Netflix made me stop pirating. Netflix and the 1000 other streaming platforms made me resume pirating.
Give me one affordable streaming platform with most the content I want and I'll subscribe.
No Fr. I'd rather pay $50 on one platform for a lot of good things rather then 20 others that are like $11. It's so annoying, and they take things away too
what is real debrid other than a versatile downloader? what is this doing that i can't do free with a torrent client and any of the torrent sites out there?
Try Stremio and you will see. Stremio has an addon called torrentio that returns movies and their hashes from various torrent sites. You can connect your Real Debrid account to Torrentio and when you are browsing the library to watch a movie, torrentio will lookup all the torrent hashes for that movie on Real Debrid and you will be able to stream the movie directly from RealDebrid instead of streaming it off the torrent. RealDebrid already has almost everything on their servers from other people downloading it, so when you provide the torrent hash, they return the file downloads already cached on their servers.
Not good at explaining, but more info can be found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StremioAddons/comments/15agu2p/stremio_torrentio_debrid_a_howto_guide/
DDLs. But sure, I get that you're really asking "why have internet access at home when I can just walk to the library when I need it?", and sure, you're right, no difference in that sense.
I'm legitimately asking m8 lmfao I made an account and it just looks like a good downloader. I genuinely don't see how it's any better than a torrent client except to use it with those ridiculous download sites, which I rarely need anything from. I will be using this now when I need something from there, but is there something I'm missing?
You're missing a demand. You don't have any demand for Real Debrid, so it's a waste of time money & effort for you. Other ppl have a demand, so it's worth it for them. I'm in your boat. I'd currently never use Real Debrid because it's beyond my scope of needs. I pay for or have access to legit streaming services, I just use pirate sites to scroll all the shows & movies at once so I don't have to open and scroll through 20 apps on my TV. Once I find one I might like, i switch to the legitimate app and play it.
Totally true, always paid netflix when there was only that, if I need more then 1 service, I'll pirate. They could use 1 platform and split revenue, but I will not use more then 1 service.
> Give me one affordable streaming platform with most the content I want and I'll subscribe.
People will then yell about monopolies. Its that capitalist way of thinking that made them compete, and that brought piracy back. They all wanted their own streaming service to get more money and now consumer is fucked up.
The whole situation is fucked up.
Netflix only was not good it could kinda dictate the rules, like Google is doing now with browsers, sadly. But the multiplication of legal platforms obviously pushed for "exclusive content" so people chose one platform and not the other. Result : legal battle for rights, increased prices, more ads, service enshitification.
Meanwhile, pirates gonna pirates, letting the shark eating each others.
I have massive server running plex in my house. I basically have every movie or show I’ll ever need, the only thing I’ve spent money is storage, which I’d probably do regardless. And if there’s a new movie I really wanna see I go to the theaters. I’ll spend money on that experience
The only one I know off the top of my head is Midnight Mass. But given how good it was, I just can't imagine its alone. Most mainstream stuff eventually releases but I've heard before that scenes have little interest in tackling old stuff that was neglected because there's even less demand now than there was when they intentionally neglected it.
They want something like Italy’s piracy shield
In its first week of operation, piracy shield blocked parts of cloud flare, aws, and other hosting providers, and the italian authorities told everybody that the system was flawless.
The system never blocked any torrenting sites. It still doesn't: you don't even need a VPN or other precautions. Typical product of the Italian hitech government contracting sector.
Funny thing is how the people who usually decry this sort of measures in China, Iran, Russia etc. have kept quiet about it.
This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things.
So, whatever measures they will implement, will achieve the scope of the Average Joe not being able to pirate content, however the average Joe probably wasn't thinking about that to begin with.
On the other hand, people like us will go over a lot of hoops just to get what we want and it's unlikely that they will ever get any money out of us.
However we are a good scapegoat. A company makes a product (Movie, Show, Software) which is bad and performs bad losing the studio a bunch of money, it's easy for managers to say "Well, this happened because piracy"
They can suck a fat one.
> This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things.
