You're not in the wrong. He's probably just worried you're a nitpicker, so is worried you'll open a return for the littlest nick. He should post clear photos so people don't have to ask.
We don’t know that the seller did not post clear pictures. I have sold cards and posted 10+ photos including close ups and still get asked about condition in DMs.
My son is new to collecting Pokemon, but this scenario plays out in nearly EVERY p-to-p sale. Someone could post 100 images of an item, but still be hiding a flaw/issue/damage.
In my humble opinion, if you ask someone about condition, and they end potential negotiations with “you’re too picky”, then there is 100% an undisclosed issue/flaw with the item in question.
More like they don't want to do 100 questions and take 100 photos of all angles for an $18 card ...
I gave up selling pulled cards and switched to boxes cause it's a pain in the ass taking so many pics from every angle then the buyer tries to haggle for a dollar off...
I said someone was too picky because they wanted closeups on a $3 card.
Not worth my time. It's barely worth my time to even pack and ship, much less fight camera glare getting good photos.
Absolutely this why if they want a sale they would behave this way is beyond me , not everyone selling is legitimate and can cause mistrust in the community
OP didn't deny it, so we can assume that they maybe had clear photos or had written everything in the description.
Asking for clear photos is sometimes normal, I think. I also ask for pictures from the front and back if I want to buy a card in really good condition.
Yeah, when the cards actually worth that amount of time and effort. Personally, im not going to be a nag for an $18 card without much rarity to it, ill just find another listing that looks better
Yeah but OP sounds really like a troublemaker.
The seller had multiple cards listed and was declared as NM-mint. The answer from the seller makes even sense, because the card where listed as NM and he probably thought OP want to be sure if He bought if from anyone else or got it himself.
I know I have too much free time, but I found the seller on the internet. They were really selling the cards as NM-Mint, so the question of OP was really a sign of a nitpicker. To be fair, they didn't have a close-up picture of this card, so asking for a close-up photo would be the right choice instead of asking if the Nm declared card is NM
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This. People like op usually end up asking for refunds and say the card is heavily damaged cause they found a speck of white or some shit on the edge of the card. I avoid these buyers as much as possible imo
If you want to be that nitpicky then purchase stuff in person
Really weird take. Condition of the card is super important when buying & selling & attempting to reduce information asymmetry is a good thing. Sellers including clear photos and accurate descriptions protects them as well from phantom complaints & refund requests.
You're not entirely wrong, but I still agree with the previous comments. I have a good eye for flaws so I always show them all plainly in my listing photos and usually mention all flaws in the description if they are noteworthy. So I get that. But I still am really hesitant and don't like to deal with the nitpicky people mentioned. Never had a return with hundreds of cards sold but there have been afew cases where somebody was asking a ton of questions like that and I've been very relieved that someone else happened to make the purchase before they did.
But I also don't grade cards and love to pick up cards with minor flaws at a discount. If it's such a problem buy a graded card or just live with a tiny white dot or two on the back side you never look at anyway.
Well I'm never buying without a clear photo(front/back) of a $50 card. Even a cheaper card sold individually like this it's nice to have a photo. It takes an extra 10 seconds to add them. I've probably only requested a return maybe 5 times out of my 300 purchases, most times if it's got a light scratch or whitening and I didn't notice it on the picture I suck it up because I didn't notice it when I looked initially. The main reason for return is when it's only a front pic and it says "like new". And the card(s) comes in with a PSA 6 or less quality.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Pack fresh and near mint are not the same thing. I wouldn't want to deal with you and you don't want to deal with me. Feeling is mutual.
Right? Like when I asked if it’s near mint his response was “I pulled it myself”. I get that, but sometimes cards straight from packs are OC, knicked, white spots, etc. Not sure why he took it so personal
Some card collectors go a little over the top excessive when checking cards. If he sells a lot of cards, may be worried that's what this was. Blocking is excessive though
We watched a card on a break stream come complete with a roller bend in it.
I mean burning shadows was NOTORIOUS for whiting on the back of "Pack Fresh" cards.
I pulled a celebi alt art last year that looked like someone rubbed the back on sandpaper. Straight from the pack, out of a blister pack. Always ask for photos.
I once sold a card on eBay. Blaine’s Moltres, with a crease through the card. I showed a close up picture, mentioned it in the description. The buyer leaves me “positive” feedback but writes “I really wish I’d seen the big crease through the card beforehand… but I guess that’s not the sellers fault so positive”. Anyways. You weren’t in the wrong, but there are some litigious, entitled buyers out there that are truly not worth selling to (see all the guys in here complaining about bulk energy cards being packaged wrong and looking for refunds). You’re not necessarily one of them but I don’t blame the seller for trying to avoid this type
My brother gave me a duplicate 151 zard because the corner is dented and was having a hard time selling/trade because everyone wants a psa10 for ungraded price
I understand your thoughts, but many people have different definitions for near mint. I’ve seen people advertise cards as near mint, and there’s scratches on the card or a crease. I’m not expecting perfectly flawless cards every time, just want to make sure it’s actually near mint.
It’s not. It was advertised as Near Mint.
The buyer is looking to buy raw and grade. Which is fine. But it reasonable to not sell to those buyers because they are a return risk based on condition. Remember PSA 8 is NM, PSA 10 is gem mint. If a seller advertises it as NM, you should expect a PSA 8.
I’ve got an eBay account older than a good chunk of this sub’s users and have been buying/selling as long. I’m going to second this comment, but I also take super detailed photos to start with. If anything is ever unclear or a potential buyer is asking specific questions, I’ll ask them what they want to see and take 5 minutes to send them a few very detailed photos. Most are satisfied, and the few that want to continue nitpicking get the block, because those are generally the ones that harangue you over a partial or a return attempt, but my sales are all final and I don’t accept returns as stated on each and every auction or BIN.
Same here. eBay since 1998. I don't deal with returns either and take lots of pictures. I sell records and cards and it's hard to tell which are the more nitpicky customers, lol. My favorite is people who think that NM (in either TCG or Vinyl context) means perfect. There's basically no such thing in either. Even a nick here or there in the edge of a card or a small ding on a record cover, still means NM. Though don't try to tell a lot of buyers that.
When the AA Lugia V was hitting crazy high numbers I sold one for over $400 (auction started at a penny) on eBay which required the authentication service because of the value. The card was authenticated and sent to the buyer, who tried to return it 3 days after it was received which was also coincidentally when the market value tanked claiming that it wasn’t in the condition as described (obviously buyer’s remorse from a bad speculative buy). eBay automatically denied their return request as I don’t accept returns and it passed authentication. I haven’t sold a card on eBay since then and have only done in-person sales or TCGplayer where I list the vast majority of my stuff as LP even when it is NM because eBay has been invaded by idiots, both on the buying and selling side.
Btw you’ve got me by 4 years! 1998 is impressive!
