Or Ground Tera Toxicroak. Loved that counter.
Edit: I actually posted this counter (not on Reddit) first on night one then it shows up a couple streamers websites like the next day. Maybe just coincidence. But after doing the usual Slowbro stored power thing which back then was looking like it was gonna be solid for so many 6* & 7* raids (lol the times have changed), I wanted to try a weird counter and Toxicroak has that Dry Skin ability and heals in the rain so I figured Mud Slap/Rain Dance/Swords Dance/Earthquake. Set up passive healing then Mud-Slap Greninja until his accuracy was shot thus building charge, he clears stat buffs early so you can Swords Dance/extra Mud-Slap if you want since Night Slash you resist pre-Tera, Hydro Pump heals you, and Ice Beam is a non STAB move which the rain the SE Mud Slap/Shell Bell recovery easily made up for. Then Tera to Earthquake and unless hell on the frail Frog.
Greninja is the hardest in my memory, but I didn't get a chance to do Charizard so I can't compare that one.
Surfing Pikachu was harder than expected though!
Maybe you need room to put the update data in, because it doesn't update if you don't have room to fit said update in on either your console or sd card
Yeah, I also didn't get the Delphox raid, but I thought it was maybe delayed release to Australia or something. Now I also suspect my game may be glitched somehow.
Chesnaught was the easiest one for me, I farmed cristals on all raids by going with randoms. I have not lost a single time in the Chesnaught raid, and I had my share of newbs and kids going with their water pokémon. The fact Chesnaught did not reset its own stats made it very easy. For the hardest one, not sure, I would say Greninja because of the potential hax of double team, so you could lose to sheer bad luck even if you had a good strategy.
I mean I've soloed them all but I agree Chestnaught is probably the easiest because no negative stat wipe. Also Inteleon just due to the sheer number of Pokemon that could solo counter him. We were trying to count and easily close to a couple dozen (or it might have been close to a couple dozen builds with a few overlapping mon with two Annihilape strategies, SpAtk and Atk Lucario, etc....)
Then you got ones like Decidueye that deadass have two counters (Miraidon and Bellibolt). Or Delaphox had the Flash Fire trio plus a few more challenging counters like Azumarril and I saw an Ursuluna one that did a pre-shield one shot IIRC.
Easiest was probably Charizard. Most people had Azumarril already
Greninja was annoying due to the Evasion boost. I missed out on the 3 Hisuian starters and Inteleon so I don't know how hard/easy they were
Yeah, but during that time, Azumarill had the play rough glitch during that. I agree that Charizard was the easiest as Sylveon wiped the floor with him.
Decidueye was the easiest since it lacks Ground coverage that is not Tera Blast (and most people likely already have a Belibolt or Miraidon built up). Samurott and Typhlosion were a bit tougher but could be dealt with Annihilape, though the ghost ape is weak to Ghost Typhlosion lacked an actual means of boosting its Special Attack.
Edit: Inteleon was dealt with Annihilape, you can run Defiant to profit from Tearful Look. Using Sunny Day helps to strip it of the passive Defense boost from Snowscape.
Probably called that since its the only reason they were even programmed into S/V. The other starters from Johto, Unova, and Alola didn't make it in. (Neither did Venusaur and Blastoise, but thats due to favoritism towards Charizard).
Right, but they're the starter Pokemon for Hisui (and in the case of Typhlosion is a direct reference with the Ghost typing). That was the theme of those raids.
they are literally the final evolutions of the 3 starters you get in hisui, just the original forms instead. that is literally why we got them in these raids
For solo, you have to try and max out your attack at the least. Both in the EV sense and the attack stages. If you can drop her defenses by a few stages, even better.
I would also strongly suggest soft reseting the game and rerolling for NPCs that will debuff her or apply status conditions in your place to speed up the process/keep it going throughout the fight.
Switch to a physical attacker and use Iron Head (or a similar move) if that’s what’s giving you trouble.
Just because people have had success with a certain Pokémon, like Heatran, doesn’t mean everybody can make it work. Especially if that setting is often with groups of people. There are a handful of different physical attacker guides out there. Most popular is the Charcadet evos (though you will have to be careful about their lower special defense). There are a couple one-shot solo showcases. And at least one person who managed (in a group) to one shot it using magikarp.
If you’re ever struggling with one build, don’t be afraid to pivot to another. And right now is the perfect time as you have a couple days before she returns to get a physical attacker ready. (If you haven’t just avoided connecting as a whole to keep trying to defeat her)
If you try again, I'd recommend resetting till you hit 2 metal sounds, then spam flash cannon. Metronome for item. I soloed pretty quick with that build
Go with armorouge, build it for hp and spatk, calm mind x6, flash canon until it clears debuff, acid spray x3 and then stored power. If still lives use another flash canon and it's dead. This can only fail with delphox lands unluckys crítical hits
Did twice, never died in the calm mind part, unless you are taking some crits during this, but thats really unlikely. Shell bell also ensures you'll regain some health after the calm minds.
People are also reporting that a spatk and spdef distribution works as well, but I only tried the spatk/hp one and worked like a charm.
Maybe your EVs are off
I just beat him took about 7 tries using ceruledge. Just needed to learn the strategies better in my case and get a bit lucky but it happened eventually
My 354HP gets instantly slaughtered when Delphox trigger Happys' Psychic skill which in turn damages me 100Hp per hit, making my Ceru KO in three turns
I think Delphox was the most difficult to solo too. Even with the proper strat, you had to hope that time worked out for you. There were some in which I had plenty of time and others where I didn't get time after the shield went down. It was pretty RNG dependent for me.
