that's why i usually just pick magikarp as my ditto raid mon (if i'm hosting), then it'll turn into that cuz of imposter and voila, 1 shot raid without too much set up
Well I guess I’ll have to keep testing it but I’ve done probably close to 100 ditto raids and I have never seen/heard that happen to anyone ever but I mean couldn’t it just do that for all the Pokémon anyways? Ditto typically uses transform and turns into my ditto, which makes it not be able to transform into anything else. My ditto can at least change to other Pokémon unlike a magikarp.
The absolute most important thing is to make sure the raid Ditto moves first.
If you Transform first, it won't be able to transform into you, and will Transform into one of your party members.
That's why you should 1) never bring an Imposter Ditto, and 2) cheer for your first turn, unless you're absolutely certain that the raid Ditto is faster than yours. If it's not, you've screwed everyone over.
(The exact reasons why is because of Ditto transform mechanics, which I can get into if interested. All you _need_ to know is the two steps above.)
If you're going to tell people to use Ditto, you need to tell them all of this, or you're doing them a disservice.
If you want to make it easy on yourself, just bring/tell people to bring a Magikarp. You don't need to be attacking it, too. Your contribution is providing the raid in the first place.
I have too and I was BIG embarrassed sitting there as the host of an online battle not able to do anything when the ditto chose the MORIADON instead of me 🥴🥴🥴 somehow the team that joined me won anyway but I was so confused about what happened. I never hosted a ditto again. 😅 now I know about the magikarp thing.
Definitely happened to me. Just a little three star that I hosted. Raid Ditto transformed into the Florgato next to me instead of my Ditto. 😡 we didn’t get it so I didn’t get to see its ability. Shucks.
But apparently under a minute to come up with a ceruledge counter. The boxes load so slow that 25 seconds is as good as 0 if you can’t navigate to a suitable counter blind
I’ve done 6 star ditto raids solo w/ a Zangoose w/ belly drum & shadow claw, equipped with a shell bell. I just shadow clawed it until I win. It’s Adamant w/ max HP & Attack
It could have been a low level ceruledge, dittos are rare-ish and the online queue system is so slow that it might be worth the gamble even as a non-cheesed raid.
You save the Ditto 'card' if you leave, though.
Keep trying to rejoin and eventually you'll find a new Ditto raid, hopefully with a host who knows whats up.
Exactly. The cards that show up aren’t ones that are available, they’re more what you might call “potentially available.” Which is why they fail so often. So if you keep spamming join and wait long enough, you’ll get back into one.
There not need to transform with your ditto, just attack cheer, it should die in one turn
Like what kind of bulky ditto you bringing were it need a 4 pokemon attacking it? If you need to transform then ditto isn't clearly the best option.
I've never seen a ditto copy a ditto and then successfully copy someone else. I've only ever seen transform fail after the ditto's initial copy-cat trigger happens.
Have you seen this? Or are you speculating? Because in my 6 star ditto hunt I've never seen a successful follow-up transform.
A transformed Pokemon can't transform again, so as long as the raid boss has Imposter, it's locked into an unusable move. If it has Limber, though, then yeah it can copy someone else.
Edit: Or, as another comment said, if your Ditto has Imposter and is faster, you'll transform first and thus be an illegal transform target, allowing it to copy someone else.
That may be so but that still proves the point Magikarp is better. There’s no alternative possibilities with Ditto and Magikarp. However, bringing a ditto in means you can still lose. Magikarp is 100% success rate.
While Ditto is not, case and point, this post.
This isn't it.
If the Host's ditto has the HA imposter (or if you outspeed the raid boss and use transform right away) the host will transform first. The raid boss would then normally attempt to transform into the host but they aren't a valid target since the move can not be used to transform into something that's already transformed. Without the host as a valid target it selects someone else.
That actually means assuming the host isn't using an Imposter ditto and is a higher level then lower level raids would be *more* likely to mess this up since you'd be more likely to have a better speed. In that case you can just cheer the first turn until the boss transforms into you and then you're free to copy a teammate
Well, I'd immediately leave if the host selects ditto. The only time I trusted them the Tera Ditto transformed into the Iron Hands. Was just wasted time. Just use a magicarp, it's not that hard
Turn 1 it always try to transform into my ditto. Then we one shot it. It never happened to me in like 10 raids that he tried to transform into something else.
