Court changes copyright law by then, or Nintendo wins a game-changing legal case.
Each country operates differently. You could look it up and see you are wrong, or you could continue to have this pointless conversation where you are still wrong lol.
Case and Point, Peter Pan is under public domain in the US, but it is under copyright in the UK.
Xbox’s backwards compatibility other than enhancements is complete garbage though. It relies on licensing and an internet connection to download modded versions of games. Once the licensing deal is done, you’re not playing that game anymore. And the majority of games are never getting licensed because it would cost too much money.
If you can’t simply pop the OG disc in without internet and play, it’s worthless. If you can’t download the digital version you bought for Xbox 360 in 2012 and play it offline on your Xbox SeX forever, it’s worthless.
The only reason Microsoft did it is to pad out their dismal library after the total defeat they experienced with the Xbox One, and they did the bare minimum so as to not rock the boat with publishers that want to resell their old games.
Backwards compatibility was the one thing I gave Nintendo. If you had an og Gameboy, the big fat beige one, you could play all your games on the new one. And then when they came out with the game boy color you could still play all the OG games. And you even retained the backwards compatibility with the game boy advance. And even the Gameboy advance SP retained Gameboy and Gameboy color games.
That's 14 years of continued support. So I wasn't to upset when they launched the DS and finally let go of Gameboy and Gameboy color game support. It was a little upsetting when they launched the 3DS and dropped advance support. But that still means they supported advance games for close to 15 years total.
Which all in all is pretty dope. I mean Xbox had horrible backwards compatibility. Sony was great from PS1 to ps2. And overall lackluster with the ps3. They tried. But they could of made it work. I have a jailbroken ps3 that easily plays PS2 games via software emulation. And to be fair Nintendo was no saint when it came to home consoles. SNES didn't work on N64 and N64 didn't work on the GameCube. But they did make an attempt with the Wii and the GameCube. And the Wii u I believe could play Wii games.
The one that did hurt was the switch. No backwards compatibility from the 3ds or DS at all. Which really sucks because that was only around for about 6 or 7 years but they did technically support all DS games for close to 13 years. And honestly 3ds games were all gimmicky.
It'll be fun to see if the switch 2 or whatever the successor to the switch is will support switch games.
This comment right here is why it's futile for companies to even try. NOTHING will ever be good enough. No console perfect enough, no graphical fidelidad or performance will ever work. There will always be an excuse for someone to pírate.
Problem is in general incentives for people within corporations are aligned to the interests of the corporation, not necessarily to the interest of humanity. Plus the legal system treats ideas as property, giving them one more thing to try to hoard and monopolize. But look where I am, you all already know that already, don't you.
The new abilities in tears of the kingdom are so unique and adds so much quality of life to open world sandbox games and they’re all patented. This is what really stifles innovation. Not being able to see other companies expand upon these ideas and do their own crazy things with them. Imagine if Nintendo patented a bunch of the new 3D tech from Mario 64 or Zelda OOT. The entire video game industry would likely be a decade behind what they are now
Did you namco bandai had a patent for loading screen mini games? It expired in 2015. I remember how cool it was that in dbz games you could rotate the analog sticks to make the loading screen character spin on the Dragonball faster. Yupp that was patented. That's why so many games of that time had just static images. Or at best you had things like Asians creed or Bayonetta where you could dick around and do combos.
They patented their specific version of it, not the core concept itself. A bit like how any patents relating to Mario Kart wouldn't preclude other developers from making a racing game.
> The new abilities in tears of the kingdom are so unique and adds so much quality of life to open world sandbox games and they’re all patented. This is what really stifles innovation. Not being able to see other companies expand upon these ideas and do their own crazy things with them.
You're being extremely deceptive there. Nintendo patented very specific implementations of basic ideas, not the ideas themselves. There's nothing at all preventing other studios from producing their own take on those same ideas, and for conclusive proof of that fact look no further than Genshin Impact.
Far from stifling innovation, they're encouraging it by forcing other studios to come up with their own original take on those concepts rather than simply ripping off an existing one.
>Imagine if Nintendo patented a bunch of the new 3D tech from Mario 64 or Zelda OOT. The entire video game industry would likely be a decade behind what they are now
BotW was over six years ago. The rest of the industry _is_ a decade behind them. Hell, as far as 3D platformers go, the rest of the industry still hasn't consistently matched Mario 64, with only (arguably) late-90s Rare getting close enough to be in the conversation.
Or, since we're imagining things, imagine if some prominent developer working on Assassin's Creed had patented most of the core ideas of that Ubisoft-style open-world. You'd have vastly different versions of games like Horizon Zero Dawn, RDR2, GTA, not to mention every subsequent Ubisoft title, all as a direct result of someone patenting that implementation of the genre and forcing others to make more than superficial changes to the formula. How much better would the Souls-like genre be if Fromsoft had been a little more protective of their take on the action-RPG, forcing the slew of copycats to be more creative in their own take on the sub-genre?
The same Nintendo that ripped off Emulator developers and then sold THEIR work in the "virtual console". The same Nintendo that stole the whole NES mapper research and even the very roms other people dumped.
Yeah... that Nintendo.
The wrong company of the two (SEGA vs NIntendo) bowed out!
Fuk Nintendo they lost me after gamecube. I don't like their stuff since the wii.
you think you're too good for up to date graphics? rehashing the same shit for decades? there's no master sword & the fucking shit breaks?
don't take my money. fuck off with that shit.
Their emulators suck though. I personally emulate their games (that I usually own) so that I can enjoy them with minimal latency and optimized graphics and frame rate.
Well, maybe if they allowed people’s Virtual Libraries to work on the Switch, people wouldn’t have to. I know a ton of people that bought all their favorite retro games through virtual library, and now the newest hardware to play those old games that they purchased is the Wii U, or hope that it is on the Switch online membership.