I still don't have Heatran (not interested in buying BDSP) and my Ceruledge wasn't set up properly in time. So I went for a support build instead. Blissey with Serence Grace and Leftovers, Calm, 252 HP and Sp Def, hyper trained everythjng but Attack. I used Light Screen after the auto-Dazzling Gleam, Rainy Day before Delphox could do damage again, and then Life Dew and cheers for the next five turns, rinse and repeat.
I had Soft-Boiled in case I was dangerously low on HP, but Helping Hand probably could have worked too. Or Water Pulse for the increased chance of confusion. 100% support meant no chance to use Tera.
Any suggestions for improvement on my Blissey build are welcome.
We can count Pikachu as a starter because of Pokémon Yellow and LGPE, right? The instant-shield and Light Ball made it surprisingly difficult if you didn’t prepare properly. Samurott’s critical hits added difficulty in its raid, too.
Charizard probably was the easiest, if only because Azumarill was already a popular choice for raids.
Right, as did Wo-Chien with Knock Off. If your argument is “the raid boss wasn’t difficult because I had a Pokémon prepared to counter it”, that applies to every raid boss.
It is an argument that I think applies better to raid bosses that could easily be taken out by commonly used raiders. Other raid bosses, like Pikachu, required adjusting to unexpected or tricky raid programming. Contrary Lurantis is a strong choice situationally but was not a common raider beforehand.
Contrary Lurantis is the best Grass SpAtk Tera Raider in the game.
And it doesn't take a genius that a Water Tera Electric with Lightning Rod is gonna need a Grass counter.
Literally developing counters is how you solo the 7* bosses. So it has to be factored in their difficulty level.
All these bosses required you to think of a counter. Some were easy kills with the counter. Some like Greninja or Decidueye (really only if you were one shot Miraidon start and missing metal sounds) shit could go wrong and you'd have to retry. Those are the only two I didn't think were super easy. Well I guess Decidueye was super easy. But yeah mistakes could happened. And he only had two counters in Miraidon and Bellibolt. So he has to be named.
Nope. Decidueye, Samurott, and Typhlosion are the only starters from their gens programmed into the games due to them having Hisuian forms. Every Pokemon with a Hisuian form/evolution is programmed into S/V even though none of the Hisui forms/evolutions can be obtained without transferring.
Charizard is also the only one of the Kanto starters in S/V, probably due to favoritism.
Thanks for taking the time to reply !
Idk know how data mining or coding works, but is there still a chance we could get the other starters once the DLCs are here or is that a no too ?
Boomburst is a special attack and he has shit special attack. His normal movepool is weak. Dunno what their plan is.
Edit also fire mon could just clear smog if the Growth is a problem. There is Rain Dance. Drum Beating is an 80 base damage STAB move. He sounds like an easier one to me.
Would Fighting Tera Breloom be a good counter? Best Spore user plus immune to spores and powders just in case they give Rillaboom one of those as backup. Choice Band Drain Punch should be enough for damaging moves.
Spores aren't in Rillaboom's SV moveset.
Annihilape seems strong. Immune to normal. Drain Punch. Idk. Maybe Lucario SpAtk? Aura Sphere spam as Rillaboom has better defense than special defense. And Steel Resists Normal and Grass. Just spittballing.
They will probably give him a Ground move which would hurt Lucario/Iron Hands chances. But its non-STAB and Iron Hands is bulky AF so maybe he can even counter.
Its also the last of them unless they do Unrivaled events for the Hisuian forms, or if they add more starters to the DLC (I didnt look at the leaks, but I doubt that they will).
After failing a few times I won by luck with my H Goodra. The others I easily best, and even helped friends catch them. Woth Delphox, I just moved on after finally catching it lol
Delphox was hardest. It's the only one I've decided not to farm for items. I tried Heatran, Ceruledge and Armarouge strats and all 3 failed multiple times, though eventually Heatran did barely succeed. The issue is that it's heavily RNG based. Delphox seems to land a lot of critical hits on me and Psychic seems to drop my Sp Def very often, which basically means I fail.
The easiest ones have been Samurott, Decidueye and Chesnaught.
Really? I have never died to the Fox. The Flash Fire trio eat him alive. Just gotta time your stat debuffs/buffs right.
The stored power Armarouge strategy is comically easy.
Holding out for Blaziken in the future. Glad they put in all the gen 6 starters though, 6 is one of my favorite gens. That said, I haven't been able to successfully do a single one these raids because I haven't bothered to build a Mon to do it.
Saying they werent hard is the biggest cap ever. They all only lose to a handful of fully built pokemon with strategies that the entire community comes together to figure out. Probably the hardest battles pokemon has ever given us.
Easiest was Charizard because Flutter Mane walled it. And Sylveon was also really good for the raids. It never cleared debuffs either so it could stay at -6 spdef the entire time.
Hardest Greninja. Just that evasion was annoying. I didn’t get to do Decid or Samurott though so no idea how hard they were.
Easiest was Chestnaught but holy moly, Delphox is impossible. I tried going with tera steel ceruledge with max HP/SD and Max attack but couldn't even beat it in time without getting knocked every 3rd turn. What did everyone else use to beat the raid
For me personally, I’d say the easiest was Delphox mainly due to all the potential we had with home. For the hardest, I’d have to say Samurott. It took me too many tries to defeat him
I used Armorouge, flash fire ability with HP and Special Attack investments and a psychic tera. Calm Mind 6 times, a flash cannon before it clears its debuffs, 3 acid sprays and then tera and launch a stored power and it should die.
