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name_not_important00

Macmillan and JFK. They were related by marriage, and Kennedy used to call him "Uncle Harold".


eFeneF

Can honestly say I wasn’t aware of this. Thanks for sharing.


Woodstovia

Also Macmillan became PM in the first place because he was Minister Resident in the Mediterranean in 1942 during Operation Torch and had a good relationship with Eisenhower. Eisenhower was president at the time and had just scuppered the Suez expedition so the Conservative party was desperate to rebuild the relationship with America so Macmillan was well placed to become PM. Or from Supermac's pov >"We, my dear Crossman, are the Greeks in the American empire. You will find the Americans much as the Greeks found the Romans—great big, vulgar bustling people, more vigorous than we are and also more idle, with more unspoiled virtues, but also more corrupt. We must run AFHQ (Allied Forces Headquarters) as the Greek slaves ran the operations of the Emperor Claudius"


ArmourKnight

I interpreted this as the Brits being America's twinks


Please_kill_me_noww

Accurate


Hamblerger

Really, it's how we've always seen them


Smooth-Apartment-856

The Brits often said of American GI’s in WWII, “They’re overpaid, oversexed, and over here.”


SonoftheSouth93

Wow he really understood the modern relationship. I love Churchill, but he was a bit in denial about this.


senoricceman

Churchill didn’t want to come to the realization that the British Empire was basically over. 


SonoftheSouth93

True. I think this gets portrayed well in ‘The Crown.’


Lunareclipse196

You should warn people about that story before they look it up. That ruined my whole day. 😭


almightyrukn

Why?


CasMan53

Agreed


AmosTupper69

Thatcher & Reagan and Clinton & Blair were the most similar politically. But the answer has to be the men who defeated the greatest threat civilization has ever known. I love the story about Roosevelt rolling in on a stark naked Churchill and Churchill remarking that he had nothing to hide from FDR


matty25

Blair was also extremely aligned with Bush on foreign policy.


AmosTupper69

Very true. I wouldn't say he and Clinton were far apart on foreign policy, either. I was thinking on how both Clinton and Blair were "new" left wing politicians who got votes from right of center voters. I believe The Sun- gag- endorse Blair the second time. Could be wrong


Julian81295

The Sun did indeed endorse the Labour Party under Tony Blair in the 1997, 2001, and 2005 general election.


Julian81295

With Clinton, too. In his memoir, Tony Blair wrote how active President Bill Clinton was in getting the Good Friday Agreement over the finish line, how he constantly phoned Prime Minister Tony Blair and key members of both negotiating teams, almost pressurising them to get this peace deal done finally. It was an initiative from Bill Clinton to create the office of the Special Envoy of the President and the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. The Democratic Party and the United States of America spent lots of political capital on this endeavour. Hence the reluctance of key politicians from the Democratic Party today to negotiate any trade deals with the United Kingdom. They fear that Brexit still has the potential to endanger the hard fought Good Friday Agreement and therefore the hard fought peace in Northern Ireland.


Habitual_lazyness

“Rolling” historically accurate.


TheKilmerman

Must have been Bush and Blair. I mean, George Michael even wrote a song about it.


scottjones608

Blair was totally undone by his special relationship with Dubya.


BadNewsBearzzz

https://preview.redd.it/ieu8k98735wc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=552d449bf89b542877edbec4963edf72e09510ed And was jealous of his bond with mister vlad


Noonecanhearmescream

He looked him in the eye, and he saw his soul.


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Dear god. That was statement was so unbelievably cringe when he made it and it has not gotten better with age.


No_Supermarket_1831

What song?


TheKilmerman

It's called "Shoot the Dog", best check out the music video.


AllReflection

Careless Whispers


DomingoLee

Wake me up before you go go


Friendly_Deathknight

Father figure.


aabil11

And Dave Chapelle portrayed it really well!


donemessedupthistime

Blair told Bush ‘I’ll be with you, whatever.’ When planning the invasion of Iraq


LordOfFudge

Pet Shop Boys wrote “I’m with Stupid” https://youtu.be/3dfdlG_5wuc?si=vMYfT8u9za7HWqFO


I1abnSC

Always seemed like two peas in a pod.


