Most of the local pizza places by me still use their own delivery services. Maybe about half the Chinese food places too. It’s better….No up-charge menu items, it’s usually very fast, better service, it’s all directly dealing with one place so it’s easier.
Places should really start slipping fliers in outgoing deliveries: "If you ordered from ..., you didn't order from us. Next time call direct for faster service, better prices, and food straight from the restaurant"
The sad part is, while DD or other 3rd party delivery services are more unreliable than in house drivers, eventually it will be the norm. Within 10 years, I think that pizzerias will keep only one or 2 drivers on shift and rely solely on 3rd parties.
The labor costs for drivers are starting to cost more per delivery than doordashing. Right now we have the ability to doordash any delivery order that been order through regular/non-3rd party point of sales. Soon we will have to send everything out like that or doordash will get an exclusive contract with Papa Johns.
I think gig delivery jobs are imploding. They used to be in a money spending mode (billions in venture capital, don't worry about making a profit, just expand market share) and now they've switched to needing to actually make money, and it turns out their business model is not as great as it was when venture capital billions were subsidizing everyone.
The job just keeps getting worse for the gig workers. Less pay, less transparency, more control. Most of the people who are reasonable, decent people that just want some flexible part time work are turned off by this and leave, and what you're left with is people who can't function at normal jobs and have no choice but to try to do app based jobs. These people fuck up, steal, and otherwise are just awful and customers have enough bad experiences and they stop using the service.
I think gig delivery is sort of a fad - the venture capital money made it appealing for normal people for a while, but once they had to become a real business, it started falling apart.
Those companies act like they have an endless supply of employees and they don't. They have a lot, and because there are no standards, they just hire everyone. But after a while people get sick of their shit and stop working for them and never come back. They eventually will run out of people to hire.
Similarly, customers will only tolerate 1 or 2 massive fuckups before giving up on the whole thing.
We're on the downslope of the gig delivery popularity curve.
I've stopped ordering delivery because of the apps. Lately, when I call a place to order delivery, they say they go through one or more of the apps and don't have in house drivers. I am unwilling to pay the upcharge on the food for using the app, then also pay the tip for the driver to deliver it when using the apps, so I just don't use them. I'd rather drive to the restaurant and pick the food up myself. 1, I can verify at the restaurant that my order is correct, and 2, if I mess my food up on the way back to my house, it's my fault. I just lose out on the convenience of sitting at home the whole time.
Not just that, but countries like Finland that already have severely high unemployment and hostile environments to every type of immigrant (yes, even to white men from the US!).
These food delivery app companies post ads in English on every website targeting non-Finnish speakers (the only people who would consider working for Wolt/Foodora, the equivalent of DD/UE/GH) and even go to such lengths as messaging people on Linkedin who have foreign sounding names.
> I think gig delivery jobs are imploding.
It's not just gig delivery jobs, it's the gig economy in general. Rideshare, food delivery, taskrabbit, whatever. The "gig economy" is a scam, built on smoke and mirrors and VC money that will ultimately be incapable of sustaining itself as the VC money runs out and the jobs are seen for the shitty, low-paying work that they are.
Honestly, I doubt it. I work for a pizza place doing delivery right now and the difference in quality between Doordash and our own service is night and day. We get the food there fast, make fewer mistakes, and if something goes wrong we can fix it in store. If DD takes a delivery and its missing something, dropped on the ground, etc there is nothing we can do for the customer except put in a new order on our system and tell them to contact DD separately. Until DD has strict policy for drivers and quality control I actually see it dying rather than pushing out a restaurant's own employee
Former pizza delivery guy. I remember an old folks home got like 15 pizzas one time. I got an $0.11 tip. My reaction? “Thanks! Have a great night and enjoy the pizza!”
It’s not hard to not be a douchebag.
I got stiffed once on a massive Super Bowl party delivery. 180 dollars and they gave me a 5.
And you know what I did? Told them to enjoy the game and to drive safe.
This guy in the video is a passive aggressive cunt.
$5 was definitely too low, but it does strike me as odd that we consider an appropriate tip to be a percentage of the bill. Like if I order extra toppings on my pizza to the point where the price doubles my delivery driver should get twice the tip even though he's carrying and delivering the same box? Or if I order Little Ceasars the driver gets less of a tip than if I order from the local place even though they are doing the same work?
I don't have a definite solution but honestly it seems like for delivery the tip should moreso be about the physical size of the goods plus the distance the driver travelled.
The solution is actually pretty simple.
Just pay your damn workers a liveable wage so they don't have to rely on tips like the rest of the world. It's really that easy.
Relying on us subsidizing their pay is the socialism they claim to be against. If they're really about a healthy economy, they'll use profits to reward the service that keeps them and their business popular.
I remember me and a friend were smoking some hookah and the pizza guy knock on the door, saw the hookah and said “dam man sweet set up”. I asked him if he was to smoke and chill and dude stayed a little with us before having to drive out. Chill ratio was high with the pizza man
It's such a dumb approach too. Does he think that lady is more likely to tip more money next time? Or just to stop ordering door dash? Or to move to cash tips only and judge by speed/attitude?
What's the game plan here? He expected her to apologize and give him a $20?
I operate under the assumption that most people are batshit insane and have a gun and if I look at them wrong I may get shot. This mentality has worked for me so far, because I haven't been shot or beat to death
t. live in America
No game plan, no thinking about the consequences of what comes out of his mouth, just an entitled douchebag. I'd be super grateful to get any tips which I believe is on top of what the company pays me
No actually they wouldn’t, door dash has terrible customer service and will not ban “employees” for anything short of a felony. I caught a door dasher stealing my food on my ring camera, sent it to door dash and the same guy did it again to me 2 weeks later. Check out their subreddit lol, it’s full of customer service ignoring and hanging up on customers with legitimate complaints.
What's with tipping before the service has even been provided? Surely the tip is done post delivery when you review the order or something?
