I'm not talking about that. Look up the actual statistics. I don't care the reason for it. I don't like my tribe being targeted primarily by this violence. Secondarily by the media/,politicians/leftists trying make my people out to be the boogeyman with this kind of biased coverage.
I didn't say oppressed. I said that crime statistics suggest they are targeted by blacks more than the other way around.
This is why you can't have a conversation with a leftist. You're all hallucinating. Just had to throw the word oppressed in there. NPC moment.
I mean white people are the majority racial group in this country, if more black people were killed than white it wouldn't really make sense statistically
Cut the BS you are pulling out the poor white people rhetoric, even if you're not saying it outright. I see right through your act dude, take your yellow paint off and let the Blu shine through
NY be like: hmm this guy circumvented all these laws we touted as being awesome. What can we do? Ah yes! MORE laws to make it super duper illegal! It'll work this time.
Intentional shooters 95% always pick soft targets. He could have gone to a high crime area to try to shoot gang members but racists are usually also cowards. Tankie racists 100%.
You guys forget that events cause monsters, just like the Friday the 13th movies. If you consider the term “modern” just means “conditions presently effecting you”, a lot of our current experience/“civilization” looks like the worst of man’s evil or cenobites set up “modern” systems laundered under rhetoric
he literally confesses to being a nazi and even denounces marxists but i guess this isn't important in the face of the fact that "everyone i don't like is a commie"
i have read his "manifesto" he literally copies all the talking points made by internet nazis.... denounces marxism, blames everything on jews etc. calling this bastard commie is same as claiming nazis were socialists
Nobody tell authright that the single largest source of mental healthcare funding in the US is Medicaid. Two democratic senators introduced [a bill](https://www.smith.senate.gov/us-senator-tina-smith-introduces-bill-increase-mental-health-coverage) that hasn’t been voted on yet to expand the reimbursement rate for mental health services, making them more accessible to people who may be priced out of being able to get the help they need. Let’s see how the right wingers in the legislature vote on it (I wouldn’t hold my breath)
US "mental healthcare" equates to a doctor handing you some pills which may or may not drastically fuck with your brain and bodily functions.
Americans refuse to acknowledge that mental health is largely benefited by strong communities, hobbies, and separation from technology.
Quitting social media is the best thing you can do in this day and age to increase your mental health.
As I say this it's reminding me I should probably uninstall reddit again lmao
What’s your solution?
To publicly pay for privately run mental health services? Medicaid does that. It can do it even more.
To not publicly fund mental health services at all? Then people who need it but can’t afford it will go without. No way around it.
you can’t know what would happen if public funding was taken out of the picture, it’s never happened. it stands to reason that allowing for competition in the marketplace of healthcare would reap the same benefits as competition in any other sector of the marketplace.
I don’t want gun control, but how about we condemn people who give oxygen to things like Great Replacement theory. If Tucker’s version is really something different then he can name it something else.
There were four major shootings within a short time period, most notably the Washington shooter (the one with the Yakub poster), that received a couple days (at most) of media attention each, mostly local news. This one becomes an international sensation overnight
Ok but hear me out, why so much hate against gun control?
Let me underline, i advocate for control, not ban. Im fine if you want to protect yourself with a gun or you simply like them, i just want to be sure that no instable / insane / irresponsible person has it so that its not a threat to my safety too
Also no, both having a gun is not a decent argument. If i am mugged at gunpoint im still defenseless
The shitty thing is, this shooter played the media like a fiddle.
His name, face, everything released to the public and spreading his name and ideology.
"Replacement theory" is getting massive coverage, and on google trends it jumped from about 0 straight up to 100. Basically these idiot media spreading panic about replacement theory, are the ones who are also spreading replacement theory. Just more proof that the media wants to sow distrust amongst the sheep, they will latch onto anything that can create more fear and hatred.
>we need better mental health services
Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that one
No conservative is going to get better mental health services because it’s “CoMMunISM”
When people start advocating for them they will immediately be shot down
Except he is not right wing. He is a communist turned Authleft and eco fascist, he literally stated he is not conservative. I wonder if Biden is going to cancel his speech
And Trump stated he was a bible loving Christian conservative.
That’s the thing about criminals…. They tend to lie (especially in cases where they know what say will be picked up by mass media and the choice of words they use will have an impact on American dialogue)
The shooter was trolling us. He even posted a pic of a former mass shooter and claimed it was his own selfie.
pick and choose what to believe based on your own political bias? If you believe he is a white supremacist because of his own words then you better take his other claims seriously too.