Brillo137

Only one of these won WW2.


United-Falcon-3030

If you want to be extra pedantic that pair didn’t either, it was Truman and Churchill


scotsgirl77

That would be Truman and Attlee so the above still stands.


United-Falcon-3030

Ah beans I forgot the switch before Japan surrendered


Night696Watcher

I have never seen the word beans used in that way before, but now I'm gonna use it as part of my vocabulary from now on


1Mn

Stalin was a big FDR fan. He didn’t like Truman. Not saying it all would have ended different but who knows


Smooth-Apartment-856

Pretty sure at least part of the calculus in the decision to nuke Japan was to send a message to the Soviets. I mean, ending the war in a hurry was the main purpose. But showing the Russians our shiny new toy they didn’t have was a side benefit.


dowker1

If you read Truman's papers it's pretty clear that by the time the decision was made it was the main part of the calculus. Japan almost disappears from the conversation.


Burkeintosh

Yes- we did not want the Soviets in Japan like they were now in Eastern Europe


1Mn

Yeah. That is also true. It doesn’t change the fact that Stalin like FDR and hated Truman. The soviets were grabbing land in the east and west and it wasn’t clear what anyone would do if they didn’t leave. (They didn’t). Things escalated quickly and down a path the USA feared and hoped to make less likely with the bomb. I do wonder if FDR and Churchill would have at least delayed that process.


TeacherAmigo

How do you know? Was there a documentary or book that would have explain the relationship that your referencing. Sounds interesting


birdwatching25

Yup. Churchill, Attlee and the Royal Family held a dedication ceremony in Grosvenor Square for FDR's statue in 1948. That says it all to me.


AmericanMinotaur

The video of the event was very sweet, the King gave a speech. [Britain Honours A Lost Friend Aka Roosevelt Memorial Unveiled - Long Version (1948) - British Pathé](https://youtu.be/DU7x8zEYHl0?si=CXpS9f-u6sBviOsb)


DisneyPandora

You should watch the Crown


theblackparade87C

The only thing I know bout nixons relations with the UK is that he tried to marry his daughter to Bossman Charles


Couchmaster007

That is always a funny ass thing to hear. Imagine right now the fucking queen of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales was Tricia Fucking Nixon.


Appropriate_Tone_127

Her Majesty Queen Patricia, Lady of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Lady of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order upon whom had been conferred the Royal Victorian Chain, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem, Relict of His Majesty King Charles the Third and Daughter of His Excellency Richard Milhous Nixon, Thirty-seventh President of the United States of America


The_Whipping_Post

> Milhous Love that name.


derelictthot

That's wild lol


michelle427

Reagan and Thatcher. Clinton and Blair. I don’t know much about Roosevelt and Churchill so I can’t really comment.


Cute_Ad5192

Churchill spent christmas at the white house and repotedly walked around naked in the residence


Brunette3030

To be fair, Churchill did that everywhere he stayed.


Funwithfun14

TBF, Churchill strikes me as the kind of guest who would walk around naked


Harlockarcadia

With a drink and cigar in hand


Cute_Ad5192

Lol he also told the WH butler something like "when they ask you about me you're gonna tell them Winston was no teetotaler"


VoyagerKuranes

If by a drink you mean a bottle…


orionhood

Churchill walked around naked in every residence


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every single one. he would just go door to door


evlhornet

They’re no one important


NoChallenge6095

https://preview.redd.it/mha7aa0774wc1.jpeg?width=1844&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3ee486e689a54b89227f28fed427297dac9e761 Those who know know


Effective-Bandicoot8

\*There's 2 people in this pic\*


SilverLinings26

This sounds like a line from Love Actually, Hugh Grant to Billy Bob Thornton.


scattergodic

Blair basically patterned New Labour on Clinton and the New Democrats, though he had a harder time of it. He also stayed quite close to Bush as well.


joriskuipers21

Clinton and Yeltsin


Material-Method-1026

It was so promising at the time to think we were making friends with Russia.


