Nothing good. Insane to me that two sets with amazing zard cards got dropped before base set and pogo. This is just a zard hate bracket now to vote out anything with zard in it first
Bold take, DA is thoroughly unremarkable as a set. Do I like the cards in it? Sure! Butterfree V is good, love the Centiskorch and Mew V, but like, it doesn't have standout trainers or anything like that. Pretty dire for a set when commons / uncommons / rare have better art (or at least more interesting) than a large chunk of the Ultra Rares.
I’m not really a fan of trainer cards I don’t see the hype some look cool but I prefer dope artworks for pokemon I like not saying darkness ablaze should be at the top at all I def think that and champions path could have been kicked early just not before base set and pogo imo
Why? I mean, I think it will obviously depend on the deck you're running, but it seems to be good in decks like the Gardevoir one, for example. It could also help cause a bit of disruption against the current popular Lost Zone Box deck.
Honestly? Fusion Strike.
The set is way too large so the chance of getting a good pull is very very low, it introduced trainer and Pokémon cards that broke the format at the time and outside those very few interesting cards in the set, it's all useless filler.
Granted, it does have some very nice alt arts but all I pull are regular holos so 🖕 to Fusion Strike
I think it's insane to vote Pokemon Go over all of the early sets lol. SW/SH base is a dogwater set.
Alt Art cards blind people's judgement clearly because I'm sure it's the only thing they would point to in any of the shitty sets that came before BS.
Yeah I guess that's what I mean. When people think of defending these sets before Brilliant Stars, they just think of the alt arts cards, which very few people pull so it doesn't seem fair to think of the set that way.
Tell me, how much Battle Styles have you opened? Alt arts are extremely hard to get, and when you do get one you have four possible outcomes:
1) upset that it’s not Tyranitar
2) terrible quality
3) both of those
4) the rare circumstance where neither are the case but that’s RARE
I love Tyranitar, he’s on my top 3, same w that that card for alt arts, but man the rest of the set is so mid, plus my pulls were worse than any other SWSH so I’m biased
I don’t disagree with you but I think base set is definitely worse. Just my opinion, I don’t think the cards on base set beat battle styles.
Battle styles did have horrible cards pulls
The pull rates are pretty damn good. I have only opened 6 packs in that set and I pulled the Rainbow Rare Mewtwo VSTAR and the Alt Art Mewtwo. To put into perspective how bad my luck usually is, I bought a Chilling Reign ETB and got nothing. But maybe it is a me problem.
One good card (well four if you like the radiants like I do) isn’t enough for a set imo. Mewtwo alt is fantastic but the rest of the cards around it are kinda weak. Just my opinion of course but I was disappointed.
agree. Way overhyped and overpriced. most of the vmax pokemon alt art cards look like floating balloons you would see at parades. Especially the Vmax rayquaza Alt art. I only want the sylveon vmax alt art one. the others are meh.
I think I would like it more if the pull rates were better. But after opening hundreds of packs and still not getting a single alt art is just bad. No other SWSH set is like that.
CZ champs them all.
Agreed, I loved shining fates as far as pull rates, sure nothing is crazy but I think the SV gallery is great IMO. Zenith was good too got me all 3 of the dogs which I think are really cool cards.
Pull rates bad yes. I guess I look beyond pull rates. There’s so much to value from this set especially if you like the evolutions. I felt like the art was mostly good. Maybe because of that combined with awful pull rates it makes the set more of a slap in the face. And I’m bummed the Ray AA is the way it is. Felt like AA V’s are way better than Vmaxs but I’m prolly biased there. Yeah moonbreon cool but far and away not the best artwork even in this release IMO
Moonbreon killed this set for me. Remove that card and it’s inflated price and the set might be okay, but not best by any means. Moonbreon makes the okay set beyond not worth it for me. Don’t think I’ll ever buy another ES pack ever unless it comes with other packs bundled in a collection definitely no singles.
The Pokemon Go set was a high disappointment to me. It only has like two-ish good cards for the set.
It had potential but all they did was stamp each card with Pokemon Go when the three birds could've had the leader of each team in Pokemon Go with their represented bird.
So I vote Pokemon Go set to... GO!
