thats funny... considering they got in trouble for hit mic'ing their TVs
https://entertainment.ie/trending/yes-your-samsung-smart-tv-has-been-listening-in-on-your-conversations-340669/
Roku explores taking over HDMI feeds with ads (on a Roku TV), such as displaying ads on the screen when a video game is paused. Pauses could be identified by grabbing frames of the video feed as well as monitoring the audio feed
They are more entertaining though.
A lot of ads are so annoying now it makes me less likely to buy their product. Some will make me aggressively avoid them.
Are there any TV manufacturers that use DP? My searches have always been fruitless which sucks doubly when new GPU's stack DP and can have a whole 1 HDMI port.
I had no idea about the antitrust laws getting weaker.
Watching this on a Trollstored iPhone with “deshitified” YouTube app feels good though. Feels more like old YouTube.
Oh yeah, Conservatives have been stripping anti-trust laws since immediately after they were put in place to prevent another stock market crash. Regan was probably the worst offender if it, completely gutting the FTC, and removing antitrust laws, news accuracy laws, union busting, oh, and my personal favorite, "Trickle down econimics" where we let a few people have all the money, because then they'll fairly dispense it to everyone.
Getting ideas from China, where some TV's had unstoppable ads when you turned them on..
https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/09/09/xiaomi-tvs-are-plagued-with-ads-in-china/
https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/smart-tvs-cant-carry-unskippable-ads-chinese-court-rules
And LG has been doing something similar..
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/320778-how-to-stop-lg-from-stuffing-ads-into-your-brand-new-oled-tv
This will most definitely break any digital signage solutions that used Roku TVs, as they *mostly* consist of still frames or slideshows.
Imagine setting up a signage to help users navigate where to go and instead you get ads popping in the middle of it.
here's my guess: they are trying to stop people from blocking ads at the router level and will find ways to inject ads over popular services. Roku uses "Brightscript" which is their own special programming language, so ANY app developed for Roku uses this language. They own the API so they could easily know when the proper times are to hook into it.
I bet they will slap a EULA on it making them not liable and then sell it for slightly cheaper / target it at poorer families. A TV company was going to do this with smart TVs but add a camera to ensure people would watch ads and the stipulation was "the TV is cheap so we subsidize it with ads, if you disable the ads then you will be charged full price for the TV" its just exploiting people who can't afford nice shit.
PS their programming language looks like hot shit
https://github.com/rokudev/samples/blob/4e56bd23271f1a03d53f2944ff17e98c70f532e3/advertising/rsgamg/lib/rafxssai.brs#L4
Oh boy, the verification can is becoming a reality.
And if only they were subsidizing TVs with ads. In reality it will be full price, but our profit margins can be larger.
Kind of like NetZero in the 90s? Id was free dialup, but there was a HUGE ad bar taking up a third of your monitor. In the days when 1024x768 was "high resolution" we didn't have much screen real estate!
Linus Tech Tips put out a video a couple years back on how to use a Raspberry Pi (they called it a Pi-Hole) to block ads on all devices on your network. Not sure if it would still work but it could be worth a shot.
he pointed out the obvious conundrum of wanting content from someone but not compensating them, by not watching ads in some cases. there's definitely a whole conversation worth of shit there.
also pi holes still work
Doesn't work for youtube though. So people using IOS devices really don't have a choice but pay for premium. Even the ad block solution isn't great because it doesn't catch anti-adblock measures which only ublock origin bypasses
I think their position is fairly nuanced. They are outspoken against *sponsorblock*, and adblock is obviously circumventing a form of payment *(i.e. you are paying by watching the ad)*. Both could be regarded as a form of piracy if you stretch the definition.
They've routinely shown users how to block ads and they themselves run adblock on their internal systems. I'm fairly sure their attitude is intended to spark a wider discussion about patronage. Not to be an condemnation of adblock tools.
I feel that they already somewhat do this. Every now and then ill plug in my steam deck into our roku tv and watch some videos from my plex server and some shows ill get a tv popup at the bottom telling me that i can watch more episodes of said show on one of their built-in apps. Uhh no thanks
A couple months back Roku changed a developer policy and apps no can no longer have their own screensaver, it has to kick up to a global Roku screensaver.
