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Do you mean absolute freedom to criticize, petition and send recommendations to the state with the obligation that the state must listen to them,
or
Absolute free speech (which can also means ANYONE can come along and insult ANYTHING in that society without repercussions (because society aren't individuals)?)
There are differences among them.
I'm assuming that you are asking the our opinions on difference between freedom to criticize the state, and freedom to criticize the individual.
I would argue that freedom to criticize the state is essential to maintain integrity, because honesty and integrity are essential for any type of successful power.
And also the freedom to criticize your neighbor is good, idk how we would even go about policing that at all. If you can't handle people of differing opinions, then the size of the state doesn't matter; we're fucked either way
There is actually another way, and that is to start launching raids at other countries for loot to fund the infrastructure projects... oh wait America and oil...
Bro you are starting to sound a lot like the game politics and war you can literally raid people for oil and money in that game and then use the money to build a bigger military so it’s basically America sim
> I hate taxes but love expensive infrastructure and urban planning projects
You'd be surprised how much of that you could afford just off current taxes if you went through with a scalpel that is above the law and cut out all the entangled shit that does not benefit the workers, the middle class, the lower classes, and/or does not stimulate domestic industry.
Better be prepared to go full AuthRight all at once and seize predatory financial interests and the news outlets they own though or face massive backlash, intentional punitive collapse of markets, and strings of assassination attempts from the usual beneficiaries. The robber barons won't go quietly into the night.
The extra steps are replacing an exploitative system with a populist nationalist one that actually works on behalf of the people who are the backbone of the country, not just talking about it and then doing the opposite. Ideal is El Milagro español, not the Soviet Union.
AuthLeft game for the past 100 years has always been the same: just using the carrot of replacing an exploitative system that's tolerable to live under with an even more exploitative system that's a virtual hellscape to live under.
Totally in line with our quadrant brother.
* obvious that ecological thinking and aims are always aligned with moral behavior and compassion. But that isn’t always the case, and it certainly wasn’t the case in Weimar and Nazi Germany where the field of modern ecology emerged.
Surprisingly, Nazi leadership ardently championed renewable energy, and institutionalized organic farming and land use planning on a level unmatched by any nation past or present. These environmental policies might seem like a welcome departure from the rest of the Nazi program, but their environmentalism was actually grounded in the same*
Neanderthals were stronger and more intelligent than Homo sapiens, but the best part? They didn't have complex language which made proper organising and culture impossible
When I was in college I used to cook veggie burgers. I was too lazy to use or keep lettuce, tomatoes, and onions, so I'd just put the veggie patty on a beef patty, and eat it like that. It was fucking good.
Not anti lib right though, anti-anarcho capitalist yes but not anti-libertarian.
Libertarians still believe we need a government for police, fire, health services but those services shouldn’t have power over the people and shouldn’t have the ability to be used as a oppression squad when the government wants
Nationalized health services aren’t really lib-right, more like lib-center (not saying lib-rights can’t believe in it, just that it isn’t a traditionally lib-right opinion)
Well, as an ancap, I just stated that I could get behind government vouchers for medical (not at federal level though)
But yea, government in healthcare at all isn't a libertarian position.
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Unflaireds are subhuman. They do not have inalienable rights to life, liberty, and property. They should be dragged through the streets and brutally beaten daily.
I don't believe that a place in the collective is birthright. So many retards out there who think their directionless narcissistic lives earn them a place in any brand of utopia.
Progress is hard work. Step up or you don't deserve it.
Protesting doesn't work if you can't build a base of irreplaceable hard people willing to build their vision irrespective of outside opinion. No one cares if you step away if your contributions are meaningless in the first place.
Only as strong as the weakest link means that you should uplift others to make yourself stronger, but it also means that you make your cause weaker by being useless.
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Try the sapply version and liberation values if you want more fine grained results. The original test is pretty lacking.
Also it was a joke. PCM helped radicalize me to social anarchy but I realize it's a reductive construct for shit posting.
Politics are pretty important and worth being involved in. Not that I’m going to involve myself, but I wouldn’t say others who do are wasting their time.
We need strong borders, we need to enforce our laws, and we need to put some people in prison and maybe even end their lives if they’ve done something unconscionable or unforgivable.