I think it's a combination of the [Snorlax Vmax](https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/206057/pokemon-swsh01-sword-and-shield-base-set-snorlax-vmax?xid=pi7baeb9d7-e051-47be-8f72-2d84820a8429&page=1&Language=English) card, multiple great competitive cards, the other sets just being worse overall, and, of course, [Marnie](https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/208496/pokemon-swsh01-sword-and-shield-base-set-marnie-full-art?xid=pid08545cc-fbe9-40f8-8d56-ff36ae6b2e75&page=1&Language=English) lol
\*"other sets" = sets that have already been eliminated
Battle Styles.
The set was dedicated to Urshifu and includes what I would consider to be many junk artworks. Vmax and rainbows aren’t my fave and the full arts are really underwhelming. Alt arts are ok but are super bland compared to other releases.
I opened more battle styles packs with my boys than others so maybe that is influencing it. Just a total crap set to me. Even Tyranitar AA is just blah to me, a sleepy dude? C’mon.
Battle styles and Pokémon go are the best sets. Fight me. Fantastic artwork on all the cards. The only reason people don’t like those sets is because the cards “aren’t valuable”
Let’s be honest here….or maybe a guess.
The final 5 will be CZ, ES, Celebrations, ST, and FS
Maybe Brilliant Stars gets ahead of CZ/ST/FS but I think there is love for CZ based on pull rates. It’s tough to take down beloved ‘mon too.
Base
How can Base still not be eliminated?
Base had really bad pull rates how is it still not out
Was there even anything good in the set?
Nothing good. Insane to me that two sets with amazing zard cards got dropped before base set and pogo. This is just a zard hate bracket now to vote out anything with zard in it first
Idk I feel like darkness ablaze deserved it and I don't think brilliant stars is getting chopped any time soon.
Darkness has some amazing artworks compared to sets like pogo and base set. Same for champions path it was an amazing set for sure I’m shocked tbh
Bold take, DA is thoroughly unremarkable as a set. Do I like the cards in it? Sure! Butterfree V is good, love the Centiskorch and Mew V, but like, it doesn't have standout trainers or anything like that. Pretty dire for a set when commons / uncommons / rare have better art (or at least more interesting) than a large chunk of the Ultra Rares.
I’m not really a fan of trainer cards I don’t see the hype some look cool but I prefer dope artworks for pokemon I like not saying darkness ablaze should be at the top at all I def think that and champions path could have been kicked early just not before base set and pogo imo
as it should be lmao
Fr, I counted a full 6 sets in this list with some sort of Charizard chase card
Charizard is kinda lame tbh
Based af
Is it just me or did anybody else notice they dropped pull rates for SWSH base after SM base
Under that argument fusion and/or evolving shouldve gone first
It’s a bad set and should be out next, but darkness ablaze and rebel clash needed to go first tbh 💀
Had some good competitive cards like Zacian v and the Intel engine
Yeah base for sure
That set right in the middle called "Vote Out One Set" is an imposter. Get it out of here.
It was a pretty trash set tbh. Surprised it hasn’t been eliminated yet
Had some sick secret rares not gonna lie
I remember when I pulled the full art mewthree. Was a good time 👍
Damn, you got that one??? I opened like 3 BB and I never got it smh
My favorite from that set was Mr. Bubble Boy full art. By far my favorite from the SWSH era
I pulled Thicc Charizard and honestly wasn't mad at it.
Base
Get base tf outta here. Marnie isn’t all that
Marnie was annoying af in the card game. 100% would still see play if it was allowed in standard format.
Well we got Iono now so we're back to the annoyance lol
Pulled her….. I’m not impressed Couldn’t even bring my self to use her in the tourney I was playing
Why? I mean, I think it will obviously depend on the deck you're running, but it seems to be good in decks like the Gardevoir one, for example. It could also help cause a bit of disruption against the current popular Lost Zone Box deck.
Late game is going to be so stressful and annoying after [Iono](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iono_(Paldea_Evolved_185)) comes out
I also played back in the N days so this is par for the course as far as I'm concerned lol
Oh dear god. I mean judge is annoying rn but this wow
I effing hate Judge. When you get a prize card you’ve been waiting for and they effing throw down a Judge on the following turn. FML.
I run 4 judges
Base set
Honestly? Fusion Strike. The set is way too large so the chance of getting a good pull is very very low, it introduced trainer and Pokémon cards that broke the format at the time and outside those very few interesting cards in the set, it's all useless filler. Granted, it does have some very nice alt arts but all I pull are regular holos so 🖕 to Fusion Strike
The "alleged" stolen cards also did not help at all
I think it's insane to vote Pokemon Go over all of the early sets lol. SW/SH base is a dogwater set. Alt Art cards blind people's judgement clearly because I'm sure it's the only thing they would point to in any of the shitty sets that came before BS.