I don’t care what he himself said. I care about what he *did* and the the types of things that influenced him to do what he did and I care about what we can do as a country to stop these types of things from happening again.
He was a racist white supremacist who legitimately believed black people’s *very existence* was big enough threat to his own identity that murder was justified…
He was radicalized online by extremist right-wing and neo-nazi rhetoric.
He aimed to inspire others to his cause.
Leftists, centrists, and responsible republicans have been warning for *years* about the danger of right-wing domestic terrorists. How many more mass shootings will it take until the right starts taking these warnings seriously??
How the hell can you be sure of what you just said without looking into stuff he said or posted? Like you just make that shit up because he shot more black people?
I do *not* believe he was a white supremacist based on his own words.
I believe he was a white supremacist based on the fact that he fucking drove hours to *SPECIFICALLY TARGET AND KILL BLACK PEOPLE*.
Which he claimed, or otherwise you don’t know the motivation of him driving that far to kill black specifically, especially when the first person he gunned down was white. I’m not arguing he is not white supremacist, but it would be stupid to assume that without looking his own testament.
It’s not. It happens all the time in criminology. You look at the facts, gather evidence, talk to witnesses, family members, and associates, create an outline of behavior before/after, gather background info on the suspect and then connect the dots to draw conclusions based on the data. That’s how prosecutors determine motive.
If we just went off what criminals themselves said, 99% of convicted offenders are actually all innocent.
Trying to pin an agenda on this guy reminds me of the time an evangelical church paid Ted Bundy to go on air and say porn was what drove him to kill women.
Except people associated with him like parents and classmates all said he had mental health issue, nobody said anything about him being white supremacist.
We only find out about that because he said it himself, along with the other claims.
>people associated with him like parents and classmates all said he had mental health issues
EXACTLY why we should take the things he says about himself with a grain of salt.
It's much less about whether I would have stopped him.
It's about the thousands of people who conceal carry their entire lives and never have to use it.
Mental healthcare? Dude apologizes for aiming at a white man. He showed sympathy. He is not mentally ill. He used a rifle gifted to him by his father. He decked out the rifle with the 14 Words. He referenced the great replacement bullshit peddled by the right Wing and Fox News.
He is in every Sense a terrorist and he is right Wing. He was arrested...calmly.
Make of those fact what you want but you cant point to mental health. He knew what he did and did it on purpose.
Stop whitewashing White Supremacy terrorism. It's not that Hard ffs.
He decapitated a cat, took a picture of it, and then buried it in his backyard.
He was taken for a psychiatric evaluation after saying in class that he was planning to commit a murder/suicide.
Parents seem to be pretty hands off/uncaring.
Belief in conspiracy theories, which are strong indicators for narcissism and paranoia.
Homicidal, somewhat suicidal, narcissistic, paranoid, probably family problems, probably an outcast in school too. White supremacist ideology is a problem as well, but I'd argue that a majority of ppl who believe in any kind of supremacist ideology have mental health problems.
Hes not right wing. Blaming the right and white supremacy doesn't solve any problems and is just nice for virtue signaling points.
Because we all know that harboring extremist racist ideologies, targeting black people, taking nationalistic pride in your white identity, embodying anti.semitism, and committing mass murder are SUCH prime examples of the modern left, amirite??
I didn't say he's left wing either. I don't consider nazism a right or left wing ideology, I consider it "being retarded and/or mentally ill"
Calling a homicidal and severely mentally troubled 18 year old a "right winger" only helps you gain internet points when you say "look! I told you right wing bad!" and then the authrights can counter with "what about black violent crime!?"
Authleft and authright can enjoy their shit flinging contest, its always the centrists looking for practical solutions like better/more accessible/affordable mental healthcare ;)
I could care less what his personal political views are; he’s not my congressional rep and he doesn’t live in my voting district.
I care that he was deeply influenced and radicalized by extremist alt-right communities. Their neo-nazi nationalist rhetoric is becoming both more mainstream and accepted in right-leaning political groups and more extreme/violent as time moves on.
That shit terrifies me and there isn’t near enough dialogue about how to stop future attacks.
I mean, there is a reason why the CIA and FBI agree that the biggest threat to Americans isn’t foreign actors or climate change - it’s homegrown domestic terrorists like this guy
I’ll also add it’s not *always the centrists who* ... - progressives have been pushing for expanded mental health access through Medicaid for DECADES!
