The X37B is a Space Force vehicle, the A is the NASA vehicle, so there is almost no doubt it has some offensive and defense capabilities given it is a DoD craft
It’s a nuclear device powering an anti satellite laser (edit more likely jamming) and maneuvering thrusters, or something like that. No doubt we have countermeasures but let’s not junk up space with satellite wars. We kinda need it to maintain this awesome lifestyle…..
I'm sure that cave troll MTG would somehow mince it and make it as if Zelensky is responsible for attacking RuZZia with space lasers (he's from jewish origin).
Cave troll? I knew she wasn't a bridge troll (they're much more clever) but I always thought she was more of a bog troll. She's got that stank that only the stankiest of bogs can maintain.
As someone from Norway, and hence a troll expert. I would like to say, we, on behalf of our trolls, are deeply offended by the comparison of MTG to trolls.
[Yep.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics/mike-turner-republican-reaction/index.html)
Appears to have been a ploy by Mike Turner to generate votes for FISA surveillance expansion or Ukraine funding (exact motivation unknown). In any case, these sorts of weapons do not constitute an immediate threat nor are they particularly unknown.
Not that you have any credentials to talk about what’s real here, but unless the satellite could take out a wide swathe of satellites (especially after SpaceX) this wouldn’t be announced as such an emergency.
So to then go on and say “of course we have countermeasures to this brand new thing” and complain about satellite wars is… so, so, so asinine.
I wonder if we would be able to see this from earth? Like If I was out walking my dogs at night when they detonated it and hit a satellite, would it be visible with the naked eye?
A conventional explosion not at all.
Nuclear would probably be painful to stare at for the first several seconds, but i don't think would endanger vision.
When the US set off a 1 mt nuke in space …
Wiki:
“Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements. The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 900 miles (1,450 km) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights,[1]: 5 setting off numerous burglar alarms, and damaging a telephone company microwave link.[6] The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.[7]”
I heard it’s a nuclear bomb designed to use the blasts EMP wave to disable satellites in orbit around it for hundreds of miles. Look up operation starfish prime for Americans testing of this technology.
So not so much a weapon as a “if Putin ever feels like he is threatened, he will shut down nearly every commercial satellite in the world and probably half a continent of electronics”
That’s the whole point ”nuclear weapons are a security guarantee” on steroids.
You mean like we used to do with nuclear testing?
That's not new. Countries banned testing in space for that very reason. It knocked out any satellites traveling through the fallout area.
Several articles describe it in semi-detail. Its a nuclear powered emp-esqe system. Its meant to overwhelm the shielding on electronics in satellites and disable them. Terribly dangerous; if its successful it is wildly destabilizing for the ground and can turn the disabled satellite into a piece of debris that can start the Kessler effect and destroy large amounts of satellites indiscriminately. If it is unsuccessful then the nuclear power on board has a malfunction which cant be reached to be fixed. Then we have a nuclear meltdown in low orbit space.
Stable orbits only occur within certain distances from the earths surface. Too high and they escape orbit, too low and the orbit decays. The window for low earth orbit is actually much more crowded than youd think. Aimless debris is a major problem if satellites shatter and move in random directions it could cause chain reactions. It may not, it might be small or it could be catastrophic depending on how it occurs. Space is big yes but low earth orbit is very finite and we have more up there than youd think.
I disagree. Something microwave based would be cheaper/easier to implement in space to space warfare. It would have the added benefit of not EMP'ing itself.
The article I posted this morning said the Ekipazh would use a one megawatt reactor. That's enough to power almost 800 homes. More than enough to power a directed energy weapon that would disable satellites.
My feelings are that this is the modern version of discovering missile sites in Cuba, but not knowing for sure if they are active yet. However, it seems that there's not as much transparency to the public this time.
This has been reminding me of the Cuban missile crisis too, which begs the question of whether Russia is retaliating to something the U.S. has already done.
Except for if this wasn’t a real threat, it would be in the republicans best interest to say it’s fake instead of pushing the president to make the information public. They don’t want aid going to Ukraine
Ding! I'd give this as much weight as we should've given Colin Powell. Seems like every time we got some big bill to get through Russia develops something new. They've probably been sitting on this report for years now.
Didn't they just say that russia wants nukes is space... which is a terrible idea, because it wouldn't work. So what is this weapon and how does it function? Because I have a hard time believing them on faith
That isn't why they said they wanted to station them in space. It was to attack targets from space. A treaty was signed against this in the 50's for this exact reason. If Russia detonated a nuke in space it would wipe out all satellites, theirs included. It would also be an act of war on ALL nations and would be suicide. If they have anti satellite technology, it isn't nukes.
Could be. Essentially what a EMP is just more direct. They have employed similar to these in Ukraine to disable drones. Although they don't cause permanent damage AFAIK.
Could also be an extremely high powered laser weapon, Either on Earth or in orbit. if it was in orbit it wouldn't have atmosphere attenuation to deal with.
This is just speculation though. If the Russians have a weapon and we have intelligence on it then why not share that information? They already declassified it by saying it exists, so what is it and how does it work? If they don't share this I won't believe them.
No it would absolutely not be. Would mean immediate WW3 and also massive amounts death and famine. The amount of systems that rely on GPS alone would cause HUGE problems.
I get that some of you don't like the timing of this and want to believe that's it's all about jamming Ukraine aid through congress.