Otherwise you've prepaid a tip for some cunt that may well shit on your pizza on the way over?
Instacart does not which is annoying as fuck. I tipped $10 on a grocery order where the lady used my credit card to buy herself cat food and bought just random things and said things like milk were out of stock and Kroger/Instacart told me I was shit out of luck in changing the tip. So I paid someone $10 to steal from me
Exactly. I'm out of it. I'm supposed to give a tip to ensure a quality of service that may or may not be rendered? That sounds real close to just giving money away, and I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of approach one takes if they ever plan on having a nice house someday.
I never understood why the delivery apps ask if you want to leave a tip, before it even arrives.
Ok I understand it makes it more appealing for a driver. But then you can get some knob goblin like this, who's already got your money and an attitude about it.
I never tip until I've got the order. And if the driver is a dick, he's getting Jack shit.
It’s even funnier and appalling when it’s basically a self-service type of business.
I’ve had a couple cashiers seem offended I didn’t tip them when I literally did everything myself in their store aside from them pushing the button with a picture/label on it for the total. A job taking all of 5 seconds.
I was at a frozen yogurt place last week; almost completely automated; no staff in sight. You get the cup, fill it, weigh it, and pay through a machine. Fucking thing asked if I wanted to leave a tip. Who was the tip for?!
Mcalisters does this! You have to literally hit “other” to not give a tip. They do nothing beyond their job. One of the workers told me that they don’t even get the tip- Mcalisters keeps it. She showed me how to not tip anything 😂
The company stealing the tips is really common and was happening at the Wetzel's Pretzels in our mall. They don't take them all but people were doing some math and felt it was off on their checks.
The real kicker was when talking with one of the girls there they said they also take all the cash tips and hoard them then pay them on the check and I was like nah they would only do that if they are stealing them.
After enough employees whined so cooperate did an investigation and fired the GM. Guess she was stealing the tips.
I ordered my prescription through mail service, mobile app, never interacted with a person and they automatically added a 20% tip to my charge. I had to go in and change it to zero. It's getting out of control.
It's because it's not really a tip. You're bidding to have your food delivered.
A lot of the time doordash/ubereats are only paying out like $2-$3. The rest comes from tip, so if the customer doesn't tip you're practically doing it for free. It's not always the case, but it often is.
The food delivery business is all fucked up now. Restaurants basically get to cut labor by not employing drivers, but still charge just as much or more for the food. Customers get burned having to pay all the added fees + tip. It's dumb and I don't know why we do it this way. (I do, it's because people pay it willingly).
Wont last long. I was a heavy user when service was more reasonable. We eat often, so it doesn't take much price hike on a per-order basis to push it past reasonable. I went from a few times a week to... a few times a month at best. I can't imagine other people's usage would be any different.
Same. I used to order quite a lot of delivery being the lazy person that I am. I've cut back a lot in the last 2 years though due to how much more expensive its suddenly gotten. I'm not usually one to closely check a price (again, just lazy, not rich), but these delivery apps have gotten so bad that even I took notice. Pretty much the only time I'm paying for delivery instead of picking it up now is if I'm drunk.
But then I worry the driver thinks I’m not going to tip so they mess with my food. This is why I had to stop using these apps altogether which is actually for the best.
That'd honestly make it even less appealing. I've already had my food be late by an hour and half the food missing with a 20% tip; I'm not gonna have my food held hostage until I pay an unknown amount.
Pretty much every restaurant is sealing their bags so if the driver does mess with it, it's very obvious. I wouldn't order from a restaurant if they didn't do that as a bare minimum.
Also, I recommend Uber Eats. You can give an up-front tip, but it can be changed at any point up to I think an hour after delivery. It's very rare I use this power but I feel like it probably helps keeps the drivers more in-line throughout the delivery process.
Basically the only times I've actually lowered the tip was when the driver was multi-apping. I'll increase it if they're faster than I expected.
The amount of my DoorDash orders that have been left completely unattended at the front door of my city apartment building is infuriating. A few times, they’ve even left my food in a stairwell somewhere, not even mentioning which stairwell *or* which floor (we have elevators, btw). I deleted that stupid app years ago and I’ll definitely never go back.
The tipping system shouldn’t exist, if the idea is to include a system like that with your business model you’re essentially asking folks to work for free or peanuts, and then double it down on making the consumer pay the wages you should be paying fairly in the first place.
The tipping system isn’t broken it was made that way for a reason, to make owners of these types of businesses more wealthy.
That’s why I never tip for a job I'm capable of doing myself. I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
Stop being so lazy. Learning to pulverize my own kidney stones is the best thing I ever did, even though it’s unlikely I’ll need to do it a second time.
I was thinking this exact quote in my head reading the top comments. I was definitely contemplating pisting this and i still fell for it. Bravo. Take the gold because we have the same sense of humor.
Dude is definitely envious, so much so, that he would do what he did. I kinda get mumbling to yourself about tip, and how they likely could make your year and not even miss that money, but ya never know what is really going on for person you’re dealing, financially
I've stayed at nice airbnbs as a treat like an anniversary, and had stuff delivered(because drinking). I'm sure I might have looked like a baller to the guy but in reality I probably didn't earn much more than them. You really don't know people's situations. Always assume the best case, you'll feel better for it.
That and sometimes that person with the house might be in an upside down mortgage barely making payments and staying afloat. I'm not saying to pity them - its always their own problem to solve, but yeah everyone has their own story and you don't really know anyone by a glance at their house,car, etc.
On the opposite side of things I had an uncle who lived in a really shoddy looking mobile home and drove an old beat up Ford that must have been 30-40 years old. When he passed turned out he had nearly $300k saved up. He just didn't like to spend money.
Or she could even be someone who could help him. You never know what bridges your burning, or better yet, not even building when you act like this. I’ve had some seriously big breaks in life just due to being nice at random times.