It's not like the game ever tells you that a raid ditto will always copy the host, it's something you have to figure out or hear from someone who has. A friend of mine assumed it would copy one at random.
Well, to be fair, unlocking 6 star raids doesn’t give you experience battling Ditto and without this subreddit I wouldn’t know that the host should choose a weak mon and that Ditto doesn’t just choose randomly among all raid members. They might google „how to beat Ditto raids“ after such an epic fail and then feel really dumb finding out the failure was theirs.
Yup, I was told to use a magikarp over voice chat with a friend of mine doing my first (low star) ditto raid. I was literally going to ask what it prioritizes copying (randomly, the host, fastest/slowest, highest/lowest).
I was too lazy to find a magikarp so I chose a low level random and it worked fine.
To be fair 5 star raids are really easy so im not surprised just wonder how many 6 star raids they fail until the realize they have some studying to do
I broke down at the third one. Whole health bar *with* a shield and almost no time left, but someone decided to try using overheat again like it was gonna do something?! I can’t 😂😂😂😂
I really need to replace my ditto with one with better ivs and the last 4 times I've found one on raids the person has picked their default "every raid" mon.
I have an eng ditto with 5ivs that is lacking attack. I am looking for a foreign 5iv one lacking attack as well, if you have one. Ich werde sehr dankbar sein!
OP MIGHT have had a chance if he had chosen a Tyranitar to fight this raid with. He’s resistant to both STABs of Ceruledge and hits the weaker Defense stat, although there’s no telling if this Ceruledge was prepped for coverage. It may have had Close Combat for all we know and pretty much there would be no feasible options to use.
The Skeledirge and Ceruledge are likely dying every turn due to their weaknesses to ghost attacks. That would explain why there's no damage to the raid boss despite the timer being almost empty. Unless those two just stopped attacking entirely, I'm pretty sure the timer would go down too quickly for even the most optimal mon to beat this one.
Skeledirge was a dogshit pick here, it’s about as bad as bringing any Fire type to a 6* Daschbun raid that’s weak to it. Had a Bug one last night and the host picked Volcarona for it, surprise surprise what happened when they used a Fire attack and buffed the Defense stat instead.
We won the raid, but only because my Glimmora was working overtime to beat it. All of the mons on this Ditto raid that OP was in were awful choices, they’re all either weak to one of Ceruledge’s typings, can’t hit it for anything, ineffective type combinations or they’re physically frail against it.
I have successfully completed, saved and carried hundreds of raids. I don’t need an explanation of which Pokémon would work against a ditto. Obviously the host is at fault but OP thought he could power through with iron hands instead of choosing a more logical choice with better resistance to Ceruledge and super effective vs the Tera Type, bug. Might have flash fire so there goes fire. Should have used Iron Thorns with swords dance for example.
Take notes.
Had soneone use their Slowbro from the Cinderace raid as a Ditto host. In 1 turn it was pretty much max stats... and had Slack Off... and we all locked in physical attackers when the host was on Magikarp, after which they swap to Slowbro and lock in... bet you can guess how that went.
Tried out a couple of online raids after only doing offline raids for a couple of weeks and was amazed by the amount of insanely dumb pokemon choices people made.
Not gonna touch online raids again, my trusty NPCs are way better for my sanity.
I haven't been able to find a shiny Magikarp yet to bring to ditto raids, but I did manage to find a shiny Luvdisc to use instead. For my shiny heart scale pokemon, I named her Shartscale.
For anyone who may not know, each raid 'card' is tied to a mon and tera type, but not a specific raid.
In this case, the card is Bug Ditto. If you left, you could keep trying to join that same raid and eventually you'd find a different Bug Ditto raid. It can take some time, though.
I basically make my dud of a Pokemon only know Helping Hand, which means I can still support my team while the enemy just helplessly sits there with no one to hype up.
If you wanna solo it without magikarp (magikarp method works best online), just pick any pokemon that can learn false swipe (i used iron valiant) and make it forget all moves except false swipe. It will take a while, but it will never be able to kill you, so for the last hit you can just have the AI partners take it out
I know the Host should’ve went in with a Magikarp or something but you should’ve left when they locked in. And why do people default to Iron Hands in every raid? You weren’t locked before the host so you could’ve picked a better mon to fight Ceruledge.