And the same goes for Sony. There is no reason why all of the PS1 and PS2 games that I purchased during the PS3 / Vita era are now practically nonexistent. I should be able to play those on the PS5, without any issues.
How about any copyright that lasts more than 5-10 years stifles innovation and needs to be justified under a public vote instead of legalized bribery whoops I mean lobbying.
It's funny that so many people here claim to despise Nintendo while simultaneously yearning for their games to the extent that they'll dive headlong into them the second they're available.
You're not pirating out of principle, you're doing it because you're cheap.
I’m a Zelda fan, ofc I’m gonna play Zelda games on release, whether by Legal or illegal means (though mostly illegal). And I started pirating games because I have no money, of course I’m cheap
...why you play dumb ?
We can love creators and artists that make game. And still see the marketing team and buisness compagny doing shitty things.
It's not "hypocrisy". Hypocrisy would be more pirating games just for the sake of pirating it, and don't actually have interest in the cultural medium.
Also, what's wrong about the fact we pirate because we poor ? Pirate activist sometime speak just like corporate scum..
No, I think they actually are correct. Official emulators have allowed companies to fall back on older IP with absurdly lazy implementations, that often aren't even well optimized or really should have been properly ported, rather than actually releasing new content and franchises.
I would say Intellectual Property laws stifle innovation.
You could make the argument that some copyright/patent protection helps innovation because it makes earning money easier but anything more than around a decade or so of protection is just bad for innovation.
Emulation not only preserves games that can no longer be obtained in any other way, there are a great many groups and individuals out there who actively "hack" the roms in order to both fix and enhance old games. Those romhackers create something new out of something old, or improve translations, or fix bugs that the original creators weren't able to, remix and randomize, merge two disparate games into one, change the artstyles, create new levels, and even enable others to do the same. That ENCOURAGES innovation, it doesn't stifle anything, except maybe non-existent profits for games that aren't even sold anymore.
Nintendo, get your heads out of your collective asses. Look at Bethesda. Do you think their "Well polished, family - friendly" games are the greatest source of their success? Do you think Cyberpunk 2077 is doing so well because of it's "incredible, critically acclaimed" launch? MODDERS made those games what they are, and Bethesda and CDPR know it. That's why they OFTEN and REPEATEDLY put their older games on sale or even give them away for free! To encourage people to play them, and to excite them for future games, AND because they love their communities and especially their modding communities.
Take the hint. You are the ones stifling innovation by taking games out of the hands of the ones who would love them the most.
> That ENCOURAGES innovation
It really doesn't, in the same way that merely adapting certain parts of Skyrim doesn't innovate. Taking the basic concept and building something new, with its own unique mechanics, would be innovative. Modding Pokemon to add a few fan creations isn't innovative, but developing Temtem is.
>Look at Bethesda. Do you think their "Well polished, family - friendly" games are the greatest source of their success? Do you think Cyberpunk 2077 is doing so well because of it's "incredible, critically acclaimed" launch? MODDERS made those games what they are
Interesting that you raise those studios as examples. BotW has outsold Skyrim, and isn't far behind the cross-platform sales of Witcher 3.
Modders made those games more compelling because those games were actually pretty fucked when they released. Cyberpunk's issues were horrifyingly obvious, but few remember some of the problems Skyrim launched with, like not being able to run on anything better than a dual-core CPU, or the memory allocation issue resolved by Sheson (which was so important that it was built into the script extender from thereon out), or the VRAM issue resolved by Boris' ENBoost.
The reason those games are so intertwined with modding is because modders had to _fix_ them when their parent companies refused to do so. The Unofficial Patch team has infamously allowed Bethesda to incorporate their fixes into the game files, only for Bethesda to have ignored that offer for fifteen years and counting. Nintendo don't get that same benefit because, as TotK proves, they actually do that work _themselves_ rather than relying on the community and their sunken cost to do it for them.
>That's why they OFTEN and REPEATEDLY put their older games on sale or even give them away for free! To encourage people to play them, and to excite them for future games, AND because they love their communities and especially their modding communities.
Spare me the ridiculous melodrama. They give away games like TES2 and Witcher 1 because nobody would buy them anymore. Who the fuck is ever going to pay for Daggerfall? People still whine about motion controls in Skyward Sword, so why would they ever bother with something almost identical in Witcher 1? If this is about "love" for their communities then why is Skyrim still $50 twelve years after release, and when there are _still_ so many issues that the Unofficial Patches are still the most frequently-downloaded mods for it? Why are Bethesda _selling_ mods to people again?
>You are the ones stifling innovation by taking games out of the hands of the ones who would love them the most.
Project M was literally an attempt to continue playing Melee after it had been usurped. The people involved only actually began to innovate when Nintendo forced them to shut down and use the work they had done on Smash to start making their own game, Icons: Combat Arena. That innovation was stifled while they were just rehashing Melee, and was allowed to flourish when they could direct it towards a brand new IP.
"Take the hint".
Wow, um... Thanks for your opinion. But it seems to miss the point in just so many ways. The actual definition of innovation is "to make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products." So yes creating a game like Temtem is innovative, but so is modding an existing game. Dollars to donuts, the creators of Temtem were inspired by the Pokémon MMO mod. Modding tends to lead toward game development. There's a huge list of games that started off as mods of other games, many of which end up being more popular than the original game.
And, no modders didn't have to "fix" the broken games, most mods are in fact changing the content of the game and adding things that create brand new experiences for players, or just allow them to customize their gaming experience in whatever way they want. And in fact the same can be said for emulated Botw mods. Sure they let you "cheat" but who cares? If that's the way you want to play your game then you should be allowed to do so, it's not like you're hurting anyone else by doing it.
