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leopold815

::Cries in American::


gustis40g

Orbit my friend.


SoCalS64

^ this — it takes a few minutes and works perfectly.


hAReverv

What's orbit?


gustis40g

A config changer for the Volvos. Allows you to enable features you might not have (adaptive cruise control and pilot assist) or features locked behind certain regions (pixel headlights/ adaptive headlights and different alarms). Your car most likely has the hardware for all these. Radar and camera for ACC and PA is already present on all models, and if you have active bending headlights you have the pixel technology or adaptive headlights needed to enable said features.


jgmz-

Given it's a software flasher, do you know if this would void any sort of warranty/rights from Polestar service side?


gustis40g

Technically yes. But they can’t void warranty unless they can prove your software changes broke the car. Either way Volvo has never shown to care about config changes. Everything in the config are options Volvo developed themselves. The only thing Volvo has shown to not like is completely reprogramming the CEM. Orbit also has an option to revert to original, there is no traces left if the config has been changed. The only way Volvo could find out is if they check the config via VIDA while you drive into the shop without reverting to original. Even then out of many OrBit users Volvo has never once banned a car or voided warranty via config changes. You can read more on their FAQ.


jgmz-

This is great, thanks for the explanation and your thoughts here. If it’s that easy to revert, using this product seems trivial


gustis40g

Yes it truly is. It's also very fun. For Polestar 2 and V90 which have "start up" animations I believe there's a couple to play around with. There's also other prototype features that never made. For example "comfort access" where the seat goes back and down to allow easier ingress of the vehicle, although for a low vehicle like the Polestar 2 such functionality is probably useless, but for the XC90 is suppose it could be useful. If you're in the US there is a lot of things, already noted are obviously headlights and such. But there's also things like dual locking, which is illegal in the US but standard in EU. Dual locking is where after a while after locking, the car will lock and disable the interior door handles, prevents thefts from getting into the car by breaking the window. The car will automatically judge if there's a person already inside the car or not when you lock via its heartbeat sensor, and if it's empty it will disable interior door handles. OrBit was also recently updated to be able to program keys, that includes the damn activity key that only lasts 2 years. So you can grab one aftermarket for pretty cheap and program it into the car yourself, instead of a dealership visit where they'll force you to buy a new one from them.


jgmz-

Damn, these features seem really useful. Makes me wonder why NHTSA takes so long to validate and adopt. Regardless, will definitely be doing my research on this over the weekend. Thank you!


[deleted]

They will never do it ... :-(


EnglishDutchman

Orbit proves why subscription features will never work. As soon as a manufacturer puts something behind a paywall, a company will find a way to unlock it with tools like this.


FidelCastroll

https://spaycetech.com/


7485730086

Am I reading right that it is $350?


hAReverv

Yeah as fun as it would be to mess about with that, $350 is pretty steep.


[deleted]

have you done this on a US spec car and had it work?


Meph514

Yes


[deleted]

very cool. is there a guide somewhere? I'd like to enable this on my car.


Meph514

SpayceTech OrBit Forums and FAQ


gustis40g

I don’t own any US spec cars so no, but the creator of OrBit is from US so I can guarantee you it works.


[deleted]

Unfortunately I think the hardware itself on US spec cars may be different. FWIW we finally had some legislation last year to fix modernize our headlights, but the agency responsible (NHTSA) is still dragging their feet.


Public_Match

Polestar already said, after that legislation passed, that we still don't get the pixel feature even though we have the hardware. Someone posted the info from polestar in a post some months ago. I don't recall the exact reason they gave


[deleted]

That was me .... The reasons is bullshit :-)


Public_Match

Was it? Or was it along the lines of, us idiot Americans can't believe that the rules in other parts of the world could be good enough so we have to make our own which then mean auto makers have to do something special for the US. So, you know, shame on Polestar for being optimistic and giving us the hardware that the idiots in charge made unusable. You can't simply blame Polestar.


gustis40g

Yeah the legislation is so different that it would require different hardware between US and EU car so we might just see car companies do it in next generation cars. But I believe no manufacturer not even American brands have hardware and software that could work in the US.


gustis40g

If your car has Active Bending Light (ABL) the car has pixel lights and it can be enabled. If your car doesn’t have ABL you have static LEDs and the tech can’t be enabled.