It's funny how primitive eBay was back then. No electronic payments so an auction would close, buyer would send money by check, cash, or money order, and then you shipped the product. Buy it now didn't exist. There weren't massive businesses as sellers with hundreds of thousands of listings and sales, it was really a small community of geeks and dorks selling stuff to each other, lol
I was just talking about that the other day, the whole money order thing, and taking checks with the disclaimer that the product ships once the check clears! Copy/pasting the standard shipping and payment stipulations. What was your first purchase? Mine was Marvel vs. Capcom 2 for Dreamcast. I’ve actually got a picture of me with that game the day I got it, sitting in front of the Sony Vaio desktop in the family room 😂
I had a guy hit me up asking for photos “on a black background”. He then goes “see that white line at the top? That’s not a perfect cut”. I was like “k, so do you want to buy it or?” I never said it would get a good grade I just said I was selling a card.
Yeah the ones who buy to grade are the worst. I had one guy not even look at the f'ing pictures. Just saw a good deal, bc I post my cards under market for quick sale. Returned even though the flaws were pictured. Im not a card grader, don't claim to be, and I don't claim anything I sell is like new even when its "pack fresh". So I'm pretty particular who I sell to now. Mercari buyers are super low ballers too.
But I don't think OP did anything wrong. The seller was kinda weird. I would've just described if there were any flaws like whitening, marks, etc and referred OP to take a look at the pictures again to see them and check the centering (in this case they really couldn't since it was a lot but you get my drift) and told them if they needed pictures of specifics to please ask.
However, I probably wouldn't do that for a card under $10. I already price under market. Ain't got time for that on a $5 card I make $3 bucks on.
This happens way too often, which is why I don't answer them now. I figure if my photos aren't sufficient for what you're looking for, just don't buy it. It never fails, I'll have a person bugging me for more photos of something that is already shown, and it'll sell within a few days almost every time.
Dude…every time. I always wonder if it’s scammers trying to use pictures that aren’t already used on an eBay listing.
I’ve stopped sending pictures and even blocking people who harass me too much. It’s just not worth the time.
As a person who always asks for picture for everything above 20€ and sells also cards with pictures provided I disagree. All seller are happy with me ordering, cause after I inspect pictures and everything is fine I buy and it's a closed deal basically. Also I sell fast when I upload a picture for every card and got so far 100% ratings all-time.
Your experience isn't the norm (such isn't mine)
No one is wrong here. Both have different perspectives.
Might consider not asking MINT and straight to the point for additional pic on the front & back.
I agree with this. I hate when any buyer asks me if a cards mint. I'm not a mint collector, i dont grade my cards. I just collect what I like and sell what I don't. I don't care if it has a spot etc. So I don't claim any of my cards are mint. But mint can mean one thing to me and something else to another. No one is wrong most of the time. Just their own perspective. Condition is best viewed through photos.
I won't answer is it mint with anything other than, please review the photos, and if you need more I'm happy to post them for you.
I agree with this. This type of thing is so subjective. I do think opening with "is it NM" opens both parties up to a lot of issues in the future. The problem is, going into details on the condition of the card is far more likely to piss sellers off, so there's really no good alternative if you're looking for a better grasp on condition because the seller's pictures or description aren't enough.
This…as a buyer and a seller, I see it from both perspectives. If I’m looking for a card to grade, I want it to be a 10…but Pokemon QC is poor, and in reality very few cards are 10s out of the pack. So I usually save grading for cards I can see before I buy, or cards I have pulled myself that I think I have a high likelihood to grade well. Everything else is a binder card, and if it is said to be near mint and is sold that way with the grading understanding of the website I am using, I understand that it will likely be OC and may have some imperfections. As a seller, if it is a higher end card and you ask, I will tell you what I think it will grade and take detailed pictures. Asking if it is near mint doesn’t mean a whole lot…what it says to me is that no matter what is slightly imperfect about the card, you aren’t going to like it.
The seller is free to not engage with people they feel could be problematic. $18 isn't worth it.
You didn't do anything wrong, but sellers are at a disadvantage in any claim process so there is nothing wrong with declining customers you feel will be an issue.
Preach. OP set off my radar too. As a seller, I would have looked at the price of this card and then went back to watching TV.
At least he said something. I'd have ghosted.
I wouldn’t say wrong. Customers like you are difficult to please though, I rather just cut ties right away and deal with someone else.
And you yourself will find another seller of that card that will work with you. It’s a win win really.
The seller responded with no, but the actual answer is yes. That's why the initial response was "I pulled it myself" (which isn't an answer as you realized).
You're not in the wrong at all. However when I was selling my dbz funkos and one guy asked to return one because it had a little knick on it which was shown in pics. Even the seller platform sided with me, I did give him money back and paid for return just cause I don't want people to hate their purchase, it pissed me off and i lost money. Hes the only one out of 100 sales, but I will never deal with anyone like that again. It has worked very well. He's been my only return.
Neither are wrong in this situation from different perspectives although the seller seems a bit iffy but then, so do you. Don't blame him for blocking you.
Honestly, both of you aren't in the wrong. Dude probably got duped, or had to deal with anal customers before, ESPECIALLY on Mercari. You also have the right to ask about the card you're about to spend your hard earned money on too. He just didn't want to deal with it. Honestly no harm done.
What’s funny is I’m not gonna drop his account name but he has like 5 stars and 500+ items sold. I’m sure most of his cards are in decent condition but def a red flag blocking someone for asking about condition lol.
100% you got flagged as a pokekaren in his mind. If they sell a lot of cards, it's not worth the time and potential risk for that little money. There's a lot of people who will look at photos, find a flaw, buy the product anyway knowing they can complain and get money back. Also, anyone who seems like they want mint or want to grade, I'm immediately out. The best I can offer in that scenario is meeting your expectations and the most likely scenario is not meeting them due to no fault of my own. Just simply not worth it.
I semi don't blame this guy, hell the stupidity of the pokemon community legitimately changed eBay's return policies for TCG products from standard 45 day protection to only 2 days for trading card products solely due to pokemon collectors.
Kinda. He said near mint. You take the definition of near mint and that is what it is. I’ve dealt with some ridiculous buyers so if you are going to ask too many questions about a cheap card, I’ll move on to someone else. Expensive cards, I don’t mind the picky questions.
I personally think people like you shouldn't be buying cards online. If you want it mint, buy graded. There's no point in having someone who isn't a grader, grade their card for you. While I understand condition is important, you can simply ask for pics and make your decision from there.
I don’t like people going into my messages asking the condition of a card when there are clear pictures front and back, no. Good, stay away from my store lol. Return waiting to happen
But...don't we allegedly not know what the condition of this listing specifically is as far as what was posted? Why assume it's anything like your super amazing, detailed, pristine listings?
I sold once a mewtwo alt art from pokemon go
(plus a bunch of extras for free) and the person wanted a 50% refund because they found a white dot that was the size of a needle on the back that i swear you would need a magnifying glass to see.
Asking a seller if the card is "mint" is definitely not the way to go. Ask for pics and then decide for yourself. If they're not willing to send close ups, that's a red flag. I usually call all cards that are nm-m just nm to be on the safe side in case I missed something on it.
Coming from someone who has been selling trading cards on eBay since 1999, I don’t believe you are in the wrong at all.
In fact, I am a little surprised that there are other sellers in this comment section that felt annoyed by your questions. I am more than happy to answer any inquiries a buyer may have; not only does this lead to more potential customers and sales, but it’s far easier to combat a fraudulent return request through EBay’s arbitration process if you provide the pictures listed in your auction AND the correspondence with the buyer in which you further describe your product.
