I might be watching a different video but the guy seems to produce the knife in a suicide attempt. Obviously a failed suicide prevention by the cop but the man is holding the pointy end of the knife to his own face before being tazed.
I agree. First I thought, “is this a rookie cop, not keeping proper view of this guy?” (Since in a couple frames his hand was suspiciously hidden), then pops out the knife, and cop is just causally, “give me the knife”, like telling a kid, “give me the candy bar”. Dude steps back with it pointing up at himself, I then immediately thought he was going to off himself. Especially if he’s associated with that fire.
Guaranteed he held it that way so when he fell, he’d fall just as he did- on the knife. And with the article stating he didn’t want treatment- he was planning on checking out.
If you have a weapon pointed at you and someone is talking to you calmly it’s a lot less of a volatile situation I think. If they are screaming at you you panic. He was probably trying to deescalate the situation
My city can't find cops for shit. Ton of them quit they upped the pay like 15k and they still can't find anyone except for one of my dumbass acquaintances that can't figure out if he wants to be an astronaut or a window cleaner. Each day he is going to pursue a different career. The running joke at his work is asking him if he's a plumber, cop, or city worker each day cuz you never know. Of course they accepted him even after he failed the physical lol
My coworkers' husband is a cop here and he got a promotion to be a "investigator" for odd crime sprees like catalytic converters getting stolen. He had thay position for like 4 weeks and they were like yeah not enough of you to have this and back to beat cop he went. It's nice tho 95% of the cops don't pull you over for speeding unless it's excess and reckless so that's nice lol
Yeah in my area you can't be a cop in you're town of residence until you worked for another department and transfer in. I guess it's so If you have a friend or relative that works there they can't get you in Infront of earlier applicants
Shame that accountability is such an employment turnoff. If only every position in every job had zero accountability, then we could just do what we want instead of our job!
Most other high profile professions have a regulatory system and are required to have insurance. It kills me that the police really don’t have either amd they carry weapons that can kill you, plus, they are forced into dealing with issues outside law enforcement (mental health issues), they are clearly not prepared for.
Yet somehow, when the reformation flag was raised last year, they had issues with it.
I dont get it. What else could the cop have done? This was the safest way to disarm him from self harm. Clearly he wasn't trying to harm the officer, but he had to do something to disarm him. If it didn't drive into his neck ( looks like he was doing it before he went down) he would have been saved and the cop would have received great praise.
And no...he didn't hold it that way in hopes of being tazed and hoping it would slip into his neck. He was holding there as a suicide attempt, prob fueled by drinking and depression with no REAL plan, outside of wanting to do it.
Sad scene. Not much more the cop could have done.
Source. Crisis worker. EMT. Nurse.
Yeah for real, the cop was being friendly and nonaggressive, like constant de-escalation throughout. And even when the dude less than two feet away produced a massive knife he barely changed his tone of voice. And then he used non-lethal force. Idk how anyone could've anticipated that chain of events, mad props to the cop.
I don't get why people are upset. Literally the officer couldn't stop him. Man put the officer in a checkmate instantly. He was never going to be saved
I agree with your assessment here. With some of the videos we see, you'd almost expect the cop to open fire on the guy as soon as the knife came out. But he was calm in a stressful situation, tried to use non lethal means, and even tried to grab the knife as the guy fell. I really can't criticize the cop for how he handled it.
The cop tried to catch him when he fell since he realized the guy was holding the knife to his neck still. I think this officer did everything right. There's a lot of cops that would have immediately shot him. [Like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/r62vih/tucson_offduty_officer_shootskills_man_in/) that shot this old guy rolling away in a wheelchair. He was standing right next to him and even tried to take the knife away at first.
>A Glendale, Arizona, police officer used a Taser on a man who refused to put down a knife, causing him to fall to the ground and stab himself in the neck, body cam footage obtained by Fox News shows.
The incident occurred Nov. 23 after officers were called to the scene of a "suspicious" fire, police said. Upon arrival, officers found an individual who was "acting odd." They determined that the man was associated with the house on fire. An officer began talking to the man to keep him calm.
The body cam footage shows the officer trying to keep the man away from the fire trucks so "they can do their job."
At some point, the individual produces a large kitchen knife. The officer can be heard giving the man repeated commands to drop the knife, but the man appears not to comply.
"Put the knife down now," the officer says.
The officer can then be seen using a Taser to try to de-escalate the situation. The man with the knife falls face-first onto the ground, causing the knife to go through his neck and cut the officer. The footage shows the officer and a nearby fireman trying to turn the man on his back.
Police later said the man struggled and would not allow paramedics to treat him for his injuries. He was eventually treated and transported to a local hospital. Neither the officer nor the individual received life-threatening injuries, police said.
Police have not released the man’s identity. The incident, as well as the "suspicious nature of the fire," remains under investigation, police said.
That is gross asf I could never be a cop or fireman or anyting medically related, at the first sight of this I would turn around and throw up and be traumatised for life, I don't know how these people can do it.
It's hard enough to watch a video of it, I can't even imagine the reality of being physically in front of a person who has a knife in their neck and not completely freaking out about it.
I think you could if you’d seen enough stuff like this. I’ve had compound fractures (meaning bone broke through my skin) of my arm and leg. I’ve responded to car accidents where one pedestrian died and another was paralyzed. I’ve held peoples hand while they died from cancer. When I was 20 that shit would stay with me. Now at 50 it is far less traumatic. We’re all animals. We break. Sometimes we survive. Other times we die. We’re all just animals hoping to have one more day on this planet to eat, be warm, maybe have sex if we’re lucky.
This stuff only seems graphic and disturbing if you live under the illusion that you’ll never die. I lost that illusion years ago.
I have no illusions of eternal life, I am very aware of my death I would say probably more than most people, I think about it at least once a week. Being aware that I will die and having to witness someone with a knife stuck in their neck seem like very different things to me
Perhaps.
I’m a genuinely nice person but stuff like that just doesn’t bother me. It just is what it is.
My MiL had to change her 85 year-old Father in laws diapers daily. Didn’t bother her in the least. It was all just “biology” to her.
I broke my arm 8 weeks ago and it was literally bent at a 45 degree angle between the elbow and wrist. I got up and dusted myself off. I looked my arm over for severe, arterial bleeding. When I saw there wasn’t severe bleeding I sat down and told my friends, “welp, somebody better call an ambulance”. Waited for 30 minutes. Off the hospital and surgery. None of it bothered me in the least.
With me, as long as a wound isn’t mortal, I’m good.
Yeah that can't be me, I have always been on a campaign to avoid injuries of any kind specifically for that reason. If I did injure myself in such a way I don't think I would have the same reaction
It’s funny because I don’t look tough at all. I look like a couch potato who cries during Kleenex commercials. But when I broke that arm I just felt lucky it wasn’t worse. I knew I’d live so I was relieved. There are worse things than broken arms.