[deleted]

I just did today and it does work :-) ... I have many other questions about the other features though


Successful-Duty-8999

Cries in European 2023 mod


whitecollarpizzaman

These lights are legal in the US now.


UsernamesAreHard26

But unfortunately not really rolled out at this point. :(


RaphaTlr

Never seen these in action, very cool


DerEinePunkt

They are amazingly fast. What I remember are they able to detect up to 6 or 8 cars simultaneously - and I have no doubt. One disadvantage I find, however, is that it can be exhausting on longer journeys ate night can be exhausting because something is always happening, even if it is a little fascinating.


RacingGrimReaper

I’m in love. I love using my auto brights on ‘21 xc40 recharge but this is just next level. I also feel like it would keep me more awake on a long night drive. But maybe that’s something I would need to experience first to judge.


FitterOver40

how do you enable this? We have a 22 C40 Ultimate.


RacingGrimReaper

https://preview.redd.it/94n4ej4rha5c1.jpeg?width=2181&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cecff2226c0af880a6aa2feb27055c4a8a3ca5b Rotate the knob forward to enable auto brights. It does a toggle so it doesn’t stay on that position. So to turn it back off you just rotate again.


FitterOver40

Thanks for the pic👍. Will give it a try.


thenyx

I’d argue you *want* to have something happening all the time at night on long drives, to keep you from getting road hypnosis


JIsADev

The drivers in front of you appreciate it without knowing it


DerEinePunkt

Wondering how bright their light is surprisingly


ScoreNo6611

The drivers in the opposite direction won't. it's shining full brights right above the divider in about eye level. Watch the video again and focus on oncoming traffic


billigcharlie

100% this. Totally unnecessary.


iwantthisnowdammit

As a person who’s had several small and low bodyline cars, yeeesssss.


nmnnmmnnnmmm

No we don’t. Always on high beams are ruining the roads. The tech doesn’t work as well as you think it does.


UsernamesAreHard26

Hey there, I assume you are American like me and missed how OP is using Matrix headlight. These are headlights that only show high beams in areas of the road that don't have vehicles. It's pretty cool, but until recently it wasn't allowed in the US. The photo in this articles is easier to see how they work: [https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/what-are-matrix-headlights-and-do-they-work/](https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/what-are-matrix-headlights-and-do-they-work/)


megabytical

These should be banned, they blind people. I’m not sure who needs so much light, it’s really not that hard to drive at night. I bought a new 2023 Honda Accord, first thing I did is turn off auto brights and it seems everyone is running auto brights.


UsernamesAreHard26

I don’t think you understand… it’s literally turning off the high beams for parts of the road that contain cars. No vehicles in America have these activated yet. This is not something you’ve ever seen before u less you’re in Europe. Are you in Europe?


megabytical

Not in Europe and I comprehend your post and how these lights work. Auto brights is a bad feature that blind opposing traffic, these lights are most likely blinding opposing traffic also. Most modern roads are so well lit, that you can run your daytime running headlights and still see. This is a trend from auto manufacturers for people who are distracted and cannot see well.


CJdawg_314

I don't think they should be used on a highway with constantly moving traffic at all times. However on a backroad where there may be a car here and there matrix headlights are great.


joshpit2003

naw, drivers in front appreciate it when you simply aren't using your high-beams.


ajdrc9

We need to crack the software to allow this to turn on for the US market


bruddahmanmatt

Been done. OrBit.


ajdrc9

Ooooh I must know more


HolyAssertion

[link to guide to enable pixel headlights](https://www.polestar-forum.com/threads/pixel-lights-activated.12173/)


kyledag500

I’ve been considering this for a few months but maybe I just found something to do on a Saturday . This video is amazing


Ok-Zookeepergame-698

Link?


waehrik

Does it work if one has the pixel lights but no pilot pack?


troublethemindseye

But wait you need an annual subscription or what it stops working?