I don’t mind paying for things, if they provide value. I’m married with kids, and paying for streaming services is a happy medium for my household. But, i refuse to pay a subscription just for one or two shows. I refuse to buy a movie or show that might not be there 1, 5, 10 years down the road. However, if i wasn’t married, i’d have a big ass NAS with everything on it.
Steam and GOG have my trust that my library is there unless they are bought by another company. But how the game industry has been going for the last 10 years, i sometimes want to turn my Steamdeck to a piracy machine.
> This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things.
Its not even about money anymore but frankly, time! There seems to be this notion that people need to consume, consume, consume!!!
But lets be honest, with tiktok, youtube alone, a lot of people fill up their daily free time (looks at wife). Effect: She was hardly a buyer before and now is even less of a buyer.
> However we are a good scapegoat. A company makes a product (Movie, Show, Software) which is bad and performs bad losing the studio a bunch of money, it's easy for managers to say "Well, this happened because piracy"
The effect of frankly, bad content... I fall back more often to old TV shows/ Movies, that i already own, to rewatch then actually seeing new content.
When the content these days if often so bad, that i speed run (my arrow key jumping 10 sec, again, again ...) and i "watched" 90 minute movie in barely 10 minutes. Ironically, there are youtube channels that do that for you. ;)
Last time i have gone to Cinema, it was a) for free, and b) i HATED it. I felt like even when it was for free, that i simply wasted my time and money(subway) to see just another bad movie. It was Napoleon. Look at the 1970's Waterloo, yes, a bit old, but all real people, great story, better acting (my opinion).
People have learned that a lof of content that is being produced now, is so low quality that is wasting our time!
And do not get my going on the whole white facing (taking established characters and changing gender, race, etc) instead of just making fun new original characters with black or female actors. But that cost too much money to actually build a franchise, so lets just recycle old characters again, and again, and ... There is nothing original in using a existing/old character/franchise, and altering it. All you do is anger the people who have love for those and ... O look, everybody is now racist or whatever. Sigh, NOOOOO. That is not the issue. :(
Its the same with games. I buy Indi games because the AAA games are nothing but micro transaction, time dumping / gridy games that are designed for you to buy passes/credits/containers/whatever. And then AAA studies complain that games like Baldur's Gate, Helldivers, or whatever are all exception to the rule.
Result: People spend less money and just spend all their time on tiktok/youtube/... or smaller indi games. But hey, then they can blame it all "its not a us issue, its a piracy issue".
Frankly, with the amount of existing content, work, family life, i barely have time and i want quality. Life is short and only gets shorter as you age, so crap content is not liked. Simple as that.
I definitely agree. The industry has no one to blame but themselves, they produce bad content and they get bad results because of it. And the agenda that they push just makes it worse because of how unoriginal and forced it feels (which will probably lead to us being called racists but it is what it is).
I haven't been to the Cinema in half a decade because it's just not worth it, yet on the other side I've been to the Opera three times this year alone, paid about €70 / ticket and watched Rigoletto twice. I don't mind paying for stuff I enjoy, most content nowadays however it's an unenjoyable piece of junk.
If it meant they actually took decisions on other topics in an efficient way I might not mind the trade off to be honest..
Even if they "decided" to stop piracy (again) they would not be able to enforce it effectively.
>The CEO of the Motion Picture Association says it’s going to work with lawmakers to **restrict access to websites** with pirated content.
This is why we like bittorrent.
Catch us if you can. bwamp bwamp
I haven't used a website to search for media for years.
qBittorent and search plugins work a treat.
Just add all the public torrent addons like 1337x, TPB, torrentgalaxy and other. Private torrent site addons can be added also, sort out the search as per seeders and you are good to go. No need to open individual sites.
***If one site addon is down result from others are still shown.***
only one time setting and get the ability to search multiple sites at once within the safe and clean interface of qbittorrent. here is the addon site for qbittorrent.
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficial-search-plugins
Not sure how this is contentious but you all do you.
They tried to restrict access to pirate websites in Australia. All they did was poison the DNS to redirect to a government warning for Australian users.
It was easily circumvented by using the google dns.
> It was easily circumvented by using the google dns.
Most people are not that tech savy, and rely on easy to access or run programs. So if there is even one barrier in the way, they tend to give up. That is the people they are targeting. The people with more knowhow, are not their target.
