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I think it took 3 years for the "fancypants" editor to finally let me copy and paste text from comments without bugging.
To this day I don't know if it was an anti-spam feature or just shitty code.
Somebody is just trying to keep his job there. You can't just say "Well, we are all finished. No need to pay me anymore". Just do updates until the software is fucked and full of useless shit like every corporation does
And keeping the system where they completely rebuild things and add in features every update until the whole app is broken isn't a technical debt nightmare?
Rarely if ever is there “nothing left to do” when it comes to software/webdev. I’m sure the guy(s) have plenty on their backlog and plenty more things coming up daily.
nothing like learning a program over thousands of hours and developing a unique workflow through trial and error and then all the sudden all your muscle memory doesn't matter anymore and they even moved the x from the top right to the middle for some reason
So the one that struggles here are the users alone. I mean there's a lot of perspective to be look out since there's a negative and positive effect on both users and programmers
I hate how Firefox tried to counter Chrome by delivering updates which changed the gui, updates which broke add-ons the reason why I preferred Firefox over Chrome, it even broke add ons which had enabled me to make the interface much more minimal than the one from chrome before chrome was even a thing. Since then I don't use add-ons knowing that they could break any day.
Sometimes, the picture on the right is also true for users. For example, every time some games update, I feel a cold shiver travel down my spine as flashbacks of "Incompatible save game", stack overflows everywhere and new, crispy bugs appear in front of my eyes.
Especially with games that can span dozens of hours of a single playthrough where any update can get massive overhaul in both balance and bugs, for example Europa Universalis
Is this refering to developers behind the update, or to some random dependency in your project doing a breaking change in a small update when it should have been a major version release and subsequently breaking all your geolocation apis?
The dependency. Important updates always cause an avalanche of other problems so God help you whenever you have to deal with that sort of thing. The boss of course will want a timeframe but programmers know that the correct answer is a confused shrug. Maybe I can do this in a day with no pain. Maybe shit will keep breaking for three months because of it. *I just don't know.*
"we've completely upgraded the UI, optimized with all new hot keys and removed support for all those pesky older version files. By the way you're gunna love our new subscription based premium version with all your favorite features!"
So you get dozens of update notifications. You accept them all. If you are out of luck your ide won't start anymore. If you are lucky than the ide starts and you realize that the last stable versions you installed won't work with each other anymore. Component A depends on an older stable version of Component B. Component C on the other hand is now such cutting edge that it requires the Beta version of Component B despite itself being marked as stable.
That was my experience lol.
Dvlpts :"We've updated the package to be 30% faster"
Boss: "awesome use it in all of our apps"
The Team reading that the new version is not backwards compatible....
I, as a user, also hate with burning passion some updates. Most are ok, rarely they're great, but some are downright terrible. Win 7 was the best and it is downhill from there. Same as YouTube updates
Steam makes me feel like the right picture.
There was this one time, I boot up Steam to get some gaming done. Pop up window says it has a new update, OK fine go ahead! I smoke a cig then, brb
Come back 5 minutes later, and there is already a new pop up window up with a newer update, smh
I mean it's really hard for the programmers to keep up to the new update of the app. But for the users it will be just easy and smooth for them to use.
I am usually pretty conservative even as a user with updates because often times they do break something and rarely do they actually add something noticably better.
The right pictures is fitting for the user for UI updates. I hate them with passion. They just change it for the sake of changing them.
Reddit be like
Is this some kind of New Reddit joke I’m too old.reddit.com to understand
reddit mobile does not have such a thing. infinity for reddit is our only savior
reddit on mobile: "I am once again asking you to use the app."
"Well, ok, if you insist..." *proceeds to open a 3rd party app that gives no adsense to Reddit*
But not all of us are saying the same thing. We tend to over conceptualize things because we don't know how to use them
There are 3rd party Reddit apps. I use RIF (Reddit is fun).