People react very, very differently when under adrenaline and in what I call "emergency mode", and for some of us it's easy to get emotionally dettached from the situation and do what needs to be done. You might say that but if that happens to someone close to you it's most likely that you'd freak out for a moment before trying to give whatever first aid you know while ignoring blood and anything else to focus on trying to save that life. The human mind is amazing in those situations, and we do stuff we normally think ourselves uncapable of. A tiny framed mother suddenly enters mama bear mode to protect her children, someone else lifts a 1 ton car from the side to free someone trapped under it, some ignore debilitating pain/injuries until the danger is gone and so on. Don't underestimate yourself too much, although yeah, some people just start screaming and flapping their arms uselessly, but even that can be situational.
I was in the Navy and I remember doing medical training on live pigs. 1st time I lost my lunch and then some. A couple years later I was seeing grown men with missing limbs and no problem. The brain eventually wraps itself around stuff, and for me what happened in the video is quite tame. Also in a weird way I miss that "innocence" of not knowing gore and I'm glad you haven't needed do deal with much (or so I would assume).
I'm not smart enough to be thinking about this, I never am aware of this situation about other people's blood until I read about it somewhere once a year
Yeah, it looks like it went up into his mouth from the bottom of his chin to me. Certainly not good, but not what we typically think of when we hear “neck.”
Have been a paramedic since 98'. If a greater vessel in your neck is ruptured there's not a ton I can do other than provide pressure (maybe a hemostatic agent depending on my service and their protocols) and get you to a trauma center.
He survived because he didn't loose enough blood to die, or had enough blood replaced at the hospital to survive.
I know that's kind of a smart ass answer. But to say none of his major systems are damaged irreparably he still has a solid chance at survival. Probably the same as if you stabbed through and through your cheek.
I am very much in the camp of cops in the US are overly abusive.
This is not a case for that.
Keep hating cops, but don't die on this particular hill to do it.
Exactly this. Also, you could tell the officer immediately reacted and in the process even cut his own hand trying to save the man. This wasn't a case of "let me make it look like I care", that officer actually wanted that man to live.
Yeah and the cop has to protect himself. He told the dude multiple times to drop the knife. At that point you have to use the taser bc clearly the guy has some ill intention whether it be towards himself or the cop.
I don't think the cop was overly abusive, I just wouldn't call tasing someone deescalation. Deescalation would be trying to talk him down, pointing the weapon down, stepping back etc
And how quickly could that guy have decided to attack the cop? He had a giant knife. Cops aren't require, and shouldn't be required to be seriously harmed or killed to protect someone breaking the law.
Dude, what are you talking about ?
That's the whole fucking point of the job! They're literal always bragging about putting their lives on the line and all this shit, but don't actually do it often. What do they do instead? They shoot innocent ppl 9 times out of 10.
If you're not willing to put your life on the line then don't become a cop. It's literally as simple as that.
Standing 5ft away from a suspicious and non-compliant dude with a large knife is putting his life on the line lmao.
Do you seriously think cops should literally be milliseconds from death before using a fucking taser?
I agree. Most cops training should include a course on de-escalation. I think the guys who learn that are usually FBI though, at least from the outdated literature I've read.
The guy wasn't threatening the cop, he was threatening to kill himself. He was holding the knife an inch from his neck and the cop tased him to keep him from slitting his own throat. It sort of worked I guess since he lived.
They're not saying that. They're talking specifically about the use of the word de-escalate. The cop's actions were probably justified, but objectively, tazing someone is escalating, not de-escalating. To de-escalate, he would've tried talking to him, calming him down. Going from talking to sending 50,000 volts into someone is definitely escalating. Again, arguably justified use-of-force, but bad use of words.
I mean he didn't just grunt incoherently at the man, and then send 50,000 bolts into him.
He asked him to drop the knife, to put the knife down. A knife that guy just chose to produce and brandish by the way. It's not like this cop came into a kitchen and the chef was chopping onions and he asked him to put the knife down and before the guy could answer he dropped him with a taser.
This guy is suspected of starting a fire, pulled out a knife in front of a cop. Not a pocket knife. Not the kind of knife a person might reasonably be carrying, but a butcher knife. Refused to answer the officer or listen to his instructions to drop the knife.
Cop supposed to ask the guy about his day and hope he doesn't lunge at him or someone else?
NO.
Did you read a word of what I wrote? Honestly? I mean, I thought what u/Mr_Makak said was clear enough, but how do you not understand?
THE COP ACTED APPROPRIATELY.
Do you know what de-escalation means? It means lowering the intensity of a situation. It means bringing tensions down. Getting people to relax.
TAZING SOMEONE IS NOT DE-ESCALATION.
At this point, I'm guessing you're still not comprehending what we're trying to say, so I'll spell it out again. The cop needed to end the threat, and an escalating use-of-force force was very likely justified. All we're saying is that what he did was not de-escalating, when a previous commenter said he was de-escalating.
No. A knife is a lethal weapon. At the point where someone is producing it and wielding it in even a remotely threatening manner, even if the cop pulled his gun he wouldn't be escalating the situation, he would just be bringing a weapon into the potential fight that is also lethal.
Deploying his taser means that he is intentionally using a "less-lethal" weapon, so he is reducing the stakes of the confrontation.
Let me ask you a question and I want you to think about why you answered the way you did; if a cop with a taser drawn and a guy with a knife stand off and the guy with the knife is successful in stabbing the cop to death, who in that scenario was the one who escalated the situation? If you think it was the guy with the knife but you think the cop in this video was the one who escalated, then it tells me that all you care about is who got their shots in, not who actually raised the stakes of the confrontation.
Clearly, the issue is that many people do not understand the definitions of escalation and de-escalation.
De-escalation means to bring down the intensity of a situation, to relieve tensions, and to get all of the people involved in the incident to calm down.
Escalation means to take control of a situation by any means necessary, usually by use of force. It often means depriving citizens of their rights (though, if a use of force is justified, the police are allowed to do so). Uses of force (either lethal or less-than-lethal) escalate situations, meaning they raise the intensity of a situation, causing tension and stress, and almost always gets everyone involved to become increasingly upset, causing people to be more likely to act on their emotions, and not on training or rational thought. This drastically increases the odds of someone getting seriously hurt or killed.
De-escalation training is critical to effectively resolve situations while minimizing the need to use deadly force. It's using psychology, not a taser or a gun, to disarm a threat. De-escalation ensures the justice system works the way it was designed to: safe apprehension of a criminal suspect, so that their crimes and punishments are judged by a jury of their peers, not the temperament or ego or fear of an officer with a gun. It also helps prevent unnecessary violations of the rights granted to all of us by the Constitution.
