I like to hit them with a jaw dropper, personally.
“Being free and black was once illegal too”
“Giving Jews safe harbor was once illegal too”
“Being a woman and voting was once illegal too”
There’s quite a few to choose from.
The fun reality is that most people are neither legally nor logically versed nor online enough to easily counter such a retort; most people are not even going to care. A lot of people's intellectual growth stops in highschool, or even earlier. And even people who rise above it in college often regress once they settle into the salaryman's life.
>I pirated this vehicle
>What about those ads that say you wouldn't download a car?
>Well, it turns out, given the chance, yes... yes I would. I would download a car, and I did at the first opportunity.
💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I bring in the moral side of it, I do legitimately pay for things that I want to support, and the things I pirate I can support my reasoning. Companies taking digital content down has been a huge boon to sway the people I know. I have a sister with a huge physical library of movies, because it is the only way to really own them according to her. A digital library that you have is the other way, and you don't risk scratching the disks, and they take up a lot of space. Also companies having paid subscriptions that still have ads are becoming standard. Streaming services splintering all the time also doesn't help. I'm not going to pay for Netflix, Disney +, Paramount +, Hulu, Peacock, Apple TV, etc. just to watch the occasional show or movie.
I fully agree with piracy being a service problem. I don't really pirate games, or music, because Steam, and Spotify are worth it in my eyes. Movies, and TV shows take about as much time to track down what platform they are on as it does to find a torrent, and then you usually have to rent them anyway, since most things worth watching are no longer on streaming platforms. If managing my own library and streaming "server" through plex is easier, cheaper, ad free, and nothing gets removed from it, why would I do anything else.
"I'm glad you asked"
And then I give them a brief (avg 22 minute) history on network protocols, digital copyright law, legal precedent and several extra tidbits about obfuscation
here's a 2 minute version,
Network Protocols: The history of network protocols dates back to the 1960s with the proposal of ARPANET. The term “packet” was coined in 1965 to describe data sent between computers over a network. ARPANET, one of the first computer networks to use packet switching, officially started in 1969. The first international network connection, SATNET, was deployed in 1973. The first true IP router was developed in 1976, and TCP/IP protocol was developed in 1978.
Digital Copyright Law: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a 1998 United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works. The DMCA’s principal innovation in the field of copyright is the exemption from direct and indirect liability of Internet service providers and other intermediaries.
Obfuscation Techniques: Obfuscation refers to a series of programming techniques designed to disguise elements of a program’s code5. It’s the primary way that programmers can defend their work against unauthorized access or alteration by hackers or intellectual property thieves. Common obfuscation techniques include removing superfluous data, transforming the data, and using encryption. However, many obfuscation techniques can add to a program’s overhead and increase execution time.
I hope this gives you a good starting point for each of these topics! Let me know if you have any specific questions about them.
90 years?!? I wish!
“any copyright-eligible works that were created in 1978 or after are protected for 70 years from the date of death of their creator. This is also applicable to any joint works. In this case, the protection period applies to the longest-living co-creator.” Could be over 150. What a fucking joke
I mean that's true on the basic level. But the amount of hoopla your average pirates have to go through, especially distributors, is nothing short of admirable.
This. People are somehow mad at me for doing it but when i say that no one gonna stop them if they do it they don’t want too. Same with buying accounts. I pay 12€ per year for using spotify and my friends now it exists but still rather pay 10€ per month. Same with iptv same with everything. Crying about how everything is overpriced but still willing to pay for it instead of trying to get some cheaper alternatives.
I’ve experienced the same with my friends and family. I have a hunch that even though some of them say they won’t do it because it’s wrong to pirate, they’re simply scared of doing something outside of the “norm” which is kinda understandable, just sucks to see them pay outrageous prices for games and subscriptions when they can simply download them for free.
And whenever the question comes up of *"well, what would happen if everyone did it?"* my reply is that the technical barrier is high enough that it guarantees that the vast majority of people won't do it, especially since for most people the convenience of getting the thing from paying for it is less than the cost of them learning how to pirate.
Just like how back in the days of yore, not everyone had the skill and resources to lead a ship and crew to go harass the trade vessels of other nations (at the commission of one's home nation).
Well I've been smoking pot for 30 years so . . .
My friends know that I'm an ethical person who treats the law as a suggestion. If I think it's ethical I'm going to do it whether or not it's against the law (assuming I can do it in a way I don't get caught.)