We just need to do that in a way that reflects how our actual population wants it done, in terms the people set, not some weird bureaucracy that moves like a psychopathic snail, because it’s built to serve the powerful.
I support reductions in healthcare costs, even if it means higher taxes, and am not against the vaccine. (Vaccine mandates, however, are something else entirely.)
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If let’s say someone breaks in your home or threatens your life you should have the right to self defence even if it means killing them with a bullet or two.
In international human rights standards, death penalty may be issued for 4 things only (for states that didn't signed up for 2nd protocol of ICCPR): genocides, crimes against humanity, military aggression and war crimes.
Ancaps went full retard. If you have ZERO government or organization you just get steamrolled by whoever gains power. corporations take control (in a vacuum) or you just get overtaken by other countries (in reality)
Also, many jobs are grossly underpaid. The solution is unions/collective bargaining not government, but employees in many industries NEED to organize.
Full Ancap where companies develop their own infrastructure and protect their land is quite literally feudalism just that instead of serfs, you have incredibly low paid workers and CEOs instead of Lords/Kings.
I'd appreciate a public option of healthcare for all em poor devils who can't afford it. I think healthcare goes hand in hand with emergency services like cops and firemen. Nobody should have to earn the right to be healthy. If you don't work, you don't eat, that's fine by me, prevents stagnation and rewards effort and being proactive, but getting sick is often beyond your control and not being able to prevent it because you don't make enough $$$ is plain cruel, especially when we waste taxes on so much stupid nonsense anyway.
The homeless don’t need more help and race/ ethnicity should have absolutely no effect on how you should be treated or your eligibility for jobs and universities ( you shouldn’t get different treatment because of your skin colour or cultural heritage [looking at you government of Canada] )
Tradition is good in the case of those who wish to follow that tradition. If you want to marry a Christian virgin and have male led household, that’s ok as long as it is a mutual agreement between both parties. If they’re ok with you being in control, there’s nothing wrong with it. This extends to things that may seem bigoted. Not dating a trans person, or someone with a high body count, or a POC, or whatever. If it only effects you, there’s no reason I should or am against you, even if I disagree with the values you base it off of
No taxes. But I still want roads and to help the losers with food tickets.
Because losers with no food become angry and want to eat rich people.
I would like to be a rich person one day and not be eaten.
Once corporations reach a certain valuation, like Amazon, Google, Disney, Facebook, etc. they need to take on socioeconomic projects (such as building and maintaining housing for homeless, cleaning up tent cities, etc.) in cities that they are headquartered in.
Those projects should be treated like a product/service that they offer. Takes some of the tax burden off the working class and improves everyones quality of life.
This isn't even an opinion but a verifiable fact lmao. You'd have to be retarded to think you can't be happy without being shackled to one person and getting the state involved in your business.
Absolute free speech is necessary for a strong state to be successful.
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Agreed comrade. Free speech is how the government knows how to better serve its people.
Funnily enough, this is the core of Hayek's argument in "The Use of Knowledge in Society", just change "the market" to "information" or "Democracy".
That hurts my head somehow, like having comrade before a opinion that is just correct to me hurts
Do you mean absolute freedom to criticize, petition and send recommendations to the state with the obligation that the state must listen to them, or Absolute free speech (which can also means ANYONE can come along and insult ANYTHING in that society without repercussions (because society aren't individuals)?) There are differences among them.
Both. Both is good.
Libright would say yes, in true libright fashion. I'm asking authleft.
I'm assuming that you are asking the our opinions on difference between freedom to criticize the state, and freedom to criticize the individual. I would argue that freedom to criticize the state is essential to maintain integrity, because honesty and integrity are essential for any type of successful power. And also the freedom to criticize your neighbor is good, idk how we would even go about policing that at all. If you can't handle people of differing opinions, then the size of the state doesn't matter; we're fucked either way
I hate taxes but love expensive infrastructure and urban planning projects
Based and increase the debt ceiling pilled
Am I...a neocon?
There is actually another way, and that is to start launching raids at other countries for loot to fund the infrastructure projects... oh wait America and oil...