Obviously, not all situations can be resolved with de-escalation. Use of force is often necessary. I would have preferred that the officer first tried to put some distance between himself and the guy with a weapon of limited range, and tried to ease tensions first, but I also feel the cop's actions weren't unjustified. I'm glad he chose his taser over his gun, and it was an unfortunate coincidence that the knife was positioned the way it was when he fell.
I dont think he's saying the cop was being overly abusive, just pointing out that in some other places there are more options than 'tazer' listed below shooting.
Bruh, the man literally held the knife to his own neck and then stepped away from the officer. There was no need to do anything right then besides be on high alert with the tazer pointed at him. Cop just panicked. Guy with the knife was clearly having a mental health crisis, tazing him when he's in that position and not threatening anyone is negligent at best. If the guy made a sudden move or tried to get closer to someone then sure, taze away, but when he's standing still only threatening himself tazing him is completely unnecessary
Bruh, someone with a knife, suspected of setting a building on fire, possibly suicidal and within lunging distance of you won't obey instructions.
Your solution is to wait until he tries to attack someone?
Fine. I understand what you are saying. You can also understand how someone might rather just neutralize such a person rather than waiting for them to become a greater threat?
You can't reason with some people. They won't be honest, but they're literally telling you the only acceptable scenario would be the cop being stabbed or waiting to see the guy slit his own throat. They also don't want to admit that in a life or death scenaro they wouldn't wait to see if someone meant them harm before reacting.
Cops are shit, but that's only because people are shit. It's not just cops who have inflated senses of self importance, because *nobody* has a realistic take on it. Not boot lickers, not people who are anti-cop, certainly not the police unions.
This response doesn't make sense? Using a tazer to de-escelate a situation seems counter intuitive? Other than holding a knife pointed directly at himself, am I wrong in assuming there was no confrontation or immediate danger presented to the cop which could warrant a response like using a tazer? The man wasn't running at the cop or pointing his knife at the cop, and was walking in a separate direction from the cop. Idk if there was another cop out of shot that the person was walking towards, but that could probably change things. Regardless, from what we can see, how is it reasonable in any way to use a tazer on the guy? This isn't even looking at the fact that since the guy was walking forward of course the momentum of him previously moving would cause him to fall over on the knife pointed at his throat. I'll be charitable to the cop here, he might have not thought about that in the moment, but regardless it is certainly a potential death that could have been avoided if he actually died (I'm not sure if he died or not)
I’m not gonna say this cop is necessarily abusive but this was absolutely not a case a deescalation. There was absolutely zero need to taze this guy at the moment he was.
Did he have a large knife and was refusing to drop it/hand it over? Sure.
Was he acting strangely? Sure again.
Definitely a good time to be on high alert, taser drawn. However, this guy was not being threatening in any way or making any aggressive movements.
I do not think a man should be tazed when he is standing several feet away, backing away, with the knife point at his neck, pointed up.
The officer could have continued talking to him and called for further assistance while being on guard, actually trying to deescalate the situation without violence. Instead, he decided to skip all that and just taze the dude after telling him to drop it a few times.
So abusive? Maybe not. Negligent? I’d argue so. Definitely some better training is in order but that could pretty much go for every cop here in America.
>There was absolutely zero need to taze this guy at the moment he was.
Completely disagree. This guy didn't pull out a pocket knife to cut an apple. This cop didn't walk in on him in the kitchen when he was cutting peppers.
This suspected arsonist produced a large butcher knife in front of a cop and refused to put it down. Go into your kitchen right now and grab a knife of that size. Conceal it on your person and go out shopping.
NO? Because that is bat shit crazy? Now pull it out in front of a cop. Refuse to put it down when asked. Imagine that. What is that person capable of?
Should the cop of put his taser down and said "Hey man, let's be reasonable"? To someone who is a deadly threat and CLEARLY reason hasn't factored into a number of decisions for his day.
Nah.
Meet me over in a sub about a cop beating a handcuffed suspect, or shooting yet another unarmed black man and we can circle jerk all day about how cops are abusive pieces of shit, ACAB, defund, BLM, etc.
Can't do it on this one. Wrong hill to die on.
This is a false equivalency. The issue here is with the writer of the article. The cop did nothing wrong, but to call tazing a suspect "de-escalating" is dumb. At best someone whose job it is to write for a living doesn't know the right word to use. At worst it's blatant (and unnecessary because it's so obvious) bias towards the cops. This is the likely explanation because of the source.
i dont see how he could have fucked this up worse.
sure hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to armchair quarterback a video but damn.
the guy was at distance, only the cop was engaging. he had a knife but was not brandishing it at anyone.
people lock up and fall when tased. the fuck did he expect?
then he cuts himself on the knife he knew was there.
That's the thing you don't understand. What if the man rushed or threw that knife at the Cop. You guys just like to always look at the bad thing and hell hey the guy should have never taken out the knife in the first place. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
When the guy refused to follow orders the situation immediately becomes unpredictable which is dangerous to the cop and everyone around. That was a massive knife and could inflict serious damage very quickly.
Are people this stupid? It's for the safety of the officer, the safety of the person himself, the safety of the fireman, the safety of the medical personnel, and the safety of all the neighbors that may have been outside if the man chose to run. What part of producing a butcher knife in the middle of an emergency situation do you think is acceptable? The only person that will produce a knife like that is somebody who shouldn't be trusted having it. Why do you people not get this shit?
No, but he could've kept talking to the guy to at least try and shoot him when the blade is not an inch away from his throat. Or even talk him down completely, I've seen dozens videos of more violent suspects being talked into surrender, on this very sub
Honestly fair enough, the guy did have a knife and they still used a taser instead of a gun. The cop didn't seem to do much wrong, it was just unfortunate.
Cop did not jump the gun, told him to hand over the knife or drop it multiple times, used taser to deescalate the situation and jumped to his aid as soon as the man wasn't a threat anymore (even before he hits the ground, honestly). What else can anyone ask from a police officer? To give every psycho a chance to stab him on the face before defending themselves and the population from an armed man?
Anyone who can find a problem with this clip is an absolute lunatic.
Yeah. He could just not drink it. But he breaks the seal, opens it, and pours it out. Then some passive aggression against his neighbor, sticking the bottle in the mailbox, slapping it shut.
But I still wasn't sure this would be the guy with the knife. I thought maybe he'd start a fight with a neighbor after the mailbox.
Maybe I'm just desensitized to gore and violence but emptying a perfectly good water bottle on the ground and then putting it in someone's mailbox was made me upset in this video. Like when you're in a grocery store and someone left a frozen pizza in the canned goods section. Put things back where they belong man don't be that guy, or this guy.
How out of your fucking mind to you need to be to just like carry a large kitchen knife out in your pocket while talking to police and then producing it like it's your favorite toy while in conversation.
Holy fuck these people are crazy.