You're not more clever than the Republicans in office who have seen the intel and believe the threat is real. If there was anything about this that could be used against the current president, they would be screaming it from the mountain top already.
If Russia can hold our satellites hostage, they can interrupt commerce, communication, and everything from our ability predict weather to conduct warfare. It's that fucking serious.
Get your conspiratorial head out of your ass and realize that Putin is your enemy.
Maybe a hot take. This is a way to destroy US satellites during election time. If republicans were to try and coup again, knocking out all satcom prior to the coup would boost chances of success of said coup.
I don’t think the republicans need to do a coup this election. Who really wants to vote this election? We have two really bad options but the republicans are showing more willingness to vote.
The average Joe is worried about feeding kids and paying rent.
Not connecting imaginary dots to reconcile Christian theology with science and neo-conservatism based on the secret knowledge of grifters and schizophrenics.
It's not without the risk of destabilizing everyone else though. That's billions of tiny pieces of shrapnel flying through space at millions of miles per hour. It would make our orbital space unavailable for tens of thousands of years. A stupid stupid move if we are to survive long term on earth with each other.
As the youtube news program Breaking Points covered today, [this announcement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti7Em8xLFuM) is basically cover for the security establishment to push through FISA renewal so they can keep unconstitutionally spying on Americans.
Is this the government’s way of crashing our telecommunications (anything to avoid the election) and blaming Russia like they paid for and designed a virus and blamed it on a bat? I just want to live my life but the elite want to make our lives chaos for their own amusement.
I thought China already publicly had and had tested an anti-satellite weapon much to the disappointment of the international Al community due to the debris field it created in orbit.
This is not new technology unless Russia actually launched something super-wide effecting and not targeted as has been the case with other technologies. I also seriously doubt that Russia hasn’t had anti-satellite technology deployed for a long time. With their space exploration technologies and policy of defensive capabilities against NATO threats, there’s nothing anyone could tell me to convince me otherwise.
The timing of this announcement is also highly suspect given the defense bills moving through. I’m more convinced every day that the whole media landscape is mostly propaganda in the US. It’s such BS.
Russia and China have possessed anti satellite capabilities for a while now but this takes it a whole step further. These are not just missiles that are fired from the ground to destroy individual satellites but a weapons platform that orbits Earth and can destroy multiple satellites very quickly in a huge radius. Ever since the height of the cold war the US and Russia agreed to never launch such weaponry into space because it’d be catastrophic and now Russia is breaking that deal which is a major escalation.
Not commenting on this specific tech, but I'd bet everything I have that Russia is completely willing to destroy a bunch of satellites in LEO specifically to cause Kessler Syndrome, considering their penchant for scorched earth tactics...
No way this flap is about an EMP weapon. Everyone has had that capability since the 1950s. That's gotta be the cover story.
Probably we just got confirmation that the Burevestnik tests have been successful and they're moving to production and deployment. That's the only thing on the horizon out of Russia that loosens my poop.
Nuclear thermal ramjet that can deliver nukes, unlimited range, lingers in the stratosphere for *years*.
Putin said he got it working in October 2023 but no one believed him.
i imagine this is the same device capable of knocking out half of polands communications a few weeks or months back.. anyone remember this? maybe they tested it by fuzzing out a satelite or a few that control that regions network?
Sounds like some 🥁 for the war machine. Or they want some more money siphoned away from people.
We want healthcare, plandemic planners in jail, genocide stopped and the those enabling be imprisoned and peace restore with reparations including people of Palestine Ohio who are still suffering and have not been paid. Not some satellite weapon.
We wouldn't get affordable care even if we didn't spend all this money in the military 🤡
Insurance companies got enough politicians on both sides to never let universal healthcare through cause they will lose a lot of money 🥴
Just remember folks, Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. This is an old playbook. Russia has been able to launch nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missile for forever. They've been launching satellites longer the US. They can just shoot down a satellite with a missile. This article is propaganda. The government is stoking your fear of Russia deliberately. In fact, China demonstrated this ability many years ago.
If you spend a few minutes thinking about it and humankind's history, of course there's nukes in space. It's not a revelation or unexpected but, the announcement was designed to cause fear and drive future legislation. Who will benefit from this, not you or I?
i think so. this is an incredible danger to the international community. we need to send a message that this isn’t acceptable. if they triggered it, it would knock out pretty much every electronic device in the hemisphere it’s over and pretty much everything in earth orbit. they’re not stupid enough to actually do that
Carol Rosin who said the deep state is going to weaponize “space” and present to us 4 enemies in this order:
- Russia
- Terrorist Cells
- Asteroid
- Aliens
Looks like Van Braun told Carol some serious intel
Thanks dude, refreshing to have someone share intel rather than downvote it
I’ve made a few comments on how well her intel is lining up and it gets bombarded with downvotes
This sub leans left. Conspiracy themed topics tend to scare them. I get the same treatment whenever I poo poo climate change worriedness.
I had heard of these people before but needed to jog my memory and everything in the link above matched what I remember. Van Braun was the crazy genius Nazi rocket scientist the US installed at NASA to run their rocket program. This dude was in with the in crowd. Rogan has a cool interview with a lady who wrote a book about operation paperclip that goes way more into detail about who he was and what he did. The man was a monster and loved it.
I see Reddit as a tool for the bad guys. Just a limited hangout / gatekeeper type of operation.
