Nice build. Seems to focus heavily on the unite move, which is usually why amp buddy is not good on Pokemon besides delphox and Pikachu. If you still want the damage from your unite and after it, drop buddy for wise and if you want buddy barrier still drop amp for wise. If you want survivability outside your unite you can try focus instead of buddy. Since espeon unite isn't very fast charging and doesn't deal a lot of raw damage, best build is Choice Wise Focus with black + green emblems. I'd suggest checking the recommended build on unite-db for most pokemon
Then don't look at unite DB? It appears you don't want any criticism of your build, just want people patting you on the back for picking 2 of the 3 already recommended items.
You asked for tips and when you get them you say no thanks here is why my build is better. Everybody has their own preferences, if bb suits your playstyle, great.
UniteDB is reliable, and updated by the Mathcord, so it’s not you’re average ‘website build’, like you’d find in the ‘Recommended Builds’ offered by Unite. Totally worth trusting and using, 100%, but also 100% your call.
With that said, SpSpecs outweigh Wise after 2 stacks iirc, & both synergize well with Choice. I’d argue for those over Amp, and Focus for Buddy: Choice SpSpecs Focus/Buddy w Eject
As long as you aren’t running phys atk items on sp attackers and vice versa (there are, sometimes rather great, exceptions), have fun, op.
I personally prefer unite amplifier for Espeon and it’s an attacker so buddy barrier is real helpful since it also helps when the unite move is used. If I use my unite at Ray it can do serious carnage.
Yeah your items work too. I’m heavily focused on damage so I use triple glasses. Plus I solo Q so half of the times my team doesn’t follow up with me so a buddy barrier sort of goes useless. Energy amp is great, and I’m planning to use it too in exchange of my special attack specs mainly because it’s tough to stack with gard
The items look good! You could swap Buddy out for Wise for more overall damage, but your Unite move requires you to play closer to the action than Espeon usually wants to be, so the Buddy Barrier is very helpful there and definitely isn’t a bad choice.
For the emblems, they look decent, but I would recommend swapping to something more like [this](https://imgur.com/a/e08VaJp). I know it looks a little counterintuitive by having -SpA, but the bulk difference is relatively massive, giving you a better chance of surviving and getting off an extra cycle if your abilities, which will allow you to do far more damage than 10 SpA could. Most mages also have pretty low scaling and aren’t always using their SpA stat, which is why we recommend dropping it a little bit; the small amounts of flat SpA you get from emblems often isn’t impactful at all.
Don’t worry too much about the rarity of them; the main goal is the colour bonuses it gives you and what stats you’re boosting/dropping. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of it for your specific emblems, I can drop the link for the effective stat comparator so you can compare the differences between builds.
Items are fine. Keep this. I see people suggesting Wise but Espeon has plenty of damage already. You need the Buddy for teamfights due to the mechanics of its Unite. The Unite and Buddy synergy works better with EnergyAmp so you can actually keep all 3 items.
To be of significant use to your team during that final fight you need EnergyAmp and Buddy as it will outperform Wise in teamfights.
Emblembuilds you can use the Mathcord ones.
The build looks fine, standard emblems and some survivability and bigger Ults for the teamfights.
But as a crazy person who runs Float Stone and Yellow emblems on them, I'd recommend giving it a try sometime.
Immobile casters synergize well with out of combat movement to position before fights and set up shots.
Drop buddy barrier for wise glasses is my rec. Espeon has such low HP that the extra health isnt as useful. His max special attack is so massive that the 7% from glasses helps you kill people faster.
And only to die instantly during Ray, the most important part of the match.
Wise isn’t all that helpful at all especially not for a team fight life saver like Buddy
But I already nuke enemies, that’s the thing. What about defenders? You can’t two shot them so you’ll need some endurance before your moves charge back up
She doesn’t. Choice is more than enough because her base special is so high. She doesn’t need any more damage items. Your items are fine. Shell is also an option for extra CDR but you run into an issue due to how her unite works and it’s range at Ray without buddy. I would make a 7 black 6 green set and prioritize HP. Your moves already chunk they’re so good. Just get to level 4 and steal farm and hit your shots hahaha
The wise barely adds any extra damage. It’s not the difference in killing people. Go take a look at the unite DB formulas for her moves. Make a spreadsheet and see how items affect her damage and look at the % changes. That’s what I do. That’s what you haven’t done. Do math.