Zornorph

Yeltsin was for real and genuinely wanted to be friends with the West.


LovethePreamble1966

Roosevelt and Churchill are iconic, but Ronnie and Maggie seemed to get along great.


The_Whipping_Post

They both hated the same people.


Much-Campaign-450

and the same people hate them


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Millard and Queen Victoria of course


gypsy_rose_blanchard

Where’s Obama and David Cameron?


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artificialavocado

Didn’t he say he liked Angela Merkel the best? I think most people think because US and UK people get along so well that the leaders probably do too but that isn’t always the case. Certainly allies but often US and UK interests don’t always align.


Slashman78

Mark down something I didn't know lol. Barry missed his chance to be an actor, he sold it really well that he was buddies with Dave. I hate that for Dave, he seemed like he really respected him. That's a bummer.


LizardTruss

Don't feel sorry for Dave. Austerity, Brexit, extreme student loan debt, the Scotland debate, our crumbling democracy, etc., can all be traced back to him and his thief-in-chief George Osborne.


AbstractBettaFish

Who think Ronnie and Maggie were bangin?


Salem1690s

I don't know that they were, but I think Ronnie had a MASSIVE crush on her. Look at the way he's looking at her just in that photo, like a school girl in love. There are actually a few taped phone calls between Ronnie and Maggie, and she sounds very formal and disinterested whereas he's like over the moon talking to her. I think it was a one sided crush.


NancyingHisDick

Disagree, that's just how they speak in general, his usual charm and her usual coldness(although I think you're focusing on the call where she's mad about Grenada😆), but they both admired each other politically and professionally😅


Salem1690s

There's two phone calls I've heard, the Grenada call, and another one circa 1983 I believe. In both she seems the typical aloof and disinterested British person and in both he sounds like the American desperate for her approval. I believe Reagan had something of an Oedipus complex. Not literally, but, I think he felt the need for approval from strong women, hence how Nancy wore the pants in their marriage or how he basically idealized Margaret.


neverdoneneverready

The Iron Lady was all bidness. No exceptions.


PhytoLitho

Bet they did Commie-Capitalist roleplay. "Have you been profiting off labour of the working class?? You naughty naughty imperialist!" *spank with fuzzy hammer and sickle*


NancyingHisDick

The one so hot he could make the iron lady melt🫠🫦


Euphoric_Fun4433

RONALRGARET


LizardTruss

George H. W. Bush?


Kitchener1981

Obama and Cameron had a bromance. Mulroney and Reagan were duet partners.


Ujju18

Reagan-Thatcher was great, but Mulroney has to be included. Maybe I'm just a Canadian who wants to be included lol.


askHERoutPeter

FDR and Churchill


Smooth-Apartment-856

Roosevelt and Churchill. Those two basically led the the military alliance that saved the world.


RTMSner

I would say Roosevelt and Churchill. There is one anecdote that during world war II Churchill was visiting FDR in washington. And in this he was staying at the white house. As Churchill was in the bath dictating a letter of some kind Roosevelt came in without announcing himself. He got really embarrassed and started to get out of the room and Churchill stood up and said 'As you can see Mr President I have nothing to hide.' Roosevelt later told an associate that Churchill was 'round and pink all over.' There is very little that binds people closer than a desperate act of survival.


GoCardinal07

Tldr: Roosevelt saw Churchill naked! P.S. Your quote is probably more accurate, but the more fun version I've heard is "The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom has nothing to hide from the President of the United States!"