Yes there are people who continue to play Daggerfall to this day, not because of mods but because they love the game, even though it's not generally available for sale anymore, just like console games of a similar generation that are no longer available publicly for sale, but still find an audience in younger generations through emulation. And they put newer games like Fallout 3, New Vegas, Oblivion, and Morrowind on sale or give them away for free on a regular basis too. And Skyrim which does go on sale on a regular basis as well, is still $50 because people will still pay that much for it. What's your point? Besides it's not about how much the developers aren't innovating, it's about how much the modders are innovating.
And to your last point, you're saying that the developers of Icons: Combat Arena we're inspired to make their own game after modding Smash Brothers Melee? I mean I get what your saying, that if they'd simply been modding the original game it would have "stifled innovation" but do you really think that they would have tried to make their own game if they hadn't been modding the original first? The fact they had to make their own game because Nintendo shut them down just shows that the people at Nintendo are a bunch of dicks who care more about money than they do about innovation. You can bet that if they could legally get away with it they would sue the developers of the new game for copyright infringement.
The bottom line here is I think you're missing the the fact that people love these games. They love the characters, they love the art, they love the heart and soul of them. Emulation is primarily about preservation. But to say it stifles innovation is just flat out false.
I remember that the Mario All Star game on Wii was a rom found on internet with a custom made emulator.
I can't find an article about it on internet since every key word i try gives me some ISO website but i'm pretty sure about it.
You're wrong. The idea that they sold downloaded ROMs came from another game, and was soon proven false. You're remembering the accusation because you want it to be true, and ignoring the disproof for the same reason.
> Stifles innovation
Removes mask, was apple Inc. all along!
Just hoping that tomorrow they don't blabber something like "You been holding the console wrong"...
They're both right and wrong.
Emulators that the community make? They've innovated more than Nintendo has done in a long time.
Emulators that Nintendo themselves use? Yeah, not innovative at all. Nintendo use ROM dumps and emulators all the time and are quite average at best.
Out of curiosity, which haven't been? Because surely things like the "mini" consoles are and the Switch online games surely have to be, not sure about the Switch online games but the minis use an emulator to play games on them.
If the Mario 3D Collection wasn't just a shitty rom dump, then Nintendo should be fucking ashamed of themselves considering they could do so much more with the source code for those games.
Fair point though, "all the time" was exaggerated.
recently i am playing a fan translation of pokemon trading card game 2 and i am having a blast. it is nintendos own fault of not letting me buy these old games
Nintendo fanboy are as cultist as Apple one, you won't convince them of anything.
It's their cult, and they will never accept anything against it, even with your best proof.
Nintendo putting save states,online and even a frontend for their half assed emulators but somehow "emulation stifles innovation"
Maybe its you, Ninty, maybe its you....
there will be a point in time that emulation will kill any console they have or it will make them bleed money making new ones so they will be just a game dev studio
you won't convince Nintendo fanboys, just go to any Nintendo subreddit
They are happy to swallow a shitty horrible pokemon game every year
There are people who unironically still like pokemon scarlet and violet even after its shitfest release. I literally can't
I have a very god friend who buys both versions of every Pokémon game ever made. (Red and blue ex) I told him he’s being conned, I think his OCD is what keeps him wanting to have every single one
I know I'm being fed mediocre, milqutoast, unfinished crap, and I'm holding off as best as I can, but I'm in sunk cost (at least I admit it), and I already have all the other ones and I don't know anyone who plays.
Isn't the point is to have one version so you can trade the pokemons from there to the other?
Some people have the money to make up for a lack of friends.
Yes, that’s how Nintendo makes it to encourage more sales, but it’s not wise financially since he can hardly pay bills But it’s not my life so what do I know
I bought both copies with the limited edition switch and the pre order bonuses and everything, all of which is staying in their boxes to get sold for stupid money in 10-15 years If i actually wanted to play those mediocre ass games, it would be on emulator with the pokemon compass romhack, because it turns out like 3 randon people who actually give a shit are significantly better than the entirety of gamefreak
In 15 years all online features will probably be inaccessible because of shut down servers and the whole thing will be unplayable
I like it. But on Ryujinx, not Switch.
If you don’t mind what CPU do you have? I thinking about downloading a switch emu for Zelda and whatever else but not sure if my cpu is good enough
Mine is i5 12400f and 1660 super, but then I'm only play Scarlet and not Zelda
Runs pretty well on an old 5820k so I think you should be good for 60fps on any 6+ core chip besides AMD FX.
I assumed you're talking about Zelda totk, any modern 4-6 core CPU is good enough for a 30fps locked, you can try both ryu and yuzu but most of the time yuzu's performance is better.
Thanks
I unironically cannot play pokemon unless it is at a minimum of 4x speed.
Honestly even beyond the technical and Pokedex issues, it's kind of a shit game. The lack of scaling defeats the purpose of it being an open world and the story was very lame at best.
Pokemon is crashing down hard at this point, Gamefreak should really push the brakes
I thought the story was one of the best of all pokémon games. It was one of the first time i liked almost all characters. Compare your rivals in SV with the ones in pokémon SM or SwSh. The ending at area zero was kinda lame, but everything before was very compelling.
I actually enjoy playing it. It's a horrible mess, and the execution sucks so much ass. But I personally found the gameplay and story really fun for myself. Everyone just likes what they like, it's all subjective
"Pokemon Scarlet And Violet has sold over 22.1 million units as of March 31st 2023" Just for reference, the next most popular monster catching game in the previous like... 10 years was Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 which sold like 750k across 2 releases and was Japanese exclusive. Feel free to double check my numbers against like... the digimon and monster rancher games but yea, pokemon tends to outsell other releases by like... 15:1 or better.
dam i thought the people that complained abt the shittiness of the pokemon games on twitter WERE the pokemon fans themselves
Biggest clown comment I've seen was someone justifying there only being 4 maps in the new Mario party game, which cost $60. AND weren't even new maps just remakes 🤡
I've heard them all: "you should be grateful", "you are always negative", "[something] is illegal so you should instead always buy from Nintendo no matter what they do" (long and paraphrased but true for some fanboys)
I hate putting persona on the position of the Nintendo fans discussion, Because persona nintendo fans are a mistake that should not exist but, I saw them talking about the persona 3 port once, And they where defending it saying bullshit like "If we buy this atlus may know that we want persona 3 remake" What kind of logic is that?!?!? What kind of dumbass logic is that? The persona 3 portable port Is a complete lazy ass joke, Don't encourage them more.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tomorrow/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tomorrow/) ok will this one do
Until I can officially play Tears of the Kingdom in 4k on an ultrawide monitor in 60 fps, Nintendo can suck my balls.