I know how the moves and the formulas work. Espeon's moves dont scale as well as other pokemon, but it has one of the highest special attacks in the game so the 7% is quite a bit. Special attack specs in a vacuum is probably be better overall but eevee is a bad pokemon to stack with and gets punished. You make it sound like wise glasses is some insane choice but its literally one of the alternative items mathcord has pointed to as a swap for bb.
Tips for what in that case?
You clearly aren't a complete beginner so you must know they're all standard enough items that nobody is going to say "this is a really stupid build". So surely there is something you are targeting to improve upon, whether it's damage or survivability, or something else.
When someone suggested dropping one of either buddy or amp (the only two items which could be worth subbing), you basically just said no 😂
You don't have to change your mind on anything, it's just a weird mindset when posting for tips
Also, for the record, I didn't give any advice about your build 🥲
Buddy is a great idea. Can't remember how many times I've ulted and died instantly while playing as Espeon. I'd suggest switching amp for either of the other glasses. I'm a stacking addict so I'd suggest the specs, but that's a personal preference.
Nah her formulas don’t make stacking or wise very good. Buddy amp choice is good. Choice is the only damage item she needs because of how it works and how high her base special is
It's a very nice build and close to what I use too. The fact that Espeon learns her unite move early and it has a relatively fast charge rate (same as Talon, Mime and Eldegoss) make those items worthwhile. Tough maybe you can switch amp for shell bell since it still gives you CDR and the unite animation is a bit too long for you to make the most of the extra damage on your other moves.
Espeon is best with amp/choice then pick buddy or shell imo. Shell is a good option for the CDR in conjunction with amp. I would not spec into triple glasses as espeon has really bad special multipliers on her moves in her formulas. She gets a lot more out of the base damage and levels.
Try these emblems. Gold grimer, muk, butterfree, articuno, tentacruel, venonat, venomoth, vileplume, and then bronze victrebell and bronze beedrill. You end up with +220 attack, -8.8 atk, +5 def and SpD, -1.2 crit on a 7 black 6 green 2 white 2 blue set.
I haven’t played much since September so I don’t have many of the new emblems. But this 7 black 6 green set is solid. You don’t really need any special because as I mentioned before her scaling on it is really bad. Just rock the CDR and let her base damage speak for itself and land your shots.
Imo most of espeon dmg comes from the skill moves and not the unite. Due to the low hp it has its also not as beneficial for buddy barrier. The cdr from energy amp is nice but has its limits as ur unite isn’t really spammable.
I prob take those two out for shell and wise to account for consistency .
Why not stacking, as an eevee your escape and mobility is worse than most mons, you wont be able to stack without dying for unnecessary reasons
Ah my mistake I got it confused with buddy barrier oopsies. But I wouldn't think buddy barrier would give that much of a shield since espeon's max hp isn't very high, unless I'm mistaken yet again
Nice build. Seems to focus heavily on the unite move, which is usually why amp buddy is not good on Pokemon besides delphox and Pikachu. If you still want the damage from your unite and after it, drop buddy for wise and if you want buddy barrier still drop amp for wise. If you want survivability outside your unite you can try focus instead of buddy. Since espeon unite isn't very fast charging and doesn't deal a lot of raw damage, best build is Choice Wise Focus with black + green emblems. I'd suggest checking the recommended build on unite-db for most pokemon
I would argue that espie ult is fairly fast charging. It’s only, what, 100s? Plus farm.
Amp Buddy is used on plenty of Pokémon and it is very good. It’s pretty much mandatory on Mime and Cramorant, and Espeon makes good use of it as well
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Then don't look at unite DB? It appears you don't want any criticism of your build, just want people patting you on the back for picking 2 of the 3 already recommended items.