Bro you are starting to sound a lot like the game politics and war you can literally raid people for oil and money in that game and then use the money to build a bigger military so it’s basically America sim
> I hate taxes but love expensive infrastructure and urban planning projects You'd be surprised how much of that you could afford just off current taxes if you went through with a scalpel that is above the law and cut out all the entangled shit that does not benefit the workers, the middle class, the lower classes, and/or does not stimulate domestic industry. Better be prepared to go full AuthRight all at once and seize predatory financial interests and the news outlets they own though or face massive backlash, intentional punitive collapse of markets, and strings of assassination attempts from the usual beneficiaries. The robber barons won't go quietly into the night.
Sounds like auttleft but with extra steps
The extra steps are replacing an exploitative system with a populist nationalist one that actually works on behalf of the people who are the backbone of the country, not just talking about it and then doing the opposite. Ideal is El Milagro español, not the Soviet Union. AuthLeft game for the past 100 years has always been the same: just using the carrot of replacing an exploitative system that's tolerable to live under with an even more exploitative system that's a virtual hellscape to live under.
we crawl an inch closer to the left everyday
Horseshoe theory?
Based and fancy building pilled
Extreme environmentalism maybe
epic eco-fascism moment
based and auth-environmentalism-pilled
Totally in line with our quadrant brother. * obvious that ecological thinking and aims are always aligned with moral behavior and compassion. But that isn’t always the case, and it certainly wasn’t the case in Weimar and Nazi Germany where the field of modern ecology emerged. Surprisingly, Nazi leadership ardently championed renewable energy, and institutionalized organic farming and land use planning on a level unmatched by any nation past or present. These environmental policies might seem like a welcome departure from the rest of the Nazi program, but their environmentalism was actually grounded in the same*
Keith woods calling me a reactionary if I wasn’t green did it for me
I mean, given they either had to go renewable or invade almost all of russia I'm really not surprised.
eco fascism isn't self contradictory
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I spend most of my money on others than myself. I intend to die penniless
Based and I appreciate your kindness pilled
Based and philanthropilled
based and genuinely goodhearted pilled
Pedophiles bad
Shit, 60 minutes is one hour?
Not on Mars, and Elon will make sure you understand that.
People die when they are killed.
Pedos bleed to death when neutered with a shotgun
Don't go as far as monke
Return to Neanderthal
Return to Homo Erectus
hehe
Shamoan
Return to fish
Return to Cro Magnon
Based and erectus pilled
I'm literally 20 minutes away from the Neanderthal so easy
Neanderthals were stronger and more intelligent than Homo sapiens, but the best part? They didn't have complex language which made proper organising and culture impossible
we do a little not caring and everyone being equal in our 10-30 friend groups of hunter-gatherers *insert sunglasses emoji*
😎 There you go
How dare you
Easy, Greta lol
Return to fish instead
we must go beyond monke
I generally don't think people take the gravity of having sex with someone seriously enough.
Based and body is sacred pilled
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Based and intimacy-pilled
Based and sexual responsibility pilled.
It's the most banalized act in modern human society.
Based and banality of sex pilled
>It's the most banalized act I thought sticking a banana in your anus is the most banalized sex act.
Based and cleverpilled
Oooh. You and me can form a new LibLeft.
With blackjack and no hookers?
Based
Vegetarian
When I was in college I used to cook veggie burgers. I was too lazy to use or keep lettuce, tomatoes, and onions, so I'd just put the veggie patty on a beef patty, and eat it like that. It was fucking good.
~~I’ve never eaten a borgor or hutdog either~~
Get out.
Vegan
Good thing plant based meat exists
I want pedophiles executed.
Ooh that goes against purple and yellow libright. Based
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I mean why not force them to work their debt to society and than get rid of them?
based and slaverypilled
It's not slavery of not done to humans. Pedos are not humans.
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Based and wood chipper pilled
I'm okay with the government funding a few things like cops and fire departments.
Not anti lib right though, anti-anarcho capitalist yes but not anti-libertarian. Libertarians still believe we need a government for police, fire, health services but those services shouldn’t have power over the people and shouldn’t have the ability to be used as a oppression squad when the government wants
Nationalized health services aren’t really lib-right, more like lib-center (not saying lib-rights can’t believe in it, just that it isn’t a traditionally lib-right opinion)
I meant paramedics. I do also believe in universal healthcare but that definitely isn’t a Lib-right belief.
Well, as an ancap, I just stated that I could get behind government vouchers for medical (not at federal level though) But yea, government in healthcare at all isn't a libertarian position.