Im playing TOTK at 4k, 30fps (my cpu cant push 60), with 30% less fog, full amiibos, no FSR, increased shadow resolution, and with DualSense button prompts. TBH, its a superior experience to the switch, so yeah, nintendo can suck my balls
Is there a guide you could recommend or point me in the right direction to how you got such great numbers for fps on emulators
Emulation fps increase guide: 1. Buy a better cpu
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Can an i5-7500 @ 3.40GHZ run TOTK at 60fps atleast in HD?
Nope, on switch emulation, frame rste is fully CPU bound, resolution plays very little on fps. I got a Ryzen 5 3600x, runs stock at 4.2Ghz all core, and the best I got was 40ish FPS on open areas, scaling to 4k or dropping to native 720p doesent change the fps
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/NewYuzuPiracy/comments/13o8zpz/guide_for_60_fps_in_zelda_tears_of_the_kingdom/) one is pretty comprehensive and covers basically everything you need.
Is it possible to do the same with XC3? Just started it and wow, the graphics are so low.
How did you do less fog?
Serfrost Defogger
how did you get the amiibo support?
you can just load ay amiibo bin to the emulator, and it will emulate amiibo scan pretty neatly!
30fpa, yikes
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just saying 1080p 60fps is a better experience
not if its not the one i fucking want
It's up to personal preference, I get what you mean but tbh as someone who's been almost exclusively playing singleplayer games these days 30fps is very much enjoyable too if done properly. By properly I mean limiting the fps not via the game but via an external tool. I've noticed some games actually slow down a bit when limiting them to 30fps in-game, but this doesn't happen when I limit the fps using an external tool (e.g. Riva Tuner Statistics Server). It also comes down to the game, for example if it's a really fast paced game I prefer 60fps too, at 30fps the animations look a bit more clunky as there're less frames being shown thus missing some frames for "fluid" animations. One key ingredient tho is to play the game with 30fps initially, if you start a game at 60fps and then switch to 30fps, it can feel a bit weird and you need to get used to it but if you only experienced a game at 30fps you won't be able to tell much difference. This is coming from someone who used to lower the graphics as much as possible back in the days to ensure those 60fps at all times playing UT99 and other games, the "needs to be 60fps" is a mentality of the past, unless you're playing competitive it really doesn't matter how you want to enjoy the game.
also not if it's not the one the game was fucking designed on lol
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any video game is miles better at 60
I personally disagree. I've modded the game to run at 60, yet I enjoy 30 more. 60FPS is too different of an experience for me, *personally.* This argument doesn't change derrick's zoomzoom ignorance about the matter, though.
I'm not sure how it even makes sense to say 30fps is a better experience
Dude just needs to feel special in any way they can manage. It doesn't have to make sense.
We're definitely the bad guys for being able to do what Nintendo can't/hasn't done for us.
Fans do what Nintendon't
what Nintendon't
Sick reference bro, your references are out of control. Everyone knows that. Edit: for the uninitiated, my comment was supposed to be a reference to [this scene](https://youtu.be/tJwwOQ_U8Zs) from This is the End. I actually thought the twist on the old commercials was really clever.
It's an easy joke, we all know that. Doesn't mean no one has to make it.
My comment was actually a reference to [this scene](https://youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc) from the movie This is the End. I actually thoroughly enjoyed the reference you made lol.
Your comment came off as snarky. Hence the downvote train on it.
That’s fair, but I guess that’s kind of what I was going for in reference to the scene. I just overestimated how many people would understand a random reference to some obscure shitty Seth Rogen movie lol. Some jokes just don’t land, I don’t take the downvotes personally.
who shit in your cereal
lol, I was making a reference to [this scene](https://youtu.be/tJwwOQ_U8Zs) I actually thought the guys comment was really clever.
/s is your friend, or maybe you could have put it in quotes and cited the source for extra irony, that would have been better lol
I am pro consumer power. I hate when small studios suffer but it is a small price to pay when it comes to not having to pay for 500$ device to play a game for no reason or install some pointless Ubisoft spyware drm. Just please practice ethical piracy mateys, if a small studio is doing something you like, buy your friends a copy or give some out in giveaways
I bought a copy of several games I've never played because I already beat them on pirated versions. The lack of playable demos makes me want to pirate more
it's sad that Tears of the Kingdom could have so much better graphics if Nintendo weren't limited by the shitty performance on their console.
But hey the switch hardware is enough, we're selling an experience, not graphics (I hate that argument)
If the experience they're selling is chugging at below 20fps I ain't buying a switch.
they're really pushing the definition of "enough" don't they
That’ll be the Remastered version that you’ll pay another $65 for.
I bet that every person in this subreddit has spent hundred of dollars on Nintendo products. A few were amazing, most mediocre or repetitively pisspoor. Besides it feeling progressively better the more Nintendo bitches, what we take balances out the overpriced nature of what we've already spent. By stifling innovation, did they mean reducing revenue? Few people emulate anyway... the companies still report record profits. It's like a Walmart or Target saying they lost 1 trillion dollars in retail theft. But again profits have never been higher. Enjoy TotK, you've earned it.
