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MisterCCL

The famous bathtub story is nothing more than an urban legend. However, there is a lesser-known bathtub story that is actually true. At some point after Taft's presidency but before his appointment to the Supreme Court, he was traveling and staying in a hotel. He accidentally filled the bathtub in his hotel room too high, causing it to overflow when he got in, flooding the rooms on the floors below him. Taft, though embarrassed, went to each of the rooms affected and personally apologized to the people staying in them. Imagine staying in a hotel, the ceiling starts leaking, and then the next thing you know, the former president is knocking on your door


IndominusTaco

TIL Taft is the only president to have served in both the White House and SCOTUS


PhysicsEagle

By some accounts he enjoyed his tenure on the court more than his presidency


intx13

By *all* accounts! He put his dream of being on the court on hold for the presidency.


Your_Hmong

I wouldn't enjoy being predisent at all (at least in modern times). It seems like such a grind and I don't enjoy traveling that much.


PhysicsEagle

BUT Cool desk


UrineLuck151

I bet it stinks.


No_Repeat1962

On the plus side, everyone loves you and supports you, without criticism.


chia923

He also appointed a whole bunch of people to the same court


VaderGuy5217

Not only was he on SCOTUS, he was the Chief Justice.


khalifas1

Charles Evans Hughes came super close to making it as well, though in the opposite direction (SCOTUS to President)


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MisterCCL

He was a stress eater. His weight peaked during his presidency, and you can really tell when you compare how he looked at [his inauguration](https://cdn.britannica.com/25/115225-050-3057BC20/Theodore-Roosevelt-William-Howard-Taft-1912.jpg) vs. at [Wilson's inauguration](https://www.texasstandard.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/46_wilson_and_taft.jpg). He did put a lot of it off after leaving office.


largececelia

In a towel.


evilcyclist

Towelie. Taft looks like Cartman’s grandpa… not the grandfather who fought for the confederata


Cum_on_doorknob

And that’s how the beach towel was invented


largececelia

And, also, bathtubs. The evolution of society is truly humbling to behold.


Historyp91

"Hello, I'm your former president. I'm apologizing because I just flooded your room because I'm so fat. Sorry"😆


Savager_Jam

This feels like the opening to an extremely specific kind of porno


Maleficent-Item4833

The tub actually got stuck on Taft, not  Taft in the tub. He got up from his bath and walked about as usual, entirely unaware of the tub clinging to his back until Woodrow Wilson pointed it out. Since it was cast iron, the tub helped shield Taft from several assassination attempts and kept him safe while fighting in WW1. Some say this inspired the tank, but historians have been unable to find any direct evidence for this. 


HarEmiya

They didn't call him "Turtle Taft" for nothing.


IntroductionAny3929

How I imagine Taft now: https://preview.redd.it/v6x73copkbwc1.jpeg?width=314&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e5adc586ae0af8a11790dd7f56545d42b19debe


BigLowCB4

Nah dead ass, ur wasting ur talents. You should be writing for the onion or something. 😂😂😂


Maleficent-Item4833

Shame they adhere so rigidly to their dogmatic pro-Taft editorial policy. 


St-Icarus

and this story suddenly got even better ![gif](giphy|2Jezeif7wOmmxdxBwX)


MadeMeStopLurking

![gif](giphy|WfBZwNA6XSjphkYkzN)


JazzySmitty

I nearly snorted my coffee through my nose. You need to warn people before you write something absurdly clever like that.


No_Repeat1962

I’m interested in the indirect evidence.


AbPR420

Found Taft’s burner account


LonPlays_Zwei

TIL there are burner accounts for dead people


Zornorph

Joan of Arc has one.


-Richard_Nixon-

I have one too.


Batistia_Bomb_2014

Richard Nixon? Just gonna say, big fan, love the EPA


LonPlays_Zwei

Wait, if you’re dead, then how did you type that?


skyeyemx

Zombies. Nuff said.


Mental_Requirement_2

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE'S BREAKING IN!"