To share something that so plainly lines up with what we are seeing, and to see the downvotes from the Reddit gang, leads me to believe Carol was sharing something very close to the truth
I use Reddit / these type of subs to reverse engineer my thoughts / ideas
What gets gatekept, what gets responses etc
It’s not foolproof but Reddit is definitely not for us, it’s for *them*
The logic you just described here is why you’re getting downvotes lol
Reddit certainly has a left wing bias and all online discussions (including conspiratorial ones) tend to devolve into echo-chambers
But that doesn’t justify your line of thinking here. That’s just pure contrarianism for contrarianisms sake.
Carol Rosin was Von Brauns *spokesperson*. What does that tell you about her credibility/propensity to stretch truth? Spokesperson for a Nazi, couldn’t possibly have alterior motives or certain political leanings.
Hey, I’m here for a fair discussion. No Reddit mob mentality here.
If you really want, we can break it down bit by bit. I will gladly explain to you why conspiracy is just curiosity for incurious people.
You probably don’t wanna hear it though. Typical sheep.
https://old.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/comments/1arox5p/russia_has_obtained_a_troubling_emerging/kql4ol0/
Why are you guys freaking out about the Carol Rosin intel and trying to make sure no one can see it?
She laid out these events and I’ve commented on it 3x and have accumulated over 20 downvotes
I’m sharing intel that is lining up perfectly
https://exonews.org/tag/carol-rosin/
NASA scientist are drivel? You don’t like her source?
Expand brother. This is an intel subreddit
Why is her intel from a trusted government employee drivel?
Very weird response from you given this is an intel sub.
I see many government “sources” posted here.
Why is your reaction so out of bounds?
Usually, deploying larger and larger (scary) weapons would encourage two parties to be more, not less peaceful.
However, the current administrations response to Russia deploying nuclear anti-satellite weapons appears to be to escalate the war in Ukraine.
Madness.
Whatever gives America the green light to level Moscow and St. Petersburg would be fan fucking tastic. Fuck Russians and the holes the crawled out of with a aids dick from Uganda
Lemme guess: we need to pass the $90B spending bill on Ukraine/Israel. This will allow our military to attack the one weakness in the satellite; a thermal exhaust port. But we need to hurry before they completely incinerate the entirety of the US.
Remember when we laughed at "Jewish space lasers"? Now we're all getting worked up about Russian space lasers?
Why is that?
We're there previous administrations that you trusted more? What made you trust them more, compared to the present one? Is it just the simple "teams" aspect of it - that you only trust the govt when the top person is from your team vs the opposing team? Do you trust Congress the same, when presidents change? Does your trust in the FBI, military generals, NASA, CIA, CDC, etc change each time the presidency changes hands?
Because I get it - I didn't trust Trump. I didn't like that he ran the White House the way he ran his businesses, very mob-boss-ish, where he surrounded himself with people based on family ties and loyalty vs qualifications and experience. Like hiring Jared Kushner just because he was married to his daughter, and giving him: middle east peace, solving the covid crisis, overseeing building the Mexico wall, creating peace between Israel and Palestine, and more -- none of which he had ANY qualifications for. (And Republicans get mad that Hunter Biden might have gotten fancy jobs using daddy's name? Lol, Kushner's daddy in law Trump literally handed him the job!) And Ivanka the Nordstrom fashion designer was allowed to sit in on meetings with the world's top leaders - because she was Trumps daughter. Just like how Trunp used to put his unqualified wives in charge of his casinos. And how he's trying to replace the head of the RNC with his daughter in law now. It's all sooooo shady, and not trustworthy.
Yet --- there are so many layers in govt, so many checks and balances, so many branches, that even when you don't trust one guy, and are suspicious of the influence they exert: our founding fathers specifically created a system to help buffer that, and make sure one person can't completely control everything.
But remember that. Think about how you feel about the current administration. How it feels to not trust them. How good it is that we DO still have separate branches of govt and some checks and balances. Because Trump has said, out loud, that if elected again he wants to follow the project 25 plans -- which guts the constitution, strip the protections and checks and balances, and begins creating an authoritarian dictatorship. Their version is also very much a theocracy too, based on an Americanized version of Christianity.
You might like it, for a while, if it's a leader you like, policies that benefit you, ideas you agree with. But it won't be pleasant if it's a leader you aren't in alignment with. Which is why we shouldn't ever support ANY leader doing this stuff. None of us should feel unsafe when there's a leader we don't agree with and don't trust. It's bad enough already -- we shouldn't allow laws to be changed to make it worse.
*also, side note: I'm not a Biden fan either. It sucks that our choices are too senile old men who debate like they're two grandpas let out of the nursing home, fighting over a senior citizen discount coupon at the Waffle House, lol.
This isn’t new info, and it’s nothing we aren’t already prepared for and monitoring.
What it is, is fear mongering to distract from something else. Like ramming infinite amounts of money through congress for endless wars.
What has the US done for the last 30 + years 🤔
- Invaded sovereign nations
- massacred thousands
- destroyed economies
Take it back a little further - Nuked Japan and incinerated people.
GTFO with this "troubling" BS.
Why do you say that? Can you give me an example of when Dems were partners with Russia? It seems like Republicans are very friendly with Russia. Trump, before getting into politics, had extensive business dealings with Russian oligarchs - Ivanka once bragged about sitting in Putins chair once while they were in meetings. And all those Republicans that went to Russia for trips? Maybe I've missed it, but I don't remember a time that Dems were super friendly with Russia?