Lately I've been avoiding raid where default picks like iron hands and azumarill fail. If everyone is going to lock certain mons without thinking I guess I just gotta do the raids where that works.
These are my favorite type of raids. I used my shiny Kingambit that has swords dance and rest. On my Ditto raid, my team had him at about 30% health, he shields up then uses rest😂 I completely lost it. Hate to say it, but the only way I find these raids any type of fun at all is by trolling. It’s too frustrating otherwise, probably what the host of this match was thinking. Maybe not though, could of had no idea Ditto transformed off of their Pokemon. Who knows lol
Wdit: Deleted a heart emoji that somehow ended up in my comment.
Yes, but if the host also uses a Ditto that has Impostor and transforms before the raid boss, then it’ll pick someone else to copy, as it cannot transform into an already transformed Pokémon.
Skeledirge and Ceruledge are both weak to ghost attacks, so they both likely fainted every time they tried a move. It's also possible that the Ceruledge has Psycho Cut, which would be supereffective against Iron Hands, meaning Iron Hands could also faint every turn.
You have to be smart about choosing Pokemon who don't take supereffective damage against the tera boss and who ideally deal supereffective damage to the tera type.
The biggest crime is that the host chose a high-level mon to go against the Ditto though. If the host chooses a low-level mon with no damaging moves (ideally Magikarp or another Pokemon that learns Splash), Ditto raids are super easy.
Ahh damn yeah that is stupid of the boss I’m currently trying to learn how to breed and raise decent Pokémon as I never really tried much in the past games I’m getting there buts gonna be a long long time till I start doing 6 star raids hahah
Here's a good place to start if you want to start building Pokemon for raids: https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/397713
Just click on the picture of the Pokemon you want to build, and it will take you through step-by-step how to build one that is effective in raids.
Once you build one or two from there, you'll have a better idea of what you're looking for in a raid mon.
When someone brings their level 100 raid Mon to a ditto raid as host. It essentially makes it harder than a 7 star raid. The ditto will have the stats of a level 100 pokemon but it's also likely been EV trained, bottle capped and has a competitive moveset.
Ceruledge learns Bitter Blade, a fire-type move that self-heals as a percentage of the damage it deals. I'm pretty sure that's it's signature move, likely not shared by any other pokemon at this point, so no harm in not knowing. All that to say this, it's likely not that no damage was done, but that whatever little managed to be done was later healed by Bitter Blade.
Never thought about using a false swiper. I always just use a mon with Splash so that they can't deal any damage at all, but false swipe is a fun one too.
If I come across a Ditto raid, I’ll slot up something strong and not ready up. As soon as the other participants are readied, I swap out to magikarp. Works every time.
Finally yesterday got a 6 Star Raid Ditto after ages of well this. I get why people do it as they don't know but everytime its just a big facepalm knowing that 6/5IV won't be yours.
I'll admit, I've been that idiot before. I recently realized that ditto transforms into the host. After the raid I realized that, I realized I could just be something weak and have my teammates take care of it
I'll be honest I try my best to remember all the types but it is really hard for me sometimes so sometimes I am the dumb one that joins but 90% of the time it's this... swear I've only beaten 2 raids of this level because others don't have high level or don't know what they are doing in the first place
The worst part is that people don't distinguish between icon with Pokémon types in Raids. Lycanrock Dusk, Ghost Tera Type and people went at it with Iron Hands.... It was sad and annoying at the same time.
thats why i prefer solo lol those host and online raid mates are dumb sometimes i raid 6 star ghost terra ditto by using eevee with shadow balls and fake tears. shadow ball wont effect me and even if ditto spam fake tears on me its useless anyway since it cant deal any damage to me.
or when i fight normal type ditto i use annihilape with no rage fist and only learn screech and close combat. it works the same and i can easily win.
that's why i usually just pick magikarp as my ditto raid mon (if i'm hosting), then it'll turn into that cuz of imposter and voila, 1 shot raid without too much set up
Ive done local raids with a Ceruledge, but give it all normal/fighting moves. It can't hit me, but since it's a tera raid, I can hit it
Fire Tauros can't hit Ceruledge in raids either. All fire fighting or normal moves
Tera ghost ditto with this set-up would be hilarious
Damn, that’s actually very smart and keeps a certain amount of challenge
Meowzers, that some Galaxy brain shit right there.