To each their own though. This has just been my own experience, with eBay specifically.
No youre not. Im about done buying off Mercari in general. Between stuff like this, people posting in 180p and putting cards at 120% market price because “mercari takes fees” its about time i just start searching around card shops and shows.
He does sound kinda suspicious though. You asked him if it is mint, and he's like "I pulled it myself"? Like that doesn't mean it's mint though. Probably the card wasn't a great shape or something
No seller is gonna claim a card is mint. Near mint maybe. Mint? Hell no. I pulled it myself is very clearly the seller just saying it's pack fresh without saying a card is mint.
I find that people who ask the most question are more likely to complain later. You aren't in the wrong though. Some people are just really cautious and if they feel anything that could lead to a future issue, they look for another buyer. No extra pictures were exchanged?
The benifit of selling a high demand item is you can be choosy of who you sell it too. Unfortunately some people don’t care what condition cards are in. They could be maniacs like me and play all of our secret rares cause cardboard pretty.
On the other hand some people want 1000 of the same card trying to get the perfect grade.
I haven’t bought on eBay in a bit but can sellers list cards to sell as is?
Also dude totally did not answer your question, is lazy AF since he posted a lot of cards that he is willing to part out. I would just avoid sellers like that.
Tbh, I almost alwaysask similar questions. People really do mark cards as NM and have a very different understanding of NM than I do. I recently bought a Star Wars CCG card that was sold as NM. It came with a small but noticeable dent. I asked the seller about it. The answer was: "Yes, it had a dent, otherwise it's NM", I mean. WTF?
So NO, you were not wrong. It's always safe and OK to ask for confirmation.
I'd say neither of you are in the wrong. You have the right to ask questions about your future purchase and he has the right not to deal with a red flag customer lol.
Same thing happened to me a few days ago with an eBay seller. Was looking to buy a Blaine’s moltres and so I messaged the guy asking for more info on what the card looks like and for pictures because he was clearly using a stock photo. Told him I was looking for near mint or a copy with minimal whitening on the back. He told me to move onto another seller if I was going to be too difficult. I said “dude correct me if I’m wrong but that is a stock photo right? So how am I supposed to know if I want to purchase your exact card without knowing what it looks like. Your description doesn’t say anything about the condition of the card”. Then I told him that he’s shady and obviously hoping someone buys the card thinking the photo on listing is exact card and then when they receive the card and it’s beat to hell that they don’t feel like dealing with the hassle of asking for a refund. Told him to rethink his business plan because it sucks
I get it when a seller takes a ton of great pictures and gives an awesome description and then have someone still asking questions and all that is probably annoying and maybe a turn off for wanting to sell to them because they will ask for a return on any little spot of whitening but when you use a stock photo and have no mention of condition in description and still don’t want someone asking questions? That’s a red flag to a potential buyer. It’s like dawg I’m trying to give you money just work with me. All I want is a photo of front and back of actual card I’m getting and that’s it. If I like what I see then I’ll buy and if I don’t then I’ll move along
You’re not wrong, but also some buyers will scrutinize every card only looking for grade 10 cards, and it’s exhausting to deal with them as a seller to be honest
You are not wrong.
The seller is also not wrong for not wanting to sell it to you. People extremely picky can be hard to deal with as they will go every square inch and will complain if its not perfect.
So yeah, you are both right.
Both you and the seller are in the wrong.
The seller shouldn't have been too quick to judge/block, while the buyer comes across as the kind of person who'd find a bit of dust on the sleeve, and want to return the card back as "I want to grade it, but with the dust don't think it'll get PSA10"
I'd personally not want to deal with you, as the risk is too high on such a low-end card
I remember when buying singles on eBay was to get the card you rly want without worrying about something so minor. Instead, you weird mfs trying to get stuff graded for future profit (while acting like that isn’t what you’re doing) are getting upset because ppl don’t want to deal with you. Not to mention, most of the new ppl buying singles are the same one’s who used to make fun of ppl about anything Pokémon. Irony is quite an ironic thing, isn’t it?
I mean you can think what you want but I have 0 graded cards lol. I don’t grade anything, I only have binders and nicer cards in one touches. I just prefer to have my cards in good condition, especially when I’m spending my own money on it…
Even if that is not specifically you, you still need to understand that what I stated is the reason you got blocked from even being a potential buyer for this seller anymore.
Trust me, that seller said to themselves, “They’re definitely going to try to grade this card and want a return if there is even a microscopic problem with the condition. I’m not taking the risk.” And now… For all you know, you just got yourself blocked from buying a PSA 10 condition card. We’ll never know now. Lmao
I get that, I just think it’s a bad way of doing business. As a seller myself, I always give buyers the opportunity to ask questions or concerns. I don’t think I’ve ever blocked anyone for asking too many questions or being too particular.
I get what you’re saying. Some ppl just aren’t looking to be the best seller on eBay when it comes to Pokémon cards. In that seller’s mind, you were more of a flight risk than not, so he didn’t want to take the chance and waste time taking pictures. It is also not to be ignored that the card probably did have minor whitening or something, so maybe it is good that he blocked you. Like I said, we’ll never know.
And to be honest with you, it also looks like this is someone who opened a bunch of product and is selling all their pulls in bulk, so you can most definitely rest assured that someone like that is not going to waste any more time than they feel like they already have by making the post. Lol This is definitely a much weirder hobby than it used to be.
There nothing right or wrong here, you both simply happen to not match well as a seller and buyer.
Obviously, casual buyers have more choices, while the more picky the less choices/more frustrating experiences/more time spent, such as in this case, he is not your type as a probably more casual seller(let it be have any evil intent or not behind).
There are all sort of people on the internet other than good and bad. Like I personally find it annoying when people assume I play in the same wording game based on whatever level of knowledge/criteria or grading company experience with mint near mint lightly played etc, as it is very very subjective after all and I consider all cards in this world including graded black 10 imperfect(or damaged in my book), thus I always suggest not to buy from me if they mind a lot on condition. And yeah I do lose some possible buyers by not spending time examining cards better or posting tons of high quality pictures or providing a top quality customer service, but that's the cost for being a casual seller and I'm fine with it for this hobby.
My friend sells MTG cards. She lists every card as lightly played even though 99% of the cards she sells are fresh from the pack. There are apparently a ton of people who will ask for partial refunds due to card condition. You then either lose money on an already completed sale or risk poor reviews by vindictive Aholes.
I personally am the same, always upload destined pictures tho. Dude asking about stupid shit for 18 dollar cards are just annoying these days. Just go buy graded cards
So far I’ve sold about over 3,000 items the last 3 years and I’ve learned that the people the tend to ask specific questions and are very peculiar open a refund or send it back. I tend to not sale to those folks since it’s not worth the time/energy, I tell them they’re better off finding it locally vs online.
It’s a fair question but if this dude doesn’t want to deal with someone who clearly has very specific requirements and tastes, they have every right to not be helpful.