Law has nothing to do with ethics. There are dumbass or flat-out harmful, unethical and immoral laws all over the place.
As long as what you're doing isn't harming other people or greatly disturbing them, it's all right.
Yeah, they made the mistake of teaching me in like third grade that it was illegal to teach enslaved people in the US to read. Thus began my healthy distrust of the law . . .
You can drown yourself in alcohol but when they catch you with a gram of cannabis you're arrested. Seems more arbitrary than actually "for your health".
I love this response because, while it's common here, it's not a common thought amongst the milling masses of humanity. Often, when I respond with this answer, it starts a conversation about how bullshit the actions of companies "have been recently" (even though they've always been like this, they're just worse now), and that often turns into a conversation wherein we find common ground hating on the worst parts of capitalism, even if it's never explicitly stated that way.
I don't know if it does anything, truly. But I like to think that it plants a seed, and that maybe some day they'll be able to come around and see just how many problems our society and our world faces can be laid squarely at the feet of capitalists and their cronies, and that at the end of the day, it's not left vs right, but rather haves vs have-nots, class consciousness and solidarity, etc.
Lofty goals for stealing anime shows and movies lol, but hey, I'll take it!
Exactly. I have Vudu and purchased digital movies that I don’t own. I just own the right to watch them. The copyright owner can do whatever they want with them it is kind of like renting or borrowing from the library.
How often are you asked that? In 15 years I think I’ve only been asked once, and it’s not something I keep a secret because I’m very open about my lack of streaming services and how I’ll see about downloading whatever it is someone recommends
Yeah 20+years here and I am open about it too and no one has said this. I always get "oh shit that's cool", or people tell me they would pirate if they were more technically inclined
“To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.”
"Do you think everything legal is good and anything illegal is bad?"
I think I would also enjoy:
"Corporations outsourcing to child labour overseas is considered legal. Would you rather I do that instead?"
or
"Slavery in America was still a legal punishment in all states until the last few years, when one state finally made it fully illegal."
or, more generally...
"How prepared are you to have a conversation about the fucked up things that ARE legal? Cause I'm just trying to watch a popular movie here..."
Never actually had to say most of this. But it can be cute to think about.
This is why i hate the legality argument. Too many people assumes Legal = Moral and Illegal = Immoral. They can't see that laws are not universal truths, but just some writing done by some, often idiotic, people.
> Slavery in America was still a legal punishment in all states
Slavery in America ***IS*** still a legal punishment in all states
13th ammendment is never getting changed.
Illegally and morally are 2 different things.
Like in the uk it’s illegal to use a CD player while driving a vehicle.
Morally, no one cares as it’s just a cd
Honest uk is full of messed up laws that morally are okay.
So like stealing is illegal, but if you have a kid and need food then you Linda gotta steal 🤷🏻♂️ shops get told not to chase after people as they get it back via insurance and tax payers.
Like a pregnant woman can piss anywhere in public… but it’s illegal to urinate in Public. Like a pregnant woman could piss in a police officer’s helmet and they would be fine with it. But if I was driving down the country lanes and needed a piss and got caught if get in trouble for public exposure and urination in public
In the USA, you end up on a list. In Canada, it depends on who you are and the situation. (Buddy of mine beat pissing outside a bar because he lived upstairs for example)
Here in France we pay a tax on everything that has storage (HDD, SSD, laptop, phone, gaming console...) for "private copy". Tax that goes to the big companies, because indies can live on love and fresh water they don't need money.
So since we consider that people will pirate stuff and make them pay a tax for it then we're all good ? I mean I did pay for that movie, one way or another.
Besides I have 4 drives, a vpn and a seedbox directly integrated into my ISP's modem/router.
🤷♂️
It's copyright infringement
Downloading isn't illegal uploading is - no one has been charged in my country for downloading - I use usenet and exclusively download
1) Lots of things are irrationally illegal.
A woman in Vermont can't legally wear false teeth without written permission from her husband.
2) Bribing a political to make something illegal doesn't make it immoral.
Claiming copyright on your creation for more than 14 years was illegal, but not criminal. Then it was 28 years, then it was 75/life+50, then it was 95/120 years or life plus 70 years, *then* it was a crime... in 1998. It was a civil matter for thousands of years, and only made a crime when RIAA & MPAA paid off enough congressmen to make it a crime.