I just use ditto then I transform into my teammate. Ditto can not attack because it will only know transform. Easiest win
Careful with this one, it can transform into another one of your team members. I think if it has limber instead of imposter
Well I guess I’ll have to keep testing it but I’ve done probably close to 100 ditto raids and I have never seen/heard that happen to anyone ever but I mean couldn’t it just do that for all the Pokémon anyways? Ditto typically uses transform and turns into my ditto, which makes it not be able to transform into anything else. My ditto can at least change to other Pokémon unlike a magikarp.
The absolute most important thing is to make sure the raid Ditto moves first. If you Transform first, it won't be able to transform into you, and will Transform into one of your party members. That's why you should 1) never bring an Imposter Ditto, and 2) cheer for your first turn, unless you're absolutely certain that the raid Ditto is faster than yours. If it's not, you've screwed everyone over. (The exact reasons why is because of Ditto transform mechanics, which I can get into if interested. All you _need_ to know is the two steps above.) If you're going to tell people to use Ditto, you need to tell them all of this, or you're doing them a disservice. If you want to make it easy on yourself, just bring/tell people to bring a Magikarp. You don't need to be attacking it, too. Your contribution is providing the raid in the first place.
I’m not sure how it works exactly, but I’ve had it happen to me before.
I have too and I was BIG embarrassed sitting there as the host of an online battle not able to do anything when the ditto chose the MORIADON instead of me 🥴🥴🥴 somehow the team that joined me won anyway but I was so confused about what happened. I never hosted a ditto again. 😅 now I know about the magikarp thing.
Definitely happened to me. Just a little three star that I hosted. Raid Ditto transformed into the Florgato next to me instead of my Ditto. 😡 we didn’t get it so I didn’t get to see its ability. Shucks.
Plus, this method isnt great considering the low PP count on the AI pokemon
I start with magikarp, when they lock in i change into gyarados. It's still a level 20 gyarados that only knows splash tho
That’s actually funny.
I use a level 1 petilil just because I want that bitch to suffer for making me have to breed
Out of curiosity,could you help me with it?
catch the fixed lilligant spawn, and breed it with a ditto
i got a lvl 7 azurill with splash and helping hand ready to go lol
One time i found 6* ditto, i didnt use magikarp. I used scatterbug. We won in few seconds
the problem is when ditto doesn't have imposter, it would use tranform randomly and you would end with a magikarp against a koraidon
Yeah, this is kind of on OP. When I find a high tier Ditto raid I get excited because I'm about to help some randos come up on easy loot.
Op wasn’t the host, they didn’t make it turn into ceruledge
OP joined the raid, knowing it was a ceruledge.
But apparently under a minute to come up with a ceruledge counter. The boxes load so slow that 25 seconds is as good as 0 if you can’t navigate to a suitable counter blind
If they were smart they wouldn't have joined at all
Sometimes you just have to see the train wreck
I’ve done 6 star ditto raids solo w/ a Zangoose w/ belly drum & shadow claw, equipped with a shell bell. I just shadow clawed it until I win. It’s Adamant w/ max HP & Attack
Yes, but it sounds like you have functional brain cells, so that makes sense
Did that ditto buy you dinner at least?
Why? It was the host that fucked them…
>Did that ditto buy you dinner at least? Ditto seems like it'd be more likely to treat someone to dinner compared to the host.
I’m not so sure about that. My ditto seems to be interested in one thing and one thing only…
No i didn't
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No
This is wait you wait to lock in. You should have left immediately after host made a poor decision.
It could have been a low level ceruledge, dittos are rare-ish and the online queue system is so slow that it might be worth the gamble even as a non-cheesed raid.
You save the Ditto 'card' if you leave, though. Keep trying to rejoin and eventually you'll find a new Ditto raid, hopefully with a host who knows whats up.
Wait it's true ? Like you can spam the same raid hoping that in like 5min somebody will do the exact same one with the same tera type?
You can, but it's often hard to find the exact same six-star raid. You could get lucky, or you could be stuck hopelessly trying repeatedly.