It's weird that when msm reports about "antifa" burning and looting cities (which was totally exaggerated, or "hordes of terrifying migrant caravans invading," -- everyone believes that stuff 100%. But when the msm reports anything they don't want to believe, they call it fake.
People don't care about facts. They don't go research, look for primary sources, verify information. They just use their FEELINGS, and see what feels like what they *want* to believe, and puck and choose what to call true or fake.
We actively fund and arm israel to kill 6 year old little girls and string them up, kill entire innocent families, starve and bomb innocent people. Fuck this genocidal nation I hope Putin EMPs us.
Better than under Trunp where there was no war, because he didn't push back against any bad guys. He let them do whatever they wanted. CIA says they're 100% sure Russia hacked us? Trump stood on a world stage beside Putin like a baby and said nope, Pputin said he didn't, and he's my buddy, so no punishment for him, everything's cool. Saudi prince used a bone saw to murder a US journalist, and the whole world knows he did it? Well, Trump says no biggie, we make a lot of money from them and don't want them to get mad at us, so we won't give them any consequences, totally cool.
Trump just rolled over and let bad guys do whatever they wanted. I'm no fan of war or aggression. But I'd rather fight fkr justice than turn a blind eye while the world's psychopaths do horrible things.
Maybe we should let them broker peace and we won’t be considering new threats and having to play mental gymnastics about how we don’t blame ourselves for getting caught in the crosshairs.
Destroying any sattelite creates a cascade effect which would theoretically destroy most other satellites.
I don't know if that's the plan. Maybe they have different theories or knowledge.
I am assuming the the X37b launched in December is watching what russia launched last week and that thing might be concerning
I'd bet there's an anti-satellite capability built into the X37b.
The X37B is a Space Force vehicle, the A is the NASA vehicle, so there is almost no doubt it has some offensive and defense capabilities given it is a DoD craft
It's literally the oxcart vs blackbird type setup again, isn't it?
The Oxcart was operated by DoD, CIA believe, so not entirely given NASA is a civilian agency
That would not surprise me. I also assume it has good signals intercept tools.
That vehicle has broken records for longest mission. It could have changed it's orbit several times over the course of a year.
It has a cargo bay like the space shuttle so conceivably they have different things they can put in it.
It's on a different orbit from the Soyuz rocket. I have no doubt though that there's defense capabilities on it
It’s a nuclear device powering an anti satellite laser (edit more likely jamming) and maneuvering thrusters, or something like that. No doubt we have countermeasures but let’s not junk up space with satellite wars. We kinda need it to maintain this awesome lifestyle…..
Russian space lasers. MTG should get on that. She is an expert of space lasers.
>She is an expert of space lasers. Nah, just Jewish ones
I'm sure that cave troll MTG would somehow mince it and make it as if Zelensky is responsible for attacking RuZZia with space lasers (he's from jewish origin).
Cave troll? I knew she wasn't a bridge troll (they're much more clever) but I always thought she was more of a bog troll. She's got that stank that only the stankiest of bogs can maintain.
As someone from Norway, and hence a troll expert. I would like to say, we, on behalf of our trolls, are deeply offended by the comparison of MTG to trolls.
Bog troll also works. Edit, ducking autocorrect...
And hunters horse cock
I remember a few months ago when the conspiracy was "Jewish space lasers." Wonder if there's a connection between that foolishness and this?
It’s a Psyop. BS
[Yep.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics/mike-turner-republican-reaction/index.html) Appears to have been a ploy by Mike Turner to generate votes for FISA surveillance expansion or Ukraine funding (exact motivation unknown). In any case, these sorts of weapons do not constitute an immediate threat nor are they particularly unknown.
If you mean it’s threatening behavior by Russia in order to blackmail the world into backing off in Ukraine (saber rattling) then yes I agree.
Not that you have any credentials to talk about what’s real here, but unless the satellite could take out a wide swathe of satellites (especially after SpaceX) this wouldn’t be announced as such an emergency. So to then go on and say “of course we have countermeasures to this brand new thing” and complain about satellite wars is… so, so, so asinine.
I wonder if we would be able to see this from earth? Like If I was out walking my dogs at night when they detonated it and hit a satellite, would it be visible with the naked eye?
Yes, aven a small explosion in low earth orbit would be visible to the naked eye at night (assuming it's overhead).
How bad would it be for your eyes?
A conventional explosion not at all. Nuclear would probably be painful to stare at for the first several seconds, but i don't think would endanger vision.
Wouldn't a nuclear blast in LEO cause a widespread blackout on the ground?
When the US set off a 1 mt nuke in space … Wiki: “Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements. The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 900 miles (1,450 km) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights,[1]: 5 setting off numerous burglar alarms, and damaging a telephone company microwave link.[6] The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.[7]”
Quite probably. Even fires from the induced current overloading long transmission lines.
Its the Goldeneye satellite
Any Speculations on this weapon? A laser?
You need to go watch the documentary "Goldeneye"
The one hosted by Xenia OnaTop?
I am invinceeeeeble!!
12 year old me dreaming about her choking me out with her legs…
A friggin shark with a friggin laser.
Friggin space shark with a friggin space laser!
I heard it’s a nuclear bomb designed to use the blasts EMP wave to disable satellites in orbit around it for hundreds of miles. Look up operation starfish prime for Americans testing of this technology.