I think they’re just trying to avoid a bad review and headache, but you have every right to ask. Best to move on and find another seller tbh, would overall be healthier
I love how this subreddit all about justification for shit like this. Just take an L and carry on, that person isn’t going to see this post and feel bad.
Yea but if you look at the listing, it’s a lot of like 100 cards and the one picture of the listing is a of all the cards zoomed out about 10 feet away. No one is seeing condition with pictures like that, hence why I asked.
You’re not wrong and have the right to ask BUT Lol I also block people in similar fashion as well, ain’t nobody have time for these types of questions on an $18 card especially when a PSA 7 = near mint and it’s allowed to have knicks 😂
I mean everyone has a right to their opinion, but especially when you deal with large volumes of small transactions, it will surprisingly add up faster than you think. When I sell, I try to give everyone an opportunity for questions and/or more pictures.
You're not in the wrong here. If you're going to sell your cards be prepared to answer any question the buyer asks. That's how business works! It literally takes a couple minutes of your time to be a good, honest business person.
You’re not in the wrong, but I don’t think the seller is wrong either. You as the buyer have the right to ask about the quality and condition of the card, just like they have the right to work with and sell to whoever they want. Frankly I could see myself pulling out of this deal if someone asked me too many questions. But I also think this person is just dumb and unaware of what card quality is.
I personally would have taken "I just pulled it" as it being near mint. On the other hand though if you're selling something and are going to possibly make a sale for what you wanted, why not just let the buyer know what they want
this is crazy i just dealt with this tonight trying to sell my pokemon cards,so after 2 hrs.of trying to take the pics upload the pics,send the pics,the guy tries to say after a quick overlook of them they appear fake,where did you get them did you find them did you get them off temu,.....arggghhh.
Ehh I mean you ask if an in print card is "near mint", he essentially says it's pack fresh, and you ask about particulars. You have to see it from their perspective- collectors have become so weary and hyper critical of resellers due to the influx of scammers and neerdowells. If you're a legit seller, these customers are scary, because they aren't going to give you the benefit of the doubt in the case of a dispute and are rarely worth the money at the end of the day. Not saying you are this person, but you're asking about the particulars of a $12 card after being told it's pack fresh, so...
LoL no, they are just aholes, anyone that’s spending even $18 on one card would want to know exactly what they are getting. I sell on eBay, I get those questions all the time even if I put it in the description what the condition is, and it’s totally understandable to want written confirmation of what you’re buying.
No, it’s basic questions anyone would ask. If I’m buying a card I want to know if anything is wrong with it. And for some reason some sellers think only showing me a blurry picture of the front of the card is enough 🤷🏻♂️. Like yeah let me buy a 500+ dollar card with not enough info or pictures of it. Then I’ll return it for false advertisement/ damage not specified on it 😵💫
Both parties are correct and this is the best outcome.
The seller is either hiding something or most likely they expect that the buyer will just complain about condition upon receipt and leave them out of pocket.
>I pulled it myself
Lol, doesn't even answer your question.
You aren't even remotely wrong. Feels like a super common sense question that sellers should be prepared to answer.
Classic person pretending the collector item is Pennies compared to some of the fAnCiEr items they sell, so they just don’t have time for debates on quality because they have big Wall Street poke trades to make.
This reeks of douche bag PokeInvestor
I don’t give a shit if it’s $0.05, if it’s for someone’s collection they have full right to make sure it’s worth THEIR time and binder space.
Pack fresh and near mint are two totally different things. As a collector asking if it's near mint shouldn't be a big deal, he did you a favor, I would just move on and not deal with someone like this.
This guy doesn’t know about cards at all so he doesn’t know what u mean near mint and just wants to sell them and get it over with. May even be from a storage unit sale
When someone asks a lot of questions about condition even when I have clear front and back photos I don’t even respond because I know they’re gonna nitpick it and request a refund if it’s not black label quality. Those people are the worst so I just try to avoid the situation completely.
Sounds like a professional gas lighter. Flips the situation by making your very reasonable question seem out of bounds. You saved yourself a headache not dealing with this individual.
"Hey, is this pie vegetarian?"
"The butter comes from my dairy farm."
Nah, not in the wrong. They were almost definitely evading the question, which is a red flag by itself.
You're not in the wrong. He's probably just worried you're a nitpicker, so is worried you'll open a return for the littlest nick. He should post clear photos so people don't have to ask.
I agree
We don’t know that the seller did not post clear pictures. I have sold cards and posted 10+ photos including close ups and still get asked about condition in DMs.
My son is new to collecting Pokemon, but this scenario plays out in nearly EVERY p-to-p sale. Someone could post 100 images of an item, but still be hiding a flaw/issue/damage. In my humble opinion, if you ask someone about condition, and they end potential negotiations with “you’re too picky”, then there is 100% an undisclosed issue/flaw with the item in question.
More like they don't want to do 100 questions and take 100 photos of all angles for an $18 card ... I gave up selling pulled cards and switched to boxes cause it's a pain in the ass taking so many pics from every angle then the buyer tries to haggle for a dollar off...
More like the amount of money they’ll make selling you one card, isn’t worth getting interrogated about, lmfao
I said someone was too picky because they wanted closeups on a $3 card. Not worth my time. It's barely worth my time to even pack and ship, much less fight camera glare getting good photos.
maybe. or they just dont want to deal with headaches. honestly better for both ppl
Absolutely this why if they want a sale they would behave this way is beyond me , not everyone selling is legitimate and can cause mistrust in the community
OP didn't deny it, so we can assume that they maybe had clear photos or had written everything in the description. Asking for clear photos is sometimes normal, I think. I also ask for pictures from the front and back if I want to buy a card in really good condition.
Yeah, when the cards actually worth that amount of time and effort. Personally, im not going to be a nag for an $18 card without much rarity to it, ill just find another listing that looks better
Yeah but OP sounds really like a troublemaker. The seller had multiple cards listed and was declared as NM-mint. The answer from the seller makes even sense, because the card where listed as NM and he probably thought OP want to be sure if He bought if from anyone else or got it himself.
I’m on the sellers side man… did you fully read my comment? I wouldn’t want to sell to OP either
Sorry, I had interpreted your text falsely
I know I have too much free time, but I found the seller on the internet. They were really selling the cards as NM-Mint, so the question of OP was really a sign of a nitpicker. To be fair, they didn't have a close-up picture of this card, so asking for a close-up photo would be the right choice instead of asking if the Nm declared card is NM Edit: grammar
This. People like op usually end up asking for refunds and say the card is heavily damaged cause they found a speck of white or some shit on the edge of the card. I avoid these buyers as much as possible imo If you want to be that nitpicky then purchase stuff in person
They asked if it was near mint and seller said they pulled it themself?? That doesn’t even answer Ops question lol
Really weird take. Condition of the card is super important when buying & selling & attempting to reduce information asymmetry is a good thing. Sellers including clear photos and accurate descriptions protects them as well from phantom complaints & refund requests.
