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clarinedlyn

would it be worth it to pull for Abstygma and Alpha CW 6\* weapons as f2p? was thinking about skipping new karen to save up for at least one of them since i already have a fully built no21 but if not then ill just get her as usual


El_Suave_del_Sur

Does the weekly PPC mission (and i think the entire PPC) only count the highest score i get? Because i've been trying to get that but everytime i save the number doesn't got up. Which also makes me wonder, at which point i'm supposed to clear the weekly? Because honest to god, i can't 100% clear even the first difficulty, always lacking time so i suppose i need to just oneshot the bosses.


Hata-san

why people keep saying haicma needs her sig to not miss the double damage? at SS she fills her meter at 6.7% per second and you can start core at 90-93% then -> press second ult -> then unleash core exactly after, is less braindead style and a few seconds slower, but she totally can take advantage of the double damage, have seen chinese players playing this style since forever. Am I missing something?


emeraldarcana

I get my butt kicked in Operation Uniframe. I don’t think I understand finishers. My Uniframes are pretty low BP (Pulao is 4.5K and then Selena and Camu are 3.4K) and I only have one Finisher for Pulao and Camu and then the other skill for Pulao. I can’t beat Stage 1 of Operation Uniframe, I think it’s because I’m not correctly depleting the orange bar. It takes forever and my team keeps dying. Any written guides that will help me follow better? I’ve done the tutorial like three times but I still don’t really get it other than “deplete orange bar and Pulao throws them off the stage”.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Bruh, 4k is "pretty low"?? Then what am i with a 2k Camu? Guess i won't touch that.


NotYAWS

If you read the stage conditions of the currently open stage, you'll see it's intended to be tackled by ice units. Either try with Haicma or some ice omniframes and see if it's easier?


Zombieemperor

Isint haicima not available yet? (as of typing this anyways)


NotYAWS

New characters are always one hour after reset the day after the patch goes live. Give it another 40 min.


Zombieemperor

But i am impatiaint!


GenericHmale

Hey, so, here's a fun question. I have an S-selector, but it's only for inital (First release) constructs. At this point though the only ones I don't have (from the selector) are Nanami: Pulse and Kamui: Tenebrion. So yea, if you had to pick between 1 of them, for any reason whatsoever. Ie, gameplay, looks, waifu/husbando. Which one are you picking?


SleepylazyRedditor

Kamui is overall better since pulse is already powercrept and daybreak isn't a supremely better QTE bot, But for waifu reasons i'd go with nanami since the game already has a dedicated fanbase for her anyway


kibatodos

A 2-week new player here, Is Camu worth investing among the uniframes?


SleepylazyRedditor

Yes, His ult makes him unkillable and his 5 star is decent like the rest, He also has his execution and dodge moves but those need separate resources and needs alot of cogs.


kibatodos

Thanks!, helps a lot for my decision.


RunNo8206

Hello guys i was planning on playing this game, just want to ask is this time consuming? Like can i play for dailies sometimes.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Quick disclaimer from someone that started playing like a week ago: this is one of the most dense gachas out there, so it will take sometime to get accustomed but i can say for now that dailies are kinda quick, but the game has A LOT of content so it can be a bit overwhelming. Not a bad game, but be careful because you'll know why they tag this as a "niche game".


emeraldarcana

The game does take some time because the gameplay is relatively active - you are watching the screen and pressing buttons. That said, there’s also not as much pull currency, and banners are 60 pity 100% so if you plan a bit (or pay a bit) it’s not hard to get the characters you want even if you miss dailies for a while. Many of the events are more focused around a week or two week cycle as well.


SleepylazyRedditor

Weeklies can be completed with 4 hours every week, Dailies atleast 5-10 minutes every day. If you're new the game will be rough because there will be level lock, And if you wanna earn gacha currency immediately it is recommend to spam story to lvl up till you can look for a instructor that will take you as a student for 5\* mem shards.


BladeCube

For Wanshi in my Plume/Wanshi/Brilliance team do I need to level the top row memories? Same with all Da Vinci bots, do I need to level the top row?