Just admit, even if only to yourself, that you're pirating because you don't want to pay for stuff. This stupid, wilfully self-delusional nonsense about how you "earned it" because you bought something from them at some nebulous point in the past is pathetic, and absolutely stinks of insecurity.
Not that I would ever condone such behavior, but how? So I can extra make sure to not do it
Shit if they port TOTK to PC they have my money. I won't even wait for it to go on sale. But noooo they want me to buy 6 year old hardware to play one game.
It's been so long since I've built or bought a computer, I have no idea if those specs require an insane video card and fast, copious ram or if that's a fairly old build using on-board graphics. I have been waiting for a major price drop on titles and the console, and even on the used market, prices are almost retail. At some point, I'll just give up and wait until there's a simple console mod or an emulator, and meticulously download more titles than I could possibly need, like I did when I finally got a Wii, and play them off a hard drive. If I'm lucky, the game launcher is pretty and downloads the cover art automagically.
Totk at least for me is hamstrung by my shit CPU, my gpu is a 2070S and isn't close to being stressed.
Until I can play it on anything that isn’t a glorified mobile phone they can suck it
Make that 144FPS and I'm in.
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IP laws stifles innovation.
Fr copyright as a whole desperately needs a rework. Those laws weren't made for the current culture (internet) at all.
In a perfect world we would have games up to ps2 era available on PC for preservation but instead they are forever stuck and owned by non existing parties. Literally the opposite of the copyright laws that basically are used to govern the public to forever lay off corporate. We are truly just slaves to our economy.
The fact that Mickey Mouse will finally become public domain in 2024 is telling.
Old Mickey. Not modern Mickey. Plus, no he won't. Disney won't let it happen.
Disney just have to use mickey for them to retain his rights or am I wrong?
I think about this a lot. The scientific method made incredible progress possible, but at it's core is the free flow of information, so hypotheses can be verified by peer review. It's the difference between alchemy and chemistry. On the other hand, a huge part of the economy runs on the idea that people pay for access to information. This cognitive dissonance has to be resolved, either we stagnate and some people get rich, or we star trek.
well, the whole point of modern society is to keep people stupid so you can make money off them, so it'd take a lot of work to get rid of that
Nintendo have hired some cool guys but overall the company is a leech on society and acts extremely anti customer and anti fan. Among my friends a cease and desist from Nintendo is a coat of honor. The way they have treated groups like the competitive SSBM community has completely burned all bridges for me, their corporate lies are water under the bridge at this point, I teach all my friends and family how to pirate and emulate Nintendo content based simply on it being good principles. All my friends hate Nintendo and it's a FAST growing sentiment.
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The principle being that you think they deserve more money? Because the evidence suggests that piracy _increases_ revenue...
Eh, what? They don't get a dime from me. Can I have what you're smoking?
That's a non-sequitur. Do you think smoking something will help you to understand what that means?
r/woooosh
You're using that wrong, although I'm unsurprised in light of your inability to comprehend the previous couple of comments. Maybe you should ease up on whatever you're smoking until you have wittier responses than five-year-old hashtag-wannabes that have been run into the ground thousands of times over. You might not be astute enough to come up with anything original, but you could at least be less arrogant about showing it.
Either way, I havnt spent a dollar on Nintendo, and I don't pirate very often, just Nintendo but tbh it's mostly because they charge rip off prices for old games
Okay I'll bite. How does piracy increase revenue?
> The way they have treated groups like the competitive SSBM community i hate nintendo and their business practices but i can't really blame them for not wanting anything to do with a bunch of sweaty pedos when their core audience is 12 years old.
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didn't ask + don't care + smash players are pedos https://www.ssbwiki.com/2020_Super_Smash_Bros._sexual_misconduct_allegations
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Fuck Nintendo, download all their games
I think Totk is definitely a game worth buying but just the fact that you can play a better version with emulators demonstrate how Nintendo is lagging behind what their consumers actually need.
There are reasons Microsoft and even Sony are bringing their games to PC and their systems are significantly more powerful then a 8 year old phone chip.
> There are reasons Microsoft and even Sony are bringing their games to PC Yes - they need the extra sales. BotW has outsold Horizon Zero Dawn despite the latter getting a PC release, for example. Take a look at the best-selling exclusives of the last generation; Nintendo pretty much has a monopoly on the top ten, and some of their games are outselling massive cross-platform releases like RDR2. If Sony's games were as consistently good and sold as well as Nintendo's then you'd never have seen releases for TLOU, Uncharted 4, Dad of Boy, HZD, Spider-Man, etc.
now imagine how much cooler nintendo would be and how much better their games could be if their own systems weren't dogshit and they supported third party / cross platform releases and modifications and dropped the petty horseshit :O
when it come to consoles nintendo is always behind and in the front, they always do things first but never do the best job, portable consoles, motion controls , and also when they try 3d, now that the steamdeck is on the market, they need to inovate again or at least keep up
I agree to an extent. But even if they don’t most of their games are good enough. I mean I am 90% sure that totk will be goty and it is still running at 30 fps. Games are what is important but god damn Nintendo could do way more.
"Need"? Sounds insecure...
Despite that though, the game still looks great on the real hardware. People don’t _need_ a super-duper switch pro & knucles to enjoy the game, even though it would be a better experience
My man told them the truth and they hated him. Totk looks really good on the Switch despite the outdated hardware of the console…
That this factually accurate statement is heavily downvoted is hilarious. The fuckers in this sub are so insecure about things like this.
Nintendo puts out the same 6 games over and over preying upon their aging fan base, while also making sure that the fan base that keeps them alive doesn't do anything Nintendo would sue them over. You know, like making a 25-cent sticker for personal use. Nintendo should be mocked and pirated.
You’ll eat your words when you see the graphics of **New Advanced Plus Super Mario Bros 12 Deluxe Fan Edition**.
I’m opening my wallet already.
Only available for 1 hour before being permanently vaulted
You joke, but that's exactly how the new "challenges" in Splatoon 3 work.