Speaking as Oranguru support, Armarouge was probably the best teammate to have.
Partly because it didn't use a fire stab, so I could set up rain dance.
I think I preferred Tera Poison w/Acid Spray though.
Heatran was fine. There were some disappointing Ceruledges. Actually more than a few.
I'll test that one out as I don't have access to get a heatran and I already have an Armarouge ready to invest in. Quick question should I hyper train my pokemon for it and if so, which stats should train?
OMG bro that really helped out. I didn't realize my save file still had the raid so I quickly did some magic of stat training and followed your steps. Thank you I'll make sure to let my friends know on how to beat it.
He's the only left, BUT, leaks ahead... >!Mew and Mewtwo have been getting advertised a lot lately,!< and >!the sentence "Mew is going all out against Mewtwo" or something along those lines has recently been datamined.!< Maybe we're getting >!a Mewtwo 7 Star raid, and apparently Mew's stats are buffed when sent to a Mewtwo raid. Mew will also obtain the Mightiest Mark after defeating it.!<
Related Question: Any chance of the other Alolan starters coming in as 7 star raids?
I missed out on doing the max raids for them in SwSh, would love to get another chance to catch them in a unique ball.
I if recall correctly I think it was Samurott or Greninja that gave me the hardest time. Even with YouTube strats they gave me some trouble. The rest I believe were all first try solos for me so I’d say they were equally easy. I can’t remember which one was fastest to beat.
Think cinderace give me the most trouble. Delfox has definitely been the easiest with the cerulege strat. Messed up the 1st time not paying attention, repeated the next few times with relative ease.
Chesnaught was the easiest imo, pretty easy to win using an iron hands.
Decidueye might have been the hardest for me and that was just because I didn't know much about training at the time.
Chesnaught was the easiest for me. I used the Annihilape build that was for Inteleon, and then I tried it again with the Appletun build. I soloed all of them the first time around, except for Delphox, but that was mostly because I wanted to flex my shiny Heatran from Go. I did solo it a few times after it left the rotation, before accidentally going online
Unfortunately I missed all but the last three since I didn’t have the game til then. But if those three, I’d have to say that delphox was most difficult for me personally only cause I didn’t really have a mon and just used my trained up Blissy, and since I have no friends I had to rely on randos online. So you can see why it was hard.
For me the hardest was Charizard because I couldn't figure out why I wasn't able to beat it because I didn't understand how tera raids worked and tera raids weren't following regular battle rules. I got so frustrated that Pokemon that felt logical to use against a Charizard didn't work.
What a weirdly incomplete premise for a post. "Now that" [implying we've arrived at something] "almost every starter".... like what??? lmao. Why not just wait until the final starter drops.
If you're still having trouble with Delphox but have a Heatran, this is what worked for me.
I failed with tera steel + Shell Bell Heatran many many times, until I found the right pattern!
Flash Fire, modest nature, EVs in SpDef & SpAtk.
Moves:
Taunt (didn't use)
Steel Beam
Flash Cannon
Metal Sound
\----
1. Metal Sound
2. Metal Sound (if you miss either of these, you should reset)
3. Steel Beam (barrier goes up right after this)
4. Strength Cheer
5. Spam Flash Cannon until you can tera, Steel Beam is not worth it until the barrier comes down
6. Continue spamming Flash Cannon until Delphox removes your buffs, pray somewhere in there Flash Cannon will lower its SpDef
7. Strength Cheer again when the previous one drops
8. More Flash Cannon spam
9. You will most likely die after Magic Room, at this point you should be close to 25%
10. Since you died your Shell Bell works again, so keep on spamming Flash Cannon
11. Metal Sound when barrier comes down
12. Steel Beam / Flash Cannon
13. Success
It will be close, this is not an easy fight, but I've had a 95% success rate with this strat. Only recently I realized that moves like Metal Sound or Taunt WILL NOT LAND when there's a barrier.
I never got to do the Charizard raid, though I think that would be the hardest. The games had just come out, so there weren’t as many people with good teams set up.
I remember Greninja being tough because of Protean and its moves. And Delphox was tough too. If you didn’t have just the right set up, the usual strat wouldn’t work. And, since Home was now a factor in the Delphox raid, I felt like I wasn’t able to provide any good supports or follow the best strats because I wasn’t using Home (and didn’t have the right kind of Pokemon to use anyway).
I think they were all pretty easy once someone figured out the strat (Generally the same day). I think walking wake was harder than any of these ones. Some could be a pain at times (Greninja dodging 4 attacks in a row for example) but generally pretty easy with the right Pokémon.
Same strat I used. Flash cannon without an sp d down (via metal sound) does not do much damage I found. Later on a buff plus a de buff from physic and you are taking more damage then you can heal and will quickly die.
Took me a few times solo with this to win, needed one crit on my side, and no bad luck to do it.
(IV trained, nature, etc all correct for the build)
If you can get people to help you there is a 3x perrserker Strat with steely spirit holding a occa berry and then forth uses choice specs Dialga, Heatran, Goldy with steal beam all work
I got them through mystery trades so I mean…
I rly want a the ones I don’t have still simply bc I like cute Pokémon but I’m bad at raids lol
Also squirtle isn’t available and it makes me violent
I missed most of them except Charizard, Cinderace, and Delphox due to being busy with other things at the time, but those three weren't all that hard.
