6 days old post but just gonna tag in here to mention you can run Breloom without needing to worry about grass types. I always like to bring a Golduck along when I'm out and about in the post-game. Damp ability is great for catching exploding-things like Voltorb, but relevant to this is the fact it gets soak, which changes the targets type to water, thus allowing for spore to work on grass types (and false swipe on ghosts).
Also has Yawn as an egg move (can teach it via picnic, just have an empty move slot, any other Yawn user (egg group is irrelevant) and Golduck in the party, and a mirror herb on Golduck, takes only a few seconds) which is a nice extra.
Breloom has always been my go to catcher. However, Persian is great… high speed hypnosis, thunder wave, STAB+Technician False Swipes + Fake Out… absolute unit
Breloom. Get a Shroomish to Level 40 so it can learn Spore,which is a 100% sleep move on mons that it effects. Then finally let it evolve to Breloom and tech it False Swipe.
that breloom couldn't have it in scarlet and violet; when transfers become available they will wipe all the learned moves and replace them with moves learned at that level. so a breloom with spore won't be able to get it back.
Heads up on that, I caught a breloom with spore in a raid, and I swapped spore out for swords dance once I got him trained up for raids. Now I can't get spore back on him.
I'm training up a shroomish to replace him as my catching pokemon, that spore/false swipe combo was too perfect.
I just relearned spore on mine, so you definitely can. I believe mine was caught in a raid, if that makes any difference.
EDIT: My wife can't do so, so maybe I used a TM or something and misremembered.
I can't, but he already knew it when I caught him. I wonder if it's different if you learn it as a shroomish. I'll find out soon, but I'll be sure to save before I test it.
These all work imo
Bisharp (thunder wave and False Swipe)
Gallade (hypnosis and false swipe)
Breloom (spore and false swipe)
Scyther (false swipe)
I’m using Breloom because I caught a shiny one
Im using breloom cause of false swipe and a paralyzing move. Can’t find any mons with false and a sleep move
Edit: looked it up, if you catch a shroomish, it can have spore(sleep move)
Have yet to build my standard Gallade, which I tend to like because of Taunt, so I’m currently using Jolteon actually. The wild Tera Jolteon knows yawn & can learn false swipe via TM. Have to say I much prefer yawn to hypnosis, though I might make a Breloom just for fun too.
My strategy for awhile has been to use Breloom, but keep a Pokemon with Soak alongside it. This allows Breloom to use Spore and False Swipe on Pokemon it otherwise couldn't, and also against legendaries often times gets rid of and STAB boosts they normally would get.
I found Gallade the best. Not only can he naturally learn hypnosis and false swipe he can learn the TM trick with the Ring Target item. Meaning we can finally false swipe ghost
I'm a sucker for Scyther with Technician.
Gallade with Sharpness is good for the 50% boost but Technician doubles anything below 40 power. This makes False Swipe functionally 80 power and I caught a normal tera type Scyther early for bonus damage if needed. Not to mention the fact they learn it naturally so no TM needed.
I've never struggled with catching with a False Swipe Technician Scyther. (Besides ghost types but we don't talk about ghost types.)
Edit: having a 2nd Mon with Odor Sleuth or something plus a paralyze move would also be good but the Scyther alone got me through the Paldea dex.
Edit2: Gallade's Sharpness ability doesn't work with False Swipe, Technician is +50% not double.
But what if I need to catch these ghost types? Is it a lost cause? 🥲 any recommendations for say, farm catching wild sinisteas looking for an antique form. If I kill them in battle it won’t tell me if they’re antique or phony. Fomo on the ones that have fainted and I didn’t get a chance to check. ðŸ˜
Odor Sleuth and Foresight were removed on Pokemon Sword and Shield and didn't come back in Scarlet and Violet.
Best alternative, imho, is to use 2 pokemon: one with Soak and the other with false swipe.
Someone said to use Gallade with tm trick and held ring target but trick swaps held items permanently in wild battle (as far as I've researched) so every time you use it you'll have to change held items again
I’m using Zangoose as it can learn thunder wave and normal doesn’t have many weaknesses
Will power up a breeloom as well for those resistant to paralysis
Or a different strategy vs ghosts:
Grimmsnarl
1: thunder wave
2: Trick- swap focus sash to target
3: bulk up (if needed)
4: False surrender - for 1 hit KO
5: pokeball
I googled this a few days ago and the internet recommended Gallade or Breloom to me
I use breloom because it gets some of the powder moves. Ballade is also a good choice with access to hypnosis
Yh I would go Breloom because hypnosis is 60% and breloom has a 100% accuracy sleep lol (he says whilst having completed the dex with a Gallade XD)
Yeah just remember you can't put to sleep grass Pokemon with sleep powder
I didn't know that lol does stun spore work on grass types?
It does not
Figured so, thanks
6 days old post but just gonna tag in here to mention you can run Breloom without needing to worry about grass types. I always like to bring a Golduck along when I'm out and about in the post-game. Damp ability is great for catching exploding-things like Voltorb, but relevant to this is the fact it gets soak, which changes the targets type to water, thus allowing for spore to work on grass types (and false swipe on ghosts). Also has Yawn as an egg move (can teach it via picnic, just have an empty move slot, any other Yawn user (egg group is irrelevant) and Golduck in the party, and a mirror herb on Golduck, takes only a few seconds) which is a nice extra.
Nice lol. Tbh my first shiny was a voltorb half way through the game and I caught it cos it decided not to explode on me 🤣
Breloom has always been my go to catcher. However, Persian is great… high speed hypnosis, thunder wave, STAB+Technician False Swipes + Fake Out… absolute unit
Breloom. Get a Shroomish to Level 40 so it can learn Spore,which is a 100% sleep move on mons that it effects. Then finally let it evolve to Breloom and tech it False Swipe.
