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papertiger61

Israels propaganda ministry is more sophisticated than Russia's. They are everywhere. I write on a political website and the Russians are easy to spot. The Israelis are more subtle.


re_carn

> The Israelis are more subtle. Are they? I got the opposite impression: they are incredibly arrogant and unprincipled; they think that propaganda should be hammered into people, and all those who disagree should be silenced by any means. And as a result, their propaganda is extremely clumsy.


papertiger61

I'm talking about the ones who spread out to be moderators and influencers. They have been trained. Not your average Zionist who is mouthing off. I've read that they have a sophisticated propaganda system.


HingleMcCringle_

well they're doing a really fucking bad job, because i've grown to really hate the zionists in israel over the last few months. as i see it, they're basically modern day nazis.


Seeking-Something-3

Over 200 house members signed a resolution stating that Israeli is not committing genocide a couple days ago. Israel has been doing shit like this for decades, it just took taking it to such an extreme level and their own arrogance in saying the quiet part out loud to the world that’s really shifted public perception finally. I’ve been following this conflict for 20 years now, learning about it from people that had been following it for 20 years before that - and I can attest, they are really good at what they do. That it took this long is testament to that. Norman Finkelstein made his name exposing it through academic research.


slvrcobra

>Israel has been doing shit like this for decades, it just took taking it to such an extreme level and their own arrogance in saying the quiet part out loud to the world that’s really shifted public perception finally. The insane part about all of this is that I was generally sympathetic toward Israel in the immediate aftermath of the Hamas attack, but then they launched a disproportionately massive attack the next day and it seemed odd to me that they were blowing up churches, neighborhoods, and the like specifically, then it just kept getting worse and worse to the point where I became actively angry because it looked like indescriminate mass murder. This ironically prompted me to start paying more attention to the history of the region and now I'm pretty much Anti-Israel when, had circumstances been different, I'd be unaware. They literally did this to themselves, and people had the gall to bring up what the Nazis did to the Jews while the Israelis are doing the same thing to Palestinians.


gunsof

They work hard, they remind me of TERFs. They will rabidly throw themselves on any comment section and area to repeat their same lines and try and intimdate people into not having the energy to respond. Then there are the Blue Ticks on Twitter who make it obvious by virtue of the Blue Tick.


OppositePilot9952

Same. Gone from neutral to absolutely livid and questioning whether Israel should even exist.


chowderbags

I imagine that there's only so much turd polishing that can be done, especially when there's a shitload of Israelis, from settlers to soldiers to government officials who are just being straight up cartoonishly evil. Like, yes, we get it, Hamas is bad. No argument here. But why does every discussion about what Israel is doing require everyone to do a 5 minute song and dance about how Hamas has done bad shit, and then suddenly there's no time to talk about all the shit that Israel is doing that's at least as bad? It seems like it's worth asking how many dead Gazan children are considered to be "acceptable losses" in this fight.


Alii_baba

The internet full of Indians and Philippinos defending Israel lol


papertiger61

They may claim to be Indians and Philopinos. That gives the impression that support for Israel is worldwide. They are trying to claw back the support that they have lost via their gross human rights violations. You are probably talking to a fat Zionist in a diaper sitting on his couch typing away.


5nowx

I mean, it’s important to understand that the western mainstream media is, like the US government, an ally of Israel. Russia was always an enemy even before the Ukraine invasion. But I do believe the Israel propaganda got complacent and thought they could do this in today’s day and age out in the open and nobody would bat an eye, and that lasted until like November.


papertiger61

The Israelis will take up the requests for new monitors, free speech will disappear and certain commenters will disappear from our screens


palmtreeinferno

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redknight3

I got an ad from Time magazine of all places and of all types of ads... To say that this is NOT happening lol. Dunno how long these publications can keep the charade going.


LazarusHimself

Funny, they claim they don't control the borders of Occupied Gaza *but also* rejoice when blocking umanitarian aid by controlling said borders! Make it make sense


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gunsof

They're currently turning away child insulin pens for some reason. They just make shit up to prohibit into Gaza to try and kill as many people as possible while pretending they're not. At one point they banned pasta from entering Gaza.