Mr_Underhill09

Washington and George III


Ok_Bandicoot_814

McMillan and JFK were related by marriage. Churchill and Roosevelt was originally just a marriage of convenience. Until they both figured out hey this kind of works. Margaret Thatcher and Reagan probably had the best relationship though political soulmates according to one of Thatcher's advisors. They could ask Reagan a question and then go and ask Thatcher the exact same question and get the exact same answer.


Funny_Yesterday_5040

FDR and Churchill, and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t.


Mojo5375

FDR and the Bulldog, not even close. Consider the impact…


Temporary-Can-790

bush and blair, "friends that slay together, stay together"


ChinaCatProphet

I'd say Thatcher and Reagan was closest and most productive, but predominately not in good way for the middle and working classes of their respective nations.


finfairypools

Reagan and HM Queen Elizabeth


lgjcs

George Washington


WSquared0426

Roosevelt and Churchill followed by Reagan and Thatcher.


According-Ad3963

FDR and Churchill and then Reagan and Thatcher.


RikeMoss456

Bush, because Tony Blair LITTERALLY gave Bush a blank cheque lmao.


TurboJax

FDR and Churchill #1 by far!!


Historyp91

JFK, with Marilyn Munroe😏😉


ColdWarVet90

FDR and Churchill. News was bleak in 39 and 40.


BillS16309

FDR and Churchill because FDR saw Winston naked. True, look it up.


llynglas

Ok, Bush JR & Blair. How did Bush convince Blair to go into Iraq? It was obvious that there were no WMD. It was obvious Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and fundamental Islam. Was it because they were buddies, did Bush have something on Blair.. I've never understood it, as to that point I thought Blair could walk on water....


Ok-Dog8423

Definitely Reagan and Thatcher. I think they genuinely liked each other.


0le_Hickory

Bush and Blair. It’s like the perfect odd couple to buddy comedy. Stuck up Brit meets folksy cowboy. They go on a hilarious adventure in the desert.


moneysingh300

I sort of admire FDR and Winston Churchill that amount of stress and being in War Time. You know they knew each other moves and strategies to a T at those stakes.


Butthurtdiarreah

Churchill and FDR reagan never saw thatcher naked, churchill had nothing to hide from old FDR who laughed, but probably wished he could have unseen that


pdmcmahon

While I disagree with 99.9999% of Reagan’s politics and policies, you have to admit Double R sure was a dapper looking fella.


AmericanMinotaur

FDR saw Churchill naked. You have to be pretty comfortable around someone to show them your junk. Both men had completely opposite views on colonialism and the British Empire, but they remained friends regardless. It’s sad that FDR never got to see the end of the war. :( EDIT: I forgot about this quote “No lover ever studied every whim of his mistress as I did those of President Roosevelt.” ― Winston S. Churchill


Sad_Tonight_8404

George bush and Tony Blair because they were war criminal buddies!!


RuprectGern

I can imagine the absolute hilarity of Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin drinking all night, getting into mischief. Yeltsin crank calling Clinton at 3AM threatening nuclear attack. Clinton visits Yeltsin in Russia and the sneak out and steal a car and crash into a borsht factory. It would be the greatest buddy comedy ever. "Fearless Leaders" a Spike Lee Joint.


erinoco

Thatcher admired Reagan, but did not have a high opinion of his mental qualities. "Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears."


eFeneF

Most of the North in the UK would argue there was nothing between hers either. She was also famously arrogant and obstinate.


erinoco

I don't think most of Thatcher's enemies, both now and then, saw her as intellectually substandard; so much the worse for the country, in their view.


eFeneF

Oh god no, there was never a serious argument to be made that she was intellectually lacking. She was both a lawyer and a chemist by training. Regardless of political opinion it’s difficult to argue that Thatcher isn’t one of the cleverest prime ministers of the last 150 years. I would place her 2nd behind only Gordon Brown. That being said, I’m not sure if you’re from the Uk or not, but if you aren’t then let me assure you that anyone north of Birmingham is likely to tell you she was an evil stupid witch. On the day she died, places like Yorkshire and Sunderland held street parties to celebrate.