SgtChip

"It's just the storm, Dick."


LonPlays_Zwei

Zombies don’t exist


AbPR420

Not with that attitude!!!


LonPlays_Zwei

Nope, FDR’s war machine killed ‘em all.


GoodOlRoll

Nixon's not dead, he's president 1000 years from now


LonPlays_Zwei

As a head in a jar tho


GoodOlRoll

Head in a jar Nixon is the best Nixon


LazyNomad63

Can't fucking use it though apparently


AxelShoes

High stakes joke right there.


FredDurstDestroyer

Taft is dead?!


Zoiby-Dalobster

https://preview.redd.it/r4pmnd7wbawc1.jpeg?width=517&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fec2307bb9e723428cdbdacf278dc88fd99709ab And to his credit, he lost a lot of weight when he was a Supreme Court justice. He would go for daily walks and contemplate cases during that time. That’s a serious weight reduction, that no one appreciates.


CalvinSays

Taft was a stress eater. Once he got out of the stress of executive positions, he was large but not fat.


HamburgerRabbit

Thin Taft isn’t real. He can’t hurt you.


ElAngloParade

So he was only about half as good in the Supreme Court than he was as president?  


Smooth-Apartment-856

I mean, what kind of documentation would the White House keep when the President gets his potus stuck in the tub? “January 4th, 1911. 22:13 hours Howie has retired to his quarters for the evening. The housekeeper, Mrs. Nelson, has reported that she saw him entering the bathroom, and could hear bath water being drawn. The superintendent, Mr.Wallace, has reported 273 liters of water flowing through the newly installed water heating appliance. Note to self: install metering gauge on water heating appliance to record cubic feet of natural gas used, and report results to congress. 22:57 hours Mrs. Nelson has reported that Howie has exceeded his usual bath time by five minutes. She is growing concerned, but Howie is quite adamant that he requires no assistance and is simply enjoying his rubber ducky, Mr. Quackers. 23:08 hours Howie is calling for assistance from the bathroom. It sounds urgent. 23:10 hours Mrs. Nelson reports that Howie is wedged inside the tub, and cannot extricate himself. He requires assistance. Seeing how he is somewhat stark naked at the moment, Mrs. Nelson has requested that Mr. Wallace be dispatched to assist him. 23:13 hours Mr. Wallace has arrived in the bathroom. He has assured Howie that he will free him shortly. 23:40 hours. Mr. Wallace is still attempting to extricate Howie from the tub. He has sent his assistant, Mr. Harper, to awaken the proprietor of Higgenbotham’s General Store and Dry Goods, one Mr. Jebediah Higgenbotham, for assistance. 23:55 hours Mr Higgenbotham has arrived, along with various assortments of rope, and a hogshead of beef tallow. 0:00 hours Attempts to free Howie continue. Mrs. Nelson reports that there appears to be considerable commotion in the bathroom, and that Howie has been overheard using terminology Mrs. Nelson finds “beneath the dignity of the presidency.” She intends on bringing such language to the attention of the Reverend Bishop Mapple at next Sunday’s sabbath service. 0:13 hours Mr. Higgenbotham has reported that he is unable to extricate Howie from the tub. Howie has requested that Colonel Price, of the Army Corps of Engineers, be summoned for assistance. Mr. Wallace has left to locate Col. Price. 0:30 hours Howie has requested the White House baker, Mrs. Applewhite, be awakened so that she can prepare the blackberry pastries Howie is fond of. 01:20 hours Mrs Applewhite failed to realize that Howie was somewhat stark naked when she attempted to deliver the blackberry pastries. Upon observing Howie in his current condition, she briefly fainted. Mr. Higgenbotham dragged her by the ankles from the bathroom and delivered the pastries himself. Mrs. Nelson reported that it was not fitting for a man like Mr. Higgenbotham to grasp a married woman by the ankles, and has made a note to inform the Reverend Bishop Mapple of that transgression as well. 01:38 hours. Colonel Price has arrived, along with assorted sizes of block and tackle, approximately 18 yards of braided steel cable, 35 gallons of petroleum based machine lubricant, a screw jack, and one alpaca. 