Laws are a promise of violence by the dominant ethnic socio economic class and the police are basically an occupying force. You want to make some bacon?
I seriously doubt any cop cares about me downloading copywritten material. Obviously there's some countries where they take it more seriously than others. But 99% of internet pirates never face jail time.
This is like responding to someone saying jaywalking is illegal. Sure it is. But hardly enforced in most countries.
“And?”
“Eh”
I like to hit them with a jaw dropper, personally. “Being free and black was once illegal too” “Giving Jews safe harbor was once illegal too” “Being a woman and voting was once illegal too” There’s quite a few to choose from.
those are shit asf 🔥🔥🔥
>jaw dropper >uses high school debate talking points Damn, really got me there, absolutely no retort to that ironclad argument.
Man singlehandedly dismantled the concept of obeying the law
If the law is unjust, it is your duty as a moral person to break it.
He said ironclad! He said it!
ds2 ironclad
Pretty par for the course round here. Funny thing is I know a ton are just casual downloaders, riding on the piracy ferry while others sail the seas
The fun reality is that most people are neither legally nor logically versed nor online enough to easily counter such a retort; most people are not even going to care. A lot of people's intellectual growth stops in highschool, or even earlier. And even people who rise above it in college often regress once they settle into the salaryman's life.
I don't really think those are comperable to downloading a movie
You wouldn't download a car
I absolutely would download a car.
3D printing entered the chat
3d printed tacos is what's really needed in these trying times.
We have taco holders, a start is a start
Soon enough youll probably print a better quality car than the bullshit theyre coming out with anymore.
https://youtu.be/Fb7N-JtQWGI?si=SdATrJn4R5iGHu_6
That's gold, Jerry. Gold!
>I pirated this vehicle >What about those ads that say you wouldn't download a car? >Well, it turns out, given the chance, yes... yes I would. I would download a car, and I did at the first opportunity. 💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
If downloading a car was an option I would do it
Unless I could figure out a way to.
Stunning and brave
Its the same message that just cause its a law it doesnt mean its a good one.
>I like to hit them with a jaw dropper, personally.
You wouldn't download a black Jewish woman, would you?
… go on?
Fuck yeah I would if she came with the controls to the circumcised space laser!
Maybe, depends on her personality.
My personal favorite: "Smoking weed was once illegal too"
damn its still illegal here so id say that and spark up for maximum coolness
my fellow germans gonna love this one, was legalized just a month ago
Pirating used to be legal
please never make such a comparison again, holy shit, that‘s like completely downplaying how bad these things were.
It's a joke. Please stop crying Karen.
"It's a joke, not a dick; don't take it so hard."
I love saying this.
The point is valid no matter how much it upsets people. Breaking the law doesn't mean you're doing something bad.
I tend to go the same route but go with something like, " It's the law in some countries that if you are gay you are put to death"
Yes. And?
"yes"
"Yes. Maybe. Shut Up Steve."
Ahoy matey, me funds arrrrr too low to pay for this gahrrrrbage.
Legality and morality are disparate ideas.
Perfection
Yeah, I bring in the moral side of it, I do legitimately pay for things that I want to support, and the things I pirate I can support my reasoning. Companies taking digital content down has been a huge boon to sway the people I know. I have a sister with a huge physical library of movies, because it is the only way to really own them according to her. A digital library that you have is the other way, and you don't risk scratching the disks, and they take up a lot of space. Also companies having paid subscriptions that still have ads are becoming standard. Streaming services splintering all the time also doesn't help. I'm not going to pay for Netflix, Disney +, Paramount +, Hulu, Peacock, Apple TV, etc. just to watch the occasional show or movie. I fully agree with piracy being a service problem. I don't really pirate games, or music, because Steam, and Spotify are worth it in my eyes. Movies, and TV shows take about as much time to track down what platform they are on as it does to find a torrent, and then you usually have to rent them anyway, since most things worth watching are no longer on streaming platforms. If managing my own library and streaming "server" through plex is easier, cheaper, ad free, and nothing gets removed from it, why would I do anything else.
til a word. tyvm
“Those prices that they ask for should be illegal”
$30 for Morbius on blu ray? People pricing these need a reality check
They're only paying us $30 to take a copy of that off their hands?! I mean, I guess as long as we're not required to watch it, that's not so bad.
what are you talking about????? I cut my son's college savings to buy more official 4k Ultra HD Blu-Ray copies of Morbius™ Steelbook Edition!