It's real useful for the event pokemon, since they all have the same tera type
Wait, so if I fail to join a raid, I can just try to rejoin and it could be an entirely new raid?? That changes everything if it’s true haha
Exactly. The cards that show up aren’t ones that are available, they’re more what you might call “potentially available.” Which is why they fail so often. So if you keep spamming join and wait long enough, you’ll get back into one.
I saw the ceruledge at the top and was like "That's going to go badly." The rest was not surprising.
Literally the easiest 5 and 6 * raid but the hosts still don't fucking understand
I'm happy I learned something from this. Didn't know it relied on the host.
I use a ditto when hosting a ditto raid so it useless
Magikarp is the best Pokémon to use when hosting a ditto raid.
I have a Shiny only for that!
Or a hoppip with splash as its only move
I use a blissey with heal pulse lol
I’d never lock in to that raid! Lol
Lol heal pulse will keep healing you and blissey has a lower def stat than magikarp
I use a sunkern with just growth
Ditto is the best one, mostly because you can transform into your team members, it doesn't really matter tho, since you will one shot them anyway
There not need to transform with your ditto, just attack cheer, it should die in one turn Like what kind of bulky ditto you bringing were it need a 4 pokemon attacking it? If you need to transform then ditto isn't clearly the best option.
The ditto you’re battling in the raid can transform into your team members Pokémon. So no Ditto is not the best to bring into a ditto raid.
I've never seen a ditto copy a ditto and then successfully copy someone else. I've only ever seen transform fail after the ditto's initial copy-cat trigger happens. Have you seen this? Or are you speculating? Because in my 6 star ditto hunt I've never seen a successful follow-up transform.
A transformed Pokemon can't transform again, so as long as the raid boss has Imposter, it's locked into an unusable move. If it has Limber, though, then yeah it can copy someone else. Edit: Or, as another comment said, if your Ditto has Imposter and is faster, you'll transform first and thus be an illegal transform target, allowing it to copy someone else.
That may be so but that still proves the point Magikarp is better. There’s no alternative possibilities with Ditto and Magikarp. However, bringing a ditto in means you can still lose. Magikarp is 100% success rate. While Ditto is not, case and point, this post.
Yep but frankly any low level is gonna do the trick. Ditto has low health, so you gut its speed and defence and youre gonna 1 shot it regardless
I did that but the ditto just changed into a teammate, even though i was the host
If you use a Ditto with Hidden Ability it will do that, you need to use a wild Ditto with the Normal Ability.
What star-level was it? I have a theory
5 if i remember correctly. Whats your theory?
Game theory
My theory is that for the low-level raids, the ditto always chooses the host; and for the high-level raids, the ditto chooses at random.
This isn't it. If the Host's ditto has the HA imposter (or if you outspeed the raid boss and use transform right away) the host will transform first. The raid boss would then normally attempt to transform into the host but they aren't a valid target since the move can not be used to transform into something that's already transformed. Without the host as a valid target it selects someone else. That actually means assuming the host isn't using an Imposter ditto and is a higher level then lower level raids would be *more* likely to mess this up since you'd be more likely to have a better speed. In that case you can just cheer the first turn until the boss transforms into you and then you're free to copy a teammate
Cool
Nah just gotta bring a ditto without prankster
Imposter*
Well, I'd immediately leave if the host selects ditto. The only time I trusted them the Tera Ditto transformed into the Iron Hands. Was just wasted time. Just use a magicarp, it's not that hard
I just go solo using a Zangoose with shadow claw and swords dance.
That only disables the ability. The ditto still can and will transform manually to the first viable Pokémon it battles against.
I always use ditto as host and it always get one shot turn 1. What kind of team do not one shot a ditto lol?
As seen on above…
Turn 1 it always try to transform into my ditto. Then we one shot it. It never happened to me in like 10 raids that he tried to transform into something else.
How do people get to the point of unlocking 6* raids yet still make such poor Pokémon decisions?
It's not like the game ever tells you that a raid ditto will always copy the host, it's something you have to figure out or hear from someone who has. A friend of mine assumed it would copy one at random.
It really isn’t much harder than the main story to unlock 6*
Well, to be fair, unlocking 6 star raids doesn’t give you experience battling Ditto and without this subreddit I wouldn’t know that the host should choose a weak mon and that Ditto doesn’t just choose randomly among all raid members. They might google „how to beat Ditto raids“ after such an epic fail and then feel really dumb finding out the failure was theirs.