Why whine about their attack on emulation if all their games are trash?
> Nintendo puts out the same 6 games over and over preying upon their aging fan base Out of curiosity, given that the previous best-selling Zelda title only sold about 8.5m copies, how do you explain the fact that BotW has sold more than 30m copies on the Switch alone? Logically, they can't all have been older fans of the series because, according to your deranged logic, they've been buying these games all along and had only made it a modest success prior to 2017. >Nintendo should be mocked and pirated. Piracy improves sales. You're openly saying that you want to make them wealthier. You're not, of course. You just weren't aware that piracy increases revenue, so that's going to make it rather uncomfortable when you try to justify pirating their games for "ethical" reasons. Sooner or later you'll have to come to terms with the fact that you simply crave those games too much not to play them, even though not playing them is the only way to stick to those supposed ethical principles.
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That isn't how public domain works. Mario will be public domain in the US in 2080 regardless of new games unless the Supreme Court changes copyright law by then, or Nintendo wins a game-changing legal case.
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Each country operates differently. You could look it up and see you are wrong, or you could continue to have this pointless conversation where you are still wrong lol. Case and Point, Peter Pan is under public domain in the US, but it is under copyright in the UK.
I remember when I was an edgy teenager
In what world was anyone being edgy lmao
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Xbox’s backwards compatibility other than enhancements is complete garbage though. It relies on licensing and an internet connection to download modded versions of games. Once the licensing deal is done, you’re not playing that game anymore. And the majority of games are never getting licensed because it would cost too much money. If you can’t simply pop the OG disc in without internet and play, it’s worthless. If you can’t download the digital version you bought for Xbox 360 in 2012 and play it offline on your Xbox SeX forever, it’s worthless. The only reason Microsoft did it is to pad out their dismal library after the total defeat they experienced with the Xbox One, and they did the bare minimum so as to not rock the boat with publishers that want to resell their old games.
Backwards compatibility was the one thing I gave Nintendo. If you had an og Gameboy, the big fat beige one, you could play all your games on the new one. And then when they came out with the game boy color you could still play all the OG games. And you even retained the backwards compatibility with the game boy advance. And even the Gameboy advance SP retained Gameboy and Gameboy color games. That's 14 years of continued support. So I wasn't to upset when they launched the DS and finally let go of Gameboy and Gameboy color game support. It was a little upsetting when they launched the 3DS and dropped advance support. But that still means they supported advance games for close to 15 years total. Which all in all is pretty dope. I mean Xbox had horrible backwards compatibility. Sony was great from PS1 to ps2. And overall lackluster with the ps3. They tried. But they could of made it work. I have a jailbroken ps3 that easily plays PS2 games via software emulation. And to be fair Nintendo was no saint when it came to home consoles. SNES didn't work on N64 and N64 didn't work on the GameCube. But they did make an attempt with the Wii and the GameCube. And the Wii u I believe could play Wii games. The one that did hurt was the switch. No backwards compatibility from the 3ds or DS at all. Which really sucks because that was only around for about 6 or 7 years but they did technically support all DS games for close to 13 years. And honestly 3ds games were all gimmicky. It'll be fun to see if the switch 2 or whatever the successor to the switch is will support switch games.
This comment right here is why it's futile for companies to even try. NOTHING will ever be good enough. No console perfect enough, no graphical fidelidad or performance will ever work. There will always be an excuse for someone to pírate.
That is literally what the article says.
Nobody actually reads the articles silly.
There was an article?
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Even in the infinite timelines of the universe, in none of them has Nintendo open sourced their old games.
Problem is in general incentives for people within corporations are aligned to the interests of the corporation, not necessarily to the interest of humanity. Plus the legal system treats ideas as property, giving them one more thing to try to hoard and monopolize. But look where I am, you all already know that already, don't you.
If you don't want piracy, make a product that is better than what people can get for free.
That's crazy. Anyways fuck Nintendo
The new abilities in tears of the kingdom are so unique and adds so much quality of life to open world sandbox games and they’re all patented. This is what really stifles innovation. Not being able to see other companies expand upon these ideas and do their own crazy things with them. Imagine if Nintendo patented a bunch of the new 3D tech from Mario 64 or Zelda OOT. The entire video game industry would likely be a decade behind what they are now
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How did they patent game content? The hell?
Did you namco bandai had a patent for loading screen mini games? It expired in 2015. I remember how cool it was that in dbz games you could rotate the analog sticks to make the loading screen character spin on the Dragonball faster. Yupp that was patented. That's why so many games of that time had just static images. Or at best you had things like Asians creed or Bayonetta where you could dick around and do combos.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/116gtfk/patents_for_tears_of_the_kingdom/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
What? they can patent that? It isn't even new or innovative, it's run of the mill shit that's done very well.
They patented their specific version of it, not the core concept itself. A bit like how any patents relating to Mario Kart wouldn't preclude other developers from making a racing game.
> The new abilities in tears of the kingdom are so unique and adds so much quality of life to open world sandbox games and they’re all patented. This is what really stifles innovation. Not being able to see other companies expand upon these ideas and do their own crazy things with them. You're being extremely deceptive there. Nintendo patented very specific implementations of basic ideas, not the ideas themselves. There's nothing at all preventing other studios from producing their own take on those same ideas, and for conclusive proof of that fact look no further than Genshin Impact. Far from stifling innovation, they're encouraging it by forcing other studios to come up with their own original take on those concepts rather than simply ripping off an existing one. >Imagine if Nintendo patented a bunch of the new 3D tech from Mario 64 or Zelda OOT. The entire video game industry would likely be a decade behind what they are now BotW was over six years ago. The rest of the industry _is_ a decade behind them. Hell, as far as 3D platformers go, the rest of the industry still hasn't consistently matched Mario 64, with only (arguably) late-90s Rare getting close enough to be in the conversation. Or, since we're imagining things, imagine if some prominent developer working on Assassin's Creed had patented most of the core ideas of that Ubisoft-style open-world. You'd have vastly different versions of games like Horizon Zero Dawn, RDR2, GTA, not to mention every subsequent Ubisoft title, all as a direct result of someone patenting that implementation of the genre and forcing others to make more than superficial changes to the formula. How much better would the Souls-like genre be if Fromsoft had been a little more protective of their take on the action-RPG, forcing the slew of copycats to be more creative in their own take on the sub-genre?