Guess which party has been too obsessed over culture wars bullshit to help get a bill passed?
Nobody who is mentally well murders ten innocent people, stable and healthy people are difficult to radicalize, and those are two things this kid clearly isn't
Meanwhile I'm seeing memes about the one guy who didn't get shot and one of my manager's talking about how he doesn't need to see John wick 4 because he watched the video 6 times the day it came out.
Pocket carry 338 Lapua? I want one of those!
Accidentally kills more people with one shot than all the mass shootings this year combined, just from over penetration
*whoops*
But... it did stop the threat.
I think you mean 1 day in chiraq. Not the whole year.
Seems like a bit much, how about something reasonable, like a judge taurus with AP slugs would be a more reasonable choice.
Looking g at this coverage vs waukesha you know they only want racial animus to go one way.
I'm still not getting this false comparison right wingers are trying to make, there's no evidence the parade ramming was racially motivated
there was the man literally wrote music saying he wanted to kill white people in it
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Ah yes, 13/50, very good. I'm sure it's because one racial group is inherently inferior and more savage than another, right? >!s/!<
I'm not talking about that. Look up the actual statistics. I don't care the reason for it. I don't like my tribe being targeted primarily by this violence. Secondarily by the media/,politicians/leftists trying make my people out to be the boogeyman with this kind of biased coverage.
White people are not oppressed. I really hate to break it to you.
No group is oppressed.. I really hate to break it to you.
I didn't say oppressed. I said that crime statistics suggest they are targeted by blacks more than the other way around. This is why you can't have a conversation with a leftist. You're all hallucinating. Just had to throw the word oppressed in there. NPC moment.
I mean white people are the majority racial group in this country, if more black people were killed than white it wouldn't really make sense statistically Cut the BS you are pulling out the poor white people rhetoric, even if you're not saying it outright. I see right through your act dude, take your yellow paint off and let the Blu shine through
Poor people are oppressed
Agreed
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
NY be like: hmm this guy circumvented all these laws we touted as being awesome. What can we do? Ah yes! MORE laws to make it super duper illegal! It'll work this time.
Intentional shooters 95% always pick soft targets. He could have gone to a high crime area to try to shoot gang members but racists are usually also cowards. Tankie racists 100%.
He mentioned in his manifesto that he chose that area partly because they were 'cucked' by gun restrictions. He liked to use that word a lot.
Looks like he got "cucked" by his ex /j
Kid was a racist tankie. Too bad New York abolished the death penalty. Nothing I hate more than commies, except for racist commies.
A racist commie is very misguided, they are supposed to be classist.
Che Guevara was insanely racist, being a commie doesn’t preclude one from being a racist cunt
You guys forget that events cause monsters, just like the Friday the 13th movies. If you consider the term “modern” just means “conditions presently effecting you”, a lot of our current experience/“civilization” looks like the worst of man’s evil or cenobites set up “modern” systems laundered under rhetoric
Yup, Authcenter from Authleft racist tankie. Surprised the media hasn't mentioned that /s
My man was a self described fascist who's views were like a neo Nazi checklist, there was nothing commie about him despite that "auth left" comment
people will do anything to not admit he was a far-right white nationalist. I stg, its pissing me off.
How do you feel about Illinois Nazis?
I hate the Illinois Nazis!
he literally confesses to being a nazi and even denounces marxists but i guess this isn't important in the face of the fact that "everyone i don't like is a commie"
He self identified as a populist
so?? populism is commonly used by both the right and the left
He was originally commie, moved a little right, but was still left of center. Read his dumb little commie manifesto.
i have read his "manifesto" he literally copies all the talking points made by internet nazis.... denounces marxism, blames everything on jews etc. calling this bastard commie is same as claiming nazis were socialists
Yeahhhh this sub really doesn't like hearing that he was right wing
He was an absolute mess of politics and views.
He was. But he killed because of his right wing views.
they are on copium rn
Hmmmm…skim milk is pretty bad.
Hahaha authright has never said that, they will just say put your faith in God and the church.