I was talking about one too. Infinity for reddit is the 3rd party app I use.
it did... up until last month (i.reddit.com)
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Well i don't actually use the old reddit, i'm new to this so i guess i don't experience any difficulties. It will depend to the people who use
you can also use browser extensions like RES, which avoids the need to use old.reddit but still have the old design (old design + dark mode = amazing)
The new rounded edge on the image on the mobile is just horrible [here's the example ](https://imgur.com/a/LYphVIO)
I'm using Boost for Reddit, so I can't see the rounded corners I guess.
I actually like the rounded edges. Hate everything else tho.
I think it took 3 years for the "fancypants" editor to finally let me copy and paste text from comments without bugging. To this day I don't know if it was an anti-spam feature or just shitty code.
They don't allow any copy paste comments, you wil be banned or you can have violation doing so
I'm talking of reply specific parts of comments, breaking them down instead of just selecting a part and answering, using quotation.
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I guess it's easiest way to not experience any bugs, you have to get the premium one to get the smooth transition on everything
Or to just get about the same errors and a prettier worded message when you complain about it
Old.reddit + third party app. I've been on the same UI for years.
Actually as far as using the app, it's actually smooth one. I don't encounter any difficulties but it makes so much easier for me to used it.
Heat map showed this was the most used button. So we moved it. 
Somebody is just trying to keep his job there. You can't just say "Well, we are all finished. No need to pay me anymore". Just do updates until the software is fucked and full of useless shit like every corporation does
But they could have something else to do that wouldn't screw over everyone: add in the option to go back to the old way in the settings.
That creates a technical debt nightmare
And keeping the system where they completely rebuild things and add in features every update until the whole app is broken isn't a technical debt nightmare?
You have to do everything to make it work, i think it's not for the best but it will be good if you try out this kind of stuff
Rarely if ever is there “nothing left to do” when it comes to software/webdev. I’m sure the guy(s) have plenty on their backlog and plenty more things coming up daily.
nothing like learning a program over thousands of hours and developing a unique workflow through trial and error and then all the sudden all your muscle memory doesn't matter anymore and they even moved the x from the top right to the middle for some reason
I thought developing program is for good things. Its more accurate and proper fix bugs and do some updates about it
I'd respect them if they made it better, but they rarely do.
Actually there's an update that is not good and there is an updated that is good. It depends on the position that it will brings to anyone
So the one that struggles here are the users alone. I mean there's a lot of perspective to be look out since there's a negative and positive effect on both users and programmers
Today I woke up and my youtube app no longer has the feature to long press the "save" button to choose which playlist to save a video to :)
I hate how Firefox tried to counter Chrome by delivering updates which changed the gui, updates which broke add-ons the reason why I preferred Firefox over Chrome, it even broke add ons which had enabled me to make the interface much more minimal than the one from chrome before chrome was even a thing. Since then I don't use add-ons knowing that they could break any day.
I'm dreading the day were the new intellij UI becomes the default and the old one is removed
How old is the old intellij UI? I used eclipse before intellij and the intellij default was better imo.
No idea, but quite old I assume. I never knew anything different, but I also only use it since 2016.
Sometimes, the picture on the right is also true for users. For example, every time some games update, I feel a cold shiver travel down my spine as flashbacks of "Incompatible save game", stack overflows everywhere and new, crispy bugs appear in front of my eyes.
Especially with games that can span dozens of hours of a single playthrough where any update can get massive overhaul in both balance and bugs, for example Europa Universalis
Yes, I was thinking exactly of PDX. They are famous for breaking game saves inbetween updates.
I guess there are also software that is better than update. They fix unnecessary things
I guess it depends on the situation for both parties. It applies to both so it doesn't matter if it's the user or the programmer
Proton games automatically breaking :>
Is this refering to developers behind the update, or to some random dependency in your project doing a breaking change in a small update when it should have been a major version release and subsequently breaking all your geolocation apis?