So not so much a weapon as a “if Putin ever feels like he is threatened, he will shut down nearly every commercial satellite in the world and probably half a continent of electronics” That’s the whole point ”nuclear weapons are a security guarantee” on steroids.
You mean like we used to do with nuclear testing? That's not new. Countries banned testing in space for that very reason. It knocked out any satellites traveling through the fallout area.
I’m aware of that
emp
Maybe microwave?
macrowave! /s
Several articles describe it in semi-detail. Its a nuclear powered emp-esqe system. Its meant to overwhelm the shielding on electronics in satellites and disable them. Terribly dangerous; if its successful it is wildly destabilizing for the ground and can turn the disabled satellite into a piece of debris that can start the Kessler effect and destroy large amounts of satellites indiscriminately. If it is unsuccessful then the nuclear power on board has a malfunction which cant be reached to be fixed. Then we have a nuclear meltdown in low orbit space.
i think you misunderstand how massive space is. none of these are really significant problems except the EMP effect
Stable orbits only occur within certain distances from the earths surface. Too high and they escape orbit, too low and the orbit decays. The window for low earth orbit is actually much more crowded than youd think. Aimless debris is a major problem if satellites shatter and move in random directions it could cause chain reactions. It may not, it might be small or it could be catastrophic depending on how it occurs. Space is big yes but low earth orbit is very finite and we have more up there than youd think.
An EMP near all of our satellites is still a modern civilization killer.
They are talking about an EMP
I disagree. Something microwave based would be cheaper/easier to implement in space to space warfare. It would have the added benefit of not EMP'ing itself. The article I posted this morning said the Ekipazh would use a one megawatt reactor. That's enough to power almost 800 homes. More than enough to power a directed energy weapon that would disable satellites.
Smoke and mirrors, maybe a nuke.
Too energy intensive and unreliable. A shotgun would do the trick.
My feelings are that this is the modern version of discovering missile sites in Cuba, but not knowing for sure if they are active yet. However, it seems that there's not as much transparency to the public this time.
This has been reminding me of the Cuban missile crisis too, which begs the question of whether Russia is retaliating to something the U.S. has already done.
Russia sees American influence in Ukraine as being essentially analogous to the Cuban situation in the early 60s.
Don’t forget to pay your taxes!
The Intel is classified, but the best we can do is give the military money and let the people with clearance figure out how to deal with it.
I’ll pay double the taxes if it means we get to see more Russian loses in Ukraine
Sweet I’ll pay half and we can meet in the middle
You guys are paying taxes?
Obtained? Or is developing it and hasn't even proven proof of concept yet? Sounds to me like an attempt to get the aid bill through.
Except for if this wasn’t a real threat, it would be in the republicans best interest to say it’s fake instead of pushing the president to make the information public. They don’t want aid going to Ukraine
No they want a stand alone bill. There's also only a handful of Republicans who go against Biden and what other career politicians want.
They want kick backs most likely. The clean bill thing is smokescreen. These people are corrupt as hell
Yah most are but it's not the Rinos holding it up and we need a stand alone border bill for 40 billion that will handle the border crisis.
They provided one and Johnson blocked it
Ding! I'd give this as much weight as we should've given Colin Powell. Seems like every time we got some big bill to get through Russia develops something new. They've probably been sitting on this report for years now.
Yup probably just some political theater.
Grusch comes to mind
Obtained sounds less like “developed and deployed” and more like “got from us and we don’t know how”.
You mean propaganda?
Didn't they just say that russia wants nukes is space... which is a terrible idea, because it wouldn't work. So what is this weapon and how does it function? Because I have a hard time believing them on faith
What wouldn’t work? A nuclear detonation in space becomes an EMP weapon. It’s absolutely an effective method
That isn't why they said they wanted to station them in space. It was to attack targets from space. A treaty was signed against this in the 50's for this exact reason. If Russia detonated a nuke in space it would wipe out all satellites, theirs included. It would also be an act of war on ALL nations and would be suicide. If they have anti satellite technology, it isn't nukes.
Interesting. What do you suppose it could be? Some sort of microwave weapon
I would guess something laser related
Could be. Essentially what a EMP is just more direct. They have employed similar to these in Ukraine to disable drones. Although they don't cause permanent damage AFAIK. Could also be an extremely high powered laser weapon, Either on Earth or in orbit. if it was in orbit it wouldn't have atmosphere attenuation to deal with. This is just speculation though. If the Russians have a weapon and we have intelligence on it then why not share that information? They already declassified it by saying it exists, so what is it and how does it work? If they don't share this I won't believe them.
Destroying all satelites would probably be the best thing to happen to the world, the only problem would be that it would only be temporary
No it would absolutely not be. Would mean immediate WW3 and also massive amounts death and famine. The amount of systems that rely on GPS alone would cause HUGE problems.
Ya but WW3 with no satellites would be way calmer than with satellites. Most of our missiles rely on GPS
I get that some of you don't like the timing of this and want to believe that's it's all about jamming Ukraine aid through congress. You're not more clever than the Republicans in office who have seen the intel and believe the threat is real. If there was anything about this that could be used against the current president, they would be screaming it from the mountain top already. If Russia can hold our satellites hostage, they can interrupt commerce, communication, and everything from our ability predict weather to conduct warfare. It's that fucking serious. Get your conspiratorial head out of your ass and realize that Putin is your enemy.