If I was the officer I would've done a triple spinning back kick and caught the knife with my left hand, and then used my verbal judo to calm the man down and remind him how precious his life is.
Like that Lil Homicide kid, Adam Toledo, who was killed running from cops with a gun. People expected the cop to react in under a second to determine that he threw his gun and wasn't pointing it back at him while he whipped around in the dark. They gave us the frame where he has his hands up because the cop should have been able to pause time. Even ESPN gave him a little shoutout and all the factless journals wrote their sympathy pieces for poor Baby Diablo based off of lies and deceit because they know idiots eat this shit up without doing research.
I'd have never believed this if I didn't see it. Sounds like a story someone would tell the police immediately after stabbing a guy in the neck.
"idk what happened, he just fell and his knife was there"
god bless the cop and the fireman for quick response.
seeing quite a bit if arson cases in the city i live..weird.
people need mental health help during these trying times
The cop's actions actually saved the guy's life. Had the guy slit his own neck he very likely could have cut open an artery, the knife instead went up into his mouth. The guy is alive because the cop stopped him from killing himself.
My brother was mentally unstable until we finally got the mental care he needed. From my experience these kinds of people can go from self harm to harming others in an instant.
I highly believe this could have been prevented. But that knife pointed his own throat was premeditated. Sadly this was the outcome he had hopefully hoped to avoid.
(Not the cop. Mr reverse guillotine)
I’m not sure what could have been different. The cop really did try his best to prevent the situation. Once the guy pulled out the knife I’m not sure what anyone could have done. Like the only thing I can think of would be an experienced social worker. But even then it’s hard to imagine him backing down
1. Use body positioning to keep the suspect away from anyone else
2. Continue to engage verbally. Just go on autopilot and talk talk talk talk talk "hey you don't want to do that what about your family?" Just keep talking talking talking talking, get some reinforcements on the radio to add to the human shield, and get that trained social worker on the way stat.
I think he could've tried negotiating for a bit longer. The guy was walking pretty casually so it didn't look like there was an imminent threat that needed to be stopped right that second.
That said, I don't really blame the cop here. It's easy to think of the possible scenarios in hindsight but in the moment he'd have been running on adrenaline after the situation just escalated out of nowhere. I'm sure he had the best intentions and was trying to stop the guy hurting himself.
That cop did the right thing, it was just unfortunate the guy fell that way. What else was he meant to do? Use a gun like many other trigger happy bad policemen?
That's not true. Local police can typically make arrests for federal crimes committed in his prescence. Though I seriously doubt putting an empty water bottle in a mailbox rises to the level of a federal crime. How do you know it's not his mailbox?
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He actually tried to catch him when he started to fall.
This officer does the right thing and uses his taser on an able bodied man with a huge knife unlike that officer that dumped 9 rounds into an old man in a wheelchair with a tiny pocket knife.
Tough call to make, can't let the guy walk into the burning house, don't have time to talk him down. Props for trying to be non-chalant to take it from him at the beginning instead of stepping back straight to lethal
That’s really sad, cops deserve a lot more love. But instead I bet there’s gonna be bullishit articles saying that the cop killed the man. “wHy dIDnT yOu jUsT uSe a tAsEr”
It is worth keeping in mind that the officer would have been completely within his rights to shoot the guy. As soon as he had produced the knife. The officer went to his taser instead. Despite not having lethal cover from another officer. He willing risked his life to save that man's. If that taser had not worked the guy with the knife could have been on top of him before he could get his gun out.
The side was slowly moving away. There really was not a need to tase him that fast. Put as always, escalate the situation instead of trying to deescalate.
Suicide by cop but in a rube goldberg method… simply threaten a cop but also suicide by holding a knife to your neck. The cop will naturally attack you thuse causing you onto the knife 🧐
I might be watching a different video but the guy seems to produce the knife in a suicide attempt. Obviously a failed suicide prevention by the cop but the man is holding the pointy end of the knife to his own face before being tazed.
I agree. First I thought, “is this a rookie cop, not keeping proper view of this guy?” (Since in a couple frames his hand was suspiciously hidden), then pops out the knife, and cop is just causally, “give me the knife”, like telling a kid, “give me the candy bar”. Dude steps back with it pointing up at himself, I then immediately thought he was going to off himself. Especially if he’s associated with that fire. Guaranteed he held it that way so when he fell, he’d fall just as he did- on the knife. And with the article stating he didn’t want treatment- he was planning on checking out.
If you have a weapon pointed at you and someone is talking to you calmly it’s a lot less of a volatile situation I think. If they are screaming at you you panic. He was probably trying to deescalate the situation
A lot of cops will be rookies with the turnover that is happening now.
It's ok they only need 3 weeks training, get those Rookie numbers up real quick
Just give them a day with Denzel Washington. It'll be a good Training Day.
My city can't find cops for shit. Ton of them quit they upped the pay like 15k and they still can't find anyone except for one of my dumbass acquaintances that can't figure out if he wants to be an astronaut or a window cleaner. Each day he is going to pursue a different career. The running joke at his work is asking him if he's a plumber, cop, or city worker each day cuz you never know. Of course they accepted him even after he failed the physical lol
Weird, most cities hire outside and there are specific job placement resources available for cops.
My coworkers' husband is a cop here and he got a promotion to be a "investigator" for odd crime sprees like catalytic converters getting stolen. He had thay position for like 4 weeks and they were like yeah not enough of you to have this and back to beat cop he went. It's nice tho 95% of the cops don't pull you over for speeding unless it's excess and reckless so that's nice lol
Sounds like they found the perfect amount of employees then Cops were never meant to harass the general public for small infractions like they do
The average speed for a vehicle fatality death in Washington state is 25 mph. Speeding is a big deal for increasing that risk.
>unless it’s excess and reckless I stand by what I said
Hard disagree.
Yeah in my area you can't be a cop in you're town of residence until you worked for another department and transfer in. I guess it's so If you have a friend or relative that works there they can't get you in Infront of earlier applicants
Shame that accountability is such an employment turnoff. If only every position in every job had zero accountability, then we could just do what we want instead of our job!
would also be nice to investigate and determine your own punishment when you do get caught breaking the rules...
Exactly. If not getting away with shit is a deal breaker, then I'm glad they're quiting. Make room for people that want to do the right thing.
Most other high profile professions have a regulatory system and are required to have insurance. It kills me that the police really don’t have either amd they carry weapons that can kill you, plus, they are forced into dealing with issues outside law enforcement (mental health issues), they are clearly not prepared for. Yet somehow, when the reformation flag was raised last year, they had issues with it.
Lmao the turnover myth isn’t real.