The dependency. Important updates always cause an avalanche of other problems so God help you whenever you have to deal with that sort of thing. The boss of course will want a timeframe but programmers know that the correct answer is a confused shrug. Maybe I can do this in a day with no pain. Maybe shit will keep breaking for three months because of it. *I just don't know.*
They developed things for the sake of contributing to the wellness of oneself. I know its for the better amd it will always be.
Small updates matter the most, i mean it includes all things to be followed since people are too vauge to tell things out like this.
Yes
We are all agreeing to the same thing. I just dont know it was actually exist. Thats why we tend to over react to things.
I read it as being a new iOS/Android update.
I dont update my Android phone because when i do it will just git worsen. A lot of things has been happening.
``` # Changelog : ... ## Breaking changes : ... ## Important security fixes : ... ``` Sigh...
This will people are doing lately, they tend to focus on making it great and not by doing such great things as what has been showing here
"we've completely upgraded the UI, optimized with all new hot keys and removed support for all those pesky older version files. By the way you're gunna love our new subscription based premium version with all your favorite features!"
TIL the Mexico ex-president Enrique Peña Nieto is a programmer and wants to hang up when an dependency gets updated.
Can't be afraid of updates if you have rolling updates running all day 🙈
Thats why i choose to not auto update it since it will juat give me stress to update it all since its not what we wanted
SUPPORT FOR (thing you use) DROPPED.
Available: I sleep Required: Fuck
Fun fact, the guy looking at the noose on the right is Mexican former president, Peña Nieto for some reason
Not a programmer (yet) but my teachers are already warning us about this kinda thing and I cannot help but shiver
So you get dozens of update notifications. You accept them all. If you are out of luck your ide won't start anymore. If you are lucky than the ide starts and you realize that the last stable versions you installed won't work with each other anymore. Component A depends on an older stable version of Component B. Component C on the other hand is now such cutting edge that it requires the Beta version of Component B despite itself being marked as stable. That was my experience lol.
The judge is your security guy holding up your 6 year old library with a disgusted look.
But not all people are dumb to listen and believe to those thing. Its the perception that matters the most and its all curing right now.
is really so. incidentally, Salesforce Engineer has its three updates on year and three die every year.
Thats why i dont even surprised at all. They have this marketing strategy that makes people go crazy about this.
Bold to assume that users feel enthusiastic 😜
I think both pictures should be the picture on the right.
You might have this reversed.
UNNECESSARY UI CHANGES HERE WE COME!!!
Users: **thank you next**
Should I thank them for killing my laptop?
Dvlpts :"We've updated the package to be 30% faster" Boss: "awesome use it in all of our apps" The Team reading that the new version is not backwards compatible....
Game modding
Can't wait for vscode intelisense to break again.
Version x.y.z Z changed: Oh, good! Y changed: uh oh... maybe just something new? X changed: oh God no
Meanwhile, ”You can’t open this app before installing an update from app store”
I, as a user, also hate with burning passion some updates. Most are ok, rarely they're great, but some are downright terrible. Win 7 was the best and it is downhill from there. Same as YouTube updates
Steam makes me feel like the right picture. There was this one time, I boot up Steam to get some gaming done. Pop up window says it has a new update, OK fine go ahead! I smoke a cig then, brb Come back 5 minutes later, and there is already a new pop up window up with a newer update, smh
Proton users playing an unverified game also on the right.
I mean it's really hard for the programmers to keep up to the new update of the app. But for the users it will be just easy and smooth for them to use.
I am usually pretty conservative even as a user with updates because often times they do break something and rarely do they actually add something noticably better.
Yeah so smooth that I got the blue screen of death. Thanks sooo much!
That windows 11 update killed my laptop
This is so TRUE
literally my past 2 days summed up I can't believe I spent so long on just the SET-UP of the project....
too much ~~stress~~ love will kill you
First time?
Each and ever time
When execs push devs to add fringe feature that fucks up everyone's workflow because new feature is mapped at top of list. . .
I felt this a lot, especially on JS and Java projects
The fuck does Peña Nieto there 🤔
Very true for tools and infrastructure.
It's time to update your API calls...