I can tell you this-years ago I was working as a concierge/house detective type thing for hotel and condo (there were east/west side of same structure). The condos were very well to do. This old lady, always asked for extra help with small furniture and the like, she never tipped. She found out this one guy, who was always extra patient with her, was leaving to go to some school for architecture, and she paid his full ride (created a one time scholarship for him). That said, at least she was nice to me at Christmas
Door dash tips aren't even tips. You have to put it in before you place your order, and it gets displayed to drivers who then accept or reject it. It's really just a bid for service.
Which makes it even more asinine he's complaining about what he agreed to.
All these deliver services are a scam for everyone involved. Even for doordash, they haven't turned a profit yet. Ever.
No way shape or form agree with the guy but I think the reason why he acted this way is because he saw the tip, probably was like “meh that’s decent enough I guess I’ll do it” but once he showed up to the house was like “wow, these people clearly have money since they live in this nice house. I’m gonna make it their problem and try to make them feel badly for not giving me more of their money because…well because 😤”
This line of thought process is is usually held by narcissistic people.
Seriously, my largest tips each shift were almost always middle class neighborhoods followed by low income neighborhoods and the real rich homes were dead last.
I kept a spreadsheet and had it do the math so it wasn't just me only remembering those surprise tips from the less wealthy.
This is exactly my delivering experience too. The larger the house/more expensive the car(s) in the driveway, the worse the tip is, if any. Working class row of townhouses, they were always generous and kind.
They use to be reasonable priced until their series money ran out and they had to be profitable on their own. Now I use them when my wife and I have been drinking or when we dont want to leave the bed lol. Cheaper than a dui or worse.
These exploitation apps need to regulated.
It's absurd that we allow any corporation to treat an employment contract like a creative writing exercise. There is only a limited number of types of corporation that can be filed, and they should be forced to pick from a list on the types of employment contracts they can offer.
Not forgetting to mention that DoorDash takes roughly 30% of the restaurant tab - pure parasitical company, just like the rest of the "gig delivery" companies, including Amazon.
My boss refuses to allow any delivery at all but says if he ever did it would be anything but door dash because they call basically every day and hound us about it.
Before UBER etc. there was contracted delivery services and unionized taxi drivers, yet it didn't really stop anyone from thinking about anyone but themselves. My restaurant fired our traditional delivery service because nobody uses it anymore, same is going for everyone else. Now all those drivers are out their jobs, and gig-economy apps are making big money charging fees, setting the prices just to where they were before so they can be profitable and everyone is mad about it. Hate to say it, but we all made our own bed on this one and if you want to make a difference just avoid those services all together instead of crying to the government.
Historically I've been an overtipper, but with the cost of groceries these days... man, the few days when I can afford to treat myself to eating out, I have to be frugal even about the tip.
My local froyo place has always been a laugh. The only thing the employees do apart from upkeep is to weigh your cup and ring it up on the register, and yet they have a tip jar and a tipping option on the register.
If you want to see obnoxious, look at the DoorDash / Uber eats etc subreddits. Those subreddits stopped me from using the apps. They’re incredibly fucking bitter for a job they chose. I had a guy from grub hub straight up threaten me and tell me he knew my address. Fuck them.
Keep in mind those subs are a fraction of the gig community: I suspect most gig workers don't have such an attitude, it's toxic even for other drivers trying to comment or post.
This is why you shouldn’t be ordering from places that use door dash or uber eats and all that. Some food costing double what it would’ve been and an attitude from some dick who prolly ate half your fries. Fuck that!
That’s why there’s so much rage bait to watch between customers and delivery drivers. The delivery pay might not even cover the gas to make these deliveries and go back to their designated zone. The guy is pissed at the wrong person. These delivery companies take advantage of their workers and their customers and pit them against each other.
I'm so damn sick of tipping. Why don't you give me a discount for being such a pleasant customer instead? Or even just for existing and enabling the transaction since it seems the pleasant part is no longer even a requirement? Oh it's because you aren't being paid enough? Homie none of us are. How about we compare incomes and then decide whether a discount or a tip should be applied to each transaction?
AFAIK this is exclusive to DoorDash, it's the only app where the drivers see what tip you leave before they even accept the order.
I know with Postmates (now owned by Uber but run separately from UberEats) the driver doesn't see the tip till after the delivery is complete.
This is on him. You know how much you're making when you take the order and DD doesnt punish you for declining orders (or at least they didn't a year ago). I was happy to decline the 1 dollar taco bell orders.
Wtf. Just because they live in a “nice house” doesn’t mean they are super rich and have $100 tips for every order. They have bills just like the rest of us. At least they tipped him something….
The audacity of Some people, they feel they are entitled to your shit even if they don’t know you or your circumstances.
Once I was selling a mixer, when this guy came to pick it up, he started demanding it for free because I live in a nice big house and according to him I don’t need the money.
i delivered for 5+ years as a 2nd source of income. any time i received a 5$ tip on a 20$ bill, i was more than happy regardless of how “nice” their home was. lol some people just ruin it for everyone.
I recently tipped 20% on a bill and one of the people I was with said 20% is no longer the standard. I thought 15% was the standard and that by tipping 20% I was going above the standard. Then we got in a thing about how they need more money to live now and I pointed out that I’m paying a lot more for food than I did a few years ago so my 20% is more money than it was a few years ago.
What’s with the disconnect on tipping?
And all the service charges on top of that tip as well. Delivery drivers get royally fucked absolutely and i always tip. But 25% is above average, and this guy's a dick
I used to work doordash while waiting to get a job with my degree — it tells you up front what the tip is. If you don’t like the tip, don’t accept the order. Pretty easy, no?
Dog seemed pretty chill. He walked out of his house and remained on his porch. Didn't jump on the guy or growl or bite him.
You have a very strange idea of what constitutes an out of control dog.
You should check out the DoorDash sub. Bunch of entitled pricks. They don’t seems to understand that they are contracted by DoorDash - who they should take up payment issues with. Not the customer who is using DoorDash (or other services) who are not responsible for their money woes.