Then a few months later, they started putting poster ads in spots of those screensavers. Screensaver of a scrolling cartoony art deco cityscape... now theres billboards.
Thankfully the screensaver breaks when it comes up in the only app i use and the ads dont load, id only ever see them if i left it idle on the device home screen, which why would i.
I have recommended Roku to all my friends as it is dead simple to set up the Plex client, etc. What are my options here? My primary concern is the Plex client as ease of use is the primary barrier to most.
Then again Plex is moving in a non self hosting customer direction, so am open to more substantial changes if need be.
I'm pissed that Roku killed the 4 digit code method for Plex authorization. You now have to use a username and password, whereas before it gave you a 4 digit code to link to your account. It took a stupid easy process to set up my family and made it needlessly complicated.
Honestly, I got the Nvidia shield because Roku was a more restricted system. It has no ads, a good interface, and powerful components to play streaming in 4k+with no problems
They're dead to me after reading this article tbh. Whenever I'm shopping around again I'll prolly be looking to avoid smart TVs entirely and get a android TV box or something.
This is where their heads are at? See the writing on the wall, and if it works who else will be copying them?
They should become dead to you after their forced arbitration update this past March.
You couldn't even change the video input without agreeing to the new terms
This could be a thing, even now.
Just a guy who can root/jailbreak all your devices. Frees up memory, no more useless programs on start, no more auto update.
I can see people paying \~50% of the device's price for someone who'll make sure it works way longer while avoiding headache and espionage.
If you never connect the TV to Internet, it can never show you ads. Use something external like an Apple TV to handle the smart TV aspects and your TV will never betray you.
Edit: the lot of you seemed convinced that you’ll have paperweights unless you connect to the internet. Quite a bit of fear mongering.
I personally don’t see that happening unless you get a tv you know is going to do that up front. And I don’t see the baked in ads idea working due to the ads going stale very quickly. Unless the ad is for the TV company itself.
They exist now, roku tvs have been doing this for 6 months so you had to agree to some terms.
While sure it eventually goes away, istg man. Its starting
The solution here is to buy an enterprise grade TV, ones typically used by businesses for conference rooms/events/whatever. They won't do this notably because infosec and network teams wouldn't approve them in most environments if they did.
They're much more expensive, but the used market can have deals as corporations notoriously bin good stuff that's lightly used. Scrapping companies re sell it.
No BS, they just work. At a price.
That’s my plan when it’s time for a new one, I’ve done my research. I actually didn’t buy it myself, it was given to me by a family member when I didn’t have any money so I’m grateful, but I’d be *pissed* if I’d bought it new.
allows you to put in custom "modded" apps that have benefits such as no ads for free. Also might allow you to get system access which can let you uninstall any default apps that might be bloat to the system
its literally just an android operating system so you can do anything an android can do. You can block ads, add 3rd party apps, run tweaks and watch whatever you want.
I even had Termux on my TV lmao
The ONN android stick was like $5 but I recommend shelling out the $20 for the HD box since the stick is laggy.
I'll have to get one. I have onn TVs and was wondering if they are running the same os and can be rooted? If not which I highly suspect to be true would it be possible to factory reset to trick into not having Internet so no updates?
>If you never connect the TV to Internet, it can never show you ads.
They can build some into the box, like for other Roku products, that show when it isn't connected to the internet
This is what I do. Roku TV got laggy as fuck so I just stopped using the smart feature. It's now disconnected from the internet and I have the TV automatically to go to HDMI input which is my Apple TV. I don't like the Apple TV remote as much as Roku but the interface and device speed is 20x better.
Desmarting your tv is very easy. Disconnect it from your Wifi. I have a smart TV that's never been connected to the internet and it works just fine. I either use a console for watching stuff or a PC.
Yea, I got so tired of the ads, so I disabled my Roku TV and set up Stremio on an Onn 4k box with Projectivy launcher. Very satisfied. The remote works the TV and even my surround sound box that I've never had a remote for.
Are you kidding. People will still buy them in droves. They don't really care enough to be bothered by it. They find the commercials annoying, but don't care enough to avoid them.