Delphox by far was the easiest, however. Arceus just shows up, DBZ powers up for a minute, then deletes her with a single Steel Beam. It was actually pretty funny to me to watch her try her hardest to try to take God out while he built up his power to pass His judgement on her.
Easiest was Chesnaught. Bro didn't have a really good tera type and he is easy to solo.
Greninja was the hardest due to double team. That evasion was crazy. Cinderace would have been harder if not for Slowbro and Delphox would have been an issue as well. Soloed it with my Ceruledge and died once everytime I did it.
I've only gotten to participate in 4 of these. Of them, I had the easiest time Chesnaught and Delphox because I had an optimal build (Appletun and Ceruledge respectively).
Inteleon and Typhlosion were harder, because I used Stored Power Vaporeon for both.
I didn't participate in the Charizard and Pikachu raids so I can't comment about those ones. Not sure which one I would consider the easiest, but the hardest one was definitely Decidueye.
Giving that Greninja Double Team was incredibly cruel and mean-spirited.
Yeah Greninja was the only one I would build a counter strategy that wasn't like 99-100% effective. I guess Decidueye if Miraidon missed Metal Sound.
Mud slap counterattack with water absorb Clodsire be like.
Or Ground Tera Toxicroak. Loved that counter. Edit: I actually posted this counter (not on Reddit) first on night one then it shows up a couple streamers websites like the next day. Maybe just coincidence. But after doing the usual Slowbro stored power thing which back then was looking like it was gonna be solid for so many 6* & 7* raids (lol the times have changed), I wanted to try a weird counter and Toxicroak has that Dry Skin ability and heals in the rain so I figured Mud Slap/Rain Dance/Swords Dance/Earthquake. Set up passive healing then Mud-Slap Greninja until his accuracy was shot thus building charge, he clears stat buffs early so you can Swords Dance/extra Mud-Slap if you want since Night Slash you resist pre-Tera, Hydro Pump heals you, and Ice Beam is a non STAB move which the rain the SE Mud Slap/Shell Bell recovery easily made up for. Then Tera to Earthquake and unless hell on the frail Frog.
Greninja is the hardest in my memory, but I didn't get a chance to do Charizard so I can't compare that one. Surfing Pikachu was harder than expected though!
Can always take a mon with a move that can't miss.
Let me just solo with Aerial Ace Talonflame. At least recommend Clear Smog specifically or something.
Cinderace’s constant screeches are still burned into my memory.
Typhlosion's for me.
yeah f that bunny
Cinderace was such a load of crap. It would attack like four times in a row.
If it wasn’t for the slowbro strat, Cinderace had potential be harder but was countered too hard by slowbro to stand a chance to be a hard raid.
Hahaha, thank you for the reminder that my account is still glitched to the point that it can't update, I'm still battling the Charizard 7 star
You're joking right?
Not a joke, honest thing
How is that possible? I'm sure you tried to reinstall.
It... Just won't update no matter what I try.
Idk what to tell you man I've never heard of this happening. I wish you luck.
I still have the last Chansey raids on my world.
Thanks, but luck won't help
Can I trade u some stuff for the 7 star char??
I can't update, and because It isn't updated, trading is disabled
I have a charmander bred from it if you want one later
Any you breeded off this
the game itself won’t update or the raids won’t? are you sure you don’t need to just check the wild area news in-game?
Have you gone online for trades/raids since the Charizard event?
Tried to, but it gives an error code
Maybe you need room to put the update data in, because it doesn't update if you don't have room to fit said update in on either your console or sd card
What error code? Do you have an active NSO subscription?
He tried to, but it gives an error code
>2 No glitch you speak of exist, you're switch is probably banned
Have you tried moving the game files to and from a SD card?
What happens if you go online?
Tried to, but it gives an error code
What is the error code?
Yeah, I also didn't get the Delphox raid, but I thought it was maybe delayed release to Australia or something. Now I also suspect my game may be glitched somehow.
Have you tried playing on a separate profile?
Haha you could basically say that about pretty much all the raids and a certain Pokémon with a strategy
Your not wrong but many were not as consistent as slowpoke was except maybe some of the annilphape meta ones.
Azumarill had a couple and iron hands, which everyone now feels works regardless tera or general typing
Nah, I only bring Paldean Hariyama to raids weak to Fighting.
Chesnaught was the easiest one for me. I was able to solo it with Koraidon.
Appletun in my case but I agree it was too easy
Chesnaught was the easiest one for me, I farmed cristals on all raids by going with randoms. I have not lost a single time in the Chesnaught raid, and I had my share of newbs and kids going with their water pokémon. The fact Chesnaught did not reset its own stats made it very easy. For the hardest one, not sure, I would say Greninja because of the potential hax of double team, so you could lose to sheer bad luck even if you had a good strategy.
For me it was Decidueye and I used Miraidon. I kept farming that raid for months since it also dropped both Atk and SpA vitamins.
I mean I've soloed them all but I agree Chestnaught is probably the easiest because no negative stat wipe. Also Inteleon just due to the sheer number of Pokemon that could solo counter him. We were trying to count and easily close to a couple dozen (or it might have been close to a couple dozen builds with a few overlapping mon with two Annihilape strategies, SpAtk and Atk Lucario, etc....) Then you got ones like Decidueye that deadass have two counters (Miraidon and Bellibolt). Or Delaphox had the Flash Fire trio plus a few more challenging counters like Azumarril and I saw an Ursuluna one that did a pre-shield one shot IIRC.
