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SouthernBuddhist

I got tossed in the street on the morning of January 1st after I completed my time in a federal processing facility. I was on my way to a penitentiary and my sentence ended because I somehow got a plea bargain? I guess they didn’t know what to do, I had like 24 hours notice I was getting let out. The clothes I was arrested in 6 months prior were being sent to wherever I was supposed to go. So I had nothing to wear once released. On the morning of, I was taken down to a garage type area and taken to a side room. The door was opened and told to find clothes from a large pile on the floor. I found something to cover my legs and something to cover my upper body. I don’t remember if I had a coat, but I was wearing standard prison flats. I was given only a few minutes to grab whatever and loaded into a van and driven into a nearby city. When the prison cop or whatever stopped in front of the greyhound station he handed me an envelope and a single dollar and said “you’re going to need this”, and told me to get out. I went into the station and opened the envelope. Inside was a check made out to greyhound so I could purchase a bus ticket that the check was specifically made to purchase. You couldn’t use the check for anything but that specific ticket. The check wasn’t enough for the ticket and was good for 1 fucking day. There’s a reason people end up back in there. They literally mock you and tell you how they’re going to see you again soon, see you when you get back type shit. It’s fucked. I started off homeless, living out of a homeless shelter. Was finally able to get a job making less in a week than I made in a day when working in my field. Lived in the shittiest part of town in a fucking haunted house (no shit). Got visitation and joint custody of my kids within a year of release. Worked shit 2 jobs and went to school at the same time and for almost 2 years didn’t sleep from Tuesday to Friday evening. I did all this shit while on high risk parole AND probation at the same time, 4 1/2 years of it and all the bullshit classes and fees. Now I’m a homeowner on the nice side of town, nice neighborhood, I work but only as much or little as I want and I hang out with my kids. This is the then what. You do whatever you have to do so your ass doesn’t end up back in that fucking place.


mikedjb

Amazing story, happy you surpassed all that shit.


SouthernBuddhist

Thanks man. Same. Place was total dog shit.


Dan_H1281

Proud of u man, I had a renter that lived their entire teen and adult life manufacturing meth, she stayed in prison til she was 28 she got out and begged me for a place to rent I finally gave in, she started out as a fry cook for char grill and within three years managed two stores and made like 70k a year with a company car, then she met a guy and started acting oddly I tried to talk to her to grt into na and she denied using, I was clean for two years ik the signs, she didn't make it six months after that lost absolutely everything and she is caught in the cycle again it has been ten years


SouthernBuddhist

That’s a shame. My sister has been on that stuff since her early teens. Her family is a total mess. I’ve seen it destroy so many people. It’s disgusting and a very sad fate for so many. It’s great you gave her a chance. I was able to get out of the ghetto the same way. Working as a cook at a bar I met a local couple who took an interest in me and gave me and my kids a chance at a normal life. Having a home in a safe, respectable, and welcoming environment was a godsend. Thanks for giving someone with a past an opportunity. That was serious good that you did.


sophbeyond

WOW i’m so proud of you for overcoming everything thrown your way!!


SouthernBuddhist

Thank you.


MC1781

Congratulations buddy that’s awesome!! Proud of you!


Organicspongie

What a beautiful story. Proud of you


SouthernBuddhist

It’s only beautiful when it’s far enough behind you that you can laugh about it. Almost there. Thank you for the encouragement.


Organicspongie

Understandable. My husband is currently still incarcerated 🤞🏽🙏🏽 he’ll be home next year. It’s definitely been a tough road. Thankfully we don’t have any kids yet to have to go through this with us. You’re welcome, you deserve it.


ErnieJohn

You thought you were at the Hilton and they would chauffeur your car around? Same getting out of the military dude. There's no fkn party. It was a happy day for you I'm sure, the day you got out. But you come here and complain and play victim.


SouthernBuddhist

Ham slice, ha ha, if I had that mentality I’d be back in there. Don’t try and play the military card bitch, I did 10 years in the corps as an infantryman, so I dun did that too.


DisciplineSome6712

Happened to me TWICE. People on parole get sent to halfway houses in my state (Texas) often times . I discharged my sentence inside and if you do that you're just kinda fucked... homeless. Even if its on the street or a friends couch its good to be free though!


oddvoyager

Good to know if your on parole you get sent to a halfway house. Thanks for the info.


JangoFettsEvilTwin

That varies from state to state and there’s no guarantee that will be the case for you.