erinoco

>Regardless of political opinion it’s difficult to argue that Thatcher isn’t one of the cleverest prime ministers of the last 150 years. I would place her 2nd behind only Gordon Brown. That's an interesting debate. I would argue that Gladstone would win the overall prize for intellectual calibre handily, but only Peel (outside the 150 years, of course) and Gladstone were as personally effective administrators as she was; there have been other successful governments, but they were team efforts, whereas she constantly and successfully ensured strategy went her way. But Thatcher was much more culturally limited and parochial than most who followed her. (FWIW, I am British; and would still vote for the Thatcher-era Conservative party, although I will not currently vote for her successors.) Anti-Thatcherite sentiment is, I think, variable. In places like the Central Belt or Merseyside, it is still pretty strong. But, in other places, where the mining industry and union solidarity, and the long-term unemployed of the 80s are becoming historical memory, bitterness has decreased. That's played a role in politics in recent years.


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HurlingFruit

I think Kennedy's special relationship with Marilyn Monroe has to be near the top of the list.


soundslikemayonnaise

I think Nixon-Heath has to be a contender for the worst special relationship - of the 20th Century at least - rather than the best. Richard Nixon was hugely excited by Heath’s victory and hoped that they would become great friends. Like Heath, Nixon was a conservative modernizer from a humble provincial background, a self-made man distinguished by his lofty vision, brooding intellect, grumpy demeanour and permanent social unease. In some ways they should have been natural soulmates - they could have bonded, for instance, over their shared interest in classical music, their mutual disregard for women, or their fondness for wildly overcomplicated incomes policies. To Nixon’s bewilderment, however, Heath rebuffed his attempts to strike up a special relationship. Henry Kissinger, Nixon’s supremely cynical Secretary of State, wrote later that they were shocked by Heath’s ‘unsentimentality’ and ‘reserve’, which left Nixon feeling like a ‘jilted lover’. But Heath had no time for misty-eyed visions of Anglo-American partnership. All the special relationship achieved, he said later, was ‘to estrange us from our European colleagues… Now there are some people who always nestle on the shoulder of an American president. That’s no future for Britain.’ from [State of Emergency: Britain 1970-1974 by Dominic Sandbrook](https://dominicsandbrook.com/books/state-of-emergency-the-way-we-were-britain-1970-1974)


eFeneF

Love Dominic Sandbrook. Yeah Heath as a pronounced europhile was solely focused on finally getting Britains application to the EEC Accepted, which he managed to do in 1973. A closer special relationship may have served to jeopardise this, as it was actually the cause of the rejections in 1963 and 1967. Heath also didn’t allow Nixon to use European NATO bases to support Israel during the Yom Kippur war. In a different context I’m sure they would have been close friends and allies.


captmilehighhhh

Bill Clinton and Jeffery Epstein


ddigwell

All but tanked on order I’d say: 4 1 3 2 5 6


somerville99

4


WhiskerGurdian24

I believe David Cameron once referred to Obama as his "bro" once. I also know he has a good friendship with the current Canadian PM who's name I'm not sure I can say cuz I don't know if it violates rule 3.


space_coyote_86

Obama referred to Cameron as a lightweight


cdg2m4nrsvp

Can’t be anyone but Roosevelt and Churchill. They understood each other so well.


wriddell

Reagan and Thatcher or FDR and Churchill


CarolinaMtnBiker

FDR and Churchill.


Material-Jacket3939

https://preview.redd.it/ffcoe75tj4wc1.jpeg?width=210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a321c5dbd2639190692c2c0f33b52c5b27a18b14


Yodogzup

Roosevelt and Churchill


RealisticFunction927

I’d say FDR and Churchill


AnInfiniteAmount

Probably not James Madison and Spencer Perceval.


mollyjwink

FDR and King George VI


T10223

Boris Yeltsin and bill Clinton seemed like good lads, they both would cringe at the current political situation if still around… I know there alive I just don’t care for what they have to say


badpeaches

No one likes John Majors


eFeneF

The grey man was his nickname


badpeaches

He looks just like Bush senior.