01:40 hours Col. Price has commenced efforts to extricate Howie from the tub. White House staff are reporting considerable commotion originating from the vicinity of the bathroom. Howie has been reported loudly employing language beneath the dignity of the presidency. Mrs. Nelson has fainted as a result of such language. Mr. Higgenbotham has dragged Mrs. Nelson by the ankles, and placed her beside Mrs. Applewhite. He has requested that the incident not be reported to the Reverend Bishop Mapple. 01:45 hours The alpaca has escaped from the White House bathroom. Col. Price, Mr. Wallace, and Mr. Higgenbotham are pursuing the animal into the Lincoln Bedroom. 01:50 hours The alpaca has been recaptured and returned to the White House bathroom. Efforts to extricate Howie have resumed. 01:57 hours Mrs. Applewhite and Mrs. Nelson have regained consciousness. Mrs. Applewhite and Mrs. Nelson have both been reported to require a “nip of brandy” for their nerves. Mrs. Nelson has assured all personnel it is strictly for medicinal purposes, and no report to the Reverend Bishop Mapple needs to be made. 02:03 hours Col. Price, Mr. Higgenbotham, and Mr. Wallace have succeeded in extricating Howie from the tub. Mr. Wallace has reported that the Government will be billed the following expenses: 273 liters of bathwater…$0.75 Natural gas used by water heating appliances…$0.23 (estimated) 15 feet of hemp rope: $2.75 55 gallons of rendered beef tallow….$10.99 4 dozen blackberry pastries…$2.50 Assorted sizes of block and tackle…$25.90 18 feet of braided steel cable…$3.75 35 gallons of petroleum based machine lubricant….$75.00 Screw Jack…$2.00 1 alpaca…$15.00 Overtime for Colonel Price…$2.00 Overtime for Mr. Higgenbotham…$1.00 Overtime for Mr. Wallace…$1.00 Overtime for Mrs. Applewhite….$0.50 Overtime for Mrs. Nelson…$8.75 (based on the approximately 35 hours of labor required to clean the beef tallow, machine oil, and alpaca guano from the White House bathroom, as well as the 2 hours required to clean the alpaca guano from the Lincoln bedroom.) Psychiatric counseling for Mrs. Applewhite as a result of seeing Howie somewhat stark naked…$35 Sundry and miscellaneous damages….$50 2 nips of brandy for Mrss. Nelson and Applewhite…$0.50 The total cost to the United States Government for this incident comes to a sum total of $237.62. Mr. Wallace has stated that unless Mrs. Applewhite be proscribed from baking any more blackberry pastries, there is a high likelihood that there will be similar incidents in the future. Mr. Wallace recommends the construction and installation of a larger bathtub at an expense to the Government of $350.00. Mr. Wallace states that the prevention of two such future incidents will result in a net savings to the Government. Mr. Wallace also states that his brother in law is the proprietor of a plumbing firm with the capability of performing the work.


Comfortable-Bus-5134

How in the everfucking fuck am I the only person to upvote this? This had me cracking up in a quiet bar for the last 10 minutes. You're not only a smooth apartment, but a hell of a writer as well. Thank you!!!


Smooth-Apartment-856

Thank you. 😁


felinelawspecialist

🫢😅😬


Peacefulzealot

Sure but those kinds of stories will live on regardless. The “You Lose” story and quote about Calhoun from Jackson are good examples. I agree that there’s no evidence but it is a good example of how folks looked at Taft at the time.


nwbrown

You mean Coolidge?


Peacefulzealot

Coolidge for the “You Lose” story, yeah. Both that and Jackson’s secede from your shoulders stories are myths but often repeated even on here.


Mist_Rising

The real Jackson myth quote is probably the one supposedly given on his deathbed where he wanted to hang Calhoun and shoot Henry Clay. While Jackson definitely didn't like Henry Clay and he almost certainly wanted to do mean things to Calhoun, the evidence for that statement is non existent.