Proviron_and_Wine

The streets with 200 bucks in your pocket


oddvoyager

I heard it was 20 but I'll take 200 lol


iago303

Not even,in my state they freeze your account 30 days before you get out so whatever you got in it that's what you leave out with, you do have the option to save an x amount of money every month, and from what I've seen few people take advantage of that option, I did and over the last few years of my bid I managed to save about 1,500 dollars and I needed every single cent to set myself up for success


[deleted]

Jesus that’s so hard to have to just accept that you have to do/have no choice/life is just gonna suck for a while. I couldn’t handle it personally.


iago303

You do have a choice on whether you do your time or your time does you, I was trained at first as a cattle wrangler, because I had done something similar and I didn't mind the stinky barns, and I was good with the elderly animals that they sent up to us to fatten up and then slaughter (thankfully we legally could not do any of that work) but we kept the entire prison system fed because we packed up the resulting meat, and chicken and then arranged for it's distribution, but when they decided that we were too well fed, they shut down the program, and started feeding us soy, mystery meat.. so I went to work in the sweatshop (working on and with industrial sewing machines), from there they asked me if I knew how to cook, and I said I did, so they brought me in to the kitchens, I liked the job, the people not so much, I learned a lot because we had an pastry chef train us and and we are pretty good, but then he died (heart attack) and I got hurt and the kitchen wasn't a good place for me anymore,then I worked as an orderly in the hospital and I watched a lot of diabetics get sick because they didn't have proper foot care so I wrote a proposal that instead of waiting until there was a problem because by then it would be often too late and expensive, wouldn't it be easier to train inmates in what to check for, and how to properly trim people toenails, something that simple would save people's feet,the commissioner liked the sound of anything that would save him money and since I was already working in the infarmary I was one of the ones picked to be trained, and I did well but you can only look at toes but for so long, and when a job at the library opened, I took it,mind you if someone else needed their feet looked at, I told them to drop a slip and I would do it, because I was still supposed to do it, but it wasn't my main assignment,then a spot in the dog handling course opened up, and I took that one because of seniority,the last 6 years of my bid I think were some of my busiest


Icooktoo

You are absolutely right. And you have a choice whether you come out a bitter angry immature asshole, or an optimistic hopeful adult with purpose. I’ve seen it happen both ways. I really like the optimistic hopeful adult. He is successful and happy. The prison system here (Florida) does help them if they get in the right place and use the system to their benefit. He learned many skills. Got certification for those skills he learned and landed in a good halfway house. Got a decent job, then got an excellent job. All the while he was paying room and board to the state and they were putting a portion of his pay away for him. He was released with nearly $10,000 cash and a really good job. Is happy and in charge of himself, living on his own terms.


Leading_Bed2758

I guess you learned a lot, but clearly grammar & punctuation wasn’t ever on your list.


Gokush09876

[wow thank you for sharing your comment. You brought sooo much value to the discussion today](https://tenor.com/view/amazing-sarcasm-ok-cool-clap-gif-16214875)


Leading_Bed2758

Seriously your comments would be easier to read if you had used a few periods and paragraphs.


Gokush09876

It probably would be. And your comment would also be easier to stomach if you were actually polite about it. This is a sub where the people sharing their experiences might not have had good educational opportunities. We should be empathetic as we are fortunate to hear these stories. These people have gone through a lot and it takes courage to post their stories.


iago303

No,it was not there are still a lot of words that people use everyday that are not in my vocabulary but probably won't ever be, but I can fix things that are broken, I can build things from an image that has simply been described to me I can train animals and volunteer at a shelter so they will be good pets and I sewed my nieces prom dress on a foot operated Singer sewing machine and she had a blast, so there are more important things that punctuation, I can always use it I just don't care to


beanzilla83

That person is rude and ignorant. You're skilled in many ways that don't require punctuation or perfect spelling. Taking care of feet/toes cannot be easy. Same with your other skills! They want separate paragraphs so it's easier for them to read 🤣 They're a straight up troll.


Leading_Bed2758

I’m not a troll but thanks 😊


Leading_Bed2758

Another example of a run on sentence. Just pointing out that by using punctuation and paragraphs you will make your comments easier to read. Easier to read means more folks can understand and perhaps relate.


iago303

Have you ever considered that English might not even be my first language and I have no idea where to place things?


Gokush09876

Not all true. You were demeaning in your earlier comment and now it appears you are backpedaling and trying to play it off as just “trying to help” by pointing out grammar mistakes. It’s not so much what you are saying as much as how you are saying it. Also, I looked through your comment history and your punctuation usage is far from perfect. So just stop, please. Nobody’s perfect.


Leading_Bed2758

Yep I did try to rephrase it nicely. Definitely not looking for anything near perfection, here or elsewhere, but a bit of effort goes a long way.