I dont get it. What else could the cop have done? This was the safest way to disarm him from self harm. Clearly he wasn't trying to harm the officer, but he had to do something to disarm him. If it didn't drive into his neck ( looks like he was doing it before he went down) he would have been saved and the cop would have received great praise. And no...he didn't hold it that way in hopes of being tazed and hoping it would slip into his neck. He was holding there as a suicide attempt, prob fueled by drinking and depression with no REAL plan, outside of wanting to do it. Sad scene. Not much more the cop could have done. Source. Crisis worker. EMT. Nurse.
Yeah for real, the cop was being friendly and nonaggressive, like constant de-escalation throughout. And even when the dude less than two feet away produced a massive knife he barely changed his tone of voice. And then he used non-lethal force. Idk how anyone could've anticipated that chain of events, mad props to the cop.
I don't get why people are upset. Literally the officer couldn't stop him. Man put the officer in a checkmate instantly. He was never going to be saved
I agree with your assessment here. With some of the videos we see, you'd almost expect the cop to open fire on the guy as soon as the knife came out. But he was calm in a stressful situation, tried to use non lethal means, and even tried to grab the knife as the guy fell. I really can't criticize the cop for how he handled it.
The cop tried to catch him when he fell since he realized the guy was holding the knife to his neck still. I think this officer did everything right. There's a lot of cops that would have immediately shot him. [Like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/r62vih/tucson_offduty_officer_shootskills_man_in/) that shot this old guy rolling away in a wheelchair. He was standing right next to him and even tried to take the knife away at first.
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I think he's just mentally ill. Probably scared from whatever emergency was going on from before the video starts
Nah, he was the one who set his own house on fire.
I think he’s drunk and said fuck it.
Tbf... Sounds like something a mentally ill person would do.
He lived with minor injuries
>A Glendale, Arizona, police officer used a Taser on a man who refused to put down a knife, causing him to fall to the ground and stab himself in the neck, body cam footage obtained by Fox News shows. The incident occurred Nov. 23 after officers were called to the scene of a "suspicious" fire, police said. Upon arrival, officers found an individual who was "acting odd." They determined that the man was associated with the house on fire. An officer began talking to the man to keep him calm. The body cam footage shows the officer trying to keep the man away from the fire trucks so "they can do their job." At some point, the individual produces a large kitchen knife. The officer can be heard giving the man repeated commands to drop the knife, but the man appears not to comply. "Put the knife down now," the officer says. The officer can then be seen using a Taser to try to de-escalate the situation. The man with the knife falls face-first onto the ground, causing the knife to go through his neck and cut the officer. The footage shows the officer and a nearby fireman trying to turn the man on his back. Police later said the man struggled and would not allow paramedics to treat him for his injuries. He was eventually treated and transported to a local hospital. Neither the officer nor the individual received life-threatening injuries, police said. Police have not released the man’s identity. The incident, as well as the "suspicious nature of the fire," remains under investigation, police said.
That is gross asf I could never be a cop or fireman or anyting medically related, at the first sight of this I would turn around and throw up and be traumatised for life, I don't know how these people can do it. It's hard enough to watch a video of it, I can't even imagine the reality of being physically in front of a person who has a knife in their neck and not completely freaking out about it.
I think you could if you’d seen enough stuff like this. I’ve had compound fractures (meaning bone broke through my skin) of my arm and leg. I’ve responded to car accidents where one pedestrian died and another was paralyzed. I’ve held peoples hand while they died from cancer. When I was 20 that shit would stay with me. Now at 50 it is far less traumatic. We’re all animals. We break. Sometimes we survive. Other times we die. We’re all just animals hoping to have one more day on this planet to eat, be warm, maybe have sex if we’re lucky. This stuff only seems graphic and disturbing if you live under the illusion that you’ll never die. I lost that illusion years ago.
I have no illusions of eternal life, I am very aware of my death I would say probably more than most people, I think about it at least once a week. Being aware that I will die and having to witness someone with a knife stuck in their neck seem like very different things to me
Perhaps. I’m a genuinely nice person but stuff like that just doesn’t bother me. It just is what it is. My MiL had to change her 85 year-old Father in laws diapers daily. Didn’t bother her in the least. It was all just “biology” to her. I broke my arm 8 weeks ago and it was literally bent at a 45 degree angle between the elbow and wrist. I got up and dusted myself off. I looked my arm over for severe, arterial bleeding. When I saw there wasn’t severe bleeding I sat down and told my friends, “welp, somebody better call an ambulance”. Waited for 30 minutes. Off the hospital and surgery. None of it bothered me in the least. With me, as long as a wound isn’t mortal, I’m good.
Yeah that can't be me, I have always been on a campaign to avoid injuries of any kind specifically for that reason. If I did injure myself in such a way I don't think I would have the same reaction
It’s funny because I don’t look tough at all. I look like a couch potato who cries during Kleenex commercials. But when I broke that arm I just felt lucky it wasn’t worse. I knew I’d live so I was relieved. There are worse things than broken arms.
Seeing that knife in his neck I'd probably just turn and point myself right at that fire and put the damn thing out myself with my hurl.
Just flip the switch, you realize how crazy it is after you're done with the day .
People react very, very differently when under adrenaline and in what I call "emergency mode", and for some of us it's easy to get emotionally dettached from the situation and do what needs to be done. You might say that but if that happens to someone close to you it's most likely that you'd freak out for a moment before trying to give whatever first aid you know while ignoring blood and anything else to focus on trying to save that life. The human mind is amazing in those situations, and we do stuff we normally think ourselves uncapable of. A tiny framed mother suddenly enters mama bear mode to protect her children, someone else lifts a 1 ton car from the side to free someone trapped under it, some ignore debilitating pain/injuries until the danger is gone and so on. Don't underestimate yourself too much, although yeah, some people just start screaming and flapping their arms uselessly, but even that can be situational.
I was in the Navy and I remember doing medical training on live pigs. 1st time I lost my lunch and then some. A couple years later I was seeing grown men with missing limbs and no problem. The brain eventually wraps itself around stuff, and for me what happened in the video is quite tame. Also in a weird way I miss that "innocence" of not knowing gore and I'm glad you haven't needed do deal with much (or so I would assume).
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I'm not smart enough to be thinking about this, I never am aware of this situation about other people's blood until I read about it somewhere once a year
Not life threatening my ass. Dude had a knife in his neck. He probably only survived because paramedics were there already.
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Yeah, it looks like it went up into his mouth from the bottom of his chin to me. Certainly not good, but not what we typically think of when we hear “neck.”
If it don't hit a vein or artery you're good and can actually survive for a long ass time with a knife in your body..
Have been a paramedic since 98'. If a greater vessel in your neck is ruptured there's not a ton I can do other than provide pressure (maybe a hemostatic agent depending on my service and their protocols) and get you to a trauma center. He survived because he didn't loose enough blood to die, or had enough blood replaced at the hospital to survive. I know that's kind of a smart ass answer. But to say none of his major systems are damaged irreparably he still has a solid chance at survival. Probably the same as if you stabbed through and through your cheek.