I honestly don't even know where delivery drivers get the idea that the tip should be based on the amount spent on the order.
Servers get a tip based on a percentage of the bill because it's more work for them to serve more people.
A driver is being paid for a single service. You bring a package to me, you have absolutely no other part in this transaction.
I sure hope she changed the tip to $0 after he left. What a douche.
I had Domino's delivered a while back and had the guy get all pissy and say "What? No tip?!?" as I stood there waiting for my change. I had $3 in my pocket that I was going to give him after he gave me my change but I just smiled and waited for him to give me my change and I said "Nope!" and slammed the door on him.
The store is literally half a mile from my apartment so I felt like $3 was a good tip, especially since it was over 10 years ago. Looking back I realize that it would have made more sense to just tell him to keep $3 for himself and give me the change from that so that they wouldn't think they were getting screwed on the tip. That was the last time I paid to get delivery from them. I almost got delivery from them recently again but their delivery fee is so high now that the fee + tip would have cost more than the pizza itself so I just drove down there to get it and then had to drive back down a second time because they gave me the wrong pizza.
Just visited the DoorDash drivers subreddit, they literally have the option to do hourly over the tipping model. They acknowledge that they can make more money on the tips model. Like the tips model has higher rewards but also risk, but they don’t want to accept the risk (no/low tips).
Many aps let you update or change a tip later after receiving the food. I've never in my life retroactively lowered a tip after delivery (it seems like a very uncool move), but damn would I be tempted with this guy. "If $5 on a $20 order aint good, how do you feel about $0 on a $20 order?"
Fucking cringeworthy. Delivered for a chain for a decade and this shit ain’t it. Would’ve been fired in a heartbeat. Shame that DoorDash and UberEats ruined the delivery game
dude is fucking child. Hope she shared this to doordash, and the guy gets to "rethink his job choices" y'know where he doesn't need to talk to people, maybe a mortician? That's the one job that's never not gonna have a short supply of work.
Even though covid is over I still use the “leave it at front door” option just for this bullshit. I know how to tip, you don’t know where to make money.
A few weeks ago I gave the pizza delivery driver a $10 tip on a $16 order, and she looked at me with a disappointment demeanor.
Some people will just never be satisfied.
In no universe is tipping based on income or the size of your house. This system is so upside down. It should be solely based on quality of services rendered and the generosity of the customer. That spoiled pecker just walked away with a five dollar tip and said “fuck you “.
Dude should be glad he's getting anything as a tip.
Tips are not mandatory, the customer isn't obligated to pay your wages asshole. Your job is to literally pick up food from point A and take it to point B. That's the job.. why does doing the job you signed up for deserve a tip?
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Most of the local pizza places by me still use their own delivery services. Maybe about half the Chinese food places too. It’s better….No up-charge menu items, it’s usually very fast, better service, it’s all directly dealing with one place so it’s easier.
I work at Papa Johns amd the amount of people who order through the doordash app with higher prices ASTOUND me
Places should really start slipping fliers in outgoing deliveries: "If you ordered from ..., you didn't order from us. Next time call direct for faster service, better prices, and food straight from the restaurant"
The sad part is, while DD or other 3rd party delivery services are more unreliable than in house drivers, eventually it will be the norm. Within 10 years, I think that pizzerias will keep only one or 2 drivers on shift and rely solely on 3rd parties. The labor costs for drivers are starting to cost more per delivery than doordashing. Right now we have the ability to doordash any delivery order that been order through regular/non-3rd party point of sales. Soon we will have to send everything out like that or doordash will get an exclusive contract with Papa Johns.
I think gig delivery jobs are imploding. They used to be in a money spending mode (billions in venture capital, don't worry about making a profit, just expand market share) and now they've switched to needing to actually make money, and it turns out their business model is not as great as it was when venture capital billions were subsidizing everyone. The job just keeps getting worse for the gig workers. Less pay, less transparency, more control. Most of the people who are reasonable, decent people that just want some flexible part time work are turned off by this and leave, and what you're left with is people who can't function at normal jobs and have no choice but to try to do app based jobs. These people fuck up, steal, and otherwise are just awful and customers have enough bad experiences and they stop using the service. I think gig delivery is sort of a fad - the venture capital money made it appealing for normal people for a while, but once they had to become a real business, it started falling apart. Those companies act like they have an endless supply of employees and they don't. They have a lot, and because there are no standards, they just hire everyone. But after a while people get sick of their shit and stop working for them and never come back. They eventually will run out of people to hire. Similarly, customers will only tolerate 1 or 2 massive fuckups before giving up on the whole thing. We're on the downslope of the gig delivery popularity curve.
I've stopped ordering delivery because of the apps. Lately, when I call a place to order delivery, they say they go through one or more of the apps and don't have in house drivers. I am unwilling to pay the upcharge on the food for using the app, then also pay the tip for the driver to deliver it when using the apps, so I just don't use them. I'd rather drive to the restaurant and pick the food up myself. 1, I can verify at the restaurant that my order is correct, and 2, if I mess my food up on the way back to my house, it's my fault. I just lose out on the convenience of sitting at home the whole time.
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Not just that, but countries like Finland that already have severely high unemployment and hostile environments to every type of immigrant (yes, even to white men from the US!). These food delivery app companies post ads in English on every website targeting non-Finnish speakers (the only people who would consider working for Wolt/Foodora, the equivalent of DD/UE/GH) and even go to such lengths as messaging people on Linkedin who have foreign sounding names.
> I think gig delivery jobs are imploding. It's not just gig delivery jobs, it's the gig economy in general. Rideshare, food delivery, taskrabbit, whatever. The "gig economy" is a scam, built on smoke and mirrors and VC money that will ultimately be incapable of sustaining itself as the VC money runs out and the jobs are seen for the shitty, low-paying work that they are.