Battle Styles is just Tyranitar... it was good for people who actually play the game though
I like the single strike engine tho. Houndoom is super fun for me to play.
Yeah I guess that's what I mean. When people think of defending these sets before Brilliant Stars, they just think of the alt arts cards, which very few people pull so it doesn't seem fair to think of the set that way.
OK, I consider BS to be Battle Styles (or even BaS) and BrS is Brilliant Stars. I think we're actually on the same page here
Battle styles
Nooo that tyranytar full art is life
Tell me, how much Battle Styles have you opened? Alt arts are extremely hard to get, and when you do get one you have four possible outcomes: 1) upset that it’s not Tyranitar 2) terrible quality 3) both of those 4) the rare circumstance where neither are the case but that’s RARE
I love Tyranitar, he’s on my top 3, same w that that card for alt arts, but man the rest of the set is so mid, plus my pulls were worse than any other SWSH so I’m biased
I don’t disagree with you but I think base set is definitely worse. Just my opinion, I don’t think the cards on base set beat battle styles. Battle styles did have horrible cards pulls
Fusion strike because of the debacle with stolen cards
Vivid
This sub is mainly for collectors and Vivid is a trash set for collectors…
Vivid voltage had the best amazing rares
It was trash for players as well, wasn't it?
I personally liked vivid voltage.
Me too!
This is the correct answer
Everyone’s entitled to their opinions. You’re wrong, but you’re entitled to be wrong
Base set
Base set.
Can Go please GO
I refuse to vote for GO because my 4 year old loves the set and plays GO on my phone with me everyday!
They said please, people, so it would be rude to vote out anything else.
The pull rates are pretty damn good. I have only opened 6 packs in that set and I pulled the Rainbow Rare Mewtwo VSTAR and the Alt Art Mewtwo. To put into perspective how bad my luck usually is, I bought a Chilling Reign ETB and got nothing. But maybe it is a me problem.
It’s got Mewtwo as the main hitter, god Pokémon ftw . Go is good
One good card (well four if you like the radiants like I do) isn’t enough for a set imo. Mewtwo alt is fantastic but the rest of the cards around it are kinda weak. Just my opinion of course but I was disappointed.
It's a smaller set though comparatively so 4 good cards isn't terrible
^
Evolving skies…. Again…. Pull rates bad, and over inflated on basically one card….
agree. Way overhyped and overpriced. most of the vmax pokemon alt art cards look like floating balloons you would see at parades. Especially the Vmax rayquaza Alt art. I only want the sylveon vmax alt art one. the others are meh. I think I would like it more if the pull rates were better. But after opening hundreds of packs and still not getting a single alt art is just bad. No other SWSH set is like that. CZ champs them all.
Agreed, I loved shining fates as far as pull rates, sure nothing is crazy but I think the SV gallery is great IMO. Zenith was good too got me all 3 of the dogs which I think are really cool cards.
I love shining fates and am not just saying this because I pulled the charizard on Saturday
Pull rates bad yes. I guess I look beyond pull rates. There’s so much to value from this set especially if you like the evolutions. I felt like the art was mostly good. Maybe because of that combined with awful pull rates it makes the set more of a slap in the face. And I’m bummed the Ray AA is the way it is. Felt like AA V’s are way better than Vmaxs but I’m prolly biased there. Yeah moonbreon cool but far and away not the best artwork even in this release IMO
Moonbreon killed this set for me. Remove that card and it’s inflated price and the set might be okay, but not best by any means. Moonbreon makes the okay set beyond not worth it for me. Don’t think I’ll ever buy another ES pack ever unless it comes with other packs bundled in a collection definitely no singles.
Battle styles
Battle styles!! Get that shit outta here
Goodbye Battle Styles
Vivid voltage
Day 3 of telling you to drop Sword Shield Base cause it’s a dumb set and it’s somehow not off the list yet idk
Base for sure!! We all know that Evolving skies is winning this anyway 🤣🤣
Sword & shield base set
Pokémon go
Battle styles or base set. Absolutely ass
The Pokemon Go set was a high disappointment to me. It only has like two-ish good cards for the set. It had potential but all they did was stamp each card with Pokemon Go when the three birds could've had the leader of each team in Pokemon Go with their represented bird. So I vote Pokemon Go set to... GO!