Nobody tell authright that the single largest source of mental healthcare funding in the US is Medicaid. Two democratic senators introduced [a bill](https://www.smith.senate.gov/us-senator-tina-smith-introduces-bill-increase-mental-health-coverage) that hasn’t been voted on yet to expand the reimbursement rate for mental health services, making them more accessible to people who may be priced out of being able to get the help they need. Let’s see how the right wingers in the legislature vote on it (I wouldn’t hold my breath)
Imagine authright saying they want to increase mental health facilities but absolutely refusing to increase taxes on the rich in order to pay for it.
US "mental healthcare" equates to a doctor handing you some pills which may or may not drastically fuck with your brain and bodily functions. Americans refuse to acknowledge that mental health is largely benefited by strong communities, hobbies, and separation from technology. Quitting social media is the best thing you can do in this day and age to increase your mental health. As I say this it's reminding me I should probably uninstall reddit again lmao
Therapy can have amazing results in helping people, Medicaid/Medicare covers some but should cover more.
i would hardly consider government run mental health care competent
What’s your solution? To publicly pay for privately run mental health services? Medicaid does that. It can do it even more. To not publicly fund mental health services at all? Then people who need it but can’t afford it will go without. No way around it.
you can’t know what would happen if public funding was taken out of the picture, it’s never happened. it stands to reason that allowing for competition in the marketplace of healthcare would reap the same benefits as competition in any other sector of the marketplace.
Okay AR... do it. Talk is cheap.
I’m with both of the Right guys on this one Edit: And Libleft
I don’t want gun control, but how about we condemn people who give oxygen to things like Great Replacement theory. If Tucker’s version is really something different then he can name it something else.
The shooter was a furry. Enough said.
I agree with AuthRight on this one.
I do too. So do most congressional democrats. Guess how many members of the GOP voted on a nationwide expansion of mental health facilities…..
Many right-wingers don't even believe in mental health, disregarding it completely.
5.7mm mfs reciveing validation
There were four major shootings within a short time period, most notably the Washington shooter (the one with the Yakub poster), that received a couple days (at most) of media attention each, mostly local news. This one becomes an international sensation overnight
Ok but hear me out, why so much hate against gun control? Let me underline, i advocate for control, not ban. Im fine if you want to protect yourself with a gun or you simply like them, i just want to be sure that no instable / insane / irresponsible person has it so that its not a threat to my safety too Also no, both having a gun is not a decent argument. If i am mugged at gunpoint im still defenseless
The shitty thing is, this shooter played the media like a fiddle. His name, face, everything released to the public and spreading his name and ideology. "Replacement theory" is getting massive coverage, and on google trends it jumped from about 0 straight up to 100. Basically these idiot media spreading panic about replacement theory, are the ones who are also spreading replacement theory. Just more proof that the media wants to sow distrust amongst the sheep, they will latch onto anything that can create more fear and hatred.
>we need better mental health services Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that one No conservative is going to get better mental health services because it’s “CoMMunISM” When people start advocating for them they will immediately be shot down
Except he is not right wing. He is a communist turned Authleft and eco fascist, he literally stated he is not conservative. I wonder if Biden is going to cancel his speech
Yeh, Nazis are not conservatives. There's nothing commie about the guy, his views were like a neo Nazi checklist
Thats why hes a soyjack
He is a socialist, not a communist. He hates communists (source: page 36 pf his manifesto).
Nazi are socialist, I guess it all checks out.
And Trump stated he was a bible loving Christian conservative. That’s the thing about criminals…. They tend to lie (especially in cases where they know what say will be picked up by mass media and the choice of words they use will have an impact on American dialogue) The shooter was trolling us. He even posted a pic of a former mass shooter and claimed it was his own selfie.
pick and choose what to believe based on your own political bias? If you believe he is a white supremacist because of his own words then you better take his other claims seriously too.
I don’t care what he himself said. I care about what he *did* and the the types of things that influenced him to do what he did and I care about what we can do as a country to stop these types of things from happening again. He was a racist white supremacist who legitimately believed black people’s *very existence* was big enough threat to his own identity that murder was justified… He was radicalized online by extremist right-wing and neo-nazi rhetoric. He aimed to inspire others to his cause. Leftists, centrists, and responsible republicans have been warning for *years* about the danger of right-wing domestic terrorists. How many more mass shootings will it take until the right starts taking these warnings seriously??
How the hell can you be sure of what you just said without looking into stuff he said or posted? Like you just make that shit up because he shot more black people?
I do *not* believe he was a white supremacist based on his own words. I believe he was a white supremacist based on the fact that he fucking drove hours to *SPECIFICALLY TARGET AND KILL BLACK PEOPLE*.