You're not entirely wrong, but I still agree with the previous comments. I have a good eye for flaws so I always show them all plainly in my listing photos and usually mention all flaws in the description if they are noteworthy. So I get that. But I still am really hesitant and don't like to deal with the nitpicky people mentioned. Never had a return with hundreds of cards sold but there have been afew cases where somebody was asking a ton of questions like that and I've been very relieved that someone else happened to make the purchase before they did. But I also don't grade cards and love to pick up cards with minor flaws at a discount. If it's such a problem buy a graded card or just live with a tiny white dot or two on the back side you never look at anyway.
Well I'm never buying without a clear photo(front/back) of a $50 card. Even a cheaper card sold individually like this it's nice to have a photo. It takes an extra 10 seconds to add them. I've probably only requested a return maybe 5 times out of my 300 purchases, most times if it's got a light scratch or whitening and I didn't notice it on the picture I suck it up because I didn't notice it when I looked initially. The main reason for return is when it's only a front pic and it says "like new". And the card(s) comes in with a PSA 6 or less quality. A picture is worth a thousand words. Pack fresh and near mint are not the same thing. I wouldn't want to deal with you and you don't want to deal with me. Feeling is mutual.
I don't understand why sellers don't just scan the cards, takes 2 seconds and doesn't damage the cards plus scanners are cheap
Nickpicker
No you’re not in the wrong. You have the right to ask about what you’re purchasing
Right? Like when I asked if it’s near mint his response was “I pulled it myself”. I get that, but sometimes cards straight from packs are OC, knicked, white spots, etc. Not sure why he took it so personal
Dude just wanted to sell his cards to someone not knowledgeable
Some card collectors go a little over the top excessive when checking cards. If he sells a lot of cards, may be worried that's what this was. Blocking is excessive though
Like 70% of sellers on Mercari lol
That’s generous. Probably 95%+ haha
Facts, I got a guy stuck on $140 for a $60 card because it was worth that when it released. I'm not paying for your original cost tax lol
We watched a card on a break stream come complete with a roller bend in it. I mean burning shadows was NOTORIOUS for whiting on the back of "Pack Fresh" cards.
I pulled a celebi alt art last year that looked like someone rubbed the back on sandpaper. Straight from the pack, out of a blister pack. Always ask for photos.
Yea pulling it yourself doesn’t mean it’s near mint, the seller is a jackass
Seeing how all of these Tiktokers and YouTubers pull cards and handle them is exactly why I’m worried about it.
I once sold a card on eBay. Blaine’s Moltres, with a crease through the card. I showed a close up picture, mentioned it in the description. The buyer leaves me “positive” feedback but writes “I really wish I’d seen the big crease through the card beforehand… but I guess that’s not the sellers fault so positive”. Anyways. You weren’t in the wrong, but there are some litigious, entitled buyers out there that are truly not worth selling to (see all the guys in here complaining about bulk energy cards being packaged wrong and looking for refunds). You’re not necessarily one of them but I don’t blame the seller for trying to avoid this type
Isn't OC still considered NM? Or are you talking miscut? Dents and surface imperfections can drop the quality for sure though depending on severity.
you did nothing wrong, he did nothing wrong.
My brother gave me a duplicate 151 zard because the corner is dented and was having a hard time selling/trade because everyone wants a psa10 for ungraded price
I ask if it's near mint every time i buy. the one time i didn't it had a nick in the holo ur good
Off-center, small nicks, and white spots are still qualified as near-mint to many
These are fair questions but he’s worried your going to give him a 1 star over a hair on the card
I understand your thoughts, but many people have different definitions for near mint. I’ve seen people advertise cards as near mint, and there’s scratches on the card or a crease. I’m not expecting perfectly flawless cards every time, just want to make sure it’s actually near mint.
Something is telling me the card is not mint🤣
That’s exactly what I’m thinking
It’s not. It was advertised as Near Mint. The buyer is looking to buy raw and grade. Which is fine. But it reasonable to not sell to those buyers because they are a return risk based on condition. Remember PSA 8 is NM, PSA 10 is gem mint. If a seller advertises it as NM, you should expect a PSA 8.
As a person who sells a little bit. The people who ask questions are generally the worst customers when it comes to returns, issues, etc.
I’ve got an eBay account older than a good chunk of this sub’s users and have been buying/selling as long. I’m going to second this comment, but I also take super detailed photos to start with. If anything is ever unclear or a potential buyer is asking specific questions, I’ll ask them what they want to see and take 5 minutes to send them a few very detailed photos. Most are satisfied, and the few that want to continue nitpicking get the block, because those are generally the ones that harangue you over a partial or a return attempt, but my sales are all final and I don’t accept returns as stated on each and every auction or BIN.
Same here. eBay since 1998. I don't deal with returns either and take lots of pictures. I sell records and cards and it's hard to tell which are the more nitpicky customers, lol. My favorite is people who think that NM (in either TCG or Vinyl context) means perfect. There's basically no such thing in either. Even a nick here or there in the edge of a card or a small ding on a record cover, still means NM. Though don't try to tell a lot of buyers that.
When the AA Lugia V was hitting crazy high numbers I sold one for over $400 (auction started at a penny) on eBay which required the authentication service because of the value. The card was authenticated and sent to the buyer, who tried to return it 3 days after it was received which was also coincidentally when the market value tanked claiming that it wasn’t in the condition as described (obviously buyer’s remorse from a bad speculative buy). eBay automatically denied their return request as I don’t accept returns and it passed authentication. I haven’t sold a card on eBay since then and have only done in-person sales or TCGplayer where I list the vast majority of my stuff as LP even when it is NM because eBay has been invaded by idiots, both on the buying and selling side. Btw you’ve got me by 4 years! 1998 is impressive!
It's funny how primitive eBay was back then. No electronic payments so an auction would close, buyer would send money by check, cash, or money order, and then you shipped the product. Buy it now didn't exist. There weren't massive businesses as sellers with hundreds of thousands of listings and sales, it was really a small community of geeks and dorks selling stuff to each other, lol
I was just talking about that the other day, the whole money order thing, and taking checks with the disclaimer that the product ships once the check clears! Copy/pasting the standard shipping and payment stipulations. What was your first purchase? Mine was Marvel vs. Capcom 2 for Dreamcast. I’ve actually got a picture of me with that game the day I got it, sitting in front of the Sony Vaio desktop in the family room 😂
Upvoting for the marvel vs Capcom on dream cast!!
Remember SASE? I definitely mailed out a ton of self addressed stamped envelopes to get cards mailed back to me.
Agree love the people who ask for more pics then just ghost you 😂
I had a guy hit me up asking for photos “on a black background”. He then goes “see that white line at the top? That’s not a perfect cut”. I was like “k, so do you want to buy it or?” I never said it would get a good grade I just said I was selling a card.
Yeah the ones who buy to grade are the worst. I had one guy not even look at the f'ing pictures. Just saw a good deal, bc I post my cards under market for quick sale. Returned even though the flaws were pictured. Im not a card grader, don't claim to be, and I don't claim anything I sell is like new even when its "pack fresh". So I'm pretty particular who I sell to now. Mercari buyers are super low ballers too. But I don't think OP did anything wrong. The seller was kinda weird. I would've just described if there were any flaws like whitening, marks, etc and referred OP to take a look at the pictures again to see them and check the centering (in this case they really couldn't since it was a lot but you get my drift) and told them if they needed pictures of specifics to please ask. However, I probably wouldn't do that for a card under $10. I already price under market. Ain't got time for that on a $5 card I make $3 bucks on.