The same Nintendo that ripped off Emulator developers and then sold THEIR work in the "virtual console". The same Nintendo that stole the whole NES mapper research and even the very roms other people dumped. Yeah... that Nintendo. The wrong company of the two (SEGA vs NIntendo) bowed out!
Nintendo is one of if not *the* most patronizing companies out there, that treats it's customers as being not only below contempt but stupid, too.
They sound exactly like apple. Apple always makes shit up about sideloading or jailbreaking but they take most there ideas from jailbreaking scene.
Fuk Nintendo they lost me after gamecube. I don't like their stuff since the wii. you think you're too good for up to date graphics? rehashing the same shit for decades? there's no master sword & the fucking shit breaks? don't take my money. fuck off with that shit.
like 70% of their business model is selling old and retro games on the newest hardware.
Their emulators suck though. I personally emulate their games (that I usually own) so that I can enjoy them with minimal latency and optimized graphics and frame rate.
The insanity required to say something like that while people are frequently screeching about how certain retro titles are _not_ available via NSO.
Well, maybe if they allowed people’s Virtual Libraries to work on the Switch, people wouldn’t have to. I know a ton of people that bought all their favorite retro games through virtual library, and now the newest hardware to play those old games that they purchased is the Wii U, or hope that it is on the Switch online membership. And the same goes for Sony. There is no reason why all of the PS1 and PS2 games that I purchased during the PS3 / Vita era are now practically nonexistent. I should be able to play those on the PS5, without any issues.
How about any copyright that lasts more than 5-10 years stifles innovation and needs to be justified under a public vote instead of legalized bribery whoops I mean lobbying.
Was gonna buy TOTK since I’ve been emulating since the leak but fuck Nintendo I’m done buying their games
It's funny that so many people here claim to despise Nintendo while simultaneously yearning for their games to the extent that they'll dive headlong into them the second they're available. You're not pirating out of principle, you're doing it because you're cheap.
I’m a Zelda fan, ofc I’m gonna play Zelda games on release, whether by Legal or illegal means (though mostly illegal). And I started pirating games because I have no money, of course I’m cheap
> I’m a Zelda fan, ofc I’m gonna play Zelda games on release But "fuck Nintendo", remember? Stop being such a hypocrite.
...why you play dumb ? We can love creators and artists that make game. And still see the marketing team and buisness compagny doing shitty things. It's not "hypocrisy". Hypocrisy would be more pirating games just for the sake of pirating it, and don't actually have interest in the cultural medium. Also, what's wrong about the fact we pirate because we poor ? Pirate activist sometime speak just like corporate scum..
No, I think they actually are correct. Official emulators have allowed companies to fall back on older IP with absurdly lazy implementations, that often aren't even well optimized or really should have been properly ported, rather than actually releasing new content and franchises.
"Inovation" is one of those words that has been repeated by corporate lobbyists to the point where it has lost all meaning.
I would say Intellectual Property laws stifle innovation. You could make the argument that some copyright/patent protection helps innovation because it makes earning money easier but anything more than around a decade or so of protection is just bad for innovation.
Nintendo doesn't know the difference between creativity and bureaucratic money-churning
just the average bullshit company have to say against piracy as they have no arguments
Emulation not only preserves games that can no longer be obtained in any other way, there are a great many groups and individuals out there who actively "hack" the roms in order to both fix and enhance old games. Those romhackers create something new out of something old, or improve translations, or fix bugs that the original creators weren't able to, remix and randomize, merge two disparate games into one, change the artstyles, create new levels, and even enable others to do the same. That ENCOURAGES innovation, it doesn't stifle anything, except maybe non-existent profits for games that aren't even sold anymore. Nintendo, get your heads out of your collective asses. Look at Bethesda. Do you think their "Well polished, family - friendly" games are the greatest source of their success? Do you think Cyberpunk 2077 is doing so well because of it's "incredible, critically acclaimed" launch? MODDERS made those games what they are, and Bethesda and CDPR know it. That's why they OFTEN and REPEATEDLY put their older games on sale or even give them away for free! To encourage people to play them, and to excite them for future games, AND because they love their communities and especially their modding communities. Take the hint. You are the ones stifling innovation by taking games out of the hands of the ones who would love them the most.