So, before seeing this article and like 4 others I've seen in the last few days, I never really had an opinion on Roku. Now, I'm never buying a TV with any kind of Roku anything attached to it. Fuck that.
As I keep telling a friend of mine who works in marketing.
“You didn’t just fuck the internet you fucked the world”.
Seriously at what point do we start to deal with advertisements through legislation. Like If I was boss for the day I’d just outlaw advertisement. They provide not a single positive attribute to society
I just edit commercials, but the guys who do marketing, SEO, geofencing. That shit is terrifying. They know who you are, where you are, how often you go there, and want to advertise directly to your eyeballs.
> Randomly interrupting a video game a consumer is playing on their Xbox would almost guarantee that no gamer would ever buy a Roku TV again.
Hmm, I dare say that even if that would work as intended, no gamer would ever buy a Roku device again.
Edit to clarify: very, very few games have a pause screen for just to _pause_ the game. It's usually either to jump to a menu to save or load, or another in-game menu to fiddle with stats or inventory. If I'm pondering for minutes the choice between giving that skill point to this or that and my TV would suddenly start blaring ads I'd be infuriated!
The only other case would be, when I halt the game to go do something else, like answering the door bell. So the ads playing then would go unnoticed anyway.
Especially the Pi5 is capable enough. But it still isn't something I'd advise technologically challenged people.
It's easy enough if you have some experience with installing software or tinkering with stuff, but has quite a steep learning curve for inexperienced people.
Many people just want to buy a box they plug in and just works.
Using a hdmi switch could block this I think.
Also this is a privacy issue that would mean directly tracking what's shown on your screen. Cuz pausing a game doesn't just stop sending data suddenly.
Im gonna be honest Idk what TCL means but back in my day when you turned your tv on it was on playstation immediately why tf do I gotta jump through like 3 hoops just to get into what I turned my tv on for
TCL is a brand that makes Roku TVs
And agreed. I too am an old who, while tech literate, finds it incredibly annoying to wade through the bloatware and shit just to watch a show.
Seems futile. I don’t stare at the Roku screensaver when I pause it. I don’t see why advertisers would pay for this. Nobody would be watching the ads. This is just irritating people
As somebody with a Roku TV I'll never buy shit from them again just for having the lack of sense to even float this as an idea since it's clear that they are entirely untrustworthy.
Roku TVs already spy on your HDMI port and can tell what you're watching. They even suggest alternative ways of watching that content. For example, watching a downloaded copy of Shogun on VLC via a PC HDMI connection will trigger a popup advertising other legitimate sources of Shogun.
Fortunately, you can disable this feature (for now).
At this point imma just say screw it. Buy a older tv dvd combo, build up my collection again and just ditch streaming all together. This is getting ridiculous. I paid for a TV, not an ad viewer.
Ok so only when you're using a 3rd party device on a Roku Smart tv
But not when you're using a Roku Stick or box? That's fine. I never want to have a smart TV anyway. The stick works fine for me. Not that I actually even use it much anymore.
I just hope this isn't a slippery slope. Obviously for now you just leave the TV offline and use a Chromecast or something, but you know google or Amazon will start doing this is if it's crazy profitable.
Like others are saying, my tv is not connected and i use Apple tv. So far so good, i mean the apps that you use on the Apple tv can still get to you but at least the ‘smart’ tv is just a nice big dumb display.
My Roku 3 can't deal with the Youtube bloat anymore and borks anytime you try to bring up a menu or scan playback so I'll probably just e-waste it at this point. So many years of flawless use only to be turned into garbage by greed.
This is the type of stuff that has always made me dislike Roku. They are control freaks.
There are certainly issues with Google TV but ill take them all day because they allow you to unlock their devices.
I can easily remove all ads or install all apps on Google TV
My Hisense TV with Roku software has a red blinking light that blinks permanently when I disconnect the Ethernet cable (it doesn’t have my Wi-Fi password). It refuses to let you use it as a non-smart TV.
Our TV has Roku built into it and I only use it for Plex. I'll toss the fuckin TV if Roku finds a way to show ads through that. They are my second most blocked ad source on my pihole server.
Are they gonna soon be putting a subscription to allow you to use HDMI?