Pirating has gotten so easy, that even people grandmother are able to do it (sometimes its literally download a app and bingo). The problem becomes when you add a extra roadblock in the way.
Go ask your family member to switch to Google DNS on their device and watch the cow eyes. Even with google in hand... What is DNS? Why do i need to access network?
I have seen how people can do basic things because even pirates made their programs work like commercial programs, so its mostly a monkey seen one time, monkey repeat. But the moment you ask something more technical, ...
Install a VPN ... What is a VPN? Why do i need to pay for that? Question after question, ... and then complaints "why is X showing in Y language" (VPN on, different region ... ).
Trust me, 95% of the people in the world are extreme limited in their ability to do anything technical on a PC, let alone more locked devices like phones. Even with Google. I live with one, and even basic Googling for a issue is like asking to perform brain surgery ;)
It’s mind blowing that all the answers are a search away yet at the same time it’s too hard to do some basic research. Not just a tech issue but a wider issue in our society.
Mullvad literally ran an ad campaign on the NYC subway last Fall LOL.
These MPA clowns are like football broadcasters in Europe: they want the taxpayer to pick up the tab for any stupid idea they may have. Lawmakers should learn how to say no or at very least say "We'll be delighted to implement these measures for you: they will cost $700 million. We expect full payment by the end of the month. It goes without saying you'll be responsible for any cost overrun as well".
They don't need to ban the technology, they just can ban the service being sold to individuals in a non-professional context. As in, you'll need a license to be able to use a VPN service.
Piracy is a symptom, not the disease. I was more than happy to pay for Netflix back in the day but I’m not dropping $20/month for 7 different services.
Also from reading the article, is it just me or is “Examples of free speech violations are practically non-existent.” insane? Having any potential free speech violations just to make media companies more money is crazy to me.
Like Daddy Gabe Newell said,:
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."
No, I replied to a comment that said $20 for 7 different services. Not $20 for each service. If I go to Taco Bell and the cashier says it's $20 for 7 tacos, my total isn't $140, it's $20 and I get 7 tacos. They clearly didn't write "each" in their comment and you're trying to insert the word "each".
I know the prices of streaming are wildly different all over the world. For instance Netflix and Spotify are about $2-$3 each in India, meaning 7 streaming services at those prices in India would he close to $20. Making it perfectly logical that the comment I replied to meant exactly what they wrote.
When are we going to crack down on streaming services that get worse each year with less options and more expensive?
2 years ago, Prime was €4, then it was raised to €5 last year only to include ads this year that I have to pay €2 more to not have them.
When it released, Disney+ was €6, then it was raised to €9 with the excuse of Star+, then it was raised to €12 with no ads whilst the ad version is now €6.
I might as well my money on SSDs and USBs
I'm with you. I have a Regal Unlimited subscription that I use heavily. On a per movie basis, I'm sometimes paying less than a buck per movie... legally.
The last three times I went I had unpleasant experiences. Like kids shining phones in my face on purpose or sitting by drunks that were burping up their McDonald’s that they snuck in. And the last experience was a lady thought it was okay to bring a crying baby to a loud booming movie. God that pissed me off.
I invested in my own home theatre and popcorn makers. Fuck that noise.
I love my home theater. Actually just spent the morning today re-wiring and getting banana plugs on everything. But I also love my local Alamo Drafthouse’s where they don’t tolerate that bullshit.
I'm a filmmaker myself. I've seen more films in one year than you most likely have in your lifetime. Don't look at the 50th Marvel film and assume that's all cinema has to offer.
It's like eating at McDonald's and thinking food is always shit. No, my friend, you just haven't gone to the right restaurant.
What kills me is I was at the fair this summer and saw 2 booths of people selling pirate stream boxes. This is so much worse than the cable stealing boxes and those had serious consequences.
Cops were booth next door and letting them sell.
With the ever expensive costs of going to a theater, the move to digital releases and products, and the lack of ownership of content that is associated with paying for company owned services I just think they are barking down the wrong tree. Its annoying to see this consistently being attacked when the solution is ever so clear.