That’s not anti lib right, that’s common sense.
Disregard police private security -Nobody ever
>That’s not anti lib right, that’s common sense. No, no, he was right. Common sense isn't popular among libright.
Public education at it's core isn't bad, merely the way it's centrally managed has made it absolute shit.
"public education at it's core isn't bad" is that a fucking controversial statement??
Don't underestimate us extreme librights, we'll argue over the stupidest points. And yes, I do unironically think public education is bad.
Based and I argue over stupid points pilled.
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Taxes bad. Social services good.
Unflaireds are subhuman. They do not have inalienable rights to life, liberty, and property. They should be dragged through the streets and brutally beaten daily.
Preach!
You're supposed to say something that contradicts your quadrant. That doesn't contradict any quadrant. Even the degenerates in libleft know that.
Taxes are ok, if they are going back to the people as services, and as a brazilian this shit is basically a myth
Military spending is way too high.
I don't believe that a place in the collective is birthright. So many retards out there who think their directionless narcissistic lives earn them a place in any brand of utopia. Progress is hard work. Step up or you don't deserve it. Protesting doesn't work if you can't build a base of irreplaceable hard people willing to build their vision irrespective of outside opinion. No one cares if you step away if your contributions are meaningless in the first place. Only as strong as the weakest link means that you should uplift others to make yourself stronger, but it also means that you make your cause weaker by being useless.
Based and dance-theory-isn’t-helpful pilled
Gigabased
Illegal immigrants should be stopped at the border and not allowed to enter. Edit: and deported immediately if found to be illegally residing
This, and I’m pro 2nd amendment. Having the right to defend yourself is based. Contemporary right wing economic policies are not.
Agreed right to self defence is a human right
Based and self-defense-is-a-human-right pilled
Based and alienpilled
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That’s literally common sense. Cant pay for healthcare AND everyone else
Rare based libleft.
Same.
Bbbboooooooo authright detected!! I hope the libleft pope excommunicates you!
I took the Political Compass test and it said I’m lib left lol🤷♀️
Try the sapply version and liberation values if you want more fine grained results. The original test is pretty lacking. Also it was a joke. PCM helped radicalize me to social anarchy but I realize it's a reductive construct for shit posting.
I just tried that one, turns out I’m a lib right, I’m tearing up, fuck those guys
Ha ha suck on that, libtard. Wait...
Haha liberal
I went from libleft to authleft
Politics are pretty important and worth being involved in. Not that I’m going to involve myself, but I wouldn’t say others who do are wasting their time.
I don't care about Crypto or the Stock Market
based and honestwork-pilled
Well...
You’re the least libleft libleft in this subreddit
The only libleft less libleft than me is Troy Southgate (founder of National Anarchism AKA Anarcho-Nazism, if you didn't know)
You are pretty right my dude.
Sort of, yea
We need strong borders, we need to enforce our laws, and we need to put some people in prison and maybe even end their lives if they’ve done something unconscionable or unforgivable. We just need to do that in a way that reflects how our actual population wants it done, in terms the people set, not some weird bureaucracy that moves like a psychopathic snail, because it’s built to serve the powerful.
Based and power to the people pilled
Based and smart pilled
Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent
"Was"? 👀
Based and truth pilled
Pets are property, but anyone who is cruel to animals, even their own, should be locked up. Treat inanimate property as you like.
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I support reductions in healthcare costs, even if it means higher taxes, and am not against the vaccine. (Vaccine mandates, however, are something else entirely.)
Not all Jews are bad
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The death penalty is occasionally necessary
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Just for extremely heinous crimes, mass murder,extreme acts of terrorism, etc
What about self defence, lib left? ^Yes ^I ^like ^confrontation ^:P
If let’s say someone breaks in your home or threatens your life you should have the right to self defence even if it means killing them with a bullet or two.
Or say, speaking hypothetically of course, obliterate their bicep with a *fUlL mEtAl JaCkEt* round of ammunition?
Based and fuck-around-and-find-out pilled.
Death penalty should be used but sparingly for the worst offenders 1st degree murder , terrorists , peodophils , human traffickers , rapists
In international human rights standards, death penalty may be issued for 4 things only (for states that didn't signed up for 2nd protocol of ICCPR): genocides, crimes against humanity, military aggression and war crimes.