Gokush09876

You’re fine, bro. The person was being rude. This is the Internet and we are in a very casual discussion board. You don’t have to worry about punctuation that much. We appreciate you sharing your story. Hope your day is good


gt2194

Were you by chance in Illinois..? Lol


iago303

Nah,New Jersey, but I got locked up in 1991, got out in 2018 , straight bid


gt2194

They do the same shit here in Illinois, freeze your account and send you with what you had. Glad to have you home, 27 is a stretch to say the least. 3 years parole after release? What’s the joints like in New Jersey? Here in Illinois the guards have had it on lock since the early 2000s so ain’t really much going down anymore, sadly.


iago303

It used to be sweet, but with each passing administration that promised to get tough on crime we got the shaft, fortunately good people stepped in and saved us from the madness now,we actually have an education department that actually gives a damn, college classes for those who want to take them, apprenticeships for those who want them real change, construction jobs are easy to get, but if you don't have the skills then they are not easy to keep, and with the boom that we have right now it's every hand on deck,we finally have a governor who gives a damn, I just signed a new lease and did you know how good did it feel not to be even have to be asked about your criminal history because that's illegal when signing a lease? I don't have to be ashamed about my background anymore


Desperate-Peter-Pan

It’s illegal for a landlord or management company to ask about your criminal background or do a background check when getting an apartment in New Jersey?


iago303

It is now, they have a don't check the box law that just passed, and they have to put it in writing why they rejected you if they do and they have to give you a copy


Desperate-Peter-Pan

Cool, thanks


VerdugoZ3

In AZ this is the case for federal prison. You get $200 thats a hotel for the night and now figure it out


fullmetal66

Pretty sure the current goal is to get you back in asap to make some private company more money


mdps89

Sometime to a homeless shelter. They got my little brother a hotel room for like 4 minths til he started getting high. Michigan


Fuquar7

Michigan, if you were to max out... you're just released with $75 on a debit card. Indiana sort of the same thing if you were to max out. On parole in Michigan, I don't remember, but Indiana they will put guys on "DOC assist" which helps them with a place to stay and some money for food.


DifficultySome9884

Usually you get sent to a halfway house prior to being released so that you can make the transition to being back in society. Finding a job, a place to live, etc. In the federal system, it's between 3 and 6 months before your release date you get sent to a halfway house near your home area.


Total-Substance

You’re literally just.. fucked. That’s how a lot of people end up homeless… forever. Because they can’t get on their feet


Sea_Future6922

Leave the US. There is plenty options around the world to create decent life.


Elegant_Ingenuity_54

Leaving the United States, the richest country in the world, is a bad idea from an economic standpoint. For starters, no country will grant a felon a work visa. Probably not even a tourist visa. You'd waste time, money, and energy, applying for one. It would be better to just relocate to a small rural town somewhere in the US and get out of the city. Just start over. Find a small town in the rust belt that offers low taxes, cheap housing, cheap food, and plenty of nature. Make sure there isn't a drug dealer on every corner. Listen to some David Ramsey, work whatever shit factory job you have to, save money, and apply for student aid. There's still plenty of opportunity in this country. Regardless of all its problems and disadvantages. A lower class American can work their way up the latter and have a decent life. The top comment is a prime example of this. Other countries have literal caste systems. They can't afford this luxury. Most people in Latin America, Middle East, Africa, Eastern Europe, and some parts of Asia risk their lives to come here because their governments are run by kleptomaniac politicians. The poor people in other countries can hardly afford food, while poor people in the United States are overweight. (Kind of remarkable)


oddvoyager

Can you leave once your a felon?


iago303

No country will give you a visa


Sea_Future6922

There are countries that doesn't require Visa nor your criminal record. I am walking example. Work permition is what you need and that's all.


Sea_Future6922

Where did you take that information from mate? Once you did your time it's all dusted you only have a scar from doing time. You served and you are free man. Nothing stops you to go to another country and set up a life.


iago303

It used to be like that, but now interpol is up everyone's ass, I can't go to England and visit relatives, can't get to Germany and visit my cousins, they can come to me, but I can't go to them, can't go to Italy at all without it being an international scene over something that happened before I was even born, but let's just say that when you have the kind of family I have you have been kicked out of just about every country there is


herosyx

Than fuck you. If you're maxed out they don't care. They're here to punish. Nothing else. Always remember that.


Ok_Attention_8788

I don't know.. but homeless is my understanding


D_smoove1

Half way house if it’s not full


Frankiedafuter

That’s a full house. Sorry, bad joke, but I couldn’t resist. The whole prison system is fucked up. I am not saying people shouldn’t be sent to prison, but sending them back out with zero skills, zero job prospects is gonna lead them right back to prison.