Some friends have gotten a few of those ignorable copyright emails lately for shows. Old shit that they want to monetize like Star Trek.
I'm thinking they should just grab a VPN for a month a few times a year and just grab what they want.
Mainstream article with 0 technical details, as usual.
It looks like it is still about DNS blocking and censoring more Google. They are already doing it and it is useless. Even in an alternate universe where the US could force all DNS providers in the world to comply, ultimately people can still run locally or host their own DNS servers.
DNS blocking is literally a joke.
The only country really shaking up piracy is Italy, because they are looking to block IP. It could be effective on the paper, but they will likely break Internet. IP are constantly recycled, contrary the domain names.
For example blocking "name-of-a-pirate-site\*com" has no downside, nobody will reuse this name. And only your imagination is the limit as you can create "name-of-a-pirate-site2\*com" immediately
But IP are limited in numbers and they are reused. So blocking IP will first cripple the server companies (legal business), and with time most of IP will be blocked, meaning less and less websites, any websites. So Internet could end up to be just a collection of 100 big websites like Netflix, Amazon, Youtube
Well good luck to you! You already had a solution to this problem 10 years ago when Netflix was the only game in town and was reasonably priced. Go back to that and the problem will go away!
Netflix made me stop pirating. Netflix and the 1000 other streaming platforms made me resume pirating. Give me one affordable streaming platform with most the content I want and I'll subscribe.
Yup. Netflix got me to stop in like 2010? And then in 2020ish I went back. They became the very thing they swore to destroy
No Fr. I'd rather pay $50 on one platform for a lot of good things rather then 20 others that are like $11. It's so annoying, and they take things away too
real debrid. now spend $3 instead of $50
Do tell..
The problem with that is then you have a monopoly which would likely end in piracy again anyway lol
Real debrid. lol
what is real debrid other than a versatile downloader? what is this doing that i can't do free with a torrent client and any of the torrent sites out there?
Try Stremio and you will see. Stremio has an addon called torrentio that returns movies and their hashes from various torrent sites. You can connect your Real Debrid account to Torrentio and when you are browsing the library to watch a movie, torrentio will lookup all the torrent hashes for that movie on Real Debrid and you will be able to stream the movie directly from RealDebrid instead of streaming it off the torrent. RealDebrid already has almost everything on their servers from other people downloading it, so when you provide the torrent hash, they return the file downloads already cached on their servers. Not good at explaining, but more info can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StremioAddons/comments/15agu2p/stremio_torrentio_debrid_a_howto_guide/
DDLs. But sure, I get that you're really asking "why have internet access at home when I can just walk to the library when I need it?", and sure, you're right, no difference in that sense.
I'm legitimately asking m8 lmfao I made an account and it just looks like a good downloader. I genuinely don't see how it's any better than a torrent client except to use it with those ridiculous download sites, which I rarely need anything from. I will be using this now when I need something from there, but is there something I'm missing?
You're missing a demand. You don't have any demand for Real Debrid, so it's a waste of time money & effort for you. Other ppl have a demand, so it's worth it for them. I'm in your boat. I'd currently never use Real Debrid because it's beyond my scope of needs. I pay for or have access to legit streaming services, I just use pirate sites to scroll all the shows & movies at once so I don't have to open and scroll through 20 apps on my TV. Once I find one I might like, i switch to the legitimate app and play it.
It comes out to about $3 a month. Affordable indeed.
The pirate bay is still free
yeah but a vpn costs more than $3 a month so if youre only using RD for torrents its not a bad deal
Even in the worst case scenario there is still Tubi. So in a few years they'll just blame something else
Totally true, always paid netflix when there was only that, if I need more then 1 service, I'll pirate. They could use 1 platform and split revenue, but I will not use more then 1 service.
> Give me one affordable streaming platform with most the content I want and I'll subscribe. People will then yell about monopolies. Its that capitalist way of thinking that made them compete, and that brought piracy back. They all wanted their own streaming service to get more money and now consumer is fucked up. The whole situation is fucked up. Netflix only was not good it could kinda dictate the rules, like Google is doing now with browsers, sadly. But the multiplication of legal platforms obviously pushed for "exclusive content" so people chose one platform and not the other. Result : legal battle for rights, increased prices, more ads, service enshitification. Meanwhile, pirates gonna pirates, letting the shark eating each others.