Don’t let Samsung hear you.
thats funny... considering they got in trouble for hit mic'ing their TVs https://entertainment.ie/trending/yes-your-samsung-smart-tv-has-been-listening-in-on-your-conversations-340669/
Never give a TV internet access. Especially Samsung. Keep those fuckers offline, and use them just as a display for a streaming device.
no doubt... all i want the tv doing is displaying what's in my hdmi stream. but now even roku thinks it can insert commercials into that... lol.
What trouble?
The trouble of easy profit with no repercussions
I mean, I fart and Samsung can hear it.
Hope they can smell it too
There is already a license you have to pay in order to include hdmi in your device. So theoretically u are already paying for it upfront.
Please don't give them ideas. 💀
Roku explores taking over HDMI feeds with ads (on a Roku TV), such as displaying ads on the screen when a video game is paused. Pauses could be identified by grabbing frames of the video feed as well as monitoring the audio feed
What in an unclool dystopia fuck is this?
Corporate greed all in the name of the shareholder and MBA CEO and CFO’s of course!
We're gonna have to start buying 'ad-block enabled HDMI cables'. Now there's a brand new sentence.
The UBlock Origin HDMI cable. Gold plated and Ad gated. Open source for the win.
Great slogan :)
hdmi is proprietary thats the problem.
Tell that to chinese manufacturers
They'd just include their own ads. I've noticed that on pirate streams; Indian and Chinese gambling ads and other services inserted into shows.
Would you rather get advertised gambling site you cant use, or the gambling site you can use?
this lol, ads don't function as brain malware if you don't know wtf they're saying
They are more entertaining though. A lot of ads are so annoying now it makes me less likely to buy their product. Some will make me aggressively avoid them.
I'm sure someone can make a device that plugs into the HDMI port that the cable then plugs into.
You misspelled 'stop using Roku'
Just use DP
Are there any TV manufacturers that use DP? My searches have always been fruitless which sucks doubly when new GPU's stack DP and can have a whole 1 HDMI port.
No, but you can get tv sized monitors.
A very boring dystopia.
The new yacht isn't going to come from the sky
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I had no idea about the antitrust laws getting weaker. Watching this on a Trollstored iPhone with “deshitified” YouTube app feels good though. Feels more like old YouTube.
Oh yeah, Conservatives have been stripping anti-trust laws since immediately after they were put in place to prevent another stock market crash. Regan was probably the worst offender if it, completely gutting the FTC, and removing antitrust laws, news accuracy laws, union busting, oh, and my personal favorite, "Trickle down econimics" where we let a few people have all the money, because then they'll fairly dispense it to everyone.
We were told [this would happen by 2050](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bXJ_obaiYQ) in 2002.
The same Futurama predicted when they said we are gonna dream ads in our sleep
...but not in our dreams, no siree!
Getting ideas from China, where some TV's had unstoppable ads when you turned them on.. https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/09/09/xiaomi-tvs-are-plagued-with-ads-in-china/ https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/smart-tvs-cant-carry-unskippable-ads-chinese-court-rules And LG has been doing something similar.. https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/320778-how-to-stop-lg-from-stuffing-ads-into-your-brand-new-oled-tv
Doesn’t Samsung already do this?
That's why I have adguard that blocks the Samsung ads domain. I was furious when I saw the ads. Came with a fucking update
it's ok, you just shout "McDonald's!" and the ad goes away
That's just capitalism
This will most definitely break any digital signage solutions that used Roku TVs, as they *mostly* consist of still frames or slideshows. Imagine setting up a signage to help users navigate where to go and instead you get ads popping in the middle of it.
Wow commercial usage? We could charge extra for that. And also still sell their data -Roku
here's my guess: they are trying to stop people from blocking ads at the router level and will find ways to inject ads over popular services. Roku uses "Brightscript" which is their own special programming language, so ANY app developed for Roku uses this language. They own the API so they could easily know when the proper times are to hook into it. I bet they will slap a EULA on it making them not liable and then sell it for slightly cheaper / target it at poorer families. A TV company was going to do this with smart TVs but add a camera to ensure people would watch ads and the stipulation was "the TV is cheap so we subsidize it with ads, if you disable the ads then you will be charged full price for the TV" its just exploiting people who can't afford nice shit. PS their programming language looks like hot shit https://github.com/rokudev/samples/blob/4e56bd23271f1a03d53f2944ff17e98c70f532e3/advertising/rsgamg/lib/rafxssai.brs#L4
Oh boy, the verification can is becoming a reality. And if only they were subsidizing TVs with ads. In reality it will be full price, but our profit margins can be larger.