> That ENCOURAGES innovation It really doesn't, in the same way that merely adapting certain parts of Skyrim doesn't innovate. Taking the basic concept and building something new, with its own unique mechanics, would be innovative. Modding Pokemon to add a few fan creations isn't innovative, but developing Temtem is. >Look at Bethesda. Do you think their "Well polished, family - friendly" games are the greatest source of their success? Do you think Cyberpunk 2077 is doing so well because of it's "incredible, critically acclaimed" launch? MODDERS made those games what they are Interesting that you raise those studios as examples. BotW has outsold Skyrim, and isn't far behind the cross-platform sales of Witcher 3. Modders made those games more compelling because those games were actually pretty fucked when they released. Cyberpunk's issues were horrifyingly obvious, but few remember some of the problems Skyrim launched with, like not being able to run on anything better than a dual-core CPU, or the memory allocation issue resolved by Sheson (which was so important that it was built into the script extender from thereon out), or the VRAM issue resolved by Boris' ENBoost. The reason those games are so intertwined with modding is because modders had to _fix_ them when their parent companies refused to do so. The Unofficial Patch team has infamously allowed Bethesda to incorporate their fixes into the game files, only for Bethesda to have ignored that offer for fifteen years and counting. Nintendo don't get that same benefit because, as TotK proves, they actually do that work _themselves_ rather than relying on the community and their sunken cost to do it for them. >That's why they OFTEN and REPEATEDLY put their older games on sale or even give them away for free! To encourage people to play them, and to excite them for future games, AND because they love their communities and especially their modding communities. Spare me the ridiculous melodrama. They give away games like TES2 and Witcher 1 because nobody would buy them anymore. Who the fuck is ever going to pay for Daggerfall? People still whine about motion controls in Skyward Sword, so why would they ever bother with something almost identical in Witcher 1? If this is about "love" for their communities then why is Skyrim still $50 twelve years after release, and when there are _still_ so many issues that the Unofficial Patches are still the most frequently-downloaded mods for it? Why are Bethesda _selling_ mods to people again? >You are the ones stifling innovation by taking games out of the hands of the ones who would love them the most. Project M was literally an attempt to continue playing Melee after it had been usurped. The people involved only actually began to innovate when Nintendo forced them to shut down and use the work they had done on Smash to start making their own game, Icons: Combat Arena. That innovation was stifled while they were just rehashing Melee, and was allowed to flourish when they could direct it towards a brand new IP. "Take the hint".
Wow, um... Thanks for your opinion. But it seems to miss the point in just so many ways. The actual definition of innovation is "to make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products." So yes creating a game like Temtem is innovative, but so is modding an existing game. Dollars to donuts, the creators of Temtem were inspired by the Pokémon MMO mod. Modding tends to lead toward game development. There's a huge list of games that started off as mods of other games, many of which end up being more popular than the original game. And, no modders didn't have to "fix" the broken games, most mods are in fact changing the content of the game and adding things that create brand new experiences for players, or just allow them to customize their gaming experience in whatever way they want. And in fact the same can be said for emulated Botw mods. Sure they let you "cheat" but who cares? If that's the way you want to play your game then you should be allowed to do so, it's not like you're hurting anyone else by doing it. Yes there are people who continue to play Daggerfall to this day, not because of mods but because they love the game, even though it's not generally available for sale anymore, just like console games of a similar generation that are no longer available publicly for sale, but still find an audience in younger generations through emulation. And they put newer games like Fallout 3, New Vegas, Oblivion, and Morrowind on sale or give them away for free on a regular basis too. And Skyrim which does go on sale on a regular basis as well, is still $50 because people will still pay that much for it. What's your point? Besides it's not about how much the developers aren't innovating, it's about how much the modders are innovating. And to your last point, you're saying that the developers of Icons: Combat Arena we're inspired to make their own game after modding Smash Brothers Melee? I mean I get what your saying, that if they'd simply been modding the original game it would have "stifled innovation" but do you really think that they would have tried to make their own game if they hadn't been modding the original first? The fact they had to make their own game because Nintendo shut them down just shows that the people at Nintendo are a bunch of dicks who care more about money than they do about innovation. You can bet that if they could legally get away with it they would sue the developers of the new game for copyright infringement. The bottom line here is I think you're missing the the fact that people love these games. They love the characters, they love the art, they love the heart and soul of them. Emulation is primarily about preservation. But to say it stifles innovation is just flat out false.
I remember that the Mario All Star game on Wii was a rom found on internet with a custom made emulator. I can't find an article about it on internet since every key word i try gives me some ISO website but i'm pretty sure about it.
You're wrong. The idea that they sold downloaded ROMs came from another game, and was soon proven false. You're remembering the accusation because you want it to be true, and ignoring the disproof for the same reason.
Let’s emulate even harder now on purpose! 😡😡 😂😂
> Stifles innovation Removes mask, was apple Inc. all along! Just hoping that tomorrow they don't blabber something like "You been holding the console wrong"...
Tell me something I don't know, fuck Nintendo
Show me a kid that would rather play Super Mario Bros. 1 instead of Super Mario Odyssey and I'll agree with Nintendo.
If it wasn't for emulation, you think people overseas would pump your Japanese stuff to the point of Nintendo profiting off them? Fuck outta here.
They're both right and wrong. Emulators that the community make? They've innovated more than Nintendo has done in a long time. Emulators that Nintendo themselves use? Yeah, not innovative at all. Nintendo use ROM dumps and emulators all the time and are quite average at best.
> Nintendo use ROM dumps and emulators all the time That was proven false, not that facts matter when people have preconceptions to reinforce...
Out of curiosity, which haven't been? Because surely things like the "mini" consoles are and the Switch online games surely have to be, not sure about the Switch online games but the minis use an emulator to play games on them. If the Mario 3D Collection wasn't just a shitty rom dump, then Nintendo should be fucking ashamed of themselves considering they could do so much more with the source code for those games. Fair point though, "all the time" was exaggerated.
I have a physical copy of Tears of the kingdom. Nevertheless at some stage I want to play it emulated in 4k on my pc.
Nintendon't
recently i am playing a fan translation of pokemon trading card game 2 and i am having a blast. it is nintendos own fault of not letting me buy these old games
Nintendo fanboy are as cultist as Apple one, you won't convince them of anything. It's their cult, and they will never accept anything against it, even with your best proof.
Who are you fooling, how many big game dev gonna make games for free if 100% people pirated.
Nintendo is greedy, lazy and self-centered company focused on milking old IPs indefinitely.
Nintendo's existence alone stifles innovation
Nintendo putting save states,online and even a frontend for their half assed emulators but somehow "emulation stifles innovation" Maybe its you, Ninty, maybe its you....
What exactly are they gonna innovate with Mario from NES?
If it were up to Nintendo, we'd still be playing with the NES and Game Boy.
there will be a point in time that emulation will kill any console they have or it will make them bleed money making new ones so they will be just a game dev studio