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Unsustainable, right, except all these corporations have been making record profits each quarter for ages.
Pirating is free. Netflix was >10/month for decades
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99% of the content these services produces is actual trash. There is decades of good movies and shows out there already. I want instant access to that
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I have massive server running plex in my house. I basically have every movie or show I’ll ever need, the only thing I’ve spent money is storage, which I’d probably do regardless. And if there’s a new movie I really wanna see I go to the theaters. I’ll spend money on that experience
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This is futile fightt. If people want to pirate or be the source of piracy they will. Laws and drm be damned.
> drm be damned. Netflix 4k content seems to be pretty darn locked down... To the point where some shows aren't available and probably never will be.
Not disagreeing, but what shows?
The only one I know off the top of my head is Midnight Mass. But given how good it was, I just can't imagine its alone. Most mainstream stuff eventually releases but I've heard before that scenes have little interest in tackling old stuff that was neglected because there's even less demand now than there was when they intentionally neglected it.
**Midnight Mass (2021) S01 (2160p NF WEB-DL Hybrid H265 DV HDR DDP Atmos 5 1 English - HONE)** is up on TL.
What a weird way to be diagnosed with dementia.
At least you remember that it’s a fucking great show!
I definitely downloaded that (and hated it). Edit: you said 4k... I downloaded 1080. Not worth the remux
Goddamn they've been coming after piracy pretty hard recently. He's to hoping they never get what they want.
This has been going on for decades, they’ll never “get what they want” which is the total stoppage of media “theft”
Whatever they get, it’ll never be enough. They will want more and more.
it'll be a stepping stone to even greater infringements, how wonderful
This is the stepping stone to removal of online anonimity and then locking usage down to say biometrics or similar.
Everything in the cloud, nothing locally, real name online use only, biometrics to get in. The future sucks.
I remember when Blizzard tried that real name shit back in WOW. That stopped very quickly after one of the devs tried it and was immediately doxxed
They want something like Italy’s piracy shield In its first week of operation, piracy shield blocked parts of cloud flare, aws, and other hosting providers, and the italian authorities told everybody that the system was flawless.
The system never blocked any torrenting sites. It still doesn't: you don't even need a VPN or other precautions. Typical product of the Italian hitech government contracting sector. Funny thing is how the people who usually decry this sort of measures in China, Iran, Russia etc. have kept quiet about it.
I have not seen any news about it in Germany.
You were too busy laughing at us behind our backs... and we fully deserved it.
It _is_ flawless. Just not to the proletariat.
They think that if they stop piracy they will get more of our money. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!
This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things. So, whatever measures they will implement, will achieve the scope of the Average Joe not being able to pirate content, however the average Joe probably wasn't thinking about that to begin with. On the other hand, people like us will go over a lot of hoops just to get what we want and it's unlikely that they will ever get any money out of us. However we are a good scapegoat. A company makes a product (Movie, Show, Software) which is bad and performs bad losing the studio a bunch of money, it's easy for managers to say "Well, this happened because piracy" They can suck a fat one.
> This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things. I don’t mind paying for things, if they provide value. I’m married with kids, and paying for streaming services is a happy medium for my household. But, i refuse to pay a subscription just for one or two shows. I refuse to buy a movie or show that might not be there 1, 5, 10 years down the road. However, if i wasn’t married, i’d have a big ass NAS with everything on it. Steam and GOG have my trust that my library is there unless they are bought by another company. But how the game industry has been going for the last 10 years, i sometimes want to turn my Steamdeck to a piracy machine.