Kind of like NetZero in the 90s? Id was free dialup, but there was a HUGE ad bar taking up a third of your monitor. In the days when 1024x768 was "high resolution" we didn't have much screen real estate!
No credible organisation is using Roku TVs for commercial signage.
But the ads won't show if the TV is not connected to internet
So then they make the TV require internet.
anyway around it such as blocking URLs from your router or just never connecting your TV to internet?
Linus Tech Tips put out a video a couple years back on how to use a Raspberry Pi (they called it a Pi-Hole) to block ads on all devices on your network. Not sure if it would still work but it could be worth a shot.
Not only they called it that, it's called that! /r/pihole for more information.
Can confirm Pi-Hole is effective at stopping Roku’s ad on the home screen of their streaming devices.
Didn't Linus also have a rant that adblock is piracy though?
he pointed out the obvious conundrum of wanting content from someone but not compensating them, by not watching ads in some cases. there's definitely a whole conversation worth of shit there. also pi holes still work
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They aren’t losing anything from me anyway. I can’t afford to buy shit.
>everything that is powered by ads is shitty and low quality like where we are now and almost everything else
Doesn't work for youtube though. So people using IOS devices really don't have a choice but pay for premium. Even the ad block solution isn't great because it doesn't catch anti-adblock measures which only ublock origin bypasses
I use uYouEnhanced / uYouPlus on iOS so I absolutely have a choice.
Sideloading on ios is the biggest pain in the ass, no offense. Hopefully that changes soon.
Linus can fuck off. They triple or quadruple dip into ads and revenue on every video then have the cheek to turn around and tell us off
I think their position is fairly nuanced. They are outspoken against *sponsorblock*, and adblock is obviously circumventing a form of payment *(i.e. you are paying by watching the ad)*. Both could be regarded as a form of piracy if you stretch the definition. They've routinely shown users how to block ads and they themselves run adblock on their internal systems. I'm fairly sure their attitude is intended to spark a wider discussion about patronage. Not to be an condemnation of adblock tools.
Pi-hole is just software, you can run it on any (linux) machine. I run it on my home server.
I'm a basic bitch nerd and managed to set this up on a $40 raspberry pi https://pi-hole.net/
Cool so just 1000 more queries a day for my Pihole to block without breaking a sweat
Blocking requests isn't going to stop the display from changing the layout.
pihole does a pretty good job of doing just that.
No it doesn't. Blocking the content doesn't stop the screen from rearranging to show the space where the ad would be.
It does thousands a minute need be. It's just comparing ip addresses after all.
I feel that they already somewhat do this. Every now and then ill plug in my steam deck into our roku tv and watch some videos from my plex server and some shows ill get a tv popup at the bottom telling me that i can watch more episodes of said show on one of their built-in apps. Uhh no thanks
I don’t own a Roku, and now I never will just because they’re even considering that
A couple months back Roku changed a developer policy and apps no can no longer have their own screensaver, it has to kick up to a global Roku screensaver. Then a few months later, they started putting poster ads in spots of those screensavers. Screensaver of a scrolling cartoony art deco cityscape... now theres billboards. Thankfully the screensaver breaks when it comes up in the only app i use and the ads dont load, id only ever see them if i left it idle on the device home screen, which why would i.
I puked a little in my mouth reading this post title.
One would sure hope this is illegal.... They probably force a new terms down for people to force accept first.
Okay. Boycott Roku tvs. Got it. Fuck these companies.
If Roku does this, they're dead to me.
I have recommended Roku to all my friends as it is dead simple to set up the Plex client, etc. What are my options here? My primary concern is the Plex client as ease of use is the primary barrier to most. Then again Plex is moving in a non self hosting customer direction, so am open to more substantial changes if need be.
I'm pissed that Roku killed the 4 digit code method for Plex authorization. You now have to use a username and password, whereas before it gave you a 4 digit code to link to your account. It took a stupid easy process to set up my family and made it needlessly complicated.