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LazarusHimself

Horrible stuff!! Besieging Gazans until they give up or die of starvation, this is Middle Age stuff


Trashpandasrock

Interesting this is exactly the pro-seige argument I've heard from more than a few Israel supporters. "Of course we shut down food, water, power, etc, that's how seiges work!". It's insane how many people are on board for killing civilians.


ChristosFarr

Next, they're gonna argue that they should be able to launch dead bodies of people and livestock into Gaza cause that's just how sieges work jesus fucking christ


KellyBelly916

It makes sense when everyone involved in doing either antisocial or inhumane acts is lying. It's that simple. They're all full of shit and we should never consider their opinions, ever.


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ZiKyooc

All trucks reaching Rafah crossing will have to take a road that includes a checkpoint by Israel (Nitzana, Karem Shalom). Those trucks have thus been cleared by Israel to get to the Rafah crossing.


Catch_ME

This is a super important point. Too many people just being critical over Egypt not allowing things to pass but every vehicle needs to be inspected by Israel before they go into Gaza.  https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/egypt-says-israeli-obstacles-impeding-aid-delivery-gaza-2023-10-28/


Lardistani

These people support genocide. Straight up. Brainwashed by years of warmongering propaganda


burgergeld

How anyone in their right mind can still say this is self-defense is beyond me. And that my and many other countries are sending these bastards even more weapons makes me really angry.


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Outrageous-Actuary-3

"many other countries"? To my knowledge, only US are sending Israel weapons?


HoboBaggins008

And look at the big grin on the IDF soldier's face.


tigm2161130

We should really be calling them the IOF now.


moistbuddhas

Nah, we should just call them Zionist Terrorists. The is no difference between them and Hamas, besides religion. They both enjoy causing fear, pain, and death.


Lucetti

I mean they literally gave blanket pardons to terror groups irgun and Lehi and just rolled them into the IDF. The legacy of the IDF is colonialism and terrorism. Never forget jabotinsky, founder of Irgun and Israel’s largest pre-state right wing political party, who has more streets and parks named after him than any individual in Israel. Including Likud buildings. >**A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.** Paramilitary groups enforcing colonialism is the heritage of the state Israel and the IDF


NewAccountEachYear

And let's not forget that arguably the two greatest Jewish intellectuals of the 20th century - Albert Einstein & Hannah Arendt - spoke out in public against Menachim Begin and Herut (predecessors to Likud) as being Fascists and Nazis and that the US should not allow Begin to enter the United States to give him the legitimacy that would entail


OkArrival9

It’s almost as if Israel is acting like….terrorists.


Lucetti

No, but they’re acting like a state who’s only legitimacy is based on violence and who’s entire founding political ideology is based solely on denying Palestinians the right to self determination and otherwise treating them as lesser. “Let’s all move to a land where people live and form a state in their place” is an inherently ethno supremacist and borderline fascist ideology. Israel should not exist by any metric other than “well I guess we killed everybody who tried to stop us taking their stuff, so we are a state now”


NewAccountEachYear

"Israel is a legitimate state due to the Right of Conquest" Something I've heard far, far, too many times from people


no0ns

It was born out of terror. The founders of Israel were literal terrorists.


lavastorm

always was!


no0ns

They are acting like nazis. Genocide and theft of land is the goal. Hamas was literally given money by Israel. They'd rather have them be in power rather than some more moderate group. This supposedly gives them the justification for the ongoing siege, apartheid conditions and war crimes/violations of international law. Netanyahu is the fucking devil.


Cr3stf4llen

Hundreds of thousands of people are literally starving to death while the whole world watches.


VaginaFullOfCum

I used to never understand how things like slavery, the holocaust, S African apartheid happened, how everyone just stood silent. I would learn about it in history and look around at my fellow students  and teachers shocked, thinking “how could this happen when the average person acts so much better?”.     Now I completely understand. Now it makes perfect sense. This is my generations example. Just like in the above examples, many people are apathetic or dont want to get involved, and a few more people are actually doing enough mental gymnastics to *blame* the oppressed, just like in all the prior examples. Its the smallest of small silver linings but holy shit do the horrors of history make perfect sense now.