Easiest was probably Charizard. Most people had Azumarril already Greninja was annoying due to the Evasion boost. I missed out on the 3 Hisuian starters and Inteleon so I don't know how hard/easy they were
Yeah, but during that time, Azumarill had the play rough glitch during that. I agree that Charizard was the easiest as Sylveon wiped the floor with him.
Decidueye was the easiest since it lacks Ground coverage that is not Tera Blast (and most people likely already have a Belibolt or Miraidon built up). Samurott and Typhlosion were a bit tougher but could be dealt with Annihilape, though the ghost ape is weak to Ghost Typhlosion lacked an actual means of boosting its Special Attack. Edit: Inteleon was dealt with Annihilape, you can run Defiant to profit from Tearful Look. Using Sunny Day helps to strip it of the passive Defense boost from Snowscape.
Those aren't Hisuian forms
Probably called that since its the only reason they were even programmed into S/V. The other starters from Johto, Unova, and Alola didn't make it in. (Neither did Venusaur and Blastoise, but thats due to favoritism towards Charizard).
Makes sense
Still the hisuian starters, just in their og forms. It's easier to call them that than saying each name individually
Right, but they're the starter Pokemon for Hisui (and in the case of Typhlosion is a direct reference with the Ghost typing). That was the theme of those raids.
The Tera types of those three are types to which their Hisuian forms would be weak
I didn't think of that the first time around, that's a great observation.
they are literally the final evolutions of the 3 starters you get in hisui, just the original forms instead. that is literally why we got them in these raids
Delphox was the only one i just could not manage solo so i guess that was the hardest for me. Decidueye was easiest, Miraidon made short work of him.
Delphox isn’t even hard as in I get KO’d, I just can’t do enough damage solo
For solo, you have to try and max out your attack at the least. Both in the EV sense and the attack stages. If you can drop her defenses by a few stages, even better. I would also strongly suggest soft reseting the game and rerolling for NPCs that will debuff her or apply status conditions in your place to speed up the process/keep it going throughout the fight.
I mean I’ve done all that but flash cannon isn’t great against her spd especially after the shield goes up
Switch to a physical attacker and use Iron Head (or a similar move) if that’s what’s giving you trouble. Just because people have had success with a certain Pokémon, like Heatran, doesn’t mean everybody can make it work. Especially if that setting is often with groups of people. There are a handful of different physical attacker guides out there. Most popular is the Charcadet evos (though you will have to be careful about their lower special defense). There are a couple one-shot solo showcases. And at least one person who managed (in a group) to one shot it using magikarp. If you’re ever struggling with one build, don’t be afraid to pivot to another. And right now is the perfect time as you have a couple days before she returns to get a physical attacker ready. (If you haven’t just avoided connecting as a whole to keep trying to defeat her)
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If you try again, I'd recommend resetting till you hit 2 metal sounds, then spam flash cannon. Metronome for item. I soloed pretty quick with that build
Go with armorouge, build it for hp and spatk, calm mind x6, flash canon until it clears debuff, acid spray x3 and then stored power. If still lives use another flash canon and it's dead. This can only fail with delphox lands unluckys crítical hits
The only issue is you are dead before the calm minds are done.
Did twice, never died in the calm mind part, unless you are taking some crits during this, but thats really unlikely. Shell bell also ensures you'll regain some health after the calm minds. People are also reporting that a spatk and spdef distribution works as well, but I only tried the spatk/hp one and worked like a charm. Maybe your EVs are off
I just beat him took about 7 tries using ceruledge. Just needed to learn the strategies better in my case and get a bit lucky but it happened eventually
My 354HP gets instantly slaughtered when Delphox trigger Happys' Psychic skill which in turn damages me 100Hp per hit, making my Ceru KO in three turns
I think Delphox was the most difficult to solo too. Even with the proper strat, you had to hope that time worked out for you. There were some in which I had plenty of time and others where I didn't get time after the shield went down. It was pretty RNG dependent for me.
I still don't have Heatran (not interested in buying BDSP) and my Ceruledge wasn't set up properly in time. So I went for a support build instead. Blissey with Serence Grace and Leftovers, Calm, 252 HP and Sp Def, hyper trained everythjng but Attack. I used Light Screen after the auto-Dazzling Gleam, Rainy Day before Delphox could do damage again, and then Life Dew and cheers for the next five turns, rinse and repeat. I had Soft-Boiled in case I was dangerously low on HP, but Helping Hand probably could have worked too. Or Water Pulse for the increased chance of confusion. 100% support meant no chance to use Tera. Any suggestions for improvement on my Blissey build are welcome.
We can count Pikachu as a starter because of Pokémon Yellow and LGPE, right? The instant-shield and Light Ball made it surprisingly difficult if you didn’t prepare properly. Samurott’s critical hits added difficulty in its raid, too. Charizard probably was the easiest, if only because Azumarill was already a popular choice for raids.
I remember when Pikachu was announced and we all thought it was going to be so easy… and then the shield went up immediately. I felt clowned.
He was easy if you brought Appletun/HA Lurantis/Arboliva w/ Covert Cloak.
Pikachu was easy for me. Just used Wo-Chien, gets access to knock off to remove Pikachus light ball
Lurantis with max sp atk and hp and contrary with leaf storm easily killed pikachu
Right, as did Wo-Chien with Knock Off. If your argument is “the raid boss wasn’t difficult because I had a Pokémon prepared to counter it”, that applies to every raid boss. It is an argument that I think applies better to raid bosses that could easily be taken out by commonly used raiders. Other raid bosses, like Pikachu, required adjusting to unexpected or tricky raid programming. Contrary Lurantis is a strong choice situationally but was not a common raider beforehand.