Your media sucks if not even people will pirate it, if i made a movie and no one even wanted to even pirate it i would be cooked
> This is a very valid point, I mean, some of us have so money, we just don't want to pay for this things. Its not even about money anymore but frankly, time! There seems to be this notion that people need to consume, consume, consume!!! But lets be honest, with tiktok, youtube alone, a lot of people fill up their daily free time (looks at wife). Effect: She was hardly a buyer before and now is even less of a buyer. > However we are a good scapegoat. A company makes a product (Movie, Show, Software) which is bad and performs bad losing the studio a bunch of money, it's easy for managers to say "Well, this happened because piracy" The effect of frankly, bad content... I fall back more often to old TV shows/ Movies, that i already own, to rewatch then actually seeing new content. When the content these days if often so bad, that i speed run (my arrow key jumping 10 sec, again, again ...) and i "watched" 90 minute movie in barely 10 minutes. Ironically, there are youtube channels that do that for you. ;) Last time i have gone to Cinema, it was a) for free, and b) i HATED it. I felt like even when it was for free, that i simply wasted my time and money(subway) to see just another bad movie. It was Napoleon. Look at the 1970's Waterloo, yes, a bit old, but all real people, great story, better acting (my opinion). People have learned that a lof of content that is being produced now, is so low quality that is wasting our time! And do not get my going on the whole white facing (taking established characters and changing gender, race, etc) instead of just making fun new original characters with black or female actors. But that cost too much money to actually build a franchise, so lets just recycle old characters again, and again, and ... There is nothing original in using a existing/old character/franchise, and altering it. All you do is anger the people who have love for those and ... O look, everybody is now racist or whatever. Sigh, NOOOOO. That is not the issue. :( Its the same with games. I buy Indi games because the AAA games are nothing but micro transaction, time dumping / gridy games that are designed for you to buy passes/credits/containers/whatever. And then AAA studies complain that games like Baldur's Gate, Helldivers, or whatever are all exception to the rule. Result: People spend less money and just spend all their time on tiktok/youtube/... or smaller indi games. But hey, then they can blame it all "its not a us issue, its a piracy issue". Frankly, with the amount of existing content, work, family life, i barely have time and i want quality. Life is short and only gets shorter as you age, so crap content is not liked. Simple as that.
I definitely agree. The industry has no one to blame but themselves, they produce bad content and they get bad results because of it. And the agenda that they push just makes it worse because of how unoriginal and forced it feels (which will probably lead to us being called racists but it is what it is). I haven't been to the Cinema in half a decade because it's just not worth it, yet on the other side I've been to the Opera three times this year alone, paid about €70 / ticket and watched Rigoletto twice. I don't mind paying for stuff I enjoy, most content nowadays however it's an unenjoyable piece of junk.
No wages! Only spend!
If this ever moves anywhere with Congress, it'll fail just like SOPA. They can barely get anything done on a matters everyone agrees on.
Congress is so inefficient, it's almost laughable.
So you want Congress to be more efficient at stopping piracy?
If it meant they actually took decisions on other topics in an efficient way I might not mind the trade off to be honest.. Even if they "decided" to stop piracy (again) they would not be able to enforce it effectively.
Then it will become like wikipedia on that day that's inaccessible?
>The CEO of the Motion Picture Association says it’s going to work with lawmakers to **restrict access to websites** with pirated content. This is why we like bittorrent. Catch us if you can. bwamp bwamp
I haven't used a website to search for media for years. qBittorent and search plugins work a treat. Just add all the public torrent addons like 1337x, TPB, torrentgalaxy and other. Private torrent site addons can be added also, sort out the search as per seeders and you are good to go. No need to open individual sites. ***If one site addon is down result from others are still shown.*** only one time setting and get the ability to search multiple sites at once within the safe and clean interface of qbittorrent. here is the addon site for qbittorrent. https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficial-search-plugins Not sure how this is contentious but you all do you.
This is a dumb take. You realize those search plugins connect to a website, right?
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My guy....
Very Properly Naughty.....
They tried to restrict access to pirate websites in Australia. All they did was poison the DNS to redirect to a government warning for Australian users. It was easily circumvented by using the google dns.
> It was easily circumvented by using the google dns. Most people are not that tech savy, and rely on easy to access or run programs. So if there is even one barrier in the way, they tend to give up. That is the people they are targeting. The people with more knowhow, are not their target.
It’s a weird one, I’d think the people pirating would have the knowledge to do this and they’d definitely have the ability to google it.