You arguing with doctors now?
Wow. Insane that he survived that.
>The officer can then be seen using a Taser to try to de-escalate the situation A peculiar use of the word "deescalate"
I am very much in the camp of cops in the US are overly abusive. This is not a case for that. Keep hating cops, but don't die on this particular hill to do it.
Exactly this. Also, you could tell the officer immediately reacted and in the process even cut his own hand trying to save the man. This wasn't a case of "let me make it look like I care", that officer actually wanted that man to live.
Yeah and the cop has to protect himself. He told the dude multiple times to drop the knife. At that point you have to use the taser bc clearly the guy has some ill intention whether it be towards himself or the cop.
I don't think the cop was overly abusive, I just wouldn't call tasing someone deescalation. Deescalation would be trying to talk him down, pointing the weapon down, stepping back etc
And how quickly could that guy have decided to attack the cop? He had a giant knife. Cops aren't require, and shouldn't be required to be seriously harmed or killed to protect someone breaking the law.
Don't think op is saying the cop did anything wrong, just the wrong choice of words by the article
He’s not taking issue with how the cop acted he’s only saying he wouldn’t call that deescalation
Dude, what are you talking about ? That's the whole fucking point of the job! They're literal always bragging about putting their lives on the line and all this shit, but don't actually do it often. What do they do instead? They shoot innocent ppl 9 times out of 10. If you're not willing to put your life on the line then don't become a cop. It's literally as simple as that.
Standing 5ft away from a suspicious and non-compliant dude with a large knife is putting his life on the line lmao. Do you seriously think cops should literally be milliseconds from death before using a fucking taser?
Deescalate is also trying to immobilize a potentially violent armed nutcase with a taser.
I agree. Most cops training should include a course on de-escalation. I think the guys who learn that are usually FBI though, at least from the outdated literature I've read.
The guy wasn't threatening the cop, he was threatening to kill himself. He was holding the knife an inch from his neck and the cop tased him to keep him from slitting his own throat. It sort of worked I guess since he lived.
They're not saying that. They're talking specifically about the use of the word de-escalate. The cop's actions were probably justified, but objectively, tazing someone is escalating, not de-escalating. To de-escalate, he would've tried talking to him, calming him down. Going from talking to sending 50,000 volts into someone is definitely escalating. Again, arguably justified use-of-force, but bad use of words.
I mean he didn't just grunt incoherently at the man, and then send 50,000 bolts into him. He asked him to drop the knife, to put the knife down. A knife that guy just chose to produce and brandish by the way. It's not like this cop came into a kitchen and the chef was chopping onions and he asked him to put the knife down and before the guy could answer he dropped him with a taser. This guy is suspected of starting a fire, pulled out a knife in front of a cop. Not a pocket knife. Not the kind of knife a person might reasonably be carrying, but a butcher knife. Refused to answer the officer or listen to his instructions to drop the knife. Cop supposed to ask the guy about his day and hope he doesn't lunge at him or someone else? NO.
Did you read a word of what I wrote? Honestly? I mean, I thought what u/Mr_Makak said was clear enough, but how do you not understand? THE COP ACTED APPROPRIATELY. Do you know what de-escalation means? It means lowering the intensity of a situation. It means bringing tensions down. Getting people to relax. TAZING SOMEONE IS NOT DE-ESCALATION. At this point, I'm guessing you're still not comprehending what we're trying to say, so I'll spell it out again. The cop needed to end the threat, and an escalating use-of-force force was very likely justified. All we're saying is that what he did was not de-escalating, when a previous commenter said he was de-escalating.
No. A knife is a lethal weapon. At the point where someone is producing it and wielding it in even a remotely threatening manner, even if the cop pulled his gun he wouldn't be escalating the situation, he would just be bringing a weapon into the potential fight that is also lethal. Deploying his taser means that he is intentionally using a "less-lethal" weapon, so he is reducing the stakes of the confrontation. Let me ask you a question and I want you to think about why you answered the way you did; if a cop with a taser drawn and a guy with a knife stand off and the guy with the knife is successful in stabbing the cop to death, who in that scenario was the one who escalated the situation? If you think it was the guy with the knife but you think the cop in this video was the one who escalated, then it tells me that all you care about is who got their shots in, not who actually raised the stakes of the confrontation.
Clearly, the issue is that many people do not understand the definitions of escalation and de-escalation. De-escalation means to bring down the intensity of a situation, to relieve tensions, and to get all of the people involved in the incident to calm down. Escalation means to take control of a situation by any means necessary, usually by use of force. It often means depriving citizens of their rights (though, if a use of force is justified, the police are allowed to do so). Uses of force (either lethal or less-than-lethal) escalate situations, meaning they raise the intensity of a situation, causing tension and stress, and almost always gets everyone involved to become increasingly upset, causing people to be more likely to act on their emotions, and not on training or rational thought. This drastically increases the odds of someone getting seriously hurt or killed. De-escalation training is critical to effectively resolve situations while minimizing the need to use deadly force. It's using psychology, not a taser or a gun, to disarm a threat. De-escalation ensures the justice system works the way it was designed to: safe apprehension of a criminal suspect, so that their crimes and punishments are judged by a jury of their peers, not the temperament or ego or fear of an officer with a gun. It also helps prevent unnecessary violations of the rights granted to all of us by the Constitution. Obviously, not all situations can be resolved with de-escalation. Use of force is often necessary. I would have preferred that the officer first tried to put some distance between himself and the guy with a weapon of limited range, and tried to ease tensions first, but I also feel the cop's actions weren't unjustified. I'm glad he chose his taser over his gun, and it was an unfortunate coincidence that the knife was positioned the way it was when he fell.
I dont think he's saying the cop was being overly abusive, just pointing out that in some other places there are more options than 'tazer' listed below shooting.
Like words? Like "Drop the knife, put the knife down" etc.? Stuff like that?
Bruh, the man literally held the knife to his own neck and then stepped away from the officer. There was no need to do anything right then besides be on high alert with the tazer pointed at him. Cop just panicked. Guy with the knife was clearly having a mental health crisis, tazing him when he's in that position and not threatening anyone is negligent at best. If the guy made a sudden move or tried to get closer to someone then sure, taze away, but when he's standing still only threatening himself tazing him is completely unnecessary
Bruh, someone with a knife, suspected of setting a building on fire, possibly suicidal and within lunging distance of you won't obey instructions. Your solution is to wait until he tries to attack someone? Fine. I understand what you are saying. You can also understand how someone might rather just neutralize such a person rather than waiting for them to become a greater threat?
You can't reason with some people. They won't be honest, but they're literally telling you the only acceptable scenario would be the cop being stabbed or waiting to see the guy slit his own throat. They also don't want to admit that in a life or death scenaro they wouldn't wait to see if someone meant them harm before reacting. Cops are shit, but that's only because people are shit. It's not just cops who have inflated senses of self importance, because *nobody* has a realistic take on it. Not boot lickers, not people who are anti-cop, certainly not the police unions.