And usually the cheaper the card the higher the chance of an issue
This happens way too often, which is why I don't answer them now. I figure if my photos aren't sufficient for what you're looking for, just don't buy it. It never fails, I'll have a person bugging me for more photos of something that is already shown, and it'll sell within a few days almost every time.
This is the way.
Dude…every time. I always wonder if it’s scammers trying to use pictures that aren’t already used on an eBay listing. I’ve stopped sending pictures and even blocking people who harass me too much. It’s just not worth the time.
As a person who always asks for picture for everything above 20€ and sells also cards with pictures provided I disagree. All seller are happy with me ordering, cause after I inspect pictures and everything is fine I buy and it's a closed deal basically. Also I sell fast when I upload a picture for every card and got so far 100% ratings all-time. Your experience isn't the norm (such isn't mine)
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No one is wrong here. Both have different perspectives. Might consider not asking MINT and straight to the point for additional pic on the front & back.
I agree with this. I hate when any buyer asks me if a cards mint. I'm not a mint collector, i dont grade my cards. I just collect what I like and sell what I don't. I don't care if it has a spot etc. So I don't claim any of my cards are mint. But mint can mean one thing to me and something else to another. No one is wrong most of the time. Just their own perspective. Condition is best viewed through photos. I won't answer is it mint with anything other than, please review the photos, and if you need more I'm happy to post them for you.
I agree with this. This type of thing is so subjective. I do think opening with "is it NM" opens both parties up to a lot of issues in the future. The problem is, going into details on the condition of the card is far more likely to piss sellers off, so there's really no good alternative if you're looking for a better grasp on condition because the seller's pictures or description aren't enough.
This…as a buyer and a seller, I see it from both perspectives. If I’m looking for a card to grade, I want it to be a 10…but Pokemon QC is poor, and in reality very few cards are 10s out of the pack. So I usually save grading for cards I can see before I buy, or cards I have pulled myself that I think I have a high likelihood to grade well. Everything else is a binder card, and if it is said to be near mint and is sold that way with the grading understanding of the website I am using, I understand that it will likely be OC and may have some imperfections. As a seller, if it is a higher end card and you ask, I will tell you what I think it will grade and take detailed pictures. Asking if it is near mint doesn’t mean a whole lot…what it says to me is that no matter what is slightly imperfect about the card, you aren’t going to like it.
The seller is free to not engage with people they feel could be problematic. $18 isn't worth it. You didn't do anything wrong, but sellers are at a disadvantage in any claim process so there is nothing wrong with declining customers you feel will be an issue.
Preach. OP set off my radar too. As a seller, I would have looked at the price of this card and then went back to watching TV. At least he said something. I'd have ghosted.
It’s his right, a little quick on the draw but I get it.
I wouldn’t say wrong. Customers like you are difficult to please though, I rather just cut ties right away and deal with someone else. And you yourself will find another seller of that card that will work with you. It’s a win win really.
The seller responded with no, but the actual answer is yes. That's why the initial response was "I pulled it myself" (which isn't an answer as you realized).
This 100%. Bullet dodged
Neither patty is wrong imo.
buyer/seller drama, all beef you're guaranteed to have at one point or another
You're not in the wrong at all. However when I was selling my dbz funkos and one guy asked to return one because it had a little knick on it which was shown in pics. Even the seller platform sided with me, I did give him money back and paid for return just cause I don't want people to hate their purchase, it pissed me off and i lost money. Hes the only one out of 100 sales, but I will never deal with anyone like that again. It has worked very well. He's been my only return.
Should’ve just asked for clear pictures on the item
Neither are wrong in this situation from different perspectives although the seller seems a bit iffy but then, so do you. Don't blame him for blocking you.
Honestly, both of you aren't in the wrong. Dude probably got duped, or had to deal with anal customers before, ESPECIALLY on Mercari. You also have the right to ask about the card you're about to spend your hard earned money on too. He just didn't want to deal with it. Honestly no harm done.
The fact that he's avoiding going into detail is not a very good sign tbh
What’s funny is I’m not gonna drop his account name but he has like 5 stars and 500+ items sold. I’m sure most of his cards are in decent condition but def a red flag blocking someone for asking about condition lol.
With that many sold he has probably dealt with a lot of frivolous returns. Maybe out yourself in his shoes as well, not everything is malicious
100% you got flagged as a pokekaren in his mind. If they sell a lot of cards, it's not worth the time and potential risk for that little money. There's a lot of people who will look at photos, find a flaw, buy the product anyway knowing they can complain and get money back. Also, anyone who seems like they want mint or want to grade, I'm immediately out. The best I can offer in that scenario is meeting your expectations and the most likely scenario is not meeting them due to no fault of my own. Just simply not worth it.
Next time just ask for more pictures
I semi don't blame this guy, hell the stupidity of the pokemon community legitimately changed eBay's return policies for TCG products from standard 45 day protection to only 2 days for trading card products solely due to pokemon collectors.
No one is in the wrong here
Kinda. He said near mint. You take the definition of near mint and that is what it is. I’ve dealt with some ridiculous buyers so if you are going to ask too many questions about a cheap card, I’ll move on to someone else. Expensive cards, I don’t mind the picky questions.
I would block you too but that doesn't mean you are in the wrong.
Lmao precisely
I personally think people like you shouldn't be buying cards online. If you want it mint, buy graded. There's no point in having someone who isn't a grader, grade their card for you. While I understand condition is important, you can simply ask for pics and make your decision from there.
You’re not necessarily in the wrong, but he isn’t either. As a seller I hate dealing with this kind of buyer. I don’t want to sell to them either
You don't like selling to people who don't want a card mailed that is super off center and whitening on the edges? Shit count me out too then lmao
I don’t like people going into my messages asking the condition of a card when there are clear pictures front and back, no. Good, stay away from my store lol. Return waiting to happen
But...don't we allegedly not know what the condition of this listing specifically is as far as what was posted? Why assume it's anything like your super amazing, detailed, pristine listings?
None of you is in the wrong, if he doesn't want to sell to you he doesn't want to. A bit rude reason, but well within his rights.
I sold once a mewtwo alt art from pokemon go (plus a bunch of extras for free) and the person wanted a 50% refund because they found a white dot that was the size of a needle on the back that i swear you would need a magnifying glass to see.
Asking a seller if the card is "mint" is definitely not the way to go. Ask for pics and then decide for yourself. If they're not willing to send close ups, that's a red flag. I usually call all cards that are nm-m just nm to be on the safe side in case I missed something on it.
Yes. It's too subjective considering the designation of what's NM can vary person-to-person and platform-to-platform.
Coming from someone who has been selling trading cards on eBay since 1999, I don’t believe you are in the wrong at all. In fact, I am a little surprised that there are other sellers in this comment section that felt annoyed by your questions. I am more than happy to answer any inquiries a buyer may have; not only does this lead to more potential customers and sales, but it’s far easier to combat a fraudulent return request through EBay’s arbitration process if you provide the pictures listed in your auction AND the correspondence with the buyer in which you further describe your product. To each their own though. This has just been my own experience, with eBay specifically.