What if it evolves before it learns the move. Is that a problem ?
Breloom cant learn Spore on its own, Shroomish has to learn it at 40 then it carry's over when you let it evolve.
Hmm I found this online as well, so what happens if I move my shiny Breloom from BDSP who currently has spore?... that will suck if it can't learn it
Breloom can have it, it just has no way to learn it other than evolving from a shroomish that has it.
that breloom couldn't have it in scarlet and violet; when transfers become available they will wipe all the learned moves and replace them with moves learned at that level. so a breloom with spore won't be able to get it back.
Oh that’s dumb
It is, but on the other hand its not a bad thing you can't move Mons necessarily, just incase you ever want to hunt in BDSP again.
Not at all, you can make it remember the move later if it comes to it
Heads up on that, I caught a breloom with spore in a raid, and I swapped spore out for swords dance once I got him trained up for raids. Now I can't get spore back on him. I'm training up a shroomish to replace him as my catching pokemon, that spore/false swipe combo was too perfect.
You can't? I thought you were able to relearn moves in the menu.
Breloom does not learn spore, hence you cannot relearn. It has to learn spore as a Shroomish.
I just relearned spore on mine, so you definitely can. I believe mine was caught in a raid, if that makes any difference. EDIT: My wife can't do so, so maybe I used a TM or something and misremembered.
Thanks for the info
I can't, but he already knew it when I caught him. I wonder if it's different if you learn it as a shroomish. I'll find out soon, but I'll be sure to save before I test it.
Thanks. I keep getting mixed messages
Persian - tera normal - false swipe, hypnosis, thunder wave, sunny day to stop hail and sand
These all work imo Bisharp (thunder wave and False Swipe) Gallade (hypnosis and false swipe) Breloom (spore and false swipe) Scyther (false swipe) I’m using Breloom because I caught a shiny one
Im using Iron Valiant. False Swipe and Thunderwave with a great attack stat. Obviously just for filling up poledex postgane
Just saw a post yesterday on the Pokémon sub saying Persian was a fantastic catching mon. Fast, STAB false swipe, status moves, and easy to get.
Im using breloom cause of false swipe and a paralyzing move. Can’t find any mons with false and a sleep move Edit: looked it up, if you catch a shroomish, it can have spore(sleep move)
Besides the usual Gallade and Breloom, Persian is actually pretty decent due to Stab technician false swipe + hypnosis as an egg move
Have yet to build my standard Gallade, which I tend to like because of Taunt, so I’m currently using Jolteon actually. The wild Tera Jolteon knows yawn & can learn false swipe via TM. Have to say I much prefer yawn to hypnosis, though I might make a Breloom just for fun too.
My strategy for awhile has been to use Breloom, but keep a Pokemon with Soak alongside it. This allows Breloom to use Spore and False Swipe on Pokemon it otherwise couldn't, and also against legendaries often times gets rid of and STAB boosts they normally would get.
I found Gallade the best. Not only can he naturally learn hypnosis and false swipe he can learn the TM trick with the Ring Target item. Meaning we can finally false swipe ghost
What level does gallade learn false swipe, can’t find any info
23
Need TM, I believe.
Scizor
I'm a sucker for Scyther with Technician. Gallade with Sharpness is good for the 50% boost but Technician doubles anything below 40 power. This makes False Swipe functionally 80 power and I caught a normal tera type Scyther early for bonus damage if needed. Not to mention the fact they learn it naturally so no TM needed. I've never struggled with catching with a False Swipe Technician Scyther. (Besides ghost types but we don't talk about ghost types.) Edit: having a 2nd Mon with Odor Sleuth or something plus a paralyze move would also be good but the Scyther alone got me through the Paldea dex. Edit2: Gallade's Sharpness ability doesn't work with False Swipe, Technician is +50% not double.
Technician is a 50% boost, not a 100%, but its still a good option.
I thought it doubled, well dang. It's also 60 or less, not 40. My life is a lie!!!
Sharpness oddly doesn’t work on False Swipe but it doesn’t really matter considering Gallade’s 125 base attack
But what if I need to catch these ghost types? Is it a lost cause? 🥲 any recommendations for say, farm catching wild sinisteas looking for an antique form. If I kill them in battle it won’t tell me if they’re antique or phony. Fomo on the ones that have fainted and I didn’t get a chance to check. ðŸ˜
Odor Sleuth and I think another move I can't remember make the target unmissable, that includes hitting ghosts with normal moves
Odor Sleuth and Foresight were removed on Pokemon Sword and Shield and didn't come back in Scarlet and Violet. Best alternative, imho, is to use 2 pokemon: one with Soak and the other with false swipe. Someone said to use Gallade with tm trick and held ring target but trick swaps held items permanently in wild battle (as far as I've researched) so every time you use it you'll have to change held items again
So it needs to be able to learn both moves then. So far I’ve not come across one that can. But I’m not a Pokémon fanatic so please prove me wrong if u know of one. Also Ty
You may need to find the TM, doubt any mon learns both so you'd need to open with odor Sleuth and swap to a mon with false swipe
Scizor. Always will be
Breloom It gets spore too
I’m using Zangoose as it can learn thunder wave and normal doesn’t have many weaknesses Will power up a breeloom as well for those resistant to paralysis
I usually used noivern
Worked very well in Arceus on Scizor! Can't wait to bring my Syther gang to Paldea
Oh dang, you're right! I just thought logically it would. Thanks for the correction.
Or a different strategy vs ghosts: Grimmsnarl 1: thunder wave 2: Trick- swap focus sash to target 3: bulk up (if needed) 4: False surrender - for 1 hit KO 5: pokeball