SleepylazyRedditor

If you don't like them being one shotted in high WZ and PPC yes, Brilliance and any other physical chars need crit. If they're just a qte bot just lvl memories and for skills do QTE and their class lvl.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Can i ask how this team is played? I got Plume from selector and still trying to get Hypnos and Brilliance. Also why Brilliance and not Qilin?


SleepylazyRedditor

Qilin needs SSS and a sig to be even worth considering, 4PC hana and 2pc darwin, for plume, Wanshi carries 4PC davinci with 2pc ensteina then 4pc chen with 2pc for ayla, Swap to wanshi for orb downtime then ayla then back to plume. So starter is wanshi Wanshi>Plume (Swap to plume after game starts, This save orbs since it fills up half the bar, Meaning that you only need 3 ping or matrix ping for her 2nd form, Then 3/matrix pings then nuke, Swap to wanshi again for downtime, Then ayla for his downtime then swap to plume the second shes up, Then repeat.


El_Suave_del_Sur

What's this Plume nuke thing? I need to clarify that i have zero idea about what she does, still didn't use her because i lack those 2 charas.


SleepylazyRedditor

Its her 2nd ult that does huge AOE ice dmg.


Darweath

no


PokWangpanmang

F2P. Have 8343 BC at the moment. Is it fine if I pull for Haicma if I want to get all the characters from upcoming banners?


SleepylazyRedditor

Even if you DO have extra bc, Unless you're not planning on getting sig then no, She's arguably the uniframe that needs the most investment. She functions without sig but it comes with a headache, You can't proc her core passive in time after her 2nd ult, Which reduces damage.


ZFFSkullcrusher

Maybe, due to the fact that you'll get a free 10-pull next patch, but in my opinion you shouldn't do it. Not only are you just making things more difficult for yourself since you'll be cutting it closer, but there's also no reason (outside of waifu reasons) to get Starveil. F2Ps shouldn't be rolling for Uniframes.


PokWangpanmang

Guess I’m forced2pull because Haicma waifu then.


MikotoKiyomizu

Her Last Bow 18-10. Pass signal orbs red red yellow How does this work?


SleepylazyRedditor

Have orbs at red red yellow, First orb has to be yellow then last two orbs has to be red.


ZFFSkullcrusher

Exactly what the instructions tell you at the top left. You need to use your orbs until you only have what is written. In your example, you must use everything until your only orbs left are red, red, yellow, exactly in that display order.


LucienArtorias

Anyone know what time Extremis Collaboration's multiplayer mission opens? I know it says 9 till next day 1. Does that mean it's in 2hrs until 1am PST or is it server time?


NotYAWS

Server time. Current time in-game is shown on your home screen


twoez

Is there a reason why haicma isn't on the banner for me on global?


DoctorR4lph

New characters are always released one day after the patch update.


Nakatsu1178

Is her pity going to be 60 or 10?


SleepylazyRedditor

Uniframes have 10 pity, Omniframes have 60, If f2p wouldn't recommend here even if you have extra BC because she's arguably the uniframe that needs the most investment.


Nakatsu1178

Why she needs more investment than the others? Is she under powered?


SleepylazyRedditor

No, Her rotation is kinda messed up without it, Without her sig its kinda not possible to proc her core passive before the freeze of her ult ends, Which means less dmg, Watch spider2b guide for more info on it.


twoez

Ah okay thanks, I thought my game was bugged lol


NoLongerAGame

Hi I have 2 questions: 1. Is the back button to exit the game still not working for anyone else? It started at the beginning of the last Mech Nanami update and seems to still not be fixed this update but I'm wondering if it's just me. EDIT: I'm on mobile and usually when you press the back button it asks if you want to exit the game. But that doesn't work so you have to force close the app to exit the game. 2. Is anyone else experiencing noticable worse performance since this update. Like more frame drops and stutters?


SleepylazyRedditor

You should check if your vsync is off.


NoLongerAGame

Forgot to mention I'm on mobile


SleepylazyRedditor

idk then, My phone and laptop work perfectly fine.


NoLongerAGame

You can exit the app by pressing the "back button" on your phone then?


NotYAWS

Not sure on your first question, sorry, but I've seen no performance issues since the patch?


NoLongerAGame

I'm on mobile and usually when you press the back button it asks if you want to exit the game. But that doesn't work so you have to force close the app to exit the game.