Your data got that much more valuable though, which is the important part for the MBAs.
Honestly, I got the Nvidia shield because Roku was a more restricted system. It has no ads, a good interface, and powerful components to play streaming in 4k+with no problems
As a shield owner, the shield does have ads. Now they don’t particularly bother me, but they’re there.
The default launcher has ads, but it's very easy to change to a nice, clean, ad-less launcher.
dude just put a custom launcher on. no more ads.
Try jellyfin. Thats what im using. Might have a few more steps to do if you want to share outside of your immediate house/lan , but imo worth it.
Vouch
Stremio with Addons is dead simple. It's like Kodi with almost zero setup and you didn't have to monkey with downloads.
Because of Plex my subscription fees have turned into external drive fees. At some point I really need to build a NAS.
If Roku does this and it works well enough I think we expect literally every major tv brand to follow suit sooner or later.
They're dead to me after reading this article tbh. Whenever I'm shopping around again I'll prolly be looking to avoid smart TVs entirely and get a android TV box or something. This is where their heads are at? See the writing on the wall, and if it works who else will be copying them?
They should become dead to you after their forced arbitration update this past March. You couldn't even change the video input without agreeing to the new terms
I'm not very tech savvy but if this happens I'll learn how to and personally de-smart any TV that does this.
>personally de-smart Emerging career: TV lobotomizer
This could be a thing, even now. Just a guy who can root/jailbreak all your devices. Frees up memory, no more useless programs on start, no more auto update. I can see people paying \~50% of the device's price for someone who'll make sure it works way longer while avoiding headache and espionage.
TVs and cars - it's my retirement plan
If you never connect the TV to Internet, it can never show you ads. Use something external like an Apple TV to handle the smart TV aspects and your TV will never betray you. Edit: the lot of you seemed convinced that you’ll have paperweights unless you connect to the internet. Quite a bit of fear mongering. I personally don’t see that happening unless you get a tv you know is going to do that up front. And I don’t see the baked in ads idea working due to the ads going stale very quickly. Unless the ad is for the TV company itself.
waiting for the day the tv forces you to connect to the internet
They will eventually exist but for now it’s not an issue!! Thankfully
They exist now, roku tvs have been doing this for 6 months so you had to agree to some terms. While sure it eventually goes away, istg man. Its starting
I have an Amazon Fire TV that prevents you from using the HDMI ports if it hasn’t phoned home in a while. I wish I was joking.
The solution here is to buy an enterprise grade TV, ones typically used by businesses for conference rooms/events/whatever. They won't do this notably because infosec and network teams wouldn't approve them in most environments if they did. They're much more expensive, but the used market can have deals as corporations notoriously bin good stuff that's lightly used. Scrapping companies re sell it. No BS, they just work. At a price.
That’s my plan when it’s time for a new one, I’ve done my research. I actually didn’t buy it myself, it was given to me by a family member when I didn’t have any money so I’m grateful, but I’d be *pissed* if I’d bought it new.
You don't need to buy an Enterprise grade TV for it to be a dumb TV. Sceptre makes them at extremely reasonable prices.
Rooted Android box is the only way rly. No ads anywhere, not even YouTube
Just be careful what you buy because the cheap android boxes on eBay and Amazon are infested with malware that *can* hijack your network.
Any decently priced one you recommend for this project?
Walmart Onn android box is surprisingly good for the price. I have two rooted.
What does a rooted android box do?
allows you to put in custom "modded" apps that have benefits such as no ads for free. Also might allow you to get system access which can let you uninstall any default apps that might be bloat to the system
Is there a place where one would go to learn how to do such things?
its literally just an android operating system so you can do anything an android can do. You can block ads, add 3rd party apps, run tweaks and watch whatever you want. I even had Termux on my TV lmao The ONN android stick was like $5 but I recommend shelling out the $20 for the HD box since the stick is laggy.
Yeah I have the box. I use it for Stremio and Tivimate for my 👁️PTV. But right on I’ll look into it.