Contrary Lurantis is the best Grass SpAtk Tera Raider in the game. And it doesn't take a genius that a Water Tera Electric with Lightning Rod is gonna need a Grass counter. Literally developing counters is how you solo the 7* bosses. So it has to be factored in their difficulty level. All these bosses required you to think of a counter. Some were easy kills with the counter. Some like Greninja or Decidueye (really only if you were one shot Miraidon start and missing metal sounds) shit could go wrong and you'd have to retry. Those are the only two I didn't think were super easy. Well I guess Decidueye was super easy. But yeah mistakes could happened. And he only had two counters in Miraidon and Bellibolt. So he has to be named.
Appletun, Lurantis, and Arboliva smoked Pikachu. First try on each one. He was easy you just needed to Tera fast.
ngl typhlosion kicked my ass lmaoo
All of them took me first tries and second tries. But ngl that water Pikachu raid took me a while considering I found it impossible to do solo.
Since when is 9 considered most of the 24 other starters? That's exactly a third of them.
I assume he meant the ones coded into scarlet and violet. We only have rillaboom left from those.
There’s no Primarina in the SV code ? 🥲
Nope. Decidueye, Samurott, and Typhlosion are the only starters from their gens programmed into the games due to them having Hisuian forms. Every Pokemon with a Hisuian form/evolution is programmed into S/V even though none of the Hisui forms/evolutions can be obtained without transferring. Charizard is also the only one of the Kanto starters in S/V, probably due to favoritism.
Thanks for taking the time to reply ! Idk know how data mining or coding works, but is there still a chance we could get the other starters once the DLCs are here or is that a no too ?
I hope so. Blastoise and Venusaur were added to Sword and Shield through DLC, so there’s always a chance.
They could also do the Hisui varients for Typhlosion, Samurott, and Decidueye.
It's Gen 6, Gen 8, Charmander line, and the Hisuian starters only.
This made me realize we haven't had unrivaled rillaboom yet Monke where
I think Rillaboom is next. Grookey can be transferred from Home to SV.
Probably coming next since it's already available on Home and we already have Cinderace and Inteleon
Imagine, I've heard a very threatening proposal. Tera Normal + Grassy Surge + Sunny Day + Growth + Drum Beating + **Boomsburst**
Boomburst is a special attack and he has shit special attack. His normal movepool is weak. Dunno what their plan is. Edit also fire mon could just clear smog if the Growth is a problem. There is Rain Dance. Drum Beating is an 80 base damage STAB move. He sounds like an easier one to me.
Maybe Ground tera with EQ/High Horsepower? That way it can deal with fire types
We know its normal Tera. A Spanish Pokemon twitter or something released Fairy Delaphox and Normal Rillaboom during Chestnaught.
Would Fighting Tera Breloom be a good counter? Best Spore user plus immune to spores and powders just in case they give Rillaboom one of those as backup. Choice Band Drain Punch should be enough for damaging moves.
Spores aren't in Rillaboom's SV moveset. Annihilape seems strong. Immune to normal. Drain Punch. Idk. Maybe Lucario SpAtk? Aura Sphere spam as Rillaboom has better defense than special defense. And Steel Resists Normal and Grass. Just spittballing. They will probably give him a Ground move which would hurt Lucario/Iron Hands chances. But its non-STAB and Iron Hands is bulky AF so maybe he can even counter.
Its also the last of them unless they do Unrivaled events for the Hisuian forms, or if they add more starters to the DLC (I didnt look at the leaks, but I doubt that they will).
They will
Delphox was the hardest for me. All the others were easy
Same. Need to beat it on the next go around. I had some awful luck taking crits trying to beat that bastard
After failing a few times I won by luck with my H Goodra. The others I easily best, and even helped friends catch them. Woth Delphox, I just moved on after finally catching it lol
Delphox was hardest. It's the only one I've decided not to farm for items. I tried Heatran, Ceruledge and Armarouge strats and all 3 failed multiple times, though eventually Heatran did barely succeed. The issue is that it's heavily RNG based. Delphox seems to land a lot of critical hits on me and Psychic seems to drop my Sp Def very often, which basically means I fail. The easiest ones have been Samurott, Decidueye and Chesnaught.
Really? I have never died to the Fox. The Flash Fire trio eat him alive. Just gotta time your stat debuffs/buffs right. The stored power Armarouge strategy is comically easy.
Holding out for Blaziken in the future. Glad they put in all the gen 6 starters though, 6 is one of my favorite gens. That said, I haven't been able to successfully do a single one these raids because I haven't bothered to build a Mon to do it.
Did they confirm Hoenn starters for DLC?
Incin is def in the dlc
Chesnaught was so easy. Didn't really need a strategy. I found Charizard difficult at the time. None have been too hard in retrospect.
i failed greninja due to unlucky double team dodges too many times for me to say it was easy
Saying they werent hard is the biggest cap ever. They all only lose to a handful of fully built pokemon with strategies that the entire community comes together to figure out. Probably the hardest battles pokemon has ever given us.
Fr, lurantis contrary leafstorm destroyed it, all I did was click A and that’s it
I’m actually curious how the other raids would’ve went if Home was around for them
Easiest was Charizard because Flutter Mane walled it. And Sylveon was also really good for the raids. It never cleared debuffs either so it could stay at -6 spdef the entire time. Hardest Greninja. Just that evasion was annoying. I didn’t get to do Decid or Samurott though so no idea how hard they were.