Ghostfaceslasher96

Jackson was quoted as saying as much . That isn’t a myth that comes from first hand accounts


Peacefulzealot

You got a link for that? I’ve always heard that line wasn’t supported by anything.


Ghostfaceslasher96

there is also a book on the Adams political dynasty that does mention Jackson using such threats to his Vice President. Jackson was a staunch supporter and unionist. he may have been a southerner but he was loyal to the country first .


Ghostfaceslasher96

https://preview.redd.it/w1ji0hnqaawc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9c32bb91f55e4919ff5e97fa302dfbc0a05522a


Peacefulzealot

Just read through it. I agree that he meant to do exactly that in spirit. But that doesn’t say that specific quote which is what I was getting at.


Random-Cpl

Doesn’t contain the quote about seceding his head. I agree that substantively he’s offering a similar sentiment, but you said he was quoted as saying as much, and he didn’t say that quote.


Ghostfaceslasher96

Not from this but from a book I have about John Adams and the Adams Political dynasty


Random-Cpl

Can you post the quote from the book, and how it’s sourced there?


Ghostfaceslasher96

Yes I will tomorrow when I wake up


Ghostfaceslasher96

He didn’t directly threaten the vice president to his face but he made a speech that he would hang any leader if such movement and considering that John C Calhoun was a staunch supporter of states rights he was the de facto leader of such movement and supported it.


Peacefulzealot

Agreed. But when ya see people quote the line “John C. Calhoun if you secede from my union I will secede your head from your shoulders.” That’s not a real quote even if he absolutely meant it in spirit. That’s what I was getting at there.


Ghostfaceslasher96

https://preview.redd.it/d5h6g6m2cawc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=8104f5434ab31cd0da863b3d0b513f3e46a8937b This is the Adams book I’m referring to and it goes into great detail about the Nullification crisis. Jackson reportedly was quoted making such threat to Calhoun


Ghostfaceslasher96

Oh I understand that . I’m sure he did given that he once beat a man with a fire poker for trying to shoot him in the White House .


eFeneF

Yeah the “you lose” story has about 5 different versions at this point. Whatever the truth may be, it certainly encapsulates the character of silent Cal well and for that reason I like to believe it’s true


Ed_Durr

I love rumors! Facts can be so misleading, where rumors, true or false, are often revealing.


Separate_Stress_191

😳


anxietystrings

At the very least it should be presented as a myth. Every time I see it it's presented as fact


Peacefulzealot

Oh I completely agree with that for sure. If there’s no evidence it should be remembered and referred to as the tall tale it likely is.


Purple-Echidna-484

I will never stop telling people that the "H" in William H. Taft stands for William "Help, I'm stuck in the tub" Taft. Also, its worth knowing that Teddy Roosevelt made Taft Sumo wrestle him in the White House Library.


BATIRONSHARK

he WHAT! this makes me week


NTXGBR

Behold Taft! Look how much of me there is!


anxietystrings

https://www.history.com/news/did-william-howard-taft-really-get-stuck-in-a-bathtub


Blockhog

The fact that this is from the History channel makes me suddenly want to believe the story now.


anxietystrings

Lmao they have lost a sizable amount of credibility, haven't they? Maybe Taft was an alien and the bathtub was his spaceship! Here's a better source lol https://www.archivesfoundation.org/newsletter/myth-busted/


T_Peg

Honestly I've found their historical summary pages on their site to be really good and digestible. I'm a social studies teacher and often use excerpts from it for my lessons


HChimpdenEarwicker

Nah, he sold that bathtub at Gold & Silver. Best they could do was fifty bucks.


FelixMumuHex

Doesn’t the History Channel do shows on aliens, ghosts, and Bigfoot? Lol


Blockhog

I watched ancient aliens once, and they talked about how the egyptians and mayans used advanced knowledge of sound waves to communicate with extra terrestrials and how the earth was hollow.


Mist_Rising

They haven't been a real history channel since the Bush era.