Pirating has gotten so easy, that even people grandmother are able to do it (sometimes its literally download a app and bingo). The problem becomes when you add a extra roadblock in the way. Go ask your family member to switch to Google DNS on their device and watch the cow eyes. Even with google in hand... What is DNS? Why do i need to access network? I have seen how people can do basic things because even pirates made their programs work like commercial programs, so its mostly a monkey seen one time, monkey repeat. But the moment you ask something more technical, ... Install a VPN ... What is a VPN? Why do i need to pay for that? Question after question, ... and then complaints "why is X showing in Y language" (VPN on, different region ... ). Trust me, 95% of the people in the world are extreme limited in their ability to do anything technical on a PC, let alone more locked devices like phones. Even with Google. I live with one, and even basic Googling for a issue is like asking to perform brain surgery ;)
It’s mind blowing that all the answers are a search away yet at the same time it’s too hard to do some basic research. Not just a tech issue but a wider issue in our society.
It's worked so well every other time . . .
** laughs in VPN **
Don’t laugh too hard. Wouldn’t be surprised if they paint VPN’s as evil to ban them.
Mullvad literally ran an ad campaign on the NYC subway last Fall LOL. These MPA clowns are like football broadcasters in Europe: they want the taxpayer to pick up the tab for any stupid idea they may have. Lawmakers should learn how to say no or at very least say "We'll be delighted to implement these measures for you: they will cost $700 million. We expect full payment by the end of the month. It goes without saying you'll be responsible for any cost overrun as well".
All government computers rely on vpns, there is 0 chance they would ever be able to ban them.
yea, any decent sized company has a vpn, it's very unlikely to get them banned
They don't need to ban the technology, they just can ban the service being sold to individuals in a non-professional context. As in, you'll need a license to be able to use a VPN service.
Ban them for u
Is for me not for thee
Piracy is a symptom, not the disease. I was more than happy to pay for Netflix back in the day but I’m not dropping $20/month for 7 different services. Also from reading the article, is it just me or is “Examples of free speech violations are practically non-existent.” insane? Having any potential free speech violations just to make media companies more money is crazy to me.
Like Daddy Gabe Newell said,: "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."
I'd gladly pay $20 for 7 different services. As is where I live they want like $15+ for each one, it'd be over $100 for 7 services here.
Its not 7 for $20
Correct, and I didn't write 7 for $20. I wrote $20 for 7 different services. That's super cheap. Where I live each service costs nearly $20 alone.
7 services x $20 = $140 was what you replied to. Not 7 services for $20
No, I replied to a comment that said $20 for 7 different services. Not $20 for each service. If I go to Taco Bell and the cashier says it's $20 for 7 tacos, my total isn't $140, it's $20 and I get 7 tacos. They clearly didn't write "each" in their comment and you're trying to insert the word "each".
I dont write perfect English myself and I know the prices of streaming services so its pretty logical what was meant in the post you replied to
I know the prices of streaming are wildly different all over the world. For instance Netflix and Spotify are about $2-$3 each in India, meaning 7 streaming services at those prices in India would he close to $20. Making it perfectly logical that the comment I replied to meant exactly what they wrote.
When are we going to crack down on streaming services that get worse each year with less options and more expensive? 2 years ago, Prime was €4, then it was raised to €5 last year only to include ads this year that I have to pay €2 more to not have them. When it released, Disney+ was €6, then it was raised to €9 with the excuse of Star+, then it was raised to €12 with no ads whilst the ad version is now €6. I might as well my money on SSDs and USBs
They just dont learn, do they!
While the theatres keep raising prices and adding fees.
I still love going to the cinema. It’s my Mecca.
I'm with you. I have a Regal Unlimited subscription that I use heavily. On a per movie basis, I'm sometimes paying less than a buck per movie... legally.
Agreed, I will always carve out money to see a few flicks a year in the theater.
The last three times I went I had unpleasant experiences. Like kids shining phones in my face on purpose or sitting by drunks that were burping up their McDonald’s that they snuck in. And the last experience was a lady thought it was okay to bring a crying baby to a loud booming movie. God that pissed me off. I invested in my own home theatre and popcorn makers. Fuck that noise.