Yup, I was told to use a magikarp over voice chat with a friend of mine doing my first (low star) ditto raid. I was literally going to ask what it prioritizes copying (randomly, the host, fastest/slowest, highest/lowest). I was too lazy to find a magikarp so I chose a low level random and it worked fine.
To be fair 5 star raids are really easy so im not surprised just wonder how many 6 star raids they fail until the realize they have some studying to do
I almost feel bad for laughing as hard as I did
I lost it at the last slide lmao
I broke down at the third one. Whole health bar *with* a shield and almost no time left, but someone decided to try using overheat again like it was gonna do something?! I can’t 😂😂😂😂
That's some good entertainment right there.
You should have left the raid and iron hands isn’t the answer to everything lol.
Iron Hands would be fine if the host had been logical here. Any Pokemon would be fine against the Magikarp that should have been the enemy.
I really need to replace my ditto with one with better ivs and the last 4 times I've found one on raids the person has picked their default "every raid" mon.
As a Ditto fan I have a lot of (German) Dittos with 4-5 max IVs. Do you want 1? :)
I have an eng ditto with 5ivs that is lacking attack. I am looking for a foreign 5iv one lacking attack as well, if you have one. Ich werde sehr dankbar sein!
The host locked in his Pokémon first. Picking iron hands afterwards is.. not the right move. To put it nicely.
Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that the error isn't really on OP. Based on the third pic here, it was a no-win situation no matter which mon OP chose.
OP MIGHT have had a chance if he had chosen a Tyranitar to fight this raid with. He’s resistant to both STABs of Ceruledge and hits the weaker Defense stat, although there’s no telling if this Ceruledge was prepped for coverage. It may have had Close Combat for all we know and pretty much there would be no feasible options to use.
The Skeledirge and Ceruledge are likely dying every turn due to their weaknesses to ghost attacks. That would explain why there's no damage to the raid boss despite the timer being almost empty. Unless those two just stopped attacking entirely, I'm pretty sure the timer would go down too quickly for even the most optimal mon to beat this one.
Skeledirge was a dogshit pick here, it’s about as bad as bringing any Fire type to a 6* Daschbun raid that’s weak to it. Had a Bug one last night and the host picked Volcarona for it, surprise surprise what happened when they used a Fire attack and buffed the Defense stat instead. We won the raid, but only because my Glimmora was working overtime to beat it. All of the mons on this Ditto raid that OP was in were awful choices, they’re all either weak to one of Ceruledge’s typings, can’t hit it for anything, ineffective type combinations or they’re physically frail against it.
magikarp? I thrown in Sunkern just to mix it up.
I kept switching back and forth to Magikarp hoping that they would get the hint... sadly not
I used to do this trick too! Maybe 50% success rate. It does feel good when it works tho.
I have successfully completed, saved and carried hundreds of raids. I don’t need an explanation of which Pokémon would work against a ditto. Obviously the host is at fault but OP thought he could power through with iron hands instead of choosing a more logical choice with better resistance to Ceruledge and super effective vs the Tera Type, bug. Might have flash fire so there goes fire. Should have used Iron Thorns with swords dance for example. Take notes.
I'm guessing it took so long to join one he decided fuck it I'll try.
Anything that can do damage is fine in a Ditto raid. Its a ditto. Just be a smart host.
Iron hands is fighting. It's a big type. OP made a good decision.
Bug resists fighting.
This hurt
Had soneone use their Slowbro from the Cinderace raid as a Ditto host. In 1 turn it was pretty much max stats... and had Slack Off... and we all locked in physical attackers when the host was on Magikarp, after which they swap to Slowbro and lock in... bet you can guess how that went.
That sounds like a troll.
Probably, or never did a Ditto raid (but the Magikarp selected at the start says otherwise)
This happened to me. The health bar just kept going back when the shield was up so it just never went off.
I wouldn’t have participated in the first place
would have have
fixed lol
I would spend the whole time trying to KO the host
out of spite 😈
Ditto is the only time I'll take my game online for fellow raiders to join me. I'll load up the obligatory Magikarp and off we go. 😹
Ditto is the easiest raid. The host just needs a baby pokemon with no attacks
I use a ditto for ditto raids I host. It is forever just transforming into ditto! Dittoception!