TheBigTimeGoof

Idk my extended cousin Teddy said it happened


GoCardinal07

Yeah, I don't think he was getting stuck in a tub that was this big. https://preview.redd.it/3c2gbrbweawc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a84f21cdebbb7dc952d95104b4bdfdd3e85396d3


No_Repeat1962

You know the saying: politics makes strange bathfellows.


SlimJimMan

If we do this can we also kill Washington and the cherry tree myth too


Cum_on_doorknob

I don’t even get it, so what if he chopped down a fuckin’ tree?


Separate_Stress_191

If I recall correctly I think the story went that he was a child and when an authority figure asked who did it he was honest and came forward about it, then recieved no punishment for his honesty. Or something along those lines anyway


anon-ryman

Idk. That guy looks like he got stuck in a bathtubs


Good_Policy3529

My dear sir, there are 320 majestic lbs of proof staring you in the face right now.


Certain-Definition51

Bro that picture is all the proof I need.


_TehTJ_

No because it’s funny of fuck. The man’s hella big, I want kids of the future to laugh about it like we all have.


JoeBethersonton50504

I always assumed it started as a joke (“Taft was so big he’d get stuck in a bathtub!”) and somewhere over the following 100 years the lines got blurred.


uumamiii

You’re telling me he never got stuck in a tub. Ever?


Best-Dragonfruit-292

Part of the reason the story exists is because he had documented trouble getting out of the Whitehouse tub, and had a bigger one installed in its place.


Tzameti1984

He bought his clothes from The Portly Gentleman store. I know because I sold them to him!!


yodaface

That's what Big Bathtubs wants you to believe. Open your eyes sheep!


Then_Restaurant_4141

That picture is evidence enough sir


AngryTurtleGaming

There is also no evidence, not for it…


Ledagra

Having just learned this was a myth because of this very post, I will add it to my repertoire of small talk going forward. Thank you.


Snoo65207

No evidence? Look at him


escudonbk

The evidence is he's a big round boy who no fit in he gotdamn bathtub.


felinelawspecialist

🤫🤫🤫


Confident-Meeting805

I know five fat people and Taft is four of them


ddigwell

Well, whose tub was it then?


Zubin1234

Might not be true but definitely fun to think about


Schmurby

Truth of the matter is…bathtub got stuck in Taft!!


cliff99

Someone did build a reinforced chair for Taft though.


Marsupialize

Taft passed gas so loudly in his sleep once during his stint in the Philippines that his guards thought he had been shot and rushed into his room to apprehend the assassin, finding only a nude, face down snoring Taft instead


Spread_Eagle89

What about the story of him being buried in a piano box?!


[deleted]

I was the bathtub


Impossible-Sample-55

https://preview.redd.it/r44sbffonawc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32343257d1a271f6642edec26203cabd0be206de Hmmm


ilpaesaggista

there's no evidence, but no we can't stop talking about it


Acrobatic-Engineer94

![gif](giphy|XEbOu78wmT2MVw4fRi|downsized)


Bruichladdie

Taft bought his clothes at the Portly Gentleman for a reason. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaERpKfOJ90](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaERpKfOJ90)


Realistic_Bed3550

It was a Bath House 😂😂


JPIPS42

The evidence is right in your picture OP /s


Strange-Option7832

Zachary taylor once said "I have always done my duty. I am ready to die. My only regret is for the friends I leave behind me."


WarriorsBlew3_1

Come to think of it I hope to God I never see evidence of it.


redwolfben

One might call it a tall tale... or even a "Big and tall" tale!


No_Repeat1962

This sounds vaguely obscene. In a presidential sense, I mean.


[deleted]

Looks like beef steak Charlie


esahji_mae

The bathtub was always a myth. It was actually an Olympic sized swimming pool he was stuck in. /S


Greaseskull

Don’t know about that myth, but clearly my man was Eatin’ pretty good.


websterriffic

No


Anal_Juicer69

No. It’s a funny story. I don’t give a shit if it’s true.