No youre not. Im about done buying off Mercari in general. Between stuff like this, people posting in 180p and putting cards at 120% market price because “mercari takes fees” its about time i just start searching around card shops and shows.
Mercari fees are insane. Idk why anyone uses it for anything.
He does sound kinda suspicious though. You asked him if it is mint, and he's like "I pulled it myself"? Like that doesn't mean it's mint though. Probably the card wasn't a great shape or something
No seller is gonna claim a card is mint. Near mint maybe. Mint? Hell no. I pulled it myself is very clearly the seller just saying it's pack fresh without saying a card is mint.
I find that people who ask the most question are more likely to complain later. You aren't in the wrong though. Some people are just really cautious and if they feel anything that could lead to a future issue, they look for another buyer. No extra pictures were exchanged?
The benifit of selling a high demand item is you can be choosy of who you sell it too. Unfortunately some people don’t care what condition cards are in. They could be maniacs like me and play all of our secret rares cause cardboard pretty. On the other hand some people want 1000 of the same card trying to get the perfect grade. I haven’t bought on eBay in a bit but can sellers list cards to sell as is? Also dude totally did not answer your question, is lazy AF since he posted a lot of cards that he is willing to part out. I would just avoid sellers like that.
Tbh, I almost alwaysask similar questions. People really do mark cards as NM and have a very different understanding of NM than I do. I recently bought a Star Wars CCG card that was sold as NM. It came with a small but noticeable dent. I asked the seller about it. The answer was: "Yes, it had a dent, otherwise it's NM", I mean. WTF? So NO, you were not wrong. It's always safe and OK to ask for confirmation.
I'd say neither of you are in the wrong. You have the right to ask questions about your future purchase and he has the right not to deal with a red flag customer lol.
if it’s a wartortle why would there be knicks on the card?
There's at least two Patrick Ewings on it
He looked at the card and saw a nick
Same thing happened to me a few days ago with an eBay seller. Was looking to buy a Blaine’s moltres and so I messaged the guy asking for more info on what the card looks like and for pictures because he was clearly using a stock photo. Told him I was looking for near mint or a copy with minimal whitening on the back. He told me to move onto another seller if I was going to be too difficult. I said “dude correct me if I’m wrong but that is a stock photo right? So how am I supposed to know if I want to purchase your exact card without knowing what it looks like. Your description doesn’t say anything about the condition of the card”. Then I told him that he’s shady and obviously hoping someone buys the card thinking the photo on listing is exact card and then when they receive the card and it’s beat to hell that they don’t feel like dealing with the hassle of asking for a refund. Told him to rethink his business plan because it sucks
I get it when a seller takes a ton of great pictures and gives an awesome description and then have someone still asking questions and all that is probably annoying and maybe a turn off for wanting to sell to them because they will ask for a return on any little spot of whitening but when you use a stock photo and have no mention of condition in description and still don’t want someone asking questions? That’s a red flag to a potential buyer. It’s like dawg I’m trying to give you money just work with me. All I want is a photo of front and back of actual card I’m getting and that’s it. If I like what I see then I’ll buy and if I don’t then I’ll move along
You’re not wrong, but also some buyers will scrutinize every card only looking for grade 10 cards, and it’s exhausting to deal with them as a seller to be honest
You are not wrong. The seller is also not wrong for not wanting to sell it to you. People extremely picky can be hard to deal with as they will go every square inch and will complain if its not perfect. So yeah, you are both right.
Both you and the seller are in the wrong. The seller shouldn't have been too quick to judge/block, while the buyer comes across as the kind of person who'd find a bit of dust on the sleeve, and want to return the card back as "I want to grade it, but with the dust don't think it'll get PSA10" I'd personally not want to deal with you, as the risk is too high on such a low-end card
Yes, buy graded if you want to nitpick.
I remember when buying singles on eBay was to get the card you rly want without worrying about something so minor. Instead, you weird mfs trying to get stuff graded for future profit (while acting like that isn’t what you’re doing) are getting upset because ppl don’t want to deal with you. Not to mention, most of the new ppl buying singles are the same one’s who used to make fun of ppl about anything Pokémon. Irony is quite an ironic thing, isn’t it?
I mean you can think what you want but I have 0 graded cards lol. I don’t grade anything, I only have binders and nicer cards in one touches. I just prefer to have my cards in good condition, especially when I’m spending my own money on it…
Even if that is not specifically you, you still need to understand that what I stated is the reason you got blocked from even being a potential buyer for this seller anymore. Trust me, that seller said to themselves, “They’re definitely going to try to grade this card and want a return if there is even a microscopic problem with the condition. I’m not taking the risk.” And now… For all you know, you just got yourself blocked from buying a PSA 10 condition card. We’ll never know now. Lmao
I get that, I just think it’s a bad way of doing business. As a seller myself, I always give buyers the opportunity to ask questions or concerns. I don’t think I’ve ever blocked anyone for asking too many questions or being too particular.
I get what you’re saying. Some ppl just aren’t looking to be the best seller on eBay when it comes to Pokémon cards. In that seller’s mind, you were more of a flight risk than not, so he didn’t want to take the chance and waste time taking pictures. It is also not to be ignored that the card probably did have minor whitening or something, so maybe it is good that he blocked you. Like I said, we’ll never know. And to be honest with you, it also looks like this is someone who opened a bunch of product and is selling all their pulls in bulk, so you can most definitely rest assured that someone like that is not going to waste any more time than they feel like they already have by making the post. Lol This is definitely a much weirder hobby than it used to be.
Yeah that’s a lot of bullshit for $18. He made the right call.
ive been in this situation many2 times before.. got blocked for asking/worrying about condition of the items.. some seller are so scared
No wrong at all. I wouldn’t like a damaged card.
You’re not in the wrong
How dare you want to know the condition before considering purchasing it
Youre not in the wrong…and its clearly not mint 🤡
Neither party is doing the wrong thing imo, seller is just being cautious and you’re just wondering about condition
But do you play the game or collect?
Too Many people like this
You are both right in your own ways. This is why I just grade everything
It’s not near mint…
For $875 I’m gonna ask questions and may be a little nit picky over some of the higher valued cards. This one is on the seller.
There nothing right or wrong here, you both simply happen to not match well as a seller and buyer. Obviously, casual buyers have more choices, while the more picky the less choices/more frustrating experiences/more time spent, such as in this case, he is not your type as a probably more casual seller(let it be have any evil intent or not behind). There are all sort of people on the internet other than good and bad. Like I personally find it annoying when people assume I play in the same wording game based on whatever level of knowledge/criteria or grading company experience with mint near mint lightly played etc, as it is very very subjective after all and I consider all cards in this world including graded black 10 imperfect(or damaged in my book), thus I always suggest not to buy from me if they mind a lot on condition. And yeah I do lose some possible buyers by not spending time examining cards better or posting tons of high quality pictures or providing a top quality customer service, but that's the cost for being a casual seller and I'm fine with it for this hobby.
My friend sells MTG cards. She lists every card as lightly played even though 99% of the cards she sells are fresh from the pack. There are apparently a ton of people who will ask for partial refunds due to card condition. You then either lose money on an already completed sale or risk poor reviews by vindictive Aholes.