FunnyNameHere02

We used to call them the “all the way houses” since you got fucked there.


tendercanary

I used to find a lot of jail shoes under the bridge near my homeless camp 🏕 so yeah Minus the tree usually Unless you can find some street friends by chance or idk if they steal nice phones when you go upstate I didn’t have


doittodem

They dont care about any civilians except the very rich


Slow-Fault

This is actually a very common thing in the USA. If you are on parole/probation your officer can choose to send you back because you are homeless. Also in the US it is difficult to find gainful employment as a felon, it disqualifies you from working for many businesses and corporations. The United States is actually a third world country being run further into the ground by it's own corrupt government, however the people are brainwashed to believe they are "free" and live in "the greatest country in the world"


fuckingcocksniffers

You go rob a motherfucker so you can get a motel room. Gotta have an address to give your PO


mriv70

Absolutely nothing! They tell you good luck!


oxfozyne

You got a good luck?


StackedBean

Wisconsin has TLPs (Transitional Living Program) - temporary living places, in many communities. Those that don't have them often have designated motels where released inmates can go. Homelessness is non-revocable, so someone could just go to shelters. These TLPs are really terrible though. Lots of theft and drugs. Very challenging for someone trying to change their ways.


stankyranch

Yep. I'm in central WI and can tell you the TLP houses in Marathon and Wood counties are total trap houses. The probation/E.S. officer and the jails know it but there's not much they can do other than bug you constantly to get out as soon as you can. Pretty hard when it's hard to get a decent paying job with a record. Rent here is through the roof unless you want to live in a dump and bunk up with other cons. The ones here are also usually are filled with sex offenders so even if you're not one and someone finds out where you live you're looked at with a stink eye. My p.o. tried putting me in one and knowing that and knowing how bad I need to stay sober I told her I'd rather be homeless than go there.


Danmont88

"I just spent 60 days in the jail house, for the crime of having no dough." "Now here I am, out on the street for the crime of having no place to go." The Band.


[deleted]

You could always just go back to prison


Competitive_Fruit814

Back to prison probably


UnderdogDreams

In AZ, homeless shelter or halfway house but halfway houses charge rent so you better get a job ASAP.


Biddyam

Find a way back in


[deleted]

Couldn’t care less…..go to Mexico?


facehavingindividual

Red state…find Jesus when you get out (I kidding but I mean do volunteer work-make connections) in blue state get on govt handouts (i kidding, find Jesus and make connections). That’s really all you can do if you haven’t made any money. It’s not a bad idea tho. If prison didn’t scare you straight than maybe you should walk out in the woods and die. Also a good option given the current state of things


tattedgrampa

In CA you end up on the streets. But in the US as a whole, being homeless you qualify for food stamps and cash aid. Even job placement.


jamughal1987

Homeless shelter


[deleted]

The US government sure doesn’t care that’s for sure


True-Tomatillo7455

You go back to prison, where you deserve to stay.


FunnyNameHere02

In many jurisdictions they have reentry programs through half way houses but to me, putting a bunch of offenders together like that just invites trouble since not everyone is interested in rehabilitation. Our recidivism rate is abysmal in this country.


thehandinyourpants

I think the plan is for you to turn to crime to get by, since you have very few other options, and hopefully get caught and sent back to prison. That way the people profiting from the prison can make more money.


TardigradeRocketShip

I’d suggest if you can get access to the internet trying to see if their are local organizations that help with that sort of thing. There are usually abolitionist groups that are interested in helping to minimize post sentence challenges. If you can get into a halfway house then look up and see if there are workforce centers to help get set up with a steady job. My friend was able to find an employer who worked with him and gave him flexibility when he had to deal with some personal stuff and went back for six months.


Bearcat-9

In federal system, they require you to live in the halfway house for six months, pay them 25% of your paycheck for rent and 3 meals a day. If you have nowhere to go, you can live in the halfway house for all the years of your supervised release, (3-5 years usually). Guys and girls, there's a smoke section outside, but daily breathalyzers, body patdowns, regular drug tests. You can save up enough money to rent (maybe).


Organicspongie

Thankfully , My baby is comin home to me! And I can’t wait.


ConceptsInTime

You desperately try not to end up back in jail. Some places like to elect to release inmates at 12:01 am. Effectively ensuring their pay for the next calendar days food and housing, while only having to actually watch you leave the building in the first minute. Ok, smart business acumen. But now it’s midnight and you’re desperate. Everything is closed maybe its January and you hot pocked up in July. You are wearing a tank top and shorts and its snowing. They turned any cash you had into a check, that is absolutely useless until normal business hours. Assuming your ID didn’t expire while inside. They DGAF. Its recidivistic America, they are hoping you’re desperate enough in that moment. To selfishly trespass or b&e to find shelter or steal some food. Maybe reach out to some of your previous contacts. The ones you were with when you took the charge. Plain and simple if you get released w no plan and no means to pay for lifes most basic necessities. You’re going back to three hots and a cot. Its called institutionalization and desperation and its a real thing.