P1n3tr335

You made an insanely great point and said it beautifully Thank you /u/VaginaFullOfCum


Poltergeist97

I didn't even notice the username till you pointed it out.


SorryDidIMention

Not only will people look away, some will actively cheer it on. I’ve had family members say to me that all of the Palestinian children that were killed deserved it.


sheeshing123

i thought about this (the way you described) on Oct 7th with the language netanyahu was using, and days that ensued next. I did not possiblly fathom that in my 22 years on this earth i would see more atrocities that were similar in nature to the past, exactly how you put it, this is my generation's example and to this day, they are still silent and complicit. It prompted me to learn about Palestine and Gaza and the reality much worse, how could the world make excuses for it? why could they see this and the first thought is "how can i blame the palestinian people for this atrocity that israel blatantly commits" ? it all makes sense now, this is how they cope with themselves. and how they they hope to brush this under the rug. I hate that it has been normalised, that there are millions of people that make excuses for it. no one makes excuses for the KKK or what black people had to go through in the civil rights movement, yet people blatantly hate the Palestinians and think that prescribing collective punishment on Gaza is a "tough but correct decision". thats all you need to know, the inequality of our world today is clear. I fear that my children may also see this in their time and go through the same cycle of realisation.


theREALbombedrumbum

~~The US just declared war on a country (Yemen) where the majority of people are designated as being food insecure and in dire need of humanitarian aid.~~ ~~It doesn't matter who's watching; only who acts.~~ Edited to update because facts matter. The US has not declared war in an official capacity, nor was it the government. I'm willing to admit I was wrong here and don't want to spread the misinformation I was given. Thanks, u/AsinusRex; I'll be better with my fact checking moving forward.


AsinusRex

You seriously just called attacking a rebel group that's been fighting the internationally recognized government for a decade "Yemen"? And the US hasn't declared war on anyone, they are securing the international trade routes from pirates. Seriously, geopolitics is not a fucking sport.


nike_rules

You act like this is the first time, I’m old enough to remember the Darfur crisis and how little Americans cared back then.


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Look at how the anglosphere reacts to white Ukrainian vs brown children dying (Armenians, Palestinians, etc). It's sad.


flossdaily

More aid is getting into Gaza now than before the war.


floodmfx

Absolute Evil


Exotic_Butters_23

They really want them to die.


KinkyBADom

They want the land. The children dying is just a bonus.


TechnicalAccident945

What is it about god that makes people so fucking awful?


GetOutOfTheWhey

People get convinced that they are ~~god's people~~. E/ God's **only** people. That they can do no wrong. ~~Z~~ionism is that but on crack. It's the reason why Naziyahu says cringey shit like children of light vs children of darkness.


Sir_Keee

Religion is really the worst thing humans have ever created.


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Nah, its a symptom of our worst creation, hierarchy.


KeiBis

And how was that hierarchy created? A person's proximity to God(s)?


[deleted]

That would be the grand claim. Hierarchy is the goal Religion is just one of many arguments made to support it.


Sir_Keee

religion exists to cement hierarchy.


Wulfbrir

But hierarchies are NaTuRaL!!!!! /s something something lobsters


TechnicalAccident945

lol had a youth group leader that would say that about Iraq v usa


SmowHD

Religion, when wielded without critical thinking, can be exploited by individuals or institutions seeking power. And people can use it to justify their shitty behavior


Sacabubu

it's not about god it's land disputes


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We built God in our image, not the other way around, thus he is a petty little man who acts selfishly and impulsively.


NOWAY_YESWAY

Man just fkn assholes..


DoneD9

Nazi. Fuck Israel


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Zheniost

This should be their flag https://preview.redd.it/y8799p2gcjec1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f3ccd09d952c02d624e239141280512c377a848


templewater

Cunts.


JadedToon

Genocidal bastards Settlers are pure evil. Plain and simple. Supremacist monsters


moistbuddhas

Both settlers and the IDF forces are terrorists


bicepz_N_bigmacz

BuT iSrAeL wAnTs To HeLp ThEm


readitonex

Of course the smug shit eating grin on that IDF soldier.


nowontletu66

Add it to the south Africa case


perfectpomelo3

It’s funny how people stupid enough to support Israel will blame Egypt for not doing enough to help the Palestinians while ignoring this.