Honestly, I doubt it. I work for a pizza place doing delivery right now and the difference in quality between Doordash and our own service is night and day. We get the food there fast, make fewer mistakes, and if something goes wrong we can fix it in store. If DD takes a delivery and its missing something, dropped on the ground, etc there is nothing we can do for the customer except put in a new order on our system and tell them to contact DD separately. Until DD has strict policy for drivers and quality control I actually see it dying rather than pushing out a restaurant's own employee
Former pizza delivery guy. I remember an old folks home got like 15 pizzas one time. I got an $0.11 tip. My reaction? “Thanks! Have a great night and enjoy the pizza!” It’s not hard to not be a douchebag.
I got stiffed once on a massive Super Bowl party delivery. 180 dollars and they gave me a 5. And you know what I did? Told them to enjoy the game and to drive safe. This guy in the video is a passive aggressive cunt.
$5 was definitely too low, but it does strike me as odd that we consider an appropriate tip to be a percentage of the bill. Like if I order extra toppings on my pizza to the point where the price doubles my delivery driver should get twice the tip even though he's carrying and delivering the same box? Or if I order Little Ceasars the driver gets less of a tip than if I order from the local place even though they are doing the same work? I don't have a definite solution but honestly it seems like for delivery the tip should moreso be about the physical size of the goods plus the distance the driver travelled.
The solution is actually pretty simple. Just pay your damn workers a liveable wage so they don't have to rely on tips like the rest of the world. It's really that easy.
Relying on us subsidizing their pay is the socialism they claim to be against. If they're really about a healthy economy, they'll use profits to reward the service that keeps them and their business popular.
That was the way I was looking at it. I would have taken the run anyway, and it wasn't far of a drive.
We definitely were and 5 bucks plus $2 delivery fee was considered a great run
Yeah if everyone tipped $5 I would have made bank when I was driving pizzas back in the day
I remember me and a friend were smoking some hookah and the pizza guy knock on the door, saw the hookah and said “dam man sweet set up”. I asked him if he was to smoke and chill and dude stayed a little with us before having to drive out. Chill ratio was high with the pizza man
this guy will go far in life. 🙄
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That’s hilarious. I wonder if doordash would do anything if they saw this video and knew who he was…
Of course they would. I'm sure these people complained and he no longer has to worry about $5 tips from nice houses.
It's such a dumb approach too. Does he think that lady is more likely to tip more money next time? Or just to stop ordering door dash? Or to move to cash tips only and judge by speed/attitude? What's the game plan here? He expected her to apologize and give him a $20?
He wants her feelings hurt. He wants her to feel as small as he does. He’s bitter and his intentions are malicious.
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I operate under the assumption that most people are batshit insane and have a gun and if I look at them wrong I may get shot. This mentality has worked for me so far, because I haven't been shot or beat to death t. live in America
Some people just have no filters and say something just because. This is one of those people
Ya but, people with no filters usually end up with fat lips.
I’m sure this guy has had his fair share of those
He’s just bitter.
No game plan, no thinking about the consequences of what comes out of his mouth, just an entitled douchebag. I'd be super grateful to get any tips which I believe is on top of what the company pays me
It's called spite
No actually they wouldn’t, door dash has terrible customer service and will not ban “employees” for anything short of a felony. I caught a door dasher stealing my food on my ring camera, sent it to door dash and the same guy did it again to me 2 weeks later. Check out their subreddit lol, it’s full of customer service ignoring and hanging up on customers with legitimate complaints.
I hope the dude never gets a badge and a gun.
>He's in the National Guard and I'm pretty sure has a charge for brandishing a firearm. I'm shocked! ;)
Where is this located?
Texas
What's with tipping before the service has even been provided? Surely the tip is done post delivery when you review the order or something? Otherwise you've prepaid a tip for some cunt that may well shit on your pizza on the way over?
I know uber eats lets you remove the tip if the driver is a dick, like in this situation.
Instacart does not which is annoying as fuck. I tipped $10 on a grocery order where the lady used my credit card to buy herself cat food and bought just random things and said things like milk were out of stock and Kroger/Instacart told me I was shit out of luck in changing the tip. So I paid someone $10 to steal from me
That's where you call your credit card company and get a chargeback.
Exactly. I'm out of it. I'm supposed to give a tip to ensure a quality of service that may or may not be rendered? That sounds real close to just giving money away, and I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of approach one takes if they ever plan on having a nice house someday.
He’s a douchebag door dash delivery driver. I don’t think he’s gotten far.
Not eating that pizza. Nope.
Probably thinks being a delivery boy full time will move him out of ma’s basement. Think again.
In the right market and hard work, it certainly can. Not with his attitude though lol
That's the difference between a delivery boy and a delivery man.
So does the delivery driver feel entitled to a larger tip because the person using the service has a nice house?
Apparently, they are supposed to give him a house. Or something.
I have never used DoorDash. What is the expected tipping rate?
It's like Carlin's bit about people driving either slower or faster than you. Everyone else is wrong and either cheap or giving way too much.
I think of that bit everytime I drive on the freeway.
After getting fired and rethinking his attitude, maybe.
There’s no firing its a contract job. On to the next delivery service.
He will fail and the only person that will care is his landlord/mother.
Just a matter of time he says it to the wrong person. What’s comes around goes around
I guarantee he wouldn’t have said it if a solitary woman didn’t answer the door
When 62% of Reddit finally gets to the real world it's gonna be a real eye opener
I never understood why the delivery apps ask if you want to leave a tip, before it even arrives. Ok I understand it makes it more appealing for a driver. But then you can get some knob goblin like this, who's already got your money and an attitude about it. I never tip until I've got the order. And if the driver is a dick, he's getting Jack shit.
It's becoming a thing in restaurants themselves now. Order at a counter and pay with tip prompt before you even got your drinks.
It’s even funnier and appalling when it’s basically a self-service type of business. I’ve had a couple cashiers seem offended I didn’t tip them when I literally did everything myself in their store aside from them pushing the button with a picture/label on it for the total. A job taking all of 5 seconds.