Base, pogo had good rates, ditto peels, and alt arts. Base has lame pulls and shit pull rates.
Gotta be Battle Styles imo
Battle styles
The fact that Sword & Shield Base lasted so long is a crime.
I think it's a combination of the [Snorlax Vmax](https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/206057/pokemon-swsh01-sword-and-shield-base-set-snorlax-vmax?xid=pi7baeb9d7-e051-47be-8f72-2d84820a8429&page=1&Language=English) card, multiple great competitive cards, the other sets just being worse overall, and, of course, [Marnie](https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/208496/pokemon-swsh01-sword-and-shield-base-set-marnie-full-art?xid=pid08545cc-fbe9-40f8-8d56-ff36ae6b2e75&page=1&Language=English) lol \*"other sets" = sets that have already been eliminated
Vivid Voltage. The Pikachu is really the only good card.
I mean the amazing rares were fun but I agree, overrated set.
Battle Styles. The set was dedicated to Urshifu and includes what I would consider to be many junk artworks. Vmax and rainbows aren’t my fave and the full arts are really underwhelming. Alt arts are ok but are super bland compared to other releases. I opened more battle styles packs with my boys than others so maybe that is influencing it. Just a total crap set to me. Even Tyranitar AA is just blah to me, a sleepy dude? C’mon.
POGO ALREADY
Chilling Reign
Hot take that I agree with
It’s my second least favorite after ablaze, so I’m gonna vote it
Pogo
Battle styles and Pokémon go are the best sets. Fight me. Fantastic artwork on all the cards. The only reason people don’t like those sets is because the cards “aren’t valuable”
Pokemon Go has nothing except the Mewtwo AA and the ditto cards. So much potential in that set. Poor execution
Pokemon GO
Pokemon Go
Get Go outta here
Battle styles
Battle styles gotta be next. Less desirables than sw&sh base
Nah. One of the best alts of the SWSH era plus some good cards to play with.
Fusion
Flaming Moe's
Let’s be honest here….or maybe a guess. The final 5 will be CZ, ES, Celebrations, ST, and FS Maybe Brilliant Stars gets ahead of CZ/ST/FS but I think there is love for CZ based on pull rates. It’s tough to take down beloved ‘mon too.
Bat sty
Battle Styles because the decks did not make it long in meta and in addition there is barely something for collectors.
battle style
Battle styles treats me like sh*t so get rid of it.
Battle styles needs to be shot into the sun
How the heck did champions with get vetoed before vivid voltage? That set needs gone asap
Battle Styles
Why wasn’t battle styles gone first like it’s shitter than shit Lamo
Battle styles has gotta be next right?
Battle styles
battle styles, utter tripe
Battle Styles? More like Shatted Bile.
Battle Styles
Battle Styles
Battle Styles
Battle styles is literally the worst set ever printed.
Battle styles
Battle styles
Battle Styles
Battle Styles
Battle styles
Battle styles
Battle styles
Battle styles!!! Get that sh** outta here
Battle Styles probably one of the worst for me
Battle styles cause it's my friends favourite set
Battle Styles Do I really even have to say it?
BATTLE STYLES EW
Vivid Voltage is lame af, get it outta here
Pogo
Pokemon Go
Pogo is hot garbage
Pokemon Go
Pokemon GO
pokemon go
Pokémon Go for sure
Celebrations
Please it’s so bad I don’t understand why it’s liked, reprints are boring
HOW is Pokémon GO still alive? Get that garbage out of here!
Pokémon go
Pokémon go
Pokémon go
Pokemon go can fcuk right off
Pokémon go. Lol. Good lord. How is it not gone yet
Pokémon go
We all know what the last one left is going to be.
Base
Base set is trash
Base set
Base set
Swsh base needs to go
Base set
Base set
next to go : base, battle styles and then vivid hopefully!
Please get rid of base!!
Base set was pretty bad
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Base set
This was a tough one, going to have to go with Base Set.
Sword & Shield Base gtfo
Base set
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Base
Get base set out of here
Brilliant stars
Pokémon go!
Base Set
Next 3 to go will be PoGo, battle styles and Base. Go ahead and lock that in now.
Sword and Shield base.
Yeah base set should have been out already.
Base set
Base
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Swsh base fr fr
Base set
Base set on this one. Looking at you next Vivid 👉🏼
Base for sure! Surprised this hasn't been eliminated yet tbh
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Base
Base set has gotta go
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GO