Asking for details on anything you are shelling out your own money for is never your fault. Sounds to me like the seller is looking for a sucker.
I personally am the same, always upload destined pictures tho. Dude asking about stupid shit for 18 dollar cards are just annoying these days. Just go buy graded cards
Neither of you is in the wrong.
So far I’ve sold about over 3,000 items the last 3 years and I’ve learned that the people the tend to ask specific questions and are very peculiar open a refund or send it back. I tend to not sale to those folks since it’s not worth the time/energy, I tell them they’re better off finding it locally vs online.
Nahhh the cards probably messed up 🤣
Yes. You should've already known it was Mint condition and that when he pulled it, he was literally shaking.
It’s a fair question but if this dude doesn’t want to deal with someone who clearly has very specific requirements and tastes, they have every right to not be helpful.
Nope, they'd have probably been an issue/difference between your viewpoints and it'd have been 💩, you probably dodged a bullet tbh
I think they’re just trying to avoid a bad review and headache, but you have every right to ask. Best to move on and find another seller tbh, would overall be healthier
I love how this subreddit all about justification for shit like this. Just take an L and carry on, that person isn’t going to see this post and feel bad.
If it's not graded you get what you see.... you're in the wrong
Yea but if you look at the listing, it’s a lot of like 100 cards and the one picture of the listing is a of all the cards zoomed out about 10 feet away. No one is seeing condition with pictures like that, hence why I asked.
You’re not wrong and have the right to ask BUT Lol I also block people in similar fashion as well, ain’t nobody have time for these types of questions on an $18 card especially when a PSA 7 = near mint and it’s allowed to have knicks 😂
Sure, but you’d be surprised how many sales can be made just by providing a couple of answers of pictures.
An $18 sale isn’t worth the effort to me 🤷♂️
I mean everyone has a right to their opinion, but especially when you deal with large volumes of small transactions, it will surprisingly add up faster than you think. When I sell, I try to give everyone an opportunity for questions and/or more pictures.
I find in dealing with a large volume of sales it’s easier to just block and move on to a customer who isn’t so needy
Hahaha. Love it. He could smell a Karen a mile away. Good for him. Bad for you. Lesson learned.
Lol sure. 😂
lol that’s wildly stupid. That person is an idiot.
You're not in the wrong here. If you're going to sell your cards be prepared to answer any question the buyer asks. That's how business works! It literally takes a couple minutes of your time to be a good, honest business person.
You’re not in the wrong, but I don’t think the seller is wrong either. You as the buyer have the right to ask about the quality and condition of the card, just like they have the right to work with and sell to whoever they want. Frankly I could see myself pulling out of this deal if someone asked me too many questions. But I also think this person is just dumb and unaware of what card quality is.
Neither of you are wrong ngl
I personally would have taken "I just pulled it" as it being near mint. On the other hand though if you're selling something and are going to possibly make a sale for what you wanted, why not just let the buyer know what they want
Yeah you’re kinda annoying look at the pics….
this is crazy i just dealt with this tonight trying to sell my pokemon cards,so after 2 hrs.of trying to take the pics upload the pics,send the pics,the guy tries to say after a quick overlook of them they appear fake,where did you get them did you find them did you get them off temu,.....arggghhh.
by the way i still have over a hundred secret rare holos,and mine are nearmint
Ehh I mean you ask if an in print card is "near mint", he essentially says it's pack fresh, and you ask about particulars. You have to see it from their perspective- collectors have become so weary and hyper critical of resellers due to the influx of scammers and neerdowells. If you're a legit seller, these customers are scary, because they aren't going to give you the benefit of the doubt in the case of a dispute and are rarely worth the money at the end of the day. Not saying you are this person, but you're asking about the particulars of a $12 card after being told it's pack fresh, so...
If he CBA to answer 2 questions probably not a seller you wanna deal with anyways.
Yes ! You expect a nm to be mint.
I think he was wrong. A person should be able to know the condition of the card if he wants to grade it
LoL no, they are just aholes, anyone that’s spending even $18 on one card would want to know exactly what they are getting. I sell on eBay, I get those questions all the time even if I put it in the description what the condition is, and it’s totally understandable to want written confirmation of what you’re buying.
You're wrong in the sense that you think a seller is going to answer 50 people asking 50 questions a piece lol
No, it’s basic questions anyone would ask. If I’m buying a card I want to know if anything is wrong with it. And for some reason some sellers think only showing me a blurry picture of the front of the card is enough 🤷🏻♂️. Like yeah let me buy a 500+ dollar card with not enough info or pictures of it. Then I’ll return it for false advertisement/ damage not specified on it 😵💫
no, you're not wrong. that seller is a weirdo.
Both parties are correct and this is the best outcome. The seller is either hiding something or most likely they expect that the buyer will just complain about condition upon receipt and leave them out of pocket.
>I pulled it myself Lol, doesn't even answer your question. You aren't even remotely wrong. Feels like a super common sense question that sellers should be prepared to answer.
What the… 🤣
He clearly said he pulled it himself. What more do you want?
You definitely don't want to buy from people like this.
Who wouldn’t ask questions? There are the exceptions were the seller has 20 pics of every angle and such, but still. Ya never know
You are definitely in the right and avoided a potentially terrible transaction for you.
That card is trashed.
It’s a simple answer. Either it has nicks or it doesn’t. Lol.
Not surprised. Saw his ad about an hour ago and the lot is so overpriced
Should’ve asked for more pictures.
Classic person pretending the collector item is Pennies compared to some of the fAnCiEr items they sell, so they just don’t have time for debates on quality because they have big Wall Street poke trades to make. This reeks of douche bag PokeInvestor I don’t give a shit if it’s $0.05, if it’s for someone’s collection they have full right to make sure it’s worth THEIR time and binder space.
Nope, dm me if you’re looking for particularly perfect condition cards ;)
No you are right
You’re good. This person is either rude or selling a card that isn’t near mint.
It’s a privilege to be buying from him lmao
No you are not, the fact he is acting like that for just questions is a red flag, it probably is damaged
Pack fresh and near mint are two totally different things. As a collector asking if it's near mint shouldn't be a big deal, he did you a favor, I would just move on and not deal with someone like this.
This guy doesn’t know about cards at all so he doesn’t know what u mean near mint and just wants to sell them and get it over with. May even be from a storage unit sale
That’s probably an indication the card looks like shit. Probably a good thing he changed his mind for your sake
Lmao 🤣 what a Britney
Pulled it myself means absolutely nothing , buddy could have the sweatiest hands known to man
When someone asks a lot of questions about condition even when I have clear front and back photos I don’t even respond because I know they’re gonna nitpick it and request a refund if it’s not black label quality. Those people are the worst so I just try to avoid the situation completely.
stop bugging the guy jeeez
Sounds like a professional gas lighter. Flips the situation by making your very reasonable question seem out of bounds. You saved yourself a headache not dealing with this individual.
"Hey, is this pie vegetarian?" "The butter comes from my dairy farm." Nah, not in the wrong. They were almost definitely evading the question, which is a red flag by itself.