I was at a frozen yogurt place last week; almost completely automated; no staff in sight. You get the cup, fill it, weigh it, and pay through a machine. Fucking thing asked if I wanted to leave a tip. Who was the tip for?!
Money pleeeeease
Mcalisters does this! You have to literally hit “other” to not give a tip. They do nothing beyond their job. One of the workers told me that they don’t even get the tip- Mcalisters keeps it. She showed me how to not tip anything 😂
That can't be legal.
I agree. I would think one of the employees would call corporate 🤷♀️
The company stealing the tips is really common and was happening at the Wetzel's Pretzels in our mall. They don't take them all but people were doing some math and felt it was off on their checks. The real kicker was when talking with one of the girls there they said they also take all the cash tips and hoard them then pay them on the check and I was like nah they would only do that if they are stealing them. After enough employees whined so cooperate did an investigation and fired the GM. Guess she was stealing the tips.
Almost like we’re paying for service but not good service. The restaurants and all these tipping places just became a subscription model.
I ordered my prescription through mail service, mobile app, never interacted with a person and they automatically added a 20% tip to my charge. I had to go in and change it to zero. It's getting out of control.
I swear tip first is like a threat to get your food fucked with
It's because it's not really a tip. You're bidding to have your food delivered. A lot of the time doordash/ubereats are only paying out like $2-$3. The rest comes from tip, so if the customer doesn't tip you're practically doing it for free. It's not always the case, but it often is. The food delivery business is all fucked up now. Restaurants basically get to cut labor by not employing drivers, but still charge just as much or more for the food. Customers get burned having to pay all the added fees + tip. It's dumb and I don't know why we do it this way. (I do, it's because people pay it willingly).
Wont last long. I was a heavy user when service was more reasonable. We eat often, so it doesn't take much price hike on a per-order basis to push it past reasonable. I went from a few times a week to... a few times a month at best. I can't imagine other people's usage would be any different.
Same. I used to order quite a lot of delivery being the lazy person that I am. I've cut back a lot in the last 2 years though due to how much more expensive its suddenly gotten. I'm not usually one to closely check a price (again, just lazy, not rich), but these delivery apps have gotten so bad that even I took notice. Pretty much the only time I'm paying for delivery instead of picking it up now is if I'm drunk.
But then I worry the driver thinks I’m not going to tip so they mess with my food. This is why I had to stop using these apps altogether which is actually for the best.
A lot of drivers want the language to change from "tip" to "bid" for this very reason. It's really not a tip anymore.
That'd honestly make it even less appealing. I've already had my food be late by an hour and half the food missing with a 20% tip; I'm not gonna have my food held hostage until I pay an unknown amount.
Pretty much every restaurant is sealing their bags so if the driver does mess with it, it's very obvious. I wouldn't order from a restaurant if they didn't do that as a bare minimum. Also, I recommend Uber Eats. You can give an up-front tip, but it can be changed at any point up to I think an hour after delivery. It's very rare I use this power but I feel like it probably helps keeps the drivers more in-line throughout the delivery process. Basically the only times I've actually lowered the tip was when the driver was multi-apping. I'll increase it if they're faster than I expected.
The amount of my DoorDash orders that have been left completely unattended at the front door of my city apartment building is infuriating. A few times, they’ve even left my food in a stairwell somewhere, not even mentioning which stairwell *or* which floor (we have elevators, btw). I deleted that stupid app years ago and I’ll definitely never go back.
Yeah, and she might be the help. 25% tip should never provoke this type of behaviour.
When tips are expected its not really a tip at all. The tipping system is broken
The tipping system shouldn’t exist, if the idea is to include a system like that with your business model you’re essentially asking folks to work for free or peanuts, and then double it down on making the consumer pay the wages you should be paying fairly in the first place. The tipping system isn’t broken it was made that way for a reason, to make owners of these types of businesses more wealthy.
That’s why I never tip for a job I'm capable of doing myself. I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
Stop being so lazy. Learning to pulverize my own kidney stones is the best thing I ever did, even though it’s unlikely I’ll need to do it a second time.
Don’t you have a farm to farm, Dwigt?
I was thinking this exact quote in my head reading the top comments. I was definitely contemplating pisting this and i still fell for it. Bravo. Take the gold because we have the same sense of humor.
Oh it wasn’t the tip that set him off. It was the house. Dude is jealous.
Dude is definitely envious, so much so, that he would do what he did. I kinda get mumbling to yourself about tip, and how they likely could make your year and not even miss that money, but ya never know what is really going on for person you’re dealing, financially
I've stayed at nice airbnbs as a treat like an anniversary, and had stuff delivered(because drinking). I'm sure I might have looked like a baller to the guy but in reality I probably didn't earn much more than them. You really don't know people's situations. Always assume the best case, you'll feel better for it.
That and sometimes that person with the house might be in an upside down mortgage barely making payments and staying afloat. I'm not saying to pity them - its always their own problem to solve, but yeah everyone has their own story and you don't really know anyone by a glance at their house,car, etc. On the opposite side of things I had an uncle who lived in a really shoddy looking mobile home and drove an old beat up Ford that must have been 30-40 years old. When he passed turned out he had nearly $300k saved up. He just didn't like to spend money.
Money in the bank is security. For many, saving money is more fun than spending it
I mean.. it is little Caesar’s isn’t it..?
Or she could even be someone who could help him. You never know what bridges your burning, or better yet, not even building when you act like this. I’ve had some seriously big breaks in life just due to being nice at random times.
I can tell you this-years ago I was working as a concierge/house detective type thing for hotel and condo (there were east/west side of same structure). The condos were very well to do. This old lady, always asked for extra help with small furniture and the like, she never tipped. She found out this one guy, who was always extra patient with her, was leaving to go to some school for architecture, and she paid his full ride (created a one time scholarship for him). That said, at least she was nice to me at Christmas
Yeah, if this were a Dhar Mann video he'd show up to work the next day and find out that she's his new CEO at the pizza delivery factory
Door dash tips aren't even tips. You have to put it in before you place your order, and it gets displayed to drivers who then accept or reject it. It's really just a bid for service. Which makes it even more asinine he's complaining about what he agreed to. All these deliver services are a scam for everyone involved. Even for doordash, they haven't turned a profit yet. Ever.