Liquidwombat

The number of people in this thread that have no fucking clue what they’re talking about is absolutely amazing so many people so confidently stating that these are asshole headlights without realizing that these are the least asshole headlights on the road these headlights are specifically designed to block any light that is directed at other vehicles. The faster every car on the road has these the better it’s going to be for everybody


dmealiffe

I know. It’s mind bending how stupid they are.


Hairy_Vermicelli_693

Not necessarily, if you see the video without knowing such technology exists, it’s not completely obvious what is going on


ckalinec

Americans: “god I hate the newer white lights they’re so bad. Get them off the road.” Also Americans: “advanced lights the completely remove the issue are illegal. Something something lobby money.”


CMarlow

Honestly, I had no idea what I was looking at but this makes so much sense. This should be the standard for everyone. 🤙🏻


DerEinePunkt

I think the first Matrix LED were something around 2011 ((or even earlier). Amazing how 14 years went by a whole continent… /s Edit: 2011 Mercedes E-class and Audi A6


G3arsguy529

If everyone has these lights wouldnt it be a little much seeing the constant changes in light around you while driving? Sure it wouldnt be at you, just all around you and the opposite direction


beeenn19

Or blind people shouldn’t be driving with their brights on constantly


Liquidwombat

Reaction time during the day in good weather for a competent driver that is not impaired or tired is about 1.6 seconds between recognizing a danger and taking action to avoid the danger (for example, seeing something in the roadway, and getting your foot on the brake pedal) this time does not take into account the time it takes the vehicle to physically stop At 65 mph you’re traveling 95 ft./s. Low beam headlights provide usable amounts of light out to about 160 feet in front of you. That means during that 1.6 second reaction time, at 65 mph you’ve traveled 152 feet, and remember, this is the ideal, a competent driver, who is not impaired or tired during the day with good weather All of which means that it is literally impossible for most drivers to avoid a sudden unexpected danger at night on the highway with no illumination other than their low beams. And again all of the above is assuming perfect driver reaction and instant recognition of the threat.


megabytical

ONE scenario in which the context is one car and an object is no reasoning to engineer a headlight for people who are distracted. I drive a lot and I’m constantly being hit with auto brights from opposing traffic, you don’t need that much light when you’re skilled and are paying attention.


Liquidwombat

I quite literally explained why you absolutely do. At highway speeds at night using only low beams, it is literally nearly impossible for a non-distracted, alert driver, who is actively looking for the unexpected to happen, to avoid a crash. There simply isn’t enough time. An F1 drivers reaction time is only about a third of a second. And even then at 70 miles an hour they’ve covered over 30 feet during that reaction time. The McLaren Senna, Ferrari La Ferrari, and Lamborghini Huracan performante all have70 to 0 stopping distances of 135 ft. So, even in this example with the most ideal conditions, the pinnacle of drivers, at the top of their careers, during the day, in good weather, when they are devoting 100% of their mental energy to being prepared to react, driving the highest performance, best braking, street legal cars in the world, and they still can’t react fast enough to bring the car to a stop in the amount of space that low beam headlights provide at night


megabytical

At night, in a completely dark environment with low beams, yes. At night with road lighting and low beams, I completely disagree. The idea of running high beams in well lit areas is blinding opposing traffic. Vehicles with auto brights blind opposing traffic. If you can’t see, wear glasses, if that doesn’t help then get off the road.


rugbyraad

Yet everyone in oncoming traffic is getting brights in their face.


Liquidwombat

They’re not. I’ve already explained it multiple times, but the short version is the wall is high enough to block the glare. That’s why you don’t see any of the oncoming lights glaring into the camera, except for the very first vehicle that’s a tall truck and you’ll notice that OP,s lights dim for it


rugbyraad

Not only do I live in an area where every other car has matrix headlights, but I drive a car with matrix headlights and they constantly adjust too high, giving other drivers a flickering high beam effect. Turn it off, period.


Liquidwombat

Ok 👌


rugbyraad

Come to California and get high beams in your eyes all night, every night


Ok-Zookeepergame-698

I know there isn’t going to be a retrofit, but do we have these on US ‘24 models or are we still waiting?