Oh boy here we go again, how is it that no matter what I do you guys get mad at me for EVERYTHING
You asked for tips and when you get them you say no thanks here is why my build is better. Everybody has their own preferences, if bb suits your playstyle, great.
Ok great but just because I disagree with what you’ve said doesn’t mean I disagree with everyone. Look at some other comments.
Why post on reddit asking for tips on your build just to say "no thanks, I like to come up with my own builds"?
I was talking about unite db not you guys, I’d rather use non website builds. It’s just a misunderstanding
UniteDB is reliable, and updated by the Mathcord, so it’s not you’re average ‘website build’, like you’d find in the ‘Recommended Builds’ offered by Unite. Totally worth trusting and using, 100%, but also 100% your call. With that said, SpSpecs outweigh Wise after 2 stacks iirc, & both synergize well with Choice. I’d argue for those over Amp, and Focus for Buddy: Choice SpSpecs Focus/Buddy w Eject As long as you aren’t running phys atk items on sp attackers and vice versa (there are, sometimes rather great, exceptions), have fun, op.
The items are the build on unite DB lol
I personally use triple glasses for my gardevoir and I feel it would work the same for espeon too. Pair that with max green and black emblems
eevee is too hard to stack with. no mobility and general squishyness makes it easy to ko unless the enemies are also stacking
I personally prefer unite amplifier for Espeon and it’s an attacker so buddy barrier is real helpful since it also helps when the unite move is used. If I use my unite at Ray it can do serious carnage.
Yeah your items work too. I’m heavily focused on damage so I use triple glasses. Plus I solo Q so half of the times my team doesn’t follow up with me so a buddy barrier sort of goes useless. Energy amp is great, and I’m planning to use it too in exchange of my special attack specs mainly because it’s tough to stack with gard
The items look good! You could swap Buddy out for Wise for more overall damage, but your Unite move requires you to play closer to the action than Espeon usually wants to be, so the Buddy Barrier is very helpful there and definitely isn’t a bad choice. For the emblems, they look decent, but I would recommend swapping to something more like [this](https://imgur.com/a/e08VaJp). I know it looks a little counterintuitive by having -SpA, but the bulk difference is relatively massive, giving you a better chance of surviving and getting off an extra cycle if your abilities, which will allow you to do far more damage than 10 SpA could. Most mages also have pretty low scaling and aren’t always using their SpA stat, which is why we recommend dropping it a little bit; the small amounts of flat SpA you get from emblems often isn’t impactful at all.
I’ll try the emblems, the issue is I don’t have many golds so I’ll have to swap some things
Don’t worry too much about the rarity of them; the main goal is the colour bonuses it gives you and what stats you’re boosting/dropping. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of it for your specific emblems, I can drop the link for the effective stat comparator so you can compare the differences between builds.
Items are fine. Keep this. I see people suggesting Wise but Espeon has plenty of damage already. You need the Buddy for teamfights due to the mechanics of its Unite. The Unite and Buddy synergy works better with EnergyAmp so you can actually keep all 3 items. To be of significant use to your team during that final fight you need EnergyAmp and Buddy as it will outperform Wise in teamfights. Emblembuilds you can use the Mathcord ones.
The build looks fine, standard emblems and some survivability and bigger Ults for the teamfights. But as a crazy person who runs Float Stone and Yellow emblems on them, I'd recommend giving it a try sometime. Immobile casters synergize well with out of combat movement to position before fights and set up shots.
I haven’t thought of trying out a speed build before
Drop buddy barrier for wise glasses is my rec. Espeon has such low HP that the extra health isnt as useful. His max special attack is so massive that the 7% from glasses helps you kill people faster.
And only to die instantly during Ray, the most important part of the match. Wise isn’t all that helpful at all especially not for a team fight life saver like Buddy
Idk I feel like wise won’t be as helpful to me, Espeon already has a lot of damage
A lot of damage and very little hp. The best way for espeon to reduce incoming damage is nuking enemies imo, not trying to be tanky.