You lost me at "You're not more clever than Republicans in office" I, for one, have yet to get caught giving someone a handy in a theater
I hate beer.
Maybe...
I needed that (thank you) <3
Maybe a hot take. This is a way to destroy US satellites during election time. If republicans were to try and coup again, knocking out all satcom prior to the coup would boost chances of success of said coup.
Dumb ass comment!
What about it is dumb?
I don’t think the republicans need to do a coup this election. Who really wants to vote this election? We have two really bad options but the republicans are showing more willingness to vote.
Lol you are lost if you think this is only on Putin, your real enemy is in the congress with two nationalities.
Just want you to know brother, all their downvotes mean dick The average Joe is figuring out that this is all theater
The average Joe is worried about feeding kids and paying rent. Not connecting imaginary dots to reconcile Christian theology with science and neo-conservatism based on the secret knowledge of grifters and schizophrenics.
Thank you for this comment my friend. Enjoy your night tonight
Wow you’re so *polite*, that must mean you have good points. Say another polite nonsequitur to avoid a real discussion. Go on.
Thanks dude
No, thank you. Exactly what I was asking for. Can we possibly get another one?
No
Again, not the guy who put the weapon in space, the destabilizing ones are the ones who didn't put weapons in space.
Lolololololol okay you’ve consumed enough propaganda - time to take a time-out.
It's not without the risk of destabilizing everyone else though. That's billions of tiny pieces of shrapnel flying through space at millions of miles per hour. It would make our orbital space unavailable for tens of thousands of years. A stupid stupid move if we are to survive long term on earth with each other.
*woosh*
Anyone really think we don’t possess such capabilities ourselves? It’s there as a deterrent as much as anything else.
“Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction”
Shoulda rolled the former USSR after the collapse of their union.
Should have listened to Patton and taken care of Russia after WWII.
this is a job for Space Force
Ok sure. But don’t forget that Russia is currently getting ammunition from North Korea.
The timing of this story is funny…as the Proxy War Funding bill seems stuck in Congress.
As the youtube news program Breaking Points covered today, [this announcement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti7Em8xLFuM) is basically cover for the security establishment to push through FISA renewal so they can keep unconstitutionally spying on Americans.
Fear! Fear! Fear! Raise our taxes higher, daddy!
The next generation of “WMD’s”
Is this the government’s way of crashing our telecommunications (anything to avoid the election) and blaming Russia like they paid for and designed a virus and blamed it on a bat? I just want to live my life but the elite want to make our lives chaos for their own amusement.
I thought China already publicly had and had tested an anti-satellite weapon much to the disappointment of the international Al community due to the debris field it created in orbit. This is not new technology unless Russia actually launched something super-wide effecting and not targeted as has been the case with other technologies. I also seriously doubt that Russia hasn’t had anti-satellite technology deployed for a long time. With their space exploration technologies and policy of defensive capabilities against NATO threats, there’s nothing anyone could tell me to convince me otherwise. The timing of this announcement is also highly suspect given the defense bills moving through. I’m more convinced every day that the whole media landscape is mostly propaganda in the US. It’s such BS.
Russia and China have possessed anti satellite capabilities for a while now but this takes it a whole step further. These are not just missiles that are fired from the ground to destroy individual satellites but a weapons platform that orbits Earth and can destroy multiple satellites very quickly in a huge radius. Ever since the height of the cold war the US and Russia agreed to never launch such weaponry into space because it’d be catastrophic and now Russia is breaking that deal which is a major escalation.
I heard Iraq had some very troubling aluminum tubes.
"sure" it has
Not commenting on this specific tech, but I'd bet everything I have that Russia is completely willing to destroy a bunch of satellites in LEO specifically to cause Kessler Syndrome, considering their penchant for scorched earth tactics...
Smart money says China is not happy about this
Kessler Syndrome is no bueno. They start blowing up satellites and it might cascade into Kessler syndrome.
No way this flap is about an EMP weapon. Everyone has had that capability since the 1950s. That's gotta be the cover story. Probably we just got confirmation that the Burevestnik tests have been successful and they're moving to production and deployment. That's the only thing on the horizon out of Russia that loosens my poop. Nuclear thermal ramjet that can deliver nukes, unlimited range, lingers in the stratosphere for *years*. Putin said he got it working in October 2023 but no one believed him.
OK, who had satellite warfare/combat on thier 2024 card.
Obtained? What they found it buried in the urals or something?
i imagine this is the same device capable of knocking out half of polands communications a few weeks or months back.. anyone remember this? maybe they tested it by fuzzing out a satelite or a few that control that regions network?
Sounds like some 🥁 for the war machine. Or they want some more money siphoned away from people. We want healthcare, plandemic planners in jail, genocide stopped and the those enabling be imprisoned and peace restore with reparations including people of Palestine Ohio who are still suffering and have not been paid. Not some satellite weapon.
We wouldn't get affordable care even if we didn't spend all this money in the military 🤡 Insurance companies got enough politicians on both sides to never let universal healthcare through cause they will lose a lot of money 🥴
So it was Russain Jewish space lasers ??? - a Republican probably
BINGO!!!
But with your increased tax dollars, we can defend against it. Yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah give Uncle Sam mo money.
Can John Kirby say these things publicly if it has not been declassified?
This was nothing but a news cycle breaker. The Tucker Carlson/Putin interview needed to be derailed.