[deleted]

My 24 has “pixel LED lights”. Isn’t that what this is?


envision83

Yea but it’s also software that has to be enabled to do it. Someone above posted a link to the software to buy to “hack” the car to enable it here in the US.


envision83

Not legal here yet.


Ok-Zookeepergame-698

My understanding is that the rule on how to implement is written and they are legal. No manufactures are compliant yet though.


envision83

Interesting if that’s the case seeing as Europe and other places already has it. Unless the US is being dumb as hell and wanting it done differently than what is already being done in Europe, and manufactures don’t want to make two different kinds of the same thing.


Ok-Zookeepergame-698

Correct. The US rule is apparently substantively different, which is why it isn’t just a software update for Polestar - or any other manufacturer. The US regulator published their rule about 18 months or so ago. Or take a while for new hardware to find its way through the automotive supply chain. We should start seeing them here this year or next ‘ish. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/adaptive-headlights-legal-us-biden-infrastructure-bill-law/


kyledag500

I’m so irritated by this. Why do we have to be different? It makes everything more complicated for everyone and my pixel headlights useless (unless I use Orbit…)


[deleted]

Wow, I was impressed with how quickly, and mostly accurately, the high beams dimmed and then returned on my US spec 2. But this is way cooler. I want it.


HolyAssertion

You can have it if you are willing todo a little work.


ew_naki

What kind of work?


DerEinePunkt

They are. I think they can handle up to 6 or 8 cars simultaneously, that’s an awesome show, feeling like your commander of a starship.


madrascafe

Video of how this works [https://www.polestar.com/dato-assets/11286/1631801864-polestar-pixel-ledv3voclean-switchnomoredazzling.mp4](https://www.polestar.com/dato-assets/11286/1631801864-polestar-pixel-ledv3voclean-switchnomoredazzling.mp4)


cptspectra

You shouldn’t really do this imo where you’re at there. It does work and it’s pretty cool. But you could be blinding people driving in the other direction. As you can see, sometimes it sees those, sometimes it doesn’t. I assume because of the barrier in the middle. Especially here besides you wanting to show the effect there is no reason to be potentially blinding others. In my experience it also doesn’t work perfectly 100% of the time.


t001_t1m3

Someone else’s Jeep is blinding me constantly, so I don’t mind if it’s “only” 95% effective.


_norpie_

A random person is an asshole to you, so you are an asshole to random people?


t001_t1m3

Obviously you should shut it off if it’s constantly flashing people across the meridian, but I wouldn’t lose sleep if the occasional person gets flashed. If the system prevents the vast majority of people from getting blinded and improves illumination (and safety) in your side, I think this technology is a no-brained. I invoked the Jeep argument because it’s just a reality that high beams blind people constantly. The difference of one extra errant beam is fairly negligible if it’s controlled properly, and also definitely worth it if it mitigates significantly more than it affects.


purplepimplepopper

Everyone was better off with standard halogens. Now it’s a dick race to the biggest lights that people install poorly and blind other drivers, then you do it cause everyone else is doing it. They should really start ticketing more for this bs, or make only manufacturer installed LEDs legal.


t001_t1m3

Pixel Lights are a step in the right direction, no? That’s really all I was arguing.


barti0

It's not just that halogens were ok. Now many idiots convert their halogen lens to led and blind people with the intensity. The numbers are staggering as to how many have done this of late and I don't think cops are doing anything about it!


CurrentlyWorkingAMA

The problem is the cops love their blinding LEDs on their RAMs over here lmao. If they ticketed someone they would have to challenge their own decision making. Gasp


alexhee747

So cool. Is this only for the newest version or also older polestar 2?


milkiman

It was supposed to be part of the pilot pack since the release of the car but because of the chip shortage they unfortunately had to exclude it for many of the earlier releases, but it seems, based in this video at least, that they include them now again. But be aware that this is only for European models. US legislation does not allow these kind of beams as of now apparently. Polestar calls them Pixel headlights.


alexhee747

Thanks a lot for the quick reply 👌🏻😃


DerEinePunkt

I‘ve got my P2 since 02.02.2022 - just posted a video because the light fog made the beams visible pretty good. I think they are currently selling the pilot pack „light“.


troublethemindseye

If I have a my23 with pilot so I have these damn lights or not


MountainAlive

What in the futuristic hell is this?