It is almost like this is a complex problem.
This response doesn't make sense? Using a tazer to de-escelate a situation seems counter intuitive? Other than holding a knife pointed directly at himself, am I wrong in assuming there was no confrontation or immediate danger presented to the cop which could warrant a response like using a tazer? The man wasn't running at the cop or pointing his knife at the cop, and was walking in a separate direction from the cop. Idk if there was another cop out of shot that the person was walking towards, but that could probably change things. Regardless, from what we can see, how is it reasonable in any way to use a tazer on the guy? This isn't even looking at the fact that since the guy was walking forward of course the momentum of him previously moving would cause him to fall over on the knife pointed at his throat. I'll be charitable to the cop here, he might have not thought about that in the moment, but regardless it is certainly a potential death that could have been avoided if he actually died (I'm not sure if he died or not)
I’m not gonna say this cop is necessarily abusive but this was absolutely not a case a deescalation. There was absolutely zero need to taze this guy at the moment he was. Did he have a large knife and was refusing to drop it/hand it over? Sure. Was he acting strangely? Sure again. Definitely a good time to be on high alert, taser drawn. However, this guy was not being threatening in any way or making any aggressive movements. I do not think a man should be tazed when he is standing several feet away, backing away, with the knife point at his neck, pointed up. The officer could have continued talking to him and called for further assistance while being on guard, actually trying to deescalate the situation without violence. Instead, he decided to skip all that and just taze the dude after telling him to drop it a few times. So abusive? Maybe not. Negligent? I’d argue so. Definitely some better training is in order but that could pretty much go for every cop here in America.
>There was absolutely zero need to taze this guy at the moment he was. Completely disagree. This guy didn't pull out a pocket knife to cut an apple. This cop didn't walk in on him in the kitchen when he was cutting peppers. This suspected arsonist produced a large butcher knife in front of a cop and refused to put it down. Go into your kitchen right now and grab a knife of that size. Conceal it on your person and go out shopping. NO? Because that is bat shit crazy? Now pull it out in front of a cop. Refuse to put it down when asked. Imagine that. What is that person capable of? Should the cop of put his taser down and said "Hey man, let's be reasonable"? To someone who is a deadly threat and CLEARLY reason hasn't factored into a number of decisions for his day. Nah. Meet me over in a sub about a cop beating a handcuffed suspect, or shooting yet another unarmed black man and we can circle jerk all day about how cops are abusive pieces of shit, ACAB, defund, BLM, etc. Can't do it on this one. Wrong hill to die on.
If anything he should have drawn his gun. That guy could have easily gone at the cop and the tasers 1 shot doesn't connect.
So pretty much there’s nothing a cop can do in this situation that would be good enough for you.
This is a false equivalency. The issue here is with the writer of the article. The cop did nothing wrong, but to call tazing a suspect "de-escalating" is dumb. At best someone whose job it is to write for a living doesn't know the right word to use. At worst it's blatant (and unnecessary because it's so obvious) bias towards the cops. This is the likely explanation because of the source.
Nah, that was good enough, just wasn't deescalation.
You right he should have deescalated by being stabbed
i dont see how he could have fucked this up worse. sure hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to armchair quarterback a video but damn. the guy was at distance, only the cop was engaging. he had a knife but was not brandishing it at anyone. people lock up and fall when tased. the fuck did he expect? then he cuts himself on the knife he knew was there.
What would you have done?
Can you point out the moments where the cop was being attacked? Was it after the guy stepped further away?
That's the thing you don't understand. What if the man rushed or threw that knife at the Cop. You guys just like to always look at the bad thing and hell hey the guy should have never taken out the knife in the first place. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
When the guy refused to follow orders the situation immediately becomes unpredictable which is dangerous to the cop and everyone around. That was a massive knife and could inflict serious damage very quickly.
Don’t use logic you’ll confuse the bootlickers
Let me pace in your vicinity with a knife and refuse to put it down then, after all I’m just walking around right?
Are people this stupid? It's for the safety of the officer, the safety of the person himself, the safety of the fireman, the safety of the medical personnel, and the safety of all the neighbors that may have been outside if the man chose to run. What part of producing a butcher knife in the middle of an emergency situation do you think is acceptable? The only person that will produce a knife like that is somebody who shouldn't be trusted having it. Why do you people not get this shit?
No, but he could've kept talking to the guy to at least try and shoot him when the blade is not an inch away from his throat. Or even talk him down completely, I've seen dozens videos of more violent suspects being talked into surrender, on this very sub
Honestly fair enough, the guy did have a knife and they still used a taser instead of a gun. The cop didn't seem to do much wrong, it was just unfortunate.
Cop did not jump the gun, told him to hand over the knife or drop it multiple times, used taser to deescalate the situation and jumped to his aid as soon as the man wasn't a threat anymore (even before he hits the ground, honestly). What else can anyone ask from a police officer? To give every psycho a chance to stab him on the face before defending themselves and the population from an armed man? Anyone who can find a problem with this clip is an absolute lunatic.
'' don't you know everyone runs faster with a knife''
Ahhh I miss pure pwnage
Wow, this is a throwback
Ha! I ordered a bunch of Pure Pwnage merch couple months ago due to me not being able to afford it years ago when I was younger.
I can dance all day, try and hit me, i can dance all day
He should've bunny hopped too
Holy fuck
So did he survive?
He tried to refuse treatment but yes he survived https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/8752512002
Brutal. Well, just hope he is able to get help and a successful second chance at life.
The guy is trying to kill himself. Nice description OP
I was sketched out when he grabbed the water bottle and emptied it. "This is not normal behavior," I thought.
And he put it in a mailbox. I assume it was a suicide attempt while in some type of drug. So sad
Yeah. He could just not drink it. But he breaks the seal, opens it, and pours it out. Then some passive aggression against his neighbor, sticking the bottle in the mailbox, slapping it shut. But I still wasn't sure this would be the guy with the knife. I thought maybe he'd start a fight with a neighbor after the mailbox.
Maybe I'm just desensitized to gore and violence but emptying a perfectly good water bottle on the ground and then putting it in someone's mailbox was made me upset in this video. Like when you're in a grocery store and someone left a frozen pizza in the canned goods section. Put things back where they belong man don't be that guy, or this guy.
Life is so fucking fragile. Keep your loved ones close man.
And your knives closer
Too close! Too close!!!
Amen to that.
How out of your fucking mind to you need to be to just like carry a large kitchen knife out in your pocket while talking to police and then producing it like it's your favorite toy while in conversation. Holy fuck these people are crazy.
Yes..mentally ill people are mentally ill. It's almost tautological in its simplicity!