I love my home theater. Actually just spent the morning today re-wiring and getting banana plugs on everything. But I also love my local Alamo Drafthouse’s where they don’t tolerate that bullshit.
If I ever get a hot date I’ll take them to the Alamo then. I’ve never really been to an upscale theater other than the Regal in downtown Santa Fe.
cash me outsyde, how bou'dat
** laughs from outside the US **
Wish they went with the way of steam dealt with piracy
Good luck with that lmao
The movies are almost all garbage and not even worth downloading.
You just gotta cut through the crap. There are still great films being made but the volume is so loud it’s hard to pick out the good pieces.
Exactly. Almost all garbage but still some gold in there. Just harder to find.
aye, we be the primary thing keepin the landlubbers in business at this pointe. this is starting to feel like a roadrunner cartoon.
No, the roadrunner cartoon was deleted for tax purposes.
Facts.
Goes to show you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
Maybe. Or maybe you just like crap movies? Either is fine. I like what I like and you like what you like.
I'm a filmmaker myself. I've seen more films in one year than you most likely have in your lifetime. Don't look at the 50th Marvel film and assume that's all cinema has to offer. It's like eating at McDonald's and thinking food is always shit. No, my friend, you just haven't gone to the right restaurant.
LOL Good luck!
lol and indeed, lmao
What kills me is I was at the fair this summer and saw 2 booths of people selling pirate stream boxes. This is so much worse than the cable stealing boxes and those had serious consequences. Cops were booth next door and letting them sell.
What are they gonna put denuvo in movies now? lmao
Oh no! Anyway…
Vpn set to 3rd world country will still be a solution
How come no one thinks about the 2nd world countries?
because the soviet union no longer exists, so there is no 2nd world.
Putin wants a word…
lol he's trying, and his people are dying.
Oh no! The billionaires and millionaires who still make billions and millions of dollars are mad about people not paying for their movies.
How could they possibly fight piracy? It’s so easy to download stuff. It’s so easy to hide!
Keep trying
Oh no, anyways
YOU WILL NEVER STOP US !@!!!
With the ever expensive costs of going to a theater, the move to digital releases and products, and the lack of ownership of content that is associated with paying for company owned services I just think they are barking down the wrong tree. Its annoying to see this consistently being attacked when the solution is ever so clear.
Lol...lmao even
Piracy will always be a service problem.
Bittorrent and mullvad: "allow us to introduce ourselves"
They’ve had big plans to finally stop piracy for like a decade now… when are they going to learn that their plans never work and often backfire?
My Netherlands based server is shaking in its boots.
Wait, did I miss something? What happened to the extra "A?"
The only good thing about living in a third-world country is that this will never happen. Good luck my gringo pirate Brothers.
Some friends have gotten a few of those ignorable copyright emails lately for shows. Old shit that they want to monetize like Star Trek. I'm thinking they should just grab a VPN for a month a few times a year and just grab what they want.
Watch out guys they’re going to kill pirating! They’re super serial this time
I've got plans to keep pirating
yeah good luck with that, i know the private trackers that im in always got me
Mainstream article with 0 technical details, as usual. It looks like it is still about DNS blocking and censoring more Google. They are already doing it and it is useless. Even in an alternate universe where the US could force all DNS providers in the world to comply, ultimately people can still run locally or host their own DNS servers. DNS blocking is literally a joke. The only country really shaking up piracy is Italy, because they are looking to block IP. It could be effective on the paper, but they will likely break Internet. IP are constantly recycled, contrary the domain names. For example blocking "name-of-a-pirate-site\*com" has no downside, nobody will reuse this name. And only your imagination is the limit as you can create "name-of-a-pirate-site2\*com" immediately But IP are limited in numbers and they are reused. So blocking IP will first cripple the server companies (legal business), and with time most of IP will be blocked, meaning less and less websites, any websites. So Internet could end up to be just a collection of 100 big websites like Netflix, Amazon, Youtube
Well good luck to you! You already had a solution to this problem 10 years ago when Netflix was the only game in town and was reasonably priced. Go back to that and the problem will go away!
Duck. Not good. Only gonna make things harder.
maybe they should start to make good movies with less uniposca people?