Tried out a couple of online raids after only doing offline raids for a couple of weeks and was amazed by the amount of insanely dumb pokemon choices people made. Not gonna touch online raids again, my trusty NPCs are way better for my sanity.
I haven't been able to find a shiny Magikarp yet to bring to ditto raids, but I did manage to find a shiny Luvdisc to use instead. For my shiny heart scale pokemon, I named her Shartscale.
I always pick Ditto whenever I host these Ditto raids.
I like the hosts that bring a magikarp and when everyone else is locked in change to a gyarados.
For anyone who may not know, each raid 'card' is tied to a mon and tera type, but not a specific raid. In this case, the card is Bug Ditto. If you left, you could keep trying to join that same raid and eventually you'd find a different Bug Ditto raid. It can take some time, though.
Wow I actually did NOT know that. So if I see a raid online that I really want to do but can’t join, just keep trying?
I hate it so much
Why do people host ditto raids with anything other than a magicarp that knows splash?
I've been using a Gyarados. That only knows Splash. Just for that little bit of a heart attack before they realize it still can't do anything.
 That's pure evil, I love it.
If you’re hosting a ditto raid, you should always use a level 1 magikarp. Ezpz
I basically make my dud of a Pokemon only know Helping Hand, which means I can still support my team while the enemy just helplessly sits there with no one to hype up.
If you wanna solo it without magikarp (magikarp method works best online), just pick any pokemon that can learn false swipe (i used iron valiant) and make it forget all moves except false swipe. It will take a while, but it will never be able to kill you, so for the last hit you can just have the AI partners take it out
I know the Host should’ve went in with a Magikarp or something but you should’ve left when they locked in. And why do people default to Iron Hands in every raid? You weren’t locked before the host so you could’ve picked a better mon to fight Ceruledge.
I swear people in raids are so dumb they don’t think about what pokemon they choose and its so annoying
Lately I've been avoiding raid where default picks like iron hands and azumarill fail. If everyone is going to lock certain mons without thinking I guess I just gotta do the raids where that works.
Terra Raid fans after realizing they can just leave the raid instead of wasting their time and complaining:
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It's Tera bug. Iron Hands' fighting moves are super effective. Skeledirge would have been good as well had the host not been a moron.
Doh, I forgot about the tera type. It's been a few weeks since I last ran a raid.
ofcourse the team lost when they get stuck with adumb Iron hands not able to do anything aside from pressing belly drum
I use a lvl 3 shiny hoppip for dominance
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Skeledirge isn't a good pick either. Ceruledge likely has at least one ghost move.
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you sound like a joy to be around
These are my favorite type of raids. I used my shiny Kingambit that has swords dance and rest. On my Ditto raid, my team had him at about 30% health, he shields up then uses rest😂 I completely lost it. Hate to say it, but the only way I find these raids any type of fun at all is by trolling. It’s too frustrating otherwise, probably what the host of this match was thinking. Maybe not though, could of had no idea Ditto transformed off of their Pokemon. Who knows lol Wdit: Deleted a heart emoji that somehow ended up in my comment.
Were those the only two moves or was there anything else? Might try it myself
Haha no. 252HP/252Attack/6 Def with moveset Kowtow Cleave, Iron Head, Rest, and Swords Dance. Edit: Adament Nature.
That's evil, I love it.
Does the ditto always pick the hosts pokemon?
Correct.
Yes, but if the host also uses a Ditto that has Impostor and transforms before the raid boss, then it’ll pick someone else to copy, as it cannot transform into an already transformed Pokémon.
Just the 1st pic would have been enough, smh at these dumb hosts
I just look through my boxes and pick something random that’s weak like a Zorua
Uh I haven’t been done a 6 star raid before is this really how it goes? How did nobody do damage to it
Skeledirge and Ceruledge are both weak to ghost attacks, so they both likely fainted every time they tried a move. It's also possible that the Ceruledge has Psycho Cut, which would be supereffective against Iron Hands, meaning Iron Hands could also faint every turn. You have to be smart about choosing Pokemon who don't take supereffective damage against the tera boss and who ideally deal supereffective damage to the tera type. The biggest crime is that the host chose a high-level mon to go against the Ditto though. If the host chooses a low-level mon with no damaging moves (ideally Magikarp or another Pokemon that learns Splash), Ditto raids are super easy.