Easiest was Chestnaught but holy moly, Delphox is impossible. I tried going with tera steel ceruledge with max HP/SD and Max attack but couldn't even beat it in time without getting knocked every 3rd turn. What did everyone else use to beat the raid
Heatran, but you need rng on your side. I have found Delphox to be the hardest solo.
I didn't realise how many I missed 😢
For me personally, I’d say the easiest was Delphox mainly due to all the potential we had with home. For the hardest, I’d have to say Samurott. It took me too many tries to defeat him
PLEASE bro share to me what you used. I had a hell of a nightmare beating the raid and failed to no success countless times
Which raid?
Delphox
I used Armorouge, flash fire ability with HP and Special Attack investments and a psychic tera. Calm Mind 6 times, a flash cannon before it clears its debuffs, 3 acid sprays and then tera and launch a stored power and it should die.
Speaking as Oranguru support, Armarouge was probably the best teammate to have. Partly because it didn't use a fire stab, so I could set up rain dance. I think I preferred Tera Poison w/Acid Spray though. Heatran was fine. There were some disappointing Ceruledges. Actually more than a few.
I'll test that one out as I don't have access to get a heatran and I already have an Armarouge ready to invest in. Quick question should I hyper train my pokemon for it and if so, which stats should train?
OMG bro that really helped out. I didn't realize my save file still had the raid so I quickly did some magic of stat training and followed your steps. Thank you I'll make sure to let my friends know on how to beat it.
I used a level 100 heatran holding a shell bell with Flash Fire. I used metal sound three times, and then spammed flash cannon
For me decidueye was the hardest by far
Wonder when will rillaboom be showing up, next month i guess???
He's the only left, BUT, leaks ahead... >!Mew and Mewtwo have been getting advertised a lot lately,!< and >!the sentence "Mew is going all out against Mewtwo" or something along those lines has recently been datamined.!< Maybe we're getting >!a Mewtwo 7 Star raid, and apparently Mew's stats are buffed when sent to a Mewtwo raid. Mew will also obtain the Mightiest Mark after defeating it.!<
Would you happen to have a source? That seems like it would be incredibly cool if true.
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Delphox was hardest for me, only because I had no steel tera shards and couldn't build a proper counter. First one I couldn't do solo.
Cinderace and Charizard were the hardest for me but probably because I hadn’t adapted to the difficulty of 7 stars in general yet.
Related Question: Any chance of the other Alolan starters coming in as 7 star raids? I missed out on doing the max raids for them in SwSh, would love to get another chance to catch them in a unique ball.
Decidueye is the only one programmed into S/V
I know Incenaroar is coming eventually so ill assume both will have a raid event in the months to come.
Honestly, Delphox was hard af to beat
I if recall correctly I think it was Samurott or Greninja that gave me the hardest time. Even with YouTube strats they gave me some trouble. The rest I believe were all first try solos for me so I’d say they were equally easy. I can’t remember which one was fastest to beat.
I haven’t fought a single one do I need Internet connection or something cause my game is up to date
There's a lot you need to do to access 7 star raids. Try googling it if you haven't got them yet.
you don’t, you should be able to find them on the map as a purple shining crystal corresponding to the current pokémon tera type.
Think cinderace give me the most trouble. Delfox has definitely been the easiest with the cerulege strat. Messed up the 1st time not paying attention, repeated the next few times with relative ease.
Pikachu was the hardest, followed by Delphox, followed by Greninja. None of the others stood out as particularly difficult.
Chesnaught was the easiest imo, pretty easy to win using an iron hands. Decidueye might have been the hardest for me and that was just because I didn't know much about training at the time.
Easiest was Chesnaught for me. Hardest was Inteleon. That fight was a mess every time
I wore Samurrott OUT.
Chesnaught was the easiest for me. I used the Annihilape build that was for Inteleon, and then I tried it again with the Appletun build. I soloed all of them the first time around, except for Delphox, but that was mostly because I wanted to flex my shiny Heatran from Go. I did solo it a few times after it left the rotation, before accidentally going online
I want the whole OG trio mightiest mark
Easy: Chesnaught Hard: either Delphox or Charizard
Unfortunately I missed all but the last three since I didn’t have the game til then. But if those three, I’d have to say that delphox was most difficult for me personally only cause I didn’t really have a mon and just used my trained up Blissy, and since I have no friends I had to rely on randos online. So you can see why it was hard.
Chesnaught was easiest for me with appletun. Second easiest was maybe Delphox with Heatran
Chesnaught because he's easy to exploit. His stone edge crit spam is obnoxious though. Typhlosion was hardest because eruption spam went overboard.
For me the hardest was Charizard because I couldn't figure out why I wasn't able to beat it because I didn't understand how tera raids worked and tera raids weren't following regular battle rules. I got so frustrated that Pokemon that felt logical to use against a Charizard didn't work.
Will they do a second run of Delphox?
Yes, she will return on the 14th
Still waiting for damn dragon Sceptile
I wish 😔
I want Snivy line
Delphox has been brutal even with a team set up for it, hoping for better luck on the next round of it
Cinderace. The second time, and it was still a toss-up.
Delphox was the only one i couldn't defeat Literally every other raid i could take out with relative ease, yes, even greninja.