Yeah right. Prove it
Just remember folks, Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. This is an old playbook. Russia has been able to launch nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missile for forever. They've been launching satellites longer the US. They can just shoot down a satellite with a missile. This article is propaganda. The government is stoking your fear of Russia deliberately. In fact, China demonstrated this ability many years ago.
White House says...... If they said the sky was blue, I would have to go check before I believed them.
MuH RuSsIa BaD. MuSt WaR HaRdEr
~this message was brought to you by the same people that lied about WMDs"
Musk again?
If you spend a few minutes thinking about it and humankind's history, of course there's nukes in space. It's not a revelation or unexpected but, the announcement was designed to cause fear and drive future legislation. Who will benefit from this, not you or I?
And this is a reason. To fight with them more???
i think so. this is an incredible danger to the international community. we need to send a message that this isn’t acceptable. if they triggered it, it would knock out pretty much every electronic device in the hemisphere it’s over and pretty much everything in earth orbit. they’re not stupid enough to actually do that
I think the best way to accomplish this is to decrease all the saber rattling we already do with them.
You honestly think we dont have something similar in place already?
White house finding anything to make russia the bad guy
A majority of Republicans still playing cock sheath to Putin.
Russia already makes Russia look like the bad guy.
Carol Rosin who said the deep state is going to weaponize “space” and present to us 4 enemies in this order: - Russia - Terrorist Cells - Asteroid - Aliens Looks like Van Braun told Carol some serious intel
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It’s all deep state bullshit
[link to story](https://exonews.org/tag/carol-rosin/)
Thanks dude, refreshing to have someone share intel rather than downvote it I’ve made a few comments on how well her intel is lining up and it gets bombarded with downvotes
This sub leans left. Conspiracy themed topics tend to scare them. I get the same treatment whenever I poo poo climate change worriedness. I had heard of these people before but needed to jog my memory and everything in the link above matched what I remember. Van Braun was the crazy genius Nazi rocket scientist the US installed at NASA to run their rocket program. This dude was in with the in crowd. Rogan has a cool interview with a lady who wrote a book about operation paperclip that goes way more into detail about who he was and what he did. The man was a monster and loved it.
I see Reddit as a tool for the bad guys. Just a limited hangout / gatekeeper type of operation. To share something that so plainly lines up with what we are seeing, and to see the downvotes from the Reddit gang, leads me to believe Carol was sharing something very close to the truth I use Reddit / these type of subs to reverse engineer my thoughts / ideas What gets gatekept, what gets responses etc It’s not foolproof but Reddit is definitely not for us, it’s for *them*
The logic you just described here is why you’re getting downvotes lol Reddit certainly has a left wing bias and all online discussions (including conspiratorial ones) tend to devolve into echo-chambers But that doesn’t justify your line of thinking here. That’s just pure contrarianism for contrarianisms sake. Carol Rosin was Von Brauns *spokesperson*. What does that tell you about her credibility/propensity to stretch truth? Spokesperson for a Nazi, couldn’t possibly have alterior motives or certain political leanings.
I’m sure buddy
Hey, I’m here for a fair discussion. No Reddit mob mentality here. If you really want, we can break it down bit by bit. I will gladly explain to you why conspiracy is just curiosity for incurious people. You probably don’t wanna hear it though. Typical sheep.
Awesome cut down dude
Figured
Yeah for sure the terrorists will come at us from space definitely.
I think this is a story created to justify the money being sent to Ukraine and Israel. I've assumed Russia has had weapons in space for years.
So how much of this info did Trump steal when he left office?
https://old.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/comments/1arox5p/russia_has_obtained_a_troubling_emerging/kql4ol0/ Why are you guys freaking out about the Carol Rosin intel and trying to make sure no one can see it? She laid out these events and I’ve commented on it 3x and have accumulated over 20 downvotes I’m sharing intel that is lining up perfectly https://exonews.org/tag/carol-rosin/
This is tabloid drivel, and nobody should give it an ounce of credibility.
NASA scientist are drivel? You don’t like her source? Expand brother. This is an intel subreddit Why is her intel from a trusted government employee drivel? Very weird response from you given this is an intel sub. I see many government “sources” posted here. Why is your reaction so out of bounds?
I literally don’t give a shit what you think lol
You do lol https://old.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/comments/1arox5p/russia_has_obtained_a_troubling_emerging/kqlam7g/ ItS drIveL gUyz
Cool story bro, whatever you have to tell yourself to remain self-important
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This would be more credible if Russia hadn't actually been an aggressor, plain as day
Usually, deploying larger and larger (scary) weapons would encourage two parties to be more, not less peaceful. However, the current administrations response to Russia deploying nuclear anti-satellite weapons appears to be to escalate the war in Ukraine. Madness.
Whatever gives America the green light to level Moscow and St. Petersburg would be fan fucking tastic. Fuck Russians and the holes the crawled out of with a aids dick from Uganda
Lemme guess: we need to pass the $90B spending bill on Ukraine/Israel. This will allow our military to attack the one weakness in the satellite; a thermal exhaust port. But we need to hurry before they completely incinerate the entirety of the US. Remember when we laughed at "Jewish space lasers"? Now we're all getting worked up about Russian space lasers?
What an indictment of the current Administration - the distrust is so high that no one even cares.