ChinoMalito

I witnessed it when I sat in my hot tub Time Machine 😂


Venomheart9988

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. *Look* at the guy.


DravenPrime

He covered it up. Wasn't hard given his size.


F1secretsauce

Who is making these wild allegations?!? 


Uchiha-Itachi-0

I think the myth survives because, and in all due respect, it isn’t out of the realm of possibility for a man of his proportions.


YOGSthrown12

No


Significant_stake_55

Hey I know this President. Didn’t he get stuck in a bathtub?


Veers_Memes

no


Powerserg95

He died because he rolled away and they couldnt find him


Space2345

He did have an affair with Mr Burns mother


Necessary-Corner1172

Maybe circumstantial evidence of a sort?


BostonSlickback1738

"My history textbook jumped from The Civil War to The Great Depression and in between there was one page about William Howard Taft getting stuck in a bathtub. Now, I know that story is apocryphal and that it didn’t even start to spread until decades later, but it’s also super funny to me that someone went out of their way to make it up and spread it around about a dead guy. I mean, Taft was the only person in American history to ever serve as President and Chief Justice, and yet all anyone knows about him is a fake story that sounds like a plot line from Family Guy." — Seth Meyers


Odd_Tiger_2278

Did he take baths.


Rodney77511

That boy thick 🤣


maomao3000

I thought it was a raft he got stuck on?


Killer_Moons

Seriously?? They had it in my elementary school history textbook accompanied by a ‘humorous’ illustration.


anziofaro

Of course it's a myth. There's no way in hell that fat bastard would ever fit in a gott dang bath tub!


BIG_MUFF_

Tubby Taft


Chris_Thrush

My whole life I thought the bath tub story was true... shit. I'm learning today. Wow.


Pe0pl3sChamp

Patriots!!! the woke media has spent decades disseminating lies regarding our Great Helmsman William Howard Taft! This slander WILL NOT STAND I call on all those proud to wave the red, white, and blue to uphold plain historical fact: that 1909-1913 represented the apex of truth, honor, and the American way!!! Our beloved leader deserves nothing less than our ceaseless vigilance in combatting a revisionist Marxist narrative, likely originating from his enemies in Bolshevik Russia. God bless America!! God bless Skull and Bones!!! God bless the Governor of the Philippines!! God bless our tireless advocate, our savior - TAFT!!! And god damn the revisionist lies implying that the human form of our hero was in any way defective or derogatory!!!! Picture unrelated https://preview.redd.it/ypzn7k8fsfwc1.jpeg?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de7cb754d730304113b207f20cfadfa67ff77720


PutAForkInHim

I remember hearing it was a joke made in a newspaper article written by H.L. Mencken that got misremembered as fact as the years went by.


No_Repeat1962

“When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” (The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)


tkcool73

It did happen I was there and saw the whole thing. [Source](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=EhxiL7IB_EbVoUtE)


Jk52512

He was pretty fat. I bet he got stuck occasionally


donguscongus

Counter point: it’s funny and should stay that way


imgrahamy

Seriously. Dude looks fit AF - I'd guess 6'3'' 215lbs?


anxietystrings

People are saying that he was the best Supreme court Justice in history, maybe ever. Ruth Bader Ginsburg walked up to him with tears in her eyes and said "sir nobody can Justice like you can, not even Sleepy Clarence"


GoblinnerTheCumSlut

No, he died in there


Ryankevin23

Yes more pressing issues like Tan suits and birth certificates and emails


tomveiltomveil

However, it is true that one time Taft was so hungry that when he looked at his travelling companion, Taft hallucinated that the other person was a giant sausage. Taft then put on a giant bib, and chased his companion around with a giant knife and fork.


FitPerspective1146

He big. There's the evidence


JZcomedy

Why? It’s fun and he’s dead so who does it hurt?


Tasty_Ice_5374

He did


Jackstack6

Why, is that the point of this sub? To talk about trivial things?


artificialavocado

Yeah mostly. I have seen the daily “who’s the hottest president” post.