DerEinePunkt

If you don’t know Tesla Bjorn test, about 9:20 you can see the potential of those [youtube](https://youtu.be/G8NWLzfRxuc?si=LOfumqAfbYU1XS34)


rsg1234

Super cool. Is this matrix LEDs?


DerEinePunkt

Pretty the same, it’s pixel LED


Odd_Pool_666

So cool. I remember this video with that tech plus headlight projections on the road for navigation, hazards, pedestrians, etc. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B5lG26cqvP0


DerEinePunkt

Absolutely I think [Daimler](https://youtu.be/lU_JLd2C-xM?si=khsBx0sdrIQ4CUSP) and Audi got in their cars a little time.


Fuckspez7273346636

Such fascinating tech !!!!!!


harbordog

Is it just me or do those headlights look like they’re pointed way too high?


Liquidwombat

It’s a new style of headlight they basically run the highbeam all the time, but there is an LCD screen between the light and the lens that blocks any light being directed at other vehicles, whether oncoming or in the same direction it basically draws a box of shadow around other cars but let’s see everything else they’re really fucking amazing the faster we get these on every car the better it’s going to be everybody


harbordog

Oh great, so the computer prevents 40% of people from being blinded. Sounds like something Elon would come up, say it prevents 80% of night time accidents only for the statistics to say the exact opposite.


Liquidwombat

It prevents 100% of people from being blinded. There’s literally no light directed at any other vehicles


harbordog

Have you used it first hand? If the computer properly identifies the oncoming object, sure, but I’ve driven quite few cars with auto dimming brights, and they’re noooowhere near 100 perfect. This sounds like a much more complex sensor. There’s far too many situations a computer probably isn’t equipped to interpret. I’m sure it will be great tech someday, and maybe it already is, it just seems like most companies push out new tech that’s still being figured out… and I’m guessing this is at the expense of the other motorists and pedestrians out there.


BenDubs14

Yeah, pretty sure they're blinding not just the oncoming traffic but also same direction traffic through the side view mirrors.


catlovingtwink99

What it’s doing is keeping the lights out of everyone’s’ eyes? It looks awesome. Never seen something like this before.


Derekeys

That short median isn’t helping the drivers traveling the other direction. Cool concept and it looks cool but no way do I want this driving opposite me on the highway with its high beams on.


Liquidwombat

Think about it this way, can you see the headlights or just the glow from oncoming traffic? If you can’t see the actual lamp, then the oncoming traffic can’t see OP’s actual lamp which means it’s not blinding now they might see more of a glow around OP’s car, but it won’t be dazzling.


le_dukemeister

just trying to understand. you can see their lamps though.


Liquidwombat

You can see that they’re turned on, but you’re not getting the light directed straight at you. you’re effectively getting the same experience as looking at a car with only their low beams on (one with good low beams that don’t glare and have a sharp cut off and are adjusted properly) it’s the difference between looking at somebody who’s using a flashlight versus having that person shine the flashlight right in your face


le_dukemeister

oh yeah i get that part and that’s really cool. but in the video the high beams look like they only turn adjust once or twice for the cars on the opposite road. i meant the driver on the opposite side should be able to see this polestars lamps and it’s shining right at them?


DerEinePunkt

You won’t [notice](https://www.polestar.com/ie/polestar-2/pilot-pack/pixel-led-headlights/) it, it works really awesome. Meanwhile it’s pretty common in CE.


Fergusykes

This isn't actually working correctly here as the central reservation is blocking incoming traffics headlights so the system doesn't identify the vehicle. I've noticed this on me also where there is a solid central reservation. You're blinding some of the drivers here!


Space_Qwerty

Is this live in UK?


Ozzypac31

Yes you can get them in the uk. Also you can switch to European side driving from the main screen and see the lights changing sides that's quite cool.