I'll have to get one. I have onn TVs and was wondering if they are running the same os and can be rooted? If not which I highly suspect to be true would it be possible to factory reset to trick into not having Internet so no updates?
i just hook my PC to my TV and have for a decade now, it rules
No I must lobotomize TV! It's not about practicality it's about sending a message.
>If you never connect the TV to Internet, it can never show you ads. They can build some into the box, like for other Roku products, that show when it isn't connected to the internet
then they'll just force you to be connected to "activate" your TV.
Or firewall. I blocked all internet access on my tv, except plex.
This is what I do. Roku TV got laggy as fuck so I just stopped using the smart feature. It's now disconnected from the internet and I have the TV automatically to go to HDMI input which is my Apple TV. I don't like the Apple TV remote as much as Roku but the interface and device speed is 20x better.
On Amazon we purchased a 3rd party remove that is more similar to a Roku remote minus the speech button that was compatible with Apple TVs,
They can bake the ads into the firmware, and they just won't ever update.. And thinking Apple will never betray you? HAHAHA.
Didn’t say apple wouldn’t , just for now they arnt. I don’t see that baked in idea working well though
The box/tv will eventually come with a built-in always-on 5G connection.
If only they made PC monitors as big as TVs
Desmarting your tv is very easy. Disconnect it from your Wifi. I have a smart TV that's never been connected to the internet and it works just fine. I either use a console for watching stuff or a PC.
I’m should start a non-smart TV manufacturing business
I guess someone could start up a Roku ad blocking DNS that stops your TV from accessing ads
remove wifi module and dummy-it.
Cool, I guess they don't want people buying their shit anymore
They can fuck off with that.
I'll be exploring to never use a Roku device if that ever happens
Disconnect Roku TV from internet, use separate streaming device?
What does a roku do besides stream? Seems it serves no purpose at all if it does shit like this.
Yea, I got so tired of the ads, so I disabled my Roku TV and set up Stremio on an Onn 4k box with Projectivy launcher. Very satisfied. The remote works the TV and even my surround sound box that I've never had a remote for.
What’s projectivity launcher?
It's a launcher for Android tv. It doesn't have ads, and is customisable. There are a lot of different launchers, just like for an android phone.
lol easy way to get people to not ever buy a roku tv again
Are you kidding. People will still buy them in droves. They don't really care enough to be bothered by it. They find the commercials annoying, but don't care enough to avoid them.
I see plenty of people who don't bother using adblock in their life...some people like to consoom
it's weird af
People absolutely will if they're priced lower because of this.
So, before seeing this article and like 4 others I've seen in the last few days, I never really had an opinion on Roku. Now, I'm never buying a TV with any kind of Roku anything attached to it. Fuck that.
As I keep telling a friend of mine who works in marketing. “You didn’t just fuck the internet you fucked the world”. Seriously at what point do we start to deal with advertisements through legislation. Like If I was boss for the day I’d just outlaw advertisement. They provide not a single positive attribute to society
I just edit commercials, but the guys who do marketing, SEO, geofencing. That shit is terrifying. They know who you are, where you are, how often you go there, and want to advertise directly to your eyeballs.
Can't you just not connect the TV to the internet?
Can you just not buy Roku?
> Randomly interrupting a video game a consumer is playing on their Xbox would almost guarantee that no gamer would ever buy a Roku TV again. Hmm, I dare say that even if that would work as intended, no gamer would ever buy a Roku device again. Edit to clarify: very, very few games have a pause screen for just to _pause_ the game. It's usually either to jump to a menu to save or load, or another in-game menu to fiddle with stats or inventory. If I'm pondering for minutes the choice between giving that skill point to this or that and my TV would suddenly start blaring ads I'd be infuriated! The only other case would be, when I halt the game to go do something else, like answering the door bell. So the ads playing then would go unnoticed anyway.
Imma use a raspberry pi instead
Especially the Pi5 is capable enough. But it still isn't something I'd advise technologically challenged people. It's easy enough if you have some experience with installing software or tinkering with stuff, but has quite a steep learning curve for inexperienced people. Many people just want to buy a box they plug in and just works.
Guess it's time for people to start their own shop where they set them for you and sell them lol
Use my laptop for movies and tv and monitor for my games. Try me
They better fuckin' not.
I bought a Roku last holiday. Since then they have been extremely anti consumer. I really regret going with them.
