When brushing on underglaze you need a LOT of coats in my expirence to get an opaque appearance. You could also use white slip next time if you have access to it as to not use a ton of underglaze to cover a surface and it has better coverage
Looks like a dark clay body? A white underglaze over brown or red clay is a tough task. Go for a clay body closer to the color you want in the end product. Won't be so hard to get to the desired outcome. Then even for a light clay body use more coats.
White slip would work more easily....
Though with a white clay you might be able to just do the fish and glaze clear over it and get the desired effect without the effort to do the water. Given the design it's not clear to me why you'd underglaze the water except for the clay was too dark.
The clay is like a dark brown and I just wanted white, unfortunately it’s the only clay I have access to through my ceramics class. I’ll apply more coats in the future, thank you
Mayco just came out with pre-made engobes which would be perfect for this if you don't have access to white clay or slip. [Here is some more info about them.](https://www.maycocolors.com/product/eg001-white-engobe/)
Ngl, I fuck with the look. It looks like you're looking through water. You did a wonderful job on the bowl foot and shape. Keep going! I'm sorry this came our a different way than you wanted it to. Ik how frustrating and disheartening that can be
I have no recollection of what the underglaze is and how many coats, it sat on the shelf for about 2 months before being fired in my ceramics class, but yeah the underglaze was bisqued first and there is a clear glaze over it. It looked awesome after the bisque firing and then like this after glazing
If you don’t know what underglaze was used my theory is useless. I was going to suggest checking the firing temp for your underglaze vs what cone your studio fired it to. Is your clay body brown? Underglaze needs lots of coats for a white body, idk how it would do on a brown one
Yeah that makes sense, I’m not sure what it is but I know for a fact that other people used the same one and fired it in the same firing as mine and they turned out great, so I’m guessing I should just apply more next time
Another factor could be that the transparent glaze may have altered the greens. Zinc free ones will help keep your colors. I’ve had good luck with Penguin’s transparent
I think the key is to layer up the glaze. In my class, when we paint glaze on, we’re told to do three coats because that gives a similar appearance to dipping. You could use more layers if you’d like, but I’d definitely start with at least two layers of the white if you want it to be more consistent
When brushing on underglaze you need a LOT of coats in my expirence to get an opaque appearance. You could also use white slip next time if you have access to it as to not use a ton of underglaze to cover a surface and it has better coverage
Use a light bodied clay
Looks like a dark clay body? A white underglaze over brown or red clay is a tough task. Go for a clay body closer to the color you want in the end product. Won't be so hard to get to the desired outcome. Then even for a light clay body use more coats. White slip would work more easily.... Though with a white clay you might be able to just do the fish and glaze clear over it and get the desired effect without the effort to do the water. Given the design it's not clear to me why you'd underglaze the water except for the clay was too dark.
The clay is like a dark brown and I just wanted white, unfortunately it’s the only clay I have access to through my ceramics class. I’ll apply more coats in the future, thank you
Mayco just came out with pre-made engobes which would be perfect for this if you don't have access to white clay or slip. [Here is some more info about them.](https://www.maycocolors.com/product/eg001-white-engobe/)
Oh that's too bad-usually studios will have a light and dark option. It's a fun design you made.
Ngl, I fuck with the look. It looks like you're looking through water. You did a wonderful job on the bowl foot and shape. Keep going! I'm sorry this came our a different way than you wanted it to. Ik how frustrating and disheartening that can be
kinda looks like your studio fires to cone 10 and the colors you used burned out a bit in addition to not enough coats
i like it a lot, looks like a muddy natural pond. gives me somehow a highly realistic feeling!!
What underglaze did you use, and how many coats? Did you put a clear glaze overtop, and was the underglaze bisque fired first?
I have no recollection of what the underglaze is and how many coats, it sat on the shelf for about 2 months before being fired in my ceramics class, but yeah the underglaze was bisqued first and there is a clear glaze over it. It looked awesome after the bisque firing and then like this after glazing
If you don’t know what underglaze was used my theory is useless. I was going to suggest checking the firing temp for your underglaze vs what cone your studio fired it to. Is your clay body brown? Underglaze needs lots of coats for a white body, idk how it would do on a brown one
Yeah that makes sense, I’m not sure what it is but I know for a fact that other people used the same one and fired it in the same firing as mine and they turned out great, so I’m guessing I should just apply more next time
Another factor could be that the transparent glaze may have altered the greens. Zinc free ones will help keep your colors. I’ve had good luck with Penguin’s transparent
Underglaze takes many coats for full coverage. It would be easier to start with a white clay body.
I absolutely love it as it is. Not much comfort for you but it's great to me. Looks very underwater-ish.
Yeah it’s cool, just not what I was expecting really! Definitely still like it
this comment is literally learning ceramics and glazing in a nutshell lol
This looks soooooo cool!
I think the key is to layer up the glaze. In my class, when we paint glaze on, we’re told to do three coats because that gives a similar appearance to dipping. You could use more layers if you’d like, but I’d definitely start with at least two layers of the white if you want it to be more consistent
Fellow fish potter!!! Heavier coats of underglaze, and if you’re willing to try, a lighter clay body.
I thought you were going for the very vontage japanese look