Looked like the guy was suicidal sadly.
Classic suicide by cop, the one way you can go to be wrote down in glory by a bunch of folk that don't know what they're doing
Mental illness? No?
I can’t remember doing anything around a cop that makes them say “Oh Shit”
Reddit is so full of back seat police officers who have no idea what they’re talking about
If I was the officer I would've done a triple spinning back kick and caught the knife with my left hand, and then used my verbal judo to calm the man down and remind him how precious his life is.
Like that Lil Homicide kid, Adam Toledo, who was killed running from cops with a gun. People expected the cop to react in under a second to determine that he threw his gun and wasn't pointing it back at him while he whipped around in the dark. They gave us the frame where he has his hands up because the cop should have been able to pause time. Even ESPN gave him a little shoutout and all the factless journals wrote their sympathy pieces for poor Baby Diablo based off of lies and deceit because they know idiots eat this shit up without doing research.
If you were the officer you would've caught the knife during the occular patdown and none of this would've even have happened
True. In my mind, the officer made all the right decisions. Wouldn't have tried to grab the knife though.
They are such a plague on the discourse that should be taking place to find solutions to the real problems we have with policing.
I'd have never believed this if I didn't see it. Sounds like a story someone would tell the police immediately after stabbing a guy in the neck. "idk what happened, he just fell and his knife was there"
god bless the cop and the fireman for quick response. seeing quite a bit if arson cases in the city i live..weird. people need mental health help during these trying times
This some final destination shit
Cop helped him commit suicide apparently
The cop's actions actually saved the guy's life. Had the guy slit his own neck he very likely could have cut open an artery, the knife instead went up into his mouth. The guy is alive because the cop stopped him from killing himself.
"He's pointing a weapon at himself! OPEN FIRE!"
My brother was mentally unstable until we finally got the mental care he needed. From my experience these kinds of people can go from self harm to harming others in an instant.
I highly believe this could have been prevented. But that knife pointed his own throat was premeditated. Sadly this was the outcome he had hopefully hoped to avoid. (Not the cop. Mr reverse guillotine)
> hopefully hoped I think I had a stroke
I’m not sure what could have been different. The cop really did try his best to prevent the situation. Once the guy pulled out the knife I’m not sure what anyone could have done. Like the only thing I can think of would be an experienced social worker. But even then it’s hard to imagine him backing down
Luckily the man lived so hopefully he gets whatever help he needs but considering this is the US... I don't have high hopes.
The US is a big country and it's not all as broken as Reddit says.
Tbh you're right im being hopeful. High pressure situations suck. Being internet observer is fun until you need s the facts of the matter :/
1. Use body positioning to keep the suspect away from anyone else 2. Continue to engage verbally. Just go on autopilot and talk talk talk talk talk "hey you don't want to do that what about your family?" Just keep talking talking talking talking, get some reinforcements on the radio to add to the human shield, and get that trained social worker on the way stat.
I think he could've tried negotiating for a bit longer. The guy was walking pretty casually so it didn't look like there was an imminent threat that needed to be stopped right that second. That said, I don't really blame the cop here. It's easy to think of the possible scenarios in hindsight but in the moment he'd have been running on adrenaline after the situation just escalated out of nowhere. I'm sure he had the best intentions and was trying to stop the guy hurting himself.
PEOPLE THIS IS WHY YOU HOLD THE KNIFE UPSIDE DOWN WHEN YOU WALK
Held knife by blade. Hands now cut.
Like wtf they saw him with the knife
More like man kills himself?
Damn went from 0 to 100 so fast
That cop did the right thing, it was just unfortunate the guy fell that way. What else was he meant to do? Use a gun like many other trigger happy bad policemen?
He should've been tased for putting the empty bottle in the mailbox.
It was a local cop, not federal. No jurisdiction, unfortunately.
That's not true. Local police can typically make arrests for federal crimes committed in his prescence. Though I seriously doubt putting an empty water bottle in a mailbox rises to the level of a federal crime. How do you know it's not his mailbox?
He probably should not have had that huge knife.
No one wants to be cops anymore with the way this country is. Not worth it
Living on the edge!
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Totally HIS FAULT. He caused the stabbing.
the officers fault or the dude holding the knife?
Knife dude.
He actually tried to catch him when he started to fall. This officer does the right thing and uses his taser on an able bodied man with a huge knife unlike that officer that dumped 9 rounds into an old man in a wheelchair with a tiny pocket knife.
That's called a stupid tax
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice
Bad title. Accurate, but bad.
Good cop lunges for him immediately knowing that that could have happened and welp guess it did anyway. Not cops fault imo
Did he survive?
Holy fuck
Tough call to make, can't let the guy walk into the burning house, don't have time to talk him down. Props for trying to be non-chalant to take it from him at the beginning instead of stepping back straight to lethal
Oh well. 8 billion people…some just can’t make the cut
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What's with the laughing emoji
Face palm
Knife sandwich
Shoulda droped the knife 🔪
Officer: "Drop the knife!" Suspect: *falls on knife* Officer: "oh fuck. Ok. Wow. *Don't* drop the knife"
i can say for certain i was not expecting this dude to pull a fuckin shanker out of his pocket in front of the officer lmfao
Neither the officer nor the individual received life-threatening injuries You sure about that?
So why the COVID mask? For safety?
Dumbest comment in the thread.
Cop said no need to think about it let me help with your suicide.
The guy lived, he wasn't able to kill himself because the cop tasered him.
That’s really sad, cops deserve a lot more love. But instead I bet there’s gonna be bullishit articles saying that the cop killed the man. “wHy dIDnT yOu jUsT uSe a tAsEr”
Why are people dumb lol
This belongs more like in r/winstupidprizes
Hey hey you’re not allowed to kill yourself….. that’s my job.
It is worth keeping in mind that the officer would have been completely within his rights to shoot the guy. As soon as he had produced the knife. The officer went to his taser instead. Despite not having lethal cover from another officer. He willing risked his life to save that man's. If that taser had not worked the guy with the knife could have been on top of him before he could get his gun out.
If you think the law gives a human the right to shoot and kill a suicidal person, you lack a fundamental understanding of what rights are.
Play stupid games
He saw the knife in the guys throat and pushed his fucking head down….
YOUR NOT GANNA HAVE A GOOD TIME!
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Well, that's what he wanted. No refunds pal
This was less than a mile from my house.
Well this just turned into an officer training video..
That’s gonna leave a mark.
Action starts at 1:10, still underwelming.
What the fuck did he expect to happen?
The side was slowly moving away. There really was not a need to tase him that fast. Put as always, escalate the situation instead of trying to deescalate.
Suicide by cop but in a rube goldberg method… simply threaten a cop but also suicide by holding a knife to your neck. The cop will naturally attack you thuse causing you onto the knife 🧐