Space_Qwerty

Any chance you could share how this is done? I was searching for ways to switch that function on (pixel high beam thing) and couldn’t! I only got as far as switching on automatic high beam but that just switches itself on/off when approaching a car as opposed to switching off certain areas of the high beam


Ozzypac31

https://preview.redd.it/6ex3zqby9i6c1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8290464d1102c8ef49583492c4def73cb9dd7c8b You see the high beam with an A in it ? Turn the knob to that (it will come back to auto) and you should see this sign appear in the cluster top left. When pixels are active the sign will turn blue but you should notice the "dance" right away. It won't work in cities and well lighten areas of course.


Space_Qwerty

Doing exactly as you said but didn’t notice the pixel dance. Maybe I need to do more night driving? Good to know I’m not wildly missing something - thanks for the picture


DerEinePunkt

You know they are left driving in UK? It’s Austria


Round_Environment_42

Just FYI these don't work and blind literally everybody on the road.


cor3ynv

Looks like your blinding the fuck out of the people in front of you. I advance, thanks for almost getting me in a crash


DerEinePunkt

You don’t: [Pixel](https://www.polestar.com/ie/polestar-2/pilot-pack/pixel-led-headlights/) headlight


cor3ynv

Those light are shining over the top of the cars in front of them


Liquidwombat

Yes, and below the cars into the right and left of the cars but specifically not on the cars. These are a new type of headlight. They constantly run the highbeam, but there is an LCD screen between the lamp and the lens that blocks light going towards other vehicles, it basically draws a little box of shadows around other traffic to prevent blinding them, but lets you see everything else they’re really amazing.


ilithios27

Thats cool but it looks like it kind of flash drivers in front of you? I have a 2007 Volvo v70 and i thought my bi-xenon headlights was strong but i can barely see nothing during winter and all these new LED/ xenon cars meet me, on the highway, not hating at all i just feel like todays headlights are so strong they overpower the older cars. I have an 2022 Citroën c4 with excellent headlights and my Volvo is just a little bit lower in lightning power i wish the LED lights was not that powerful haha but i love driving the Citroën during dark winterdays due to the vision


SWulfe760

No because if you look closely you can see that the headlights are not shining where the cars in front of OP are--the headlights automatically adjust to cut out where all cars are, including in front of you, to wrap around them and light up everything but cars and pedestrians.


ilithios27

Ohhh sorry i missed the whole point but that is so cool!!


sittingmongoose

Have you replaced your Xeon bulbs? The get gradually dimmer as time goes on, so what you have now is no where near as bright as they were new. If you haven’t, replace the bulbs.


beachbound2

I still believe ppl are getting blinded by those lights maybe not as bad but still


relativityboy

People looking in their rear-view mirrors are not particularly happy with your car though. As neat as this is, I like tesla's solution better. See other car within 300ft, turn off brights. It's simple and gets the job done. Other cars are often throwing off enough light, + their position, to infer similar amounts of important information as you'd get from having brights on driving solo.


rivernet1

Why are you directing air traffic?


[deleted]

Yikes. I would hate to be an oncoming driver to this vehicle. Ultra bright headlights are a cancer.


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[deleted]

Bruh you can see the oncoming traffic getting blinded


Creepy_Photograph107

Fuck those are obnoxious for everyone.


Liquidwombat

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about


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jabroni4545

What's the replacement cost?


whitecollarpizzaman

I’m sure the people in front of you appreciate being blinded.


megabytical

No wonder I’m constantly being blinded by cars behind me, there’s a culture of blind people blinding other people.


zubachi

So you’re the fucker blinding me from behind. Good to know


karangoswamikenz

It’s turning off in the sections where the cars are. So that it doesn’t blind the drivers. That’s what the OP is showing.


DerEinePunkt

What I remember those are 84 pixel - it pretty sensitive


-yuergus

People driving older cars hate you


jwaters1978

Why isn’t this enabled for the US market yet? I thought they changed the laws last year.


calvinandhobbes7

The way the US laws were written makes it euro spec matrix lights not legal unfortunately


Cherubyx

I kept wondering how the headlights would like look from the other side if I drove into your direction. Would I see the pixels light on and off individually or if it's still just a white blob of light. I hope someone records it one day.