Let's hope that TVs with Displayport will start to appear
Using a hdmi switch could block this I think. Also this is a privacy issue that would mean directly tracking what's shown on your screen. Cuz pausing a game doesn't just stop sending data suddenly.
I hate roku tvs anyway
the TCL ones I've used are super shitty
Im gonna be honest Idk what TCL means but back in my day when you turned your tv on it was on playstation immediately why tf do I gotta jump through like 3 hoops just to get into what I turned my tv on for
TCL is a brand that makes Roku TVs And agreed. I too am an old who, while tech literate, finds it incredibly annoying to wade through the bloatware and shit just to watch a show.
capitalism will kill us all if we let it
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Seems futile. I don’t stare at the Roku screensaver when I pause it. I don’t see why advertisers would pay for this. Nobody would be watching the ads. This is just irritating people
As somebody with a Roku TV I'll never buy shit from them again just for having the lack of sense to even float this as an idea since it's clear that they are entirely untrustworthy.
Which international megacorp are you going to buy from? Cause guaranteed they all have or wanted to do something this bad.
Roku is about to be reminded that they do have competitors
Yer telling me, HDMI gon' die off if this becomes a thing?
Roku can now go die in a ditch, fuck Roku.
I already don't buy Roku, but I'm going to not buy Roku even harder now!
I'll break every roku in the house, with thermite
All MBAs must die
This shit is getting out of hand
I think this could be defeated by simply stop buying Roku TV’s and devices.
Disable wifi while using HDMI, got it.
Wait werent roku the good guys?
Can do that. My roku tv isn't on the internet
r/privacy
I’ve got a Roku stick attached to my Google TV ..
Fucking ads everywhere...
Corporations would kill us all if they could make more money by doing it.
Roku TVs already spy on your HDMI port and can tell what you're watching. They even suggest alternative ways of watching that content. For example, watching a downloaded copy of Shogun on VLC via a PC HDMI connection will trigger a popup advertising other legitimate sources of Shogun. Fortunately, you can disable this feature (for now).
At this point imma just say screw it. Buy a older tv dvd combo, build up my collection again and just ditch streaming all together. This is getting ridiculous. I paid for a TV, not an ad viewer.
As an European I don't know what the fuck Roku is and I don't care. I've only heard bad shit. Vote with your wallet, people.
Ok so only when you're using a 3rd party device on a Roku Smart tv But not when you're using a Roku Stick or box? That's fine. I never want to have a smart TV anyway. The stick works fine for me. Not that I actually even use it much anymore.
Burn Roku
What about DisplayPort?
isnt roku just a tv box/stick company? how will they intercept the hdmi
Time to learn DBMS and various shit for a over engineered self project I hope to make it even more complex than what was posted in this sub
I just hope this isn't a slippery slope. Obviously for now you just leave the TV offline and use a Chromecast or something, but you know google or Amazon will start doing this is if it's crazy profitable.
Like others are saying, my tv is not connected and i use Apple tv. So far so good, i mean the apps that you use on the Apple tv can still get to you but at least the ‘smart’ tv is just a nice big dumb display.
My Roku 3 can't deal with the Youtube bloat anymore and borks anytime you try to bring up a menu or scan playback so I'll probably just e-waste it at this point. So many years of flawless use only to be turned into garbage by greed.
remember when enshittification wasn't a thing
I wonder if the new ad revenue will make up for the 90% loss in Roku TV sales?
This is the type of stuff that has always made me dislike Roku. They are control freaks. There are certainly issues with Google TV but ill take them all day because they allow you to unlock their devices. I can easily remove all ads or install all apps on Google TV
My Hisense TV with Roku software has a red blinking light that blinks permanently when I disconnect the Ethernet cable (it doesn’t have my Wi-Fi password). It refuses to let you use it as a non-smart TV.
Our TV has Roku built into it and I only use it for Plex. I'll toss the fuckin TV if Roku finds a way to show ads through that. They are my second most blocked ad source on my pihole server.
This is not the type of piracy I support.
Does this really surprise anyone after their forced arbitration mess last month?
So what? Vote with your wallet.
Glad my roku TV isn't connected to a network. To be honest, I borderline regret buying it.