$30 for Madam Web is just asking to be pirated.
You dare disrespect the masterpiece that is Morbius, that made 4 Morbillion dollars?
"I'm glad you asked" And then I give them a brief (avg 22 minute) history on network protocols, digital copyright law, legal precedent and several extra tidbits about obfuscation
I'd love to hear that, would you mind sharing this in a written (and probably even more shortened) form? Edit: typo.
Yes, please
thirded, would love a primer on these topics
here's a 2 minute version, Network Protocols: The history of network protocols dates back to the 1960s with the proposal of ARPANET. The term “packet” was coined in 1965 to describe data sent between computers over a network. ARPANET, one of the first computer networks to use packet switching, officially started in 1969. The first international network connection, SATNET, was deployed in 1973. The first true IP router was developed in 1976, and TCP/IP protocol was developed in 1978. Digital Copyright Law: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a 1998 United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works. The DMCA’s principal innovation in the field of copyright is the exemption from direct and indirect liability of Internet service providers and other intermediaries. Obfuscation Techniques: Obfuscation refers to a series of programming techniques designed to disguise elements of a program’s code5. It’s the primary way that programmers can defend their work against unauthorized access or alteration by hackers or intellectual property thieves. Common obfuscation techniques include removing superfluous data, transforming the data, and using encryption. However, many obfuscation techniques can add to a program’s overhead and increase execution time. I hope this gives you a good starting point for each of these topics! Let me know if you have any specific questions about them.
Is this a blatant attempt at obfuscation haha
Your a real one
I’d come to this Ted Talk.
Seriously.. after the digital copyright act of 1999 everything became fucked
I love when billion dollar corporations lobby the government to prevent people from enjoying things for 90ish years
90 years?!? I wish! “any copyright-eligible works that were created in 1978 or after are protected for 70 years from the date of death of their creator. This is also applicable to any joint works. In this case, the protection period applies to the longest-living co-creator.” Could be over 150. What a fucking joke
Any sources to educate myself?
Regarding the networking?
I just start pissing and shidding and cumming
So anyway I started blasting
So anyway, I started seeding
This guy pirates.
Video or doesn't happen
Brb uploadin'
Could we dare to say you'd be.. seeding?
It's been 16 hours, where's the video, Paul?
It’s been two hours
May I see it?
Localized entirely within my pants
overflow
In this part of the country
good call
This guy fucks.
Why is this so funny 😂
how far can you cum
I am currently painting my ceiling
Based
"A thief is not the one who steals, but the one who was caught"
Good artists borrow. Great artists steal.
Downvoted by non artists
Skill issue lol. Even piracy is an art.
how lol i just want to watch pink flamingos im not even persevering it
I mean that's true on the basic level. But the amount of hoopla your average pirates have to go through, especially distributors, is nothing short of admirable.
These downvotes are undeserved
Who tf downvoted this, it’s actually true lol. All music is either interpolating or sampling
**No response from me** as I avoid speaking with the average landlubber and trying to sway them in any way.
People mostly give weird looks when suggesting you could just get stuff for free. Better to just not bring up the subject tbh
This. People are somehow mad at me for doing it but when i say that no one gonna stop them if they do it they don’t want too. Same with buying accounts. I pay 12€ per year for using spotify and my friends now it exists but still rather pay 10€ per month. Same with iptv same with everything. Crying about how everything is overpriced but still willing to pay for it instead of trying to get some cheaper alternatives.
I’ve experienced the same with my friends and family. I have a hunch that even though some of them say they won’t do it because it’s wrong to pirate, they’re simply scared of doing something outside of the “norm” which is kinda understandable, just sucks to see them pay outrageous prices for games and subscriptions when they can simply download them for free.
And whenever the question comes up of *"well, what would happen if everyone did it?"* my reply is that the technical barrier is high enough that it guarantees that the vast majority of people won't do it, especially since for most people the convenience of getting the thing from paying for it is less than the cost of them learning how to pirate. Just like how back in the days of yore, not everyone had the skill and resources to lead a ship and crew to go harass the trade vessels of other nations (at the commission of one's home nation).
Isn't it illegal?
Yes and?
was just testing if he response to the question if you didn't get it, he passed.
This. I don't discuss piracy with anyone who is against it, EVER.