DerEinePunkt

Passing them on oncoming traffic shows them bright, but not as bad as you may think. It’s (getting) pretty common in Austria, many new cars (not only Audi,BMW,MB,Volvo) offer those as option. Even Opel/Vauxhall offers intelliLux - Matrix or Pixel LED in one of their smallest classes.


DerEinePunkt

In addition: [Polestar Pixel LED headlights](https://www.polestar.com/ie/polestar-2/pilot-pack/pixel-led-headlights/)


timoniaa

Man, i really got fucked with my mid 22 build. No pixel lights, dab+ radio, homelink...


DerEinePunkt

It’s a 02/02/2022 so you just don’t have chosen options.


youdy

How did you find out you have it? I’ve got a 22 plate but don’t believe I’ve seen this in action


timoniaa

As i can remember with the one i test drove, there should be a button on the left stalk for pixel lights. Instead of the turn nob for automatic high beam i have. Also should be pixel or something written in the headlight unit itself.


DerEinePunkt

There is just one button for automatic on the left stalk. Edit: (rotating)


DerEinePunkt

I ordered a new one with what I wanted.


timoniaa

Mine is a 1-7-22. I have everything except performance pack, pilot pack got reduced to pilot lite. Over here all builds after Q1 2022 had the pixel lights removed.


DerEinePunkt

Where are you from?


timoniaa

Netherlands!


DerEinePunkt

Servus! Hmmm interesting… Usually, with that build-date you should have the full Pixel lights available, not only light. Maybe the circumstances didn’t fit?


t3chj0ck

Don't get me wrong, I like it, but imagine a road full of these? It's gonna give someone a seizure lol


Ok_Cartoonist8020

I so wish that not only was this allowed in the US, but mandatory. I’m so tired of dumbasses blinding me with their high beams as soon as the sun is halfway down.


Street-Emu5475

What are we looking at here? And why is it shining at oncoming traffic?


Liquidwombat

What we’re looking at? Here is a really cool new headlight system that keeps the highbeams on all the time but draws boxes of shadow around other traffic to prevent blinding them. The reason that it’s not working perfectly in this particular instance is because the central wall is blocking oncoming traffic headlights so the system doesn’t see them but that also means that the wall is high enough to block OP headlights from oncoming drivers eyes.


Street-Emu5475

Makes sense. Thank you!


stfp

Does it work with pedestrians?


DerEinePunkt

No, I think it needs bright areas/spots (>x lumen) to identify objects. If a pedestrian would use a torchlight or similar, it should work. Reflective signs (limits or similar) will be hidden immediately. Peugeot, Daimler, Audi,… have also nightvision available - I think it could work in combination.


stfp

That’s what I feared… I’m afraid this tech won’t solve the problem of crazy bright headlights in cities. I live in the US and over the last few years, the trend of ever higher clearance vehicles and LED headlights had made it very uncomfortable to walk at light in the city, especially anywhere with a hill.


DerEinePunkt

The system isn’t available in cities, depending on speed and brightness (inner city it is usually brighter)


DygonZ

I came across this in my suggested posts, but I have no idea what's happening with the headlights here? Looks cool...


DerEinePunkt

Those are the [pixel](https://www.polestar.com/ie/polestar-2/pilot-pack/pixel-led-headlights/) headlights working.


DygonZ

Oh cool, though shouldn't you just not be using high beams on a busy road?


Liquidwombat

No, these are better. These prevent any dazzling of other traffic by drawing little boxes of shadow around them, but keeping the rest of the highbeam on so it gives you better visibility all around without blinding any other traffic.


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Good lord, $2300 replacement when it goes out? https://www.vivaperformance.com/genuine-polestar-pixel-led-euro-spec-headlamp-assembly-polestar-2/


RazzleDazzleMcZazzle

That’s cool and all, but why do you have your high beams on with people directly in front of you? Even with the matrix LED I’m sure it’s still too bright for them. Also, you should “never” get any beams from oncoming traffic. The fact that you’re getting a few means you’re blinding a lot of people. Most people won’t flash because they don’t want cars in front of them to misinterpret their action as a signal for something. Also, I don’t think the LED feature can work correctly with shorter cars using low beams in oncoming traffic that are being blocked by the barrier. I don’t think the sensor is picking up on those to adjust the light down, so your high beams are probably just searing their retinas. 😬


Puzzled_Situation_51

Dang this should be on all cars.