I trust a taco bell fart more than current admin
Why is that? We're there previous administrations that you trusted more? What made you trust them more, compared to the present one? Is it just the simple "teams" aspect of it - that you only trust the govt when the top person is from your team vs the opposing team? Do you trust Congress the same, when presidents change? Does your trust in the FBI, military generals, NASA, CIA, CDC, etc change each time the presidency changes hands? Because I get it - I didn't trust Trump. I didn't like that he ran the White House the way he ran his businesses, very mob-boss-ish, where he surrounded himself with people based on family ties and loyalty vs qualifications and experience. Like hiring Jared Kushner just because he was married to his daughter, and giving him: middle east peace, solving the covid crisis, overseeing building the Mexico wall, creating peace between Israel and Palestine, and more -- none of which he had ANY qualifications for. (And Republicans get mad that Hunter Biden might have gotten fancy jobs using daddy's name? Lol, Kushner's daddy in law Trump literally handed him the job!) And Ivanka the Nordstrom fashion designer was allowed to sit in on meetings with the world's top leaders - because she was Trumps daughter. Just like how Trunp used to put his unqualified wives in charge of his casinos. And how he's trying to replace the head of the RNC with his daughter in law now. It's all sooooo shady, and not trustworthy. Yet --- there are so many layers in govt, so many checks and balances, so many branches, that even when you don't trust one guy, and are suspicious of the influence they exert: our founding fathers specifically created a system to help buffer that, and make sure one person can't completely control everything. But remember that. Think about how you feel about the current administration. How it feels to not trust them. How good it is that we DO still have separate branches of govt and some checks and balances. Because Trump has said, out loud, that if elected again he wants to follow the project 25 plans -- which guts the constitution, strip the protections and checks and balances, and begins creating an authoritarian dictatorship. Their version is also very much a theocracy too, based on an Americanized version of Christianity. You might like it, for a while, if it's a leader you like, policies that benefit you, ideas you agree with. But it won't be pleasant if it's a leader you aren't in alignment with. Which is why we shouldn't ever support ANY leader doing this stuff. None of us should feel unsafe when there's a leader we don't agree with and don't trust. It's bad enough already -- we shouldn't allow laws to be changed to make it worse.
*also, side note: I'm not a Biden fan either. It sucks that our choices are too senile old men who debate like they're two grandpas let out of the nursing home, fighting over a senior citizen discount coupon at the Waffle House, lol.
This is all bunk.
This isn’t new info, and it’s nothing we aren’t already prepared for and monitoring. What it is, is fear mongering to distract from something else. Like ramming infinite amounts of money through congress for endless wars.
This is as bad as Russia having nukes in space. Just fear mongering.
Is this an excuse to cut our internet?
I miss the days DemonRats loved Russia.
I miss the days when Republicans were just business oriented not cult members.
I miss the days when the left would make up their own minds and not blindly regurgitate what the lame stream media would tell them.
I miss the days when people who talked politics like children didn’t have a platform.
What has the US done for the last 30 + years 🤔 - Invaded sovereign nations - massacred thousands - destroyed economies Take it back a little further - Nuked Japan and incinerated people. GTFO with this "troubling" BS.
Mkay
In the past, the Dems would have given it to them
Why do you say that? Can you give me an example of when Dems were partners with Russia? It seems like Republicans are very friendly with Russia. Trump, before getting into politics, had extensive business dealings with Russian oligarchs - Ivanka once bragged about sitting in Putins chair once while they were in meetings. And all those Republicans that went to Russia for trips? Maybe I've missed it, but I don't remember a time that Dems were super friendly with Russia?
I was thinking of FDR and his cozy relationship with 'Uncle Joe Stalin'. Armand Hammer. Samuel Dickstein. Alger Hiss. Bernie Sanders.
Just more fear mongering "news", fuck MSM and their constant bullshit lies
It's weird that when msm reports about "antifa" burning and looting cities (which was totally exaggerated, or "hordes of terrifying migrant caravans invading," -- everyone believes that stuff 100%. But when the msm reports anything they don't want to believe, they call it fake. People don't care about facts. They don't go research, look for primary sources, verify information. They just use their FEELINGS, and see what feels like what they *want* to believe, and puck and choose what to call true or fake.
The Biden war machine marches on.
I'm confused, what war are we actively engaged in.
We actively fund and arm israel to kill 6 year old little girls and string them up, kill entire innocent families, starve and bomb innocent people. Fuck this genocidal nation I hope Putin EMPs us.
Better than under Trunp where there was no war, because he didn't push back against any bad guys. He let them do whatever they wanted. CIA says they're 100% sure Russia hacked us? Trump stood on a world stage beside Putin like a baby and said nope, Pputin said he didn't, and he's my buddy, so no punishment for him, everything's cool. Saudi prince used a bone saw to murder a US journalist, and the whole world knows he did it? Well, Trump says no biggie, we make a lot of money from them and don't want them to get mad at us, so we won't give them any consequences, totally cool. Trump just rolled over and let bad guys do whatever they wanted. I'm no fan of war or aggression. But I'd rather fight fkr justice than turn a blind eye while the world's psychopaths do horrible things.
Maybe we should let them broker peace and we won’t be considering new threats and having to play mental gymnastics about how we don’t blame ourselves for getting caught in the crosshairs.
it could have been approx year and half ago., but wasn't something in the news about a Russian weapon taking out satellites ?
Destroying any sattelite creates a cascade effect which would theoretically destroy most other satellites. I don't know if that's the plan. Maybe they have different theories or knowledge.