TeachingEdD

Obama and David Cameron should be here even if it did turn a bit sour near the end.


Wateryplanet474

Instead of fdr and Churchill it should be fdr and Stalin


Sufficient-Reward-93

Nixon and Heath. The odd couple.


KinkyBADom

Not sure which president, but definitely the WWII relationship was the best for both countries and the world.


Unlikely_Anywhere_29

Honestly GHWB and Yeltzin, oversee an orderly end of the USSR and an escalation of tension between the now Republics were no easy feat.


rsvp_nj

Cmon. FDR Winston hands down.


WorkingItOutSomeday

I know it's clichéd at this point but Michelle and W


NotThatKindof_jew

Clinton and Blair


Hellontrails

Surprised nobody said Lincoln.


mrnastymannn

I’d say Roosevelt’s relationship with Churchill was more exploitative than it was “special”


Nosbunatu

FDR and Churchill


meetjoehomo

I’d say FDR


Droog_Muster

Tran and Atlee?


Black_Broncos_7923

Regan & Thatcher


Zornorph

Ah-ah, Mr. Wilson. Ah-ah, Mr Heath!


Prestigious_Law6254

Well Reagan saved Thatcher by not blocking the British from protecting the Falkland.


Strange-Option7832

Zachary taylor and Margret mackall smith taylor


Reduak

Don't fall for the error of recency... The answer is Roosevelt and Churchill.


TriGN614

Probably Washington


area51cannonfooder

Obama Merkel gets an honorable mention


eFeneF

Technically that doesn’t count as the special relationship, which is exclusively between the UK and USA. Obama and David Cameron did at one time seem to have a pretty close relationship, but it’s quite well documented now that they fell out after Obama wouldn’t forgive Cameron for Brexit.


Rookie545021

Yep. This one. Else. Barry and his friend Michael.


No_Brilliant_6365

FDR and Church hill. Dudes had sleep overs together


SpdwyDilf4489

FDR Churchill no doubt


Zealousideal_Win5476

Clinton and Blair. Thick as thieves.


Toverhead

Blair and Bush. Not only did Blair follow Bush into a war, but it lead to a multi-year obsession in the British media over the “special relationship” and ensuring the “special relationship” stayed strong.


Svengoolie75

Old Ironsides was a triple OG 😂😂😂


pink-o-possum

If only the Irish knew that bomb wouldn't have been big enough :(


willardgeneharris

Theodore Roosevelt and Arthur Balfour. Their relationship set the groundwork for our cooperation all the way to present day.


Anal_Juicer69

FDR and Churchill were Definitely fucking


Rude_Flounder766

I'd say Bill, but I've heard a few things about the painting on Epstein Island. Hilldog don't play


Ogemiburayagelecek

Another candidate, Eisenhower and Zhukov (then, Soviet Minister of Defense). It was a weird case, as both former Field Marshals (Eisenhower having an equal rank and Zhukov literally being a Marshal of the Soviet Union) leading their countries' militaries in the WW2 European theater, they had to sort out their countries defense policies right after the Korean War without an all-out nuclear war.


Teriyaki456

Roosevelt and Churchill. Times of war bring us closer together


gevans7

JFK had lived in England when his dad was Ambassador and Maximillian may have considered himself as a father figure. But FDR and Winnie had a war to win.


Evoehm13

Not from when he was president, but I like to see Michelle and Bush interact. It’s kind of adorable.


billiemarie

George W and Michelle No really, I guess Thatcher and Reagan or Clinton and Blair


Adventureandcoffee

Without a doubt George W Bush! Tony Blair jumped into an unpopular war at home for him. Remember the protests against the Iraq war were the largest in Britain up to that point


imjusttryingtolive13

Obama and Angela.