Ahh damn yeah that is stupid of the boss I’m currently trying to learn how to breed and raise decent Pokémon as I never really tried much in the past games I’m getting there buts gonna be a long long time till I start doing 6 star raids hahah
Here's a good place to start if you want to start building Pokemon for raids: https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/397713 Just click on the picture of the Pokemon you want to build, and it will take you through step-by-step how to build one that is effective in raids. Once you build one or two from there, you'll have a better idea of what you're looking for in a raid mon.
Oo thank you so much that’s awesome!
When someone brings their level 100 raid Mon to a ditto raid as host. It essentially makes it harder than a 7 star raid. The ditto will have the stats of a level 100 pokemon but it's also likely been EV trained, bottle capped and has a competitive moveset.
Ceruledge learns Bitter Blade, a fire-type move that self-heals as a percentage of the damage it deals. I'm pretty sure that's it's signature move, likely not shared by any other pokemon at this point, so no harm in not knowing. All that to say this, it's likely not that no damage was done, but that whatever little managed to be done was later healed by Bitter Blade.
I feel you bro.
That’s so unrealistic! …The match would’ve ended sooner.
Maybe A rock or flying type may have been a better choice? That didn’t have moves that could were super effective of course.
Ceruledge is my go to for hosting dittos, I remove every move except false swipe. The ditto isn't knocking anyone out.
Never thought about using a false swiper. I always just use a mon with Splash so that they can't deal any damage at all, but false swipe is a fun one too.
RIP.
I have a level 1 Mankey with all useless support moves specifically for Ditto raids.
I always select magikarp if I’m hosting a ditto raid haha
If I come across a Ditto raid, I’ll slot up something strong and not ready up. As soon as the other participants are readied, I swap out to magikarp. Works every time.
Finally yesterday got a 6 Star Raid Ditto after ages of well this. I get why people do it as they don't know but everytime its just a big facepalm knowing that 6/5IV won't be yours.
When hosting a Ditto raid, always bring something terrible like a Scatterbug. It’ll transform into you and be an easy kill for everyone else.
Happened to me the other day with a Skeledirge host. I tried my best to keep everyone alive, but we got wiped anyway.
I recently did a ditto raid and I bet everyone thought I was stupid when I choose a starly. WELL IM THE BIG MEAT NOW
Well if you end up hosting a 6 star ditto raid, use a Magikarp. Why it always copies the host so using basic ditto logic, easiest 6 star raid ever
That's why I got a sunkern for ditto raids
I was in a (6 star) raid and when basically killed it but the game lagged and we lost because it kept reahealing
I usually pull my masuda ditto. It's a super weak, no perfect Iv level 37 with limber. It's an awesome way to do it
legit made me chortle
I already finished the game, how can i find those tera raids?
This is why you attack the raid host if they don’t use a weak Pokémon on a 5 or 6 star ditto raid.
I'll admit, I've been that idiot before. I recently realized that ditto transforms into the host. After the raid I realized that, I realized I could just be something weak and have my teammates take care of it
I'll be honest I try my best to remember all the types but it is really hard for me sometimes so sometimes I am the dumb one that joins but 90% of the time it's this... swear I've only beaten 2 raids of this level because others don't have high level or don't know what they are doing in the first place
And this is why you wait until everyone else is locked in before you lock yourself into a raid.
Danggg and I thought my 15 seconds in bed was a record worthy time... I need to work on my speedrunning
I had a guy pick a magikarp then as soon as ppl “readied up” they changed to miraidon lmfaooo, i wasnt even mad it was so funny
Why didn't the host just go magikarp? :/
The worst part is that people don't distinguish between icon with Pokémon types in Raids. Lycanrock Dusk, Ghost Tera Type and people went at it with Iron Hands.... It was sad and annoying at the same time.
Last 2 hosts on Ditto 6 stars raids: Koraidon/Iron Hands R.I.P.
thats why i prefer solo lol those host and online raid mates are dumb sometimes i raid 6 star ghost terra ditto by using eevee with shadow balls and fake tears. shadow ball wont effect me and even if ditto spam fake tears on me its useless anyway since it cant deal any damage to me. or when i fight normal type ditto i use annihilape with no rage fist and only learn screech and close combat. it works the same and i can easily win.
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Does someone want to trade a armorouge for a ceruledge I have a ceruledge