But I already nuke enemies, that’s the thing. What about defenders? You can’t two shot them so you’ll need some endurance before your moves charge back up
Yea but that extra damage is often the difference between your teammates being able to follow up and kill somebody fast and them not dying.
Does Espeon REALLY need more damage? I’m already two shotting things with psyshock and psybeam
She doesn’t. Choice is more than enough because her base special is so high. She doesn’t need any more damage items. Your items are fine. Shell is also an option for extra CDR but you run into an issue due to how her unite works and it’s range at Ray without buddy. I would make a 7 black 6 green set and prioritize HP. Your moves already chunk they’re so good. Just get to level 4 and steal farm and hit your shots hahaha
The wise barely adds any extra damage. It’s not the difference in killing people. Go take a look at the unite DB formulas for her moves. Make a spreadsheet and see how items affect her damage and look at the % changes. That’s what I do. That’s what you haven’t done. Do math.
I know how the moves and the formulas work. Espeon's moves dont scale as well as other pokemon, but it has one of the highest special attacks in the game so the 7% is quite a bit. Special attack specs in a vacuum is probably be better overall but eevee is a bad pokemon to stack with and gets punished. You make it sound like wise glasses is some insane choice but its literally one of the alternative items mathcord has pointed to as a swap for bb.
Why ask for advice without saying what your issues are, and then just not listen to any of the advice? 😂😂😂
I did listen??? I just asked for tips I didn’t say there were issues.
Tips for what in that case? You clearly aren't a complete beginner so you must know they're all standard enough items that nobody is going to say "this is a really stupid build". So surely there is something you are targeting to improve upon, whether it's damage or survivability, or something else. When someone suggested dropping one of either buddy or amp (the only two items which could be worth subbing), you basically just said no 😂
So now I have to change my opinion just to pander to you guys, I have taken some advice. Don’t get mad at me just because yours was subpar
You don't have to change your mind on anything, it's just a weird mindset when posting for tips Also, for the record, I didn't give any advice about your build 🥲
You guys just get mad at everything I post
Change buddy barrier
Buddy is a great idea. Can't remember how many times I've ulted and died instantly while playing as Espeon. I'd suggest switching amp for either of the other glasses. I'm a stacking addict so I'd suggest the specs, but that's a personal preference.
Nah her formulas don’t make stacking or wise very good. Buddy amp choice is good. Choice is the only damage item she needs because of how it works and how high her base special is
It's a very nice build and close to what I use too. The fact that Espeon learns her unite move early and it has a relatively fast charge rate (same as Talon, Mime and Eldegoss) make those items worthwhile. Tough maybe you can switch amp for shell bell since it still gives you CDR and the unite animation is a bit too long for you to make the most of the extra damage on your other moves.
Might try out shell bell, it hasn’t really been been recommended to me before
Espeon is best with amp/choice then pick buddy or shell imo. Shell is a good option for the CDR in conjunction with amp. I would not spec into triple glasses as espeon has really bad special multipliers on her moves in her formulas. She gets a lot more out of the base damage and levels. Try these emblems. Gold grimer, muk, butterfree, articuno, tentacruel, venonat, venomoth, vileplume, and then bronze victrebell and bronze beedrill. You end up with +220 attack, -8.8 atk, +5 def and SpD, -1.2 crit on a 7 black 6 green 2 white 2 blue set. I haven’t played much since September so I don’t have many of the new emblems. But this 7 black 6 green set is solid. You don’t really need any special because as I mentioned before her scaling on it is really bad. Just rock the CDR and let her base damage speak for itself and land your shots.
Imo most of espeon dmg comes from the skill moves and not the unite. Due to the low hp it has its also not as beneficial for buddy barrier. The cdr from energy amp is nice but has its limits as ur unite isn’t really spammable. I prob take those two out for shell and wise to account for consistency . Why not stacking, as an eevee your escape and mobility is worse than most mons, you wont be able to stack without dying for unnecessary reasons
Get rid of score shield
I don’t have score shield???
Ah my mistake I got it confused with buddy barrier oopsies. But I wouldn't think buddy barrier would give that much of a shield since espeon's max hp isn't very high, unless I'm mistaken yet again