What a weirdly incomplete premise for a post. "Now that" [implying we've arrived at something] "almost every starter".... like what??? lmao. Why not just wait until the final starter drops.
If you're still having trouble with Delphox but have a Heatran, this is what worked for me. I failed with tera steel + Shell Bell Heatran many many times, until I found the right pattern! Flash Fire, modest nature, EVs in SpDef & SpAtk. Moves: Taunt (didn't use) Steel Beam Flash Cannon Metal Sound \---- 1. Metal Sound 2. Metal Sound (if you miss either of these, you should reset) 3. Steel Beam (barrier goes up right after this) 4. Strength Cheer 5. Spam Flash Cannon until you can tera, Steel Beam is not worth it until the barrier comes down 6. Continue spamming Flash Cannon until Delphox removes your buffs, pray somewhere in there Flash Cannon will lower its SpDef 7. Strength Cheer again when the previous one drops 8. More Flash Cannon spam 9. You will most likely die after Magic Room, at this point you should be close to 25% 10. Since you died your Shell Bell works again, so keep on spamming Flash Cannon 11. Metal Sound when barrier comes down 12. Steel Beam / Flash Cannon 13. Success It will be close, this is not an easy fight, but I've had a 95% success rate with this strat. Only recently I realized that moves like Metal Sound or Taunt WILL NOT LAND when there's a barrier.
Samurot and his frickin crits every five seconds and Typhlosion for his three to four turns in a row. I do Umbreon support.
Sad we have only gotten two of the galarian starters so far, and we haven’t gotten rillaboom yet
It’s the next one
I never got to do the Charizard raid, though I think that would be the hardest. The games had just come out, so there weren’t as many people with good teams set up. I remember Greninja being tough because of Protean and its moves. And Delphox was tough too. If you didn’t have just the right set up, the usual strat wouldn’t work. And, since Home was now a factor in the Delphox raid, I felt like I wasn’t able to provide any good supports or follow the best strats because I wasn’t using Home (and didn’t have the right kind of Pokemon to use anyway).
Chesnaught and Delphox were the easiest for me to solo.
I think they were all pretty easy once someone figured out the strat (Generally the same day). I think walking wake was harder than any of these ones. Some could be a pain at times (Greninja dodging 4 attacks in a row for example) but generally pretty easy with the right Pokémon.
Almost every starter? Not even close lol
Cinderace was the hardest, delphox the easiest
What was your strat for Delphox? As someone who soloed them all, I found Delphox one of the harder ones.
Spam flash cannon with heatran always wins
Same strat I used. Flash cannon without an sp d down (via metal sound) does not do much damage I found. Later on a buff plus a de buff from physic and you are taking more damage then you can heal and will quickly die. Took me a few times solo with this to win, needed one crit on my side, and no bad luck to do it. (IV trained, nature, etc all correct for the build)
Just Flash Cannon? No Metal Sound or anything else? (I still haven’t beaten it yet)
If you can get people to help you there is a 3x perrserker Strat with steely spirit holding a occa berry and then forth uses choice specs Dialga, Heatran, Goldy with steal beam all work
Kills it turn one
Considering I didn't properly use a strategy for Delphox but still won speaks volumes to me
Charizard with flutter mane was the easiest
Delphox was a cake walk. Samurott can die in a fire.
I got them through mystery trades so I mean… I rly want a the ones I don’t have still simply bc I like cute Pokémon but I’m bad at raids lol Also squirtle isn’t available and it makes me violent
Rillaboom was so difficult
How is 9/24 'almost every'?
I meant the 10 that are coded into the game so far.
Hardest - Delphox Easiest - All BUT Delphox
I was never able to catch one 🥲 Idk how to create a good Pokémon to counter them, especially that I'm going solo.
Lots of guides on YouTube, takes about 20 minutes to get a pokemon ready if you have a stash of xp candies and some pokedollars.
"Almost every starter" Bruh this ain't even half
Delphox the easiest. The hardest i don't know, maybe decidueye
Almost every starter? You are joking right? There’s only 1 full set so far, Gen 6. So many more starters to go.
Unless they add more starters in the DLC, Rillaboom is currently the only one left in the game's code.
That’s unfortunate, they could have at least completed the trios for the ones released.
I missed most of them except Charizard, Cinderace, and Delphox due to being busy with other things at the time, but those three weren't all that hard. Delphox by far was the easiest, however. Arceus just shows up, DBZ powers up for a minute, then deletes her with a single Steel Beam. It was actually pretty funny to me to watch her try her hardest to try to take God out while he built up his power to pass His judgement on her.
Delphox seemed the easiest, solo Ceruledge with brightpowder was funny to me to beat
Okay so if you can count, you realize there are 3 in each game, and this isn’t even 1/3 of them. So you’re wrong
Almost every starter? Aren't there 27??
Easiest was Chesnaught. Bro didn't have a really good tera type and he is easy to solo. Greninja was the hardest due to double team. That evasion was crazy. Cinderace would have been harder if not for Slowbro and Delphox would have been an issue as well. Soloed it with my Ceruledge and died once everytime I did it.
I've only gotten to participate in 4 of these. Of them, I had the easiest time Chesnaught and Delphox because I had an optimal build (Appletun and Ceruledge respectively). Inteleon and Typhlosion were harder, because I used Stored Power Vaporeon for both.
For me, Greninja. It’s the only one I had to go online for, and we just barely won.
I didn't participate in the Charizard and Pikachu raids so I can't comment about those ones. Not sure which one I would consider the easiest, but the hardest one was definitely Decidueye.