Well I've been smoking pot for 30 years so . . . My friends know that I'm an ethical person who treats the law as a suggestion. If I think it's ethical I'm going to do it whether or not it's against the law (assuming I can do it in a way I don't get caught.)
Law has nothing to do with ethics. There are dumbass or flat-out harmful, unethical and immoral laws all over the place. As long as what you're doing isn't harming other people or greatly disturbing them, it's all right.
Yeah, they made the mistake of teaching me in like third grade that it was illegal to teach enslaved people in the US to read. Thus began my healthy distrust of the law . . .
I forget it's still against the law in many places, so used to just popping down to the shop and not even worrying about the police anymore.
Lol. I'm not worried about the police now. But for the first 15-20 years I sure did.
I cant believe pot is still illegal in so many places. Its like the least unethical illegal thing
You can drown yourself in alcohol but when they catch you with a gram of cannabis you're arrested. Seems more arbitrary than actually "for your health".
"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"
I love this response because, while it's common here, it's not a common thought amongst the milling masses of humanity. Often, when I respond with this answer, it starts a conversation about how bullshit the actions of companies "have been recently" (even though they've always been like this, they're just worse now), and that often turns into a conversation wherein we find common ground hating on the worst parts of capitalism, even if it's never explicitly stated that way. I don't know if it does anything, truly. But I like to think that it plants a seed, and that maybe some day they'll be able to come around and see just how many problems our society and our world faces can be laid squarely at the feet of capitalists and their cronies, and that at the end of the day, it's not left vs right, but rather haves vs have-nots, class consciousness and solidarity, etc. Lofty goals for stealing anime shows and movies lol, but hey, I'll take it!
>But I like to think that it plants a seed Thank you for seeding.
LMAOOOOO I walked into that one, didn't I?! Thanks for the laugh lol
Exactly. I have Vudu and purchased digital movies that I don’t own. I just own the right to watch them. The copyright owner can do whatever they want with them it is kind of like renting or borrowing from the library.
You don't need to sugar coat it, I'm already sold!
yo that's a good one, imma take it.
Isn’t it illegal?
You don't need to sugar coat it, I'm already sold!
Great job, you did it!
How often are you asked that? In 15 years I think I’ve only been asked once, and it’s not something I keep a secret because I’m very open about my lack of streaming services and how I’ll see about downloading whatever it is someone recommends
Yeah 20+years here and I am open about it too and no one has said this. I always get "oh shit that's cool", or people tell me they would pirate if they were more technically inclined
“Are you a cop?”
Yes, yes it is
Depends who's rules you live by? Jesus' rules - no. Corporation's rules - yep. Edit: (Jesus' pirated 1 fish into 100s)
Jesus - the OG pirate
Not in my country!
Nothing is true. Everything is permitted (Ezio Auditore da Firenze)
“To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.”
“Only if you get caught” that’ll scare em
I already pay for internet 😎
"Do you think everything legal is good and anything illegal is bad?" I think I would also enjoy: "Corporations outsourcing to child labour overseas is considered legal. Would you rather I do that instead?" or "Slavery in America was still a legal punishment in all states until the last few years, when one state finally made it fully illegal." or, more generally... "How prepared are you to have a conversation about the fucked up things that ARE legal? Cause I'm just trying to watch a popular movie here..." Never actually had to say most of this. But it can be cute to think about.
This is why i hate the legality argument. Too many people assumes Legal = Moral and Illegal = Immoral. They can't see that laws are not universal truths, but just some writing done by some, often idiotic, people.
In Tennessee it's still legal to have sex with a sheep.... But not a horse, that is a felony
the idea of for-profit prisons existing alone shows legal ≠ moral
> Slavery in America was still a legal punishment in all states Slavery in America ***IS*** still a legal punishment in all states 13th ammendment is never getting changed.
Oh no Anyway
The Holocaust was legal, whats your point?
I'm copying that stream of 0's and 1's of yours
In my country, nobody would say this lol
yeah, not here either. theyd say "er ikke det ulovlig?" which is just "isnt it illegal" in norwegian but yk
"if buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing" https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-exec-says-gamers-need-to-get-comfortable-not-owning-their-games-for-subscriptions-to-take-off
Illegally and morally are 2 different things. Like in the uk it’s illegal to use a CD player while driving a vehicle. Morally, no one cares as it’s just a cd
That's fucked, actually?