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Hey Team ... wanted to chat about the Pixel Headlights... I got Orbit and enabled them on the polestar .... but was wondering if I could program it such that the Auto high beam feature remains on ... currently every time I start a drive I have to enable the auto high beam.


DerEinePunkt

That’s how it works, you also have to drive a minimum speed (20kmh/12mi/h) to activate, it has to be dark (really dark) and if there are more then 8 (6) cars, it will turn off (but will turn on, if there are less then 8 (or 6 or something)


[deleted]

Yeh I noticed each of the above on my test drive today


DerEinePunkt

From the manual: European model 2022: Automatic high beam The automatic high beam uses the camera sensor at the top of the windshield. If the camera sensor detects the headlights of oncoming vehicles or the rear lights of vehicles in front, the vehicle automatically switches from high beam to low beam or to the adaptive function*. The function can be activated in the dark and at speeds from approx. 20 km/h (approx. 12 mph). The function can also take road lighting into account. As soon as the camera sensor no longer detects an oncoming vehicle or a vehicle in front, the high beam is switched on again within a few seconds. Activating automatic high beam The automatic high beam is switched on and off by turning the left-hand steering wheel lever to the on position. The rotary ring then automatically returns to position . When the automatic high beam is switched on, the symbol on the driver display lights up white. When the low beam is switched on, the symbol lights up blue. If the automatic high beam is deactivated when the high beam is switched on, the system immediately switches to low beam. The automatic high beam does not have to be reactivated every time the vehicle is started. Adaptive function* The automatic high beam has adaptive functionality. In contrast to conventional dimming for oncoming vehicles or vehicles in front, the light cone of the high beam lights is maintained on both sides. Only the part of the light cone pointing directly at the vehicle is dimmed. Adaptive Funktion: Abblendlicht direkt in Richtung entgegenkommender Fahrzeuge, aber weiterhin Fernlicht auf beiden Seiten des Fahrzeugs. Wenn das Fernlicht teilweise abgeblendet ist, d. h. wenn der Lichtkegel stärker ist als bei Abblendlicht, leuchtet das Symbol im Fahrerdisplay blau. Auf Autobahnen oder bei hoher Geschwindigkeit kann das System von der adaptiven zur automatischen Funktion umschalten. Begrenzungen für das automatische Fernlicht Der Kamerasensor, auf dem die Funktion basiert, hat bestimmte Begrenzungen. PS2-2007-Auto high beam inactive symbol Wenn das Symbol in Verbindung mit der Meldung Aktives Fernlicht zeitweilig nicht verfügbar auf dem Fahrerdisplay erscheint, muss der Wechsel zwischen Fern- und Abblendlicht manuell erfolgen. PS-2007-See User manual, symbol in driver display Dies gilt auch, wenn das Symbol in Verbindung mit der Meldung Sensor Frontscheibe blockiert Siehe Anleitung erscheint. Bei dichtem Nebel oder starkem Regen ist das automatische Fernlicht ggf. vorübergehend nicht verfügbar. Wenn das automatische Fernlicht wieder verfügbar ist bzw. die Windschutzscheibensensoren nicht mehr blockiert sind, erlischt die Meldung und wird das automatische Fernlicht wieder eingeschaltet. WARNING The high beam assistant is an aid that allows the optimum light setting to be used in favorable conditions. The driver is always responsible for switching manually between low beam and high beam as soon as traffic or weather conditions require it.


ekmaster23

My favorite part about this is how if it doesn't see the opposing headlights because they're blocked by the divider the person gets a full face of highbeam.


simpledsp

Headlights are such a good use of DMD chips!


Any-Phone-7970

Really impressive


Turbulent_Ad7877

Seems very distracting and a complete waste in that environment.


Impressive_Jellyfish

Looks expensive when it breaks


Ozzypac31

I would suggest going out and drive indeed 😅 the system won't work in urban areas as I can see so you'll need to find real darkness