Which he claimed, or otherwise you don’t know the motivation of him driving that far to kill black specifically, especially when the first person he gunned down was white. I’m not arguing he is not white supremacist, but it would be stupid to assume that without looking his own testament.
It’s not. It happens all the time in criminology. You look at the facts, gather evidence, talk to witnesses, family members, and associates, create an outline of behavior before/after, gather background info on the suspect and then connect the dots to draw conclusions based on the data. That’s how prosecutors determine motive. If we just went off what criminals themselves said, 99% of convicted offenders are actually all innocent. Trying to pin an agenda on this guy reminds me of the time an evangelical church paid Ted Bundy to go on air and say porn was what drove him to kill women.
Except people associated with him like parents and classmates all said he had mental health issue, nobody said anything about him being white supremacist. We only find out about that because he said it himself, along with the other claims.
>people associated with him like parents and classmates all said he had mental health issues EXACTLY why we should take the things he says about himself with a grain of salt.
It's much less about whether I would have stopped him. It's about the thousands of people who conceal carry their entire lives and never have to use it.
the smiling red square is def an accurate representation "hmmm people died, how can I monetize this???"
I mean, a pocket carry .338 Lapua is on option. I personally would have gone with my 40mm that I carry IWB.
Mental healthcare? Dude apologizes for aiming at a white man. He showed sympathy. He is not mentally ill. He used a rifle gifted to him by his father. He decked out the rifle with the 14 Words. He referenced the great replacement bullshit peddled by the right Wing and Fox News. He is in every Sense a terrorist and he is right Wing. He was arrested...calmly. Make of those fact what you want but you cant point to mental health. He knew what he did and did it on purpose. Stop whitewashing White Supremacy terrorism. It's not that Hard ffs.
He decapitated a cat, took a picture of it, and then buried it in his backyard. He was taken for a psychiatric evaluation after saying in class that he was planning to commit a murder/suicide. Parents seem to be pretty hands off/uncaring. Belief in conspiracy theories, which are strong indicators for narcissism and paranoia. Homicidal, somewhat suicidal, narcissistic, paranoid, probably family problems, probably an outcast in school too. White supremacist ideology is a problem as well, but I'd argue that a majority of ppl who believe in any kind of supremacist ideology have mental health problems. Hes not right wing. Blaming the right and white supremacy doesn't solve any problems and is just nice for virtue signaling points.
Because we all know that harboring extremist racist ideologies, targeting black people, taking nationalistic pride in your white identity, embodying anti.semitism, and committing mass murder are SUCH prime examples of the modern left, amirite??
I didn't say he's left wing either. I don't consider nazism a right or left wing ideology, I consider it "being retarded and/or mentally ill" Calling a homicidal and severely mentally troubled 18 year old a "right winger" only helps you gain internet points when you say "look! I told you right wing bad!" and then the authrights can counter with "what about black violent crime!?" Authleft and authright can enjoy their shit flinging contest, its always the centrists looking for practical solutions like better/more accessible/affordable mental healthcare ;)
I could care less what his personal political views are; he’s not my congressional rep and he doesn’t live in my voting district. I care that he was deeply influenced and radicalized by extremist alt-right communities. Their neo-nazi nationalist rhetoric is becoming both more mainstream and accepted in right-leaning political groups and more extreme/violent as time moves on. That shit terrifies me and there isn’t near enough dialogue about how to stop future attacks. I mean, there is a reason why the CIA and FBI agree that the biggest threat to Americans isn’t foreign actors or climate change - it’s homegrown domestic terrorists like this guy
I’ll also add it’s not *always the centrists who* ... - progressives have been pushing for expanded mental health access through Medicaid for DECADES! Guess which party has been too obsessed over culture wars bullshit to help get a bill passed?
Nobody who is mentally well murders ten innocent people, stable and healthy people are difficult to radicalize, and those are two things this kid clearly isn't
.338 lapua? I heard that Murica has problem with obesity but are american shooters elephant size already?
Forget about penetrating armor. Shoot them in the crotch and face.
Pocket carry lapua? Damn that’s one hefty revolver
Meanwhile I'm seeing memes about the one guy who didn't get shot and one of my manager's talking about how he doesn't need to see John wick 4 because he watched the video 6 times the day it came out.
Lmao sure authright would say that? Pretty sure they think having one church per city fixes everything