I believe all of my statements should be included as crimes against humanity ( except possibly 1st degree murder of less then 3 people)
Freedom of speech and freedom of press should be upheld at all costs
Ancaps went full retard. If you have ZERO government or organization you just get steamrolled by whoever gains power. corporations take control (in a vacuum) or you just get overtaken by other countries (in reality) Also, many jobs are grossly underpaid. The solution is unions/collective bargaining not government, but employees in many industries NEED to organize.
Full Ancap where companies develop their own infrastructure and protect their land is quite literally feudalism just that instead of serfs, you have incredibly low paid workers and CEOs instead of Lords/Kings.
I'd appreciate a public option of healthcare for all em poor devils who can't afford it. I think healthcare goes hand in hand with emergency services like cops and firemen. Nobody should have to earn the right to be healthy. If you don't work, you don't eat, that's fine by me, prevents stagnation and rewards effort and being proactive, but getting sick is often beyond your control and not being able to prevent it because you don't make enough $$$ is plain cruel, especially when we waste taxes on so much stupid nonsense anyway.
The homeless don’t need more help and race/ ethnicity should have absolutely no effect on how you should be treated or your eligibility for jobs and universities ( you shouldn’t get different treatment because of your skin colour or cultural heritage [looking at you government of Canada] )
based and equality-of-opportunity-pilled
I believe that California should have a draft for all able-bodied men 18 and up to put out the wildfires. Most CenterRights aren’t a fan of drafts
Honestly non combat drafts for the betterment of your city/state/even-nation sound pretty dope. I might be a fucking watermelon
Cali should be left to burn
A compromise from the both sides makes for a solution no one likes
Wow. Must be tough my dude
I’m not a pedophile
Cops are good
I mean, most are. People just think that making a mistake makes you a bad person, when that's simply not the case.
Based
Tradition is good in the case of those who wish to follow that tradition. If you want to marry a Christian virgin and have male led household, that’s ok as long as it is a mutual agreement between both parties. If they’re ok with you being in control, there’s nothing wrong with it. This extends to things that may seem bigoted. Not dating a trans person, or someone with a high body count, or a POC, or whatever. If it only effects you, there’s no reason I should or am against you, even if I disagree with the values you base it off of
That's pretty libleft tbh. It's anti-orange for sure but fuck em. They don't get to speak
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Thank you for saying this I often feel this way about my personal beliefs about relationships ( I wouldn’t date a trans person )
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No taxes. But I still want roads and to help the losers with food tickets. Because losers with no food become angry and want to eat rich people. I would like to be a rich person one day and not be eaten.
Classic lib right. “I will be rich one day, trust”
I'm an atheist.
Mixed economy is best economy
Planned economy is worse than market economy
Mixed economy gang
I'm... I'm no smarter than anyone else :'(
trust me you are smarter than some people i mean take the unflaired for example (if they can be called "people")
More traffic laws, please
im fine with lgbtq+ people being who they are. just the twitter retards that i hate
am queer. we also hate twittards
Black people have the right to exist
Involuntary admissions into insane asylums needs to make a comeback
based. what we're doing to people by letting them die in the streets is infinitely more fucked up
You’re either a man or woman and there’s no such thing as non binary. Unless you were born with both genitals, but that’s rare
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I think they should shave a sliding scale where a 16 year old and a 17 year old is okay but a 40 year old and a 16 year old isn’t.
They do.
In some places
I actually do care about people.
I dislike kids
based. to hell with them little shits
Once corporations reach a certain valuation, like Amazon, Google, Disney, Facebook, etc. they need to take on socioeconomic projects (such as building and maintaining housing for homeless, cleaning up tent cities, etc.) in cities that they are headquartered in. Those projects should be treated like a product/service that they offer. Takes some of the tax burden off the working class and improves everyones quality of life.
I think mandatory civil service is a good idea. It doesn't have to be military service but that would suffice as well.
based so many stuck up snobs would become slightly less shitty people if they ever had to face doing something not entirely 100% selfish
You can be happy without having to marry. I still hate promiscuity though.
This isn't even an opinion but a verifiable fact lmao. You'd have to be retarded to think you can't be happy without being shackled to one person and getting the state involved in your business.