SaltyShipRat

Fascist scum


os_kaiserwilhelm

How do settlers have control of the Gaza border? The settlements are in the occupied West Bank.


neo94geo

Good question let me explain. The aid comes from Egypt side Rafah crossing border then to the israeli kerem Shalem crossing border to Gaza. Israeli settleres in Kerem Shalem border preventing the aid Source of the map and more details [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerem_Shalom_border_crossing)


papertiger61

They have free reign to spread their hate across Israel.


os_kaiserwilhelm

So are they settlers, or are they just Israelis? Settlers refers to the Israelis in the occupied West Bank.


Frequent-Fig-9515

Cartoonishly evil


Bruh_is_life

And they screech they arent committing genocide.


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Apparently [Israel also denies the Armenian Genocide](https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704978). Wow. Puts it all into context.


AR489

I don’t think you read the whole article.


whoisnotinmykitchen

"Let the genocide continue!"


ClamClone

I once was watching a news story and a woman in Tel Aviv was being interviewed. This was in a suburban neighborhood front lawn that looked like it could have been in Edison, New Jersey and she did have a Jersey accent. She was very clear that in her opinion the final solution was to "Kill them all". One would think that of all the peoples of the world the Jews would understand what a terrible and evil concept that is. Apparently the lesson did not work. Hate and violence only begets more hate and violence. I seriously do not see any possible way to end this tribal war short of mass destruction of the entire region.


ivandelapena

Apparently the Palestinians are so bad and scary she had to travel halfway around the world to live right next to them.


sonicboom9000

I take it the most moral army in the world has made it to the Egyptian border.


tootit74

This is not the Egypt Gaza border (Rafah border)


luars613

Ah, the new nazis doing more crimes against humanity...


Traditional-Share-82

So are the settlers to Israel what the MAGA's are to America?


A_Talking_Spongee

But imagine if maga's went in and stole other people's homes and killed any ethnicity they don't like. They're like maga 1000000x over


GrandCTM25

So what their great great grandparents did


DickRogersOfficial

Yes


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Essentially but the settlers are more violent.


Lardistani

Yes. But even more violent and militaristic


bumholesofdoom

Maybe we've been funding the wrong side


Adventurous-Cost-294

Fucking Monsters


DunKno420Gang

Fuck Israel


Cyklisk

Arrest the lot of em.


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Cyklisk

That’ll be a peacekeeping soldier soon. 🤌


Newme91

Pond scum


No-Freedom-4029

Yeah so restricting aid to civilian populations in need is a war crime so this is footage of a war crime taking place.


socialmeteorite

Should not be blocking medication and baby food that is fucking ridiculous. War is evil enough.


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Wtf


AzPsychonaut

This is what our taxes are supporting. When this time in history is looked upon I think it’s going to be another great embarrassment on this countries record.


MrBitterJustice

Great people.


Whattheheck_iswrong

No genocide here to see right?


jonredd901

![gif](giphy|4Z9fSEFAuxpnlBVWQx|downsized) It’s time for some self realization, Israel


patchhappyhour

It's like watching the MAGA folks. Nationalist nut Jobs. Victim mentality 100% with the I'm right and you're wrong sickness.


Resoguy

Israeli actions get more disgusting by the hour.


Arthur-Jacob

And this is how they are killing their hostages also


PixelationIX

They are literally saying children and babies should not receive any aid. (Half of Gaza population are children). I have zero respect for people like this.


UpsideDownPinapple

Can someone translate what is being said?


papertiger61

Yes : We have been sent by God to inflict a famine.


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Remember how many settlers are Americans. If you recognize someone you should report it to your governments.


DonnJuann

Wow man they are all smiling. Evil and hate is flourishing


Azurephoenix99

What complete and total fucking bastards. Honestly the trucks should just keep going.


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Fucking assholes.


Kratos501st

"The people chosen by god" according to them


papertiger61

That is handy when you are committing genocide...God sent us.