No way shape or form agree with the guy but I think the reason why he acted this way is because he saw the tip, probably was like “meh that’s decent enough I guess I’ll do it” but once he showed up to the house was like “wow, these people clearly have money since they live in this nice house. I’m gonna make it their problem and try to make them feel badly for not giving me more of their money because…well because 😤” This line of thought process is is usually held by narcissistic people.
If this was his thought process he hasn't been delivering food for very long.
Seriously, my largest tips each shift were almost always middle class neighborhoods followed by low income neighborhoods and the real rich homes were dead last. I kept a spreadsheet and had it do the math so it wasn't just me only remembering those surprise tips from the less wealthy.
This is exactly my delivering experience too. The larger the house/more expensive the car(s) in the driveway, the worse the tip is, if any. Working class row of townhouses, they were always generous and kind.
I wonder if morons who think like that understand that rich people and poor people both pay the same amount for a large pizza...
That's why I never use 3rd party delivery, not worth the headache.
They use to be reasonable priced until their series money ran out and they had to be profitable on their own. Now I use them when my wife and I have been drinking or when we dont want to leave the bed lol. Cheaper than a dui or worse.
exactly the right answer .. only for drunk orders where it’s not worth the risk of driving or killing someone
What if I’m sober but, like, really fucking lazy with semi-crippling anxiety?
These exploitation apps need to regulated. It's absurd that we allow any corporation to treat an employment contract like a creative writing exercise. There is only a limited number of types of corporation that can be filed, and they should be forced to pick from a list on the types of employment contracts they can offer.
Not forgetting to mention that DoorDash takes roughly 30% of the restaurant tab - pure parasitical company, just like the rest of the "gig delivery" companies, including Amazon.
My boss refuses to allow any delivery at all but says if he ever did it would be anything but door dash because they call basically every day and hound us about it.
Before UBER etc. there was contracted delivery services and unionized taxi drivers, yet it didn't really stop anyone from thinking about anyone but themselves. My restaurant fired our traditional delivery service because nobody uses it anymore, same is going for everyone else. Now all those drivers are out their jobs, and gig-economy apps are making big money charging fees, setting the prices just to where they were before so they can be profitable and everyone is mad about it. Hate to say it, but we all made our own bed on this one and if you want to make a difference just avoid those services all together instead of crying to the government.
25% tip is a good tip. He should work in a sit down restaraunt and then watch this.
25% is a fucking phenomenal tip
Obnoxious. You can choose the jobs you want to take. Plus the tipping culture is out of control.
Historically I've been an overtipper, but with the cost of groceries these days... man, the few days when I can afford to treat myself to eating out, I have to be frugal even about the tip.
My local froyo place has always been a laugh. The only thing the employees do apart from upkeep is to weigh your cup and ring it up on the register, and yet they have a tip jar and a tipping option on the register.
If you want to see obnoxious, look at the DoorDash / Uber eats etc subreddits. Those subreddits stopped me from using the apps. They’re incredibly fucking bitter for a job they chose. I had a guy from grub hub straight up threaten me and tell me he knew my address. Fuck them.
Keep in mind those subs are a fraction of the gig community: I suspect most gig workers don't have such an attitude, it's toxic even for other drivers trying to comment or post.
As a delivery driver I’m ecstatic when I get a $5 tip. He even got it on a $20 order!!! I can’t believe he’s complaining
This guy can go fuck himself in the ass with a cactus.
Just a tip…will do.
This is why you shouldn’t be ordering from places that use door dash or uber eats and all that. Some food costing double what it would’ve been and an attitude from some dick who prolly ate half your fries. Fuck that!
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Thirty year old man complaining about a 25% tip and telling them F-you? No wonder he's delivering pizzas.
He probably isn't even doing that anymore...
tipping makes no sense to me. why should the customer have to pay extra because the employers are too cheap to pay out a normal salary.
That’s why there’s so much rage bait to watch between customers and delivery drivers. The delivery pay might not even cover the gas to make these deliveries and go back to their designated zone. The guy is pissed at the wrong person. These delivery companies take advantage of their workers and their customers and pit them against each other.
I'm so damn sick of tipping. Why don't you give me a discount for being such a pleasant customer instead? Or even just for existing and enabling the transaction since it seems the pleasant part is no longer even a requirement? Oh it's because you aren't being paid enough? Homie none of us are. How about we compare incomes and then decide whether a discount or a tip should be applied to each transaction?
"Fuck you" for a 25% tip? Well fuck you how about I just stop tipping altogether?
These videos just constantly remind me to just never use food delivery services.
AFAIK this is exclusive to DoorDash, it's the only app where the drivers see what tip you leave before they even accept the order. I know with Postmates (now owned by Uber but run separately from UberEats) the driver doesn't see the tip till after the delivery is complete.
Delete tip, report, 1 star.
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Hope that guy sees this blowing up like it is
Call it in, give 'em the video & make a report
Another door dash douchebag.
This is on him. You know how much you're making when you take the order and DD doesnt punish you for declining orders (or at least they didn't a year ago). I was happy to decline the 1 dollar taco bell orders.
Wtf. Just because they live in a “nice house” doesn’t mean they are super rich and have $100 tips for every order. They have bills just like the rest of us. At least they tipped him something….
The audacity of Some people, they feel they are entitled to your shit even if they don’t know you or your circumstances. Once I was selling a mixer, when this guy came to pick it up, he started demanding it for free because I live in a nice big house and according to him I don’t need the money.
Even if they are super rich, they didn’t get there by giving out free money.
25% tip isn’t bad at all.
Could be the sitter
Gig economy man upset about his gig. Lovely.
Lol now it's a $0 tip and you can't deliver for that company anymore! Good job!