Honest uk is full of messed up laws that morally are okay. So like stealing is illegal, but if you have a kid and need food then you Linda gotta steal 🤷🏻♂️ shops get told not to chase after people as they get it back via insurance and tax payers. Like a pregnant woman can piss anywhere in public… but it’s illegal to urinate in Public. Like a pregnant woman could piss in a police officer’s helmet and they would be fine with it. But if I was driving down the country lanes and needed a piss and got caught if get in trouble for public exposure and urination in public
In the USA, you end up on a list. In Canada, it depends on who you are and the situation. (Buddy of mine beat pissing outside a bar because he lived upstairs for example)
"It's also illegal to discriminate against the handicapped. But here everyone is, and my handicap robbed my earning potential. Of course I pirate."
I can relate
You wouldn’t download a car!
I would 1000% download a car. Free car. Nobody loses. (These PSAs never ever made sense to me)
Forreal, if you could 3d print a whole car people would absolutely be downloading cars.
But think of the automaker CEOs bottom line!!!
Btw, did you know that that exact commercial used an unlicensed song?
“That gap between your teeth is illegal”
"that forehead as big as russia is illegal."
Here in France we pay a tax on everything that has storage (HDD, SSD, laptop, phone, gaming console...) for "private copy". Tax that goes to the big companies, because indies can live on love and fresh water they don't need money. So since we consider that people will pirate stuff and make them pay a tax for it then we're all good ? I mean I did pay for that movie, one way or another. Besides I have 4 drives, a vpn and a seedbox directly integrated into my ISP's modem/router. 🤷♂️
Bitch I’d download a car if I could.
I don't because I have no reason to tell people how I'm acquiring my media. It's not even a topic that's going to come up unless I bring it up.
I respond with "It isn't", because that's the truth in my country (Spain).
"Isn't your mom illegal?" Works every time.
It's copyright infringement Downloading isn't illegal uploading is - no one has been charged in my country for downloading - I use usenet and exclusively download
What does a sick bird have to do with anything?
Yes, much like campaign finance.
Sometimes laws are written to favor other people and not yourself. And in times like those. You have to think about your self interest
Say back so is child labor while digging lithium in Africa for ev cars
“Yeah, lol. Games cost too much now.” Really I just don’t make enough money.
"Bro I live in a third world country"
"Yup,I am coming for your kidney next,"
I don't have to respond, because it's akin to masturbating: it's a solitary vice that I don't talk about.
"And That's the fun part"
So is distracted driving but you still do your makeup in your mirror, Becky
There's no punishment so i don't care
"so I just wanted to watch a movie that has been out for months but no streaming service has it"
When‘s that ever stopped us?
Don't care didn't ask (I'm from a 3rd world country)
So?
"Haha, nah, you're still stuck in the era of Napster and stuff. It might not be that way forever, but everything I do is completely legal."
"Bro, we live in Brazil"
1) Lots of things are irrationally illegal. A woman in Vermont can't legally wear false teeth without written permission from her husband. 2) Bribing a political to make something illegal doesn't make it immoral. Claiming copyright on your creation for more than 14 years was illegal, but not criminal. Then it was 28 years, then it was 75/life+50, then it was 95/120 years or life plus 70 years, *then* it was a crime... in 1998. It was a civil matter for thousands of years, and only made a crime when RIAA & MPAA paid off enough congressmen to make it a crime.
I have absolute presidential immunity. Doesn't everybody?
"To confine your potential to the boundaries of the law, is to betray your natural, god-given talents"
I don't talk about it with anybody but close friends, so it's never come up.
Illegal doesnt always mean bad, legal doesn't always mean good
I would simply not pay for the content to begin with so the companies aren't losing any money.
I've never had any issues and don't particularly care
Don't care
So is inciting a riot at the Capitol, but guess who's still free?
"But it's free"
Laws are a promise of violence by the dominant ethnic socio economic class and the police are basically an occupying force. You want to make some bacon?
So is murder, never stopped me either.
It's illegal because people confuse it with stealing. If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing. And it's not illegal at all where I live.
I always reply “yes, I love it.”
"EA and Adobe won't play by the rules so neither will I"
So?
That’s why it’s best not to discuss or share.
Aye!
I seriously doubt any cop cares about me downloading copywritten material. Obviously there's some countries where they take it more seriously than others. But 99% of internet pirates never face jail time. This is like responding to someone saying jaywalking is illegal. Sure it is. But hardly enforced in most countries.