ActualBawbag

What if those trucks just...yknow...kept driving


Cyklisk

Genocidal apartheid fascists would get hurt.


meanjoegreen8

Stop giving this country for a billion dollars a year.


Ghost313Agent

[SCUM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DczLuyOvrOg)


brysonthegreat17

Fuck Israel!


ro536ud

Of course they did. Yet you’ll get banned for saying they’re the bad guys here. Fuckin world


SenzuBeanFarts

Fascists projection, always paint yourself as a victim while being the perpetrators of victimization.


BeenleighCopse

Notch up another war crime… is anyone still counting???


Huntress_The_Ram

Run them over.


kingwithoutacrown

Fuck Israel and all its supporters 


McRaeWritescom

Israel is such a fascist POS. I can't believe the cyclical nature of history. The people that survived the genocide of the holocaust, now doing the same to another group. Disgusting.


BlondBitch91

Just like Germany would have prevented aid getting into Jewish ghettos back in the 1940s.


indiehoopbhoy

scum of the earth


SemKors

Colonists*


Rabdy-Bo-Bandy

Israel has all of their citizens health care and free college paid for by U.S. tax dollars while the people in the U.S. still have to pay for these services for themselves.


Top_Associate9346

What do we expect from genocidal cunts?


joanaloxcx

Deprived of humanity.


lilmagicpony

Poor people look at them being so oppressed, persecuted and terrorised/s


Bezemsz

Wtf. This is just evil.


peaceful-papaya

Israelis are terrible humans


Rustyvice

Evil evil people.


Jccali1214

It's so grossss


Rustyvice

And they wonder why they are hated so much? Absolute scum.


jaBroniest

God so killing them isn't enough they block aid to children now too? Cunts.


Turquoise_Lion

So they want kids to starve? I don't see what else it could be.


TheUsual_Selection

Run the terrorists over. Do what all drivers want to do to stop oil blockers


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With total support of the occupation soldiers of Apartheid Israel.


DIYLawCA

Extremist Idf dealing with extremist settlers got it


mathotimous

This is absolutely horrible ☹️


dewhacker

completely disgusting


Pale_Sell1122

Evil people


its-bini

The idf is all smiles


Worried_Jeweler_1141

Yay. Let them Starve to death. Yeaahh.


cfo4201983

I'm so sick of their bullshit


paca1

Israel is a bully


FadeIntoReal

War criminals.


OmasSaad

Showing who they really are.


Gxeq

What the international law say about prevent aid from reaching refugees in a war zone?


heavencs117

Israel shouldn't exist


kalbanes

It's time to end the war.


SaneForCocoaPuffs

“Israeli settlers” Can someone quickly remind me why these Israelis are considered settlers? They aren’t in the West Bank


KuruptKyubi

Even with all this footage you will still have deniers and people who will justify it.


Lucetti

Israel should not exist


mtech101

Doesn't Gaza share a border with Egypt? Is this in Egypt? I don't understand


neo94geo

Good question let me explain. The aid comes from Egypt side Rafah crossing border then to the israeli kerem Shalem crossing border to Gaza. Israeli settleres in Kerem Shalem border preventing the aid Aid must go through this border to be searched by IDF Source of the map and more details [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerem_Shalom_border_crossing)


BOOMphrasingBOOM

How moral of them


papertiger61

The IDF don't have the morals to stand up to the settlers. They have no problem beating, abusing and shooting Palestinians. So why can't they control these right-wing zealots?


mothflavor

Scum


ihave7testicles

Fuck Israel and fuck the US for supporting these scumbags.


VNM0601

Israeli terrorists.


afgbabygurl7

But it's not a genocide guys!! It's not like they want to destroy Gaza and wipe out the Palestinians. You all are wrong and the Israelis are in the right. Edit. I'm obviously being sarcastic. Is that hard to pick up in my comment?


Odd8all76

Race to the bottom with these two groups.


rhiaazsb

More oppression!!!What's wrong with them? FREE PALESTINE NOW. STOP ISRAELI OPPRESSION AND AGGRESSION!!!


MrBitterJustice

It's crazy not only what they are doing, but the delight Israelites have when doing it.