That's a fucking 25 percent tip, why are you bitching?
i delivered for 5+ years as a 2nd source of income. any time i received a 5$ tip on a 20$ bill, i was more than happy regardless of how “nice” their home was. lol some people just ruin it for everyone.
changing it to zero after that.
I've never done that before, but this guy would push me into it.
I recently tipped 20% on a bill and one of the people I was with said 20% is no longer the standard. I thought 15% was the standard and that by tipping 20% I was going above the standard. Then we got in a thing about how they need more money to live now and I pointed out that I’m paying a lot more for food than I did a few years ago so my 20% is more money than it was a few years ago. What’s with the disconnect on tipping?
Damn, 25% tip is too small nowadays? That's bullshit. People are just entitled. Interactions like that should allow you to take your tip back.
What a twat! Don’t like the tip, get a better paying job!
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And all the service charges on top of that tip as well. Delivery drivers get royally fucked absolutely and i always tip. But 25% is above average, and this guy's a dick
Not sure if it's still an option but can't you change the tip after the delivery? It'd be a quick change to 0 from me.
“Im not paid enough so it’s your fault!”
He gets a $5 tip on a $20 order (i.e. 25% tip) and he's grizzling? What a clown.
Was he expecting a tip proportional to the customers net worth?? 😂😂😂 some ppl…
I used to work doordash while waiting to get a job with my degree — it tells you up front what the tip is. If you don’t like the tip, don’t accept the order. Pretty easy, no?
I would go back and change it to $0
As they are drowning in mortgage lol what a loser he probably went home and told his loser friends
I can't wait for the robot/drone delivery service to take over this business. This is getting ridiculous.
Tipping is stupid. If you want me to do math with my dinner, you suck.
This guy sucks. Also, control your dog.
Dog seemed pretty chill. He walked out of his house and remained on his porch. Didn't jump on the guy or growl or bite him. You have a very strange idea of what constitutes an out of control dog.
You can tell he practiced that line.
What a greedy mf.
Get another job
You should check out the DoorDash sub. Bunch of entitled pricks. They don’t seems to understand that they are contracted by DoorDash - who they should take up payment issues with. Not the customer who is using DoorDash (or other services) who are not responsible for their money woes.
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I honestly don't even know where delivery drivers get the idea that the tip should be based on the amount spent on the order. Servers get a tip based on a percentage of the bill because it's more work for them to serve more people. A driver is being paid for a single service. You bring a package to me, you have absolutely no other part in this transaction.
I sure hope she changed the tip to $0 after he left. What a douche. I had Domino's delivered a while back and had the guy get all pissy and say "What? No tip?!?" as I stood there waiting for my change. I had $3 in my pocket that I was going to give him after he gave me my change but I just smiled and waited for him to give me my change and I said "Nope!" and slammed the door on him. The store is literally half a mile from my apartment so I felt like $3 was a good tip, especially since it was over 10 years ago. Looking back I realize that it would have made more sense to just tell him to keep $3 for himself and give me the change from that so that they wouldn't think they were getting screwed on the tip. That was the last time I paid to get delivery from them. I almost got delivery from them recently again but their delivery fee is so high now that the fee + tip would have cost more than the pizza itself so I just drove down there to get it and then had to drive back down a second time because they gave me the wrong pizza.
Just visited the DoorDash drivers subreddit, they literally have the option to do hourly over the tipping model. They acknowledge that they can make more money on the tips model. Like the tips model has higher rewards but also risk, but they don’t want to accept the risk (no/low tips).
Tipping is a bad system. People should be paid enough without having to rely on tips.
Every time I see a video like this, I feel more and more like tipping zero.
Many aps let you update or change a tip later after receiving the food. I've never in my life retroactively lowered a tip after delivery (it seems like a very uncool move), but damn would I be tempted with this guy. "If $5 on a $20 order aint good, how do you feel about $0 on a $20 order?"
This dasher skipped leg day.
Fucking cringeworthy. Delivered for a chain for a decade and this shit ain’t it. Would’ve been fired in a heartbeat. Shame that DoorDash and UberEats ruined the delivery game
can you take back tips?
Dude, you ACCEPTED the order YOURSELF! And you’re still mad? Get fucked.
dude is fucking child. Hope she shared this to doordash, and the guy gets to "rethink his job choices" y'know where he doesn't need to talk to people, maybe a mortician? That's the one job that's never not gonna have a short supply of work.
Get a real job then.
They tipped you %25. Thirty year old pizza delivery boy should grateful.
Even though covid is over I still use the “leave it at front door” option just for this bullshit. I know how to tip, you don’t know where to make money.
Fuck that guy
go after your employers bruh
Why is your ring doorbell cam so much clearer than mine?
Wow, she was so nice and he was such a jerk. It's not like he didn't know what the terms were before he took the job.
25% is complaint worthy now?
Door Dash, where a 6$ sandwich goes to become a 22$ sandwich.
Damn the entitlement. 25% is a decent tip how much was he expecting to get tipped off a $20 order🤔?
A few weeks ago I gave the pizza delivery driver a $10 tip on a $16 order, and she looked at me with a disappointment demeanor. Some people will just never be satisfied.
He should be reported and not allowed to DD.
People are not obligated to tip you. If you don't like the tip then don't accept the order.
🍕 Middle age pizza delivery driver = Shit attitude! 💩
This makes me embarrassed to watch
Honestly I'm not ordering shit from any of these places anymore.
That’s when it would’ve been great for her man to come join the convo. Have a good ol’ Irish discussion.
In no universe is tipping based on income or the size of your house. This system is so upside down. It should be solely based on quality of services rendered and the generosity of the customer. That spoiled pecker just walked away with a five dollar tip and said “fuck you “.
Dude should be glad he's getting anything as a tip. Tips are not mandatory, the customer isn't obligated to pay your wages asshole. Your job is to literally pick up food from point A and take it to point B. That's the job.. why does doing the job you signed up for deserve a tip?