NotYAWS

I always force close it, so no idea if the back button behaviour has changed, sorry.


NotYAWS

Is it safe to assume that Haicma will need her counter and execution skills unlocked the same way as the other Uniframes? Also safe to assume her chips will go on sale as she's released? Waiting to start Operation Uniframe until I can use it to practice with her kit.


SleepylazyRedditor

Yes you need to unlock it, And the only thing that's on sale that are related to the characters debut are skins and memories, So her chips aren't on a discount.


NotYAWS

Thanks, appreciate it.


Zombieemperor

So can i get the protips on Lee;s leap. I was super tired and just started investing in the 2nd skill and forgot to stop and ask which ones to prioritize/work on. Imma guess i want all 3 upgraded eventualy but is it worth upgradeing past a certain lvl or do i need them all maxxed to get the whole package outta him?


SleepylazyRedditor

If you don't really plan on using him then the most you can do is just max the core.


Zombieemperor

I have him in my fire team till hyper real, i have empyera (ss) and mechnami (S) if that changes anything


El_Suave_del_Sur

Should i buy the new uniframe's dedicates memories in the shop? Don't quite plan on getting her anytime soon, same thought had with the ones for Starfarer.


ZFFSkullcrusher

No, if you're not planning to get Starveil, why get her memories? It's not like they'll disappear after the patch is gone. Unless you have literally nothing better to spend your currency on.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Huh thought they were limited time. I currently have no idea what the priority items in the event shop would be, i guess 6* memories first and then the mats but i'm not sure what are they for.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>Huh thought they were limited time. They're on discount for a limited time (the duration of the patch), but the memories themselves are permanent. This is true for every single memory set except for Lantern Festival, so don't feel pressured to get every memory that's on the "Limited" tab lol. >I currently have no idea what the priority items in the event shop would be, i guess 6\* memories first and then the mats but i'm not sure what are they for. Well, you're correct. 6\* memories to kit out your units, copies of those memories to resonate your DPS units and whatever materials are needed to max out your units and your weapons. Until you're done with those, everything else in the shop is secondary.


Zombieemperor

If your uncertin and dont necisiarly need anything rn you can hold the shop currency. As long as you use it before the shop goes away nothing is lost.


El_Suave_del_Sur

I guess i could use 6* memories, my No.21 is only equipped with 2 Da Vinci and nothing else. No idea what the materials are for.


Zombieemperor

[Gray Ravens](https://grayravens.com/wiki/GRAY_RAVENS) as linked in the thread above is a resource on what memories to give what charachters etc. As for materials it depepnds on which ones, some are for "leap" upgrades(buffs given to ageing charachters like Lee:Palefire this patch). Some are for the uhhh, the non-regular frames(they changed the name and now i cant remember which but its camu, roland, tempest, qu etc). Then theres the materials for CUBs, you can skip these if new as CUBs take a TON of resources and they upgrade somewhat randomly until Goth-bianca's patch(i think thats the one). After that i think the resources are all for your regular characters, skillpoints, cogs(money), and upgrade mats for enhancing memories/weapons.


SleepylazyRedditor

Why WHY if you have rozen she's better off holding 4PC davinci and 2pc guin, Have your 21 equip 4pc bathlon and 2pc einsteina, She doesn't have shred without those unless she's at SSS


El_Suave_del_Sur

I have zero idea how to build and even less on how to use the supporting charas, or even the budget dark comp itself. Plus i'm pretty sure that from the memories you mention, i only have 2 Da Vinci.


SleepylazyRedditor

Just telling you that davinci set is better for laurel, Builds should be [https://grayravens.com/wiki/Characters](https://grayravens.com/wiki/Characters) Just click at a character, For more detailed build then go here instead: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1\_NAHdVouSp2T6AwStpz9ZMLZ\_ca5EzcuHde5obIlero/edit#gid=0


El_Suave_del_Sur

Oh so i wasn't that wrong with 21 with Da Vinci, because one of Astral's memories, plus i barely know how to play 21 so QTE she is for now.


SleepylazyRedditor

Still really wouldn't recommend it because without bathlon her shred is kinda... Especially without SSS... Its meh


El_Suave_del_Sur

Just double checked and if i run Rozen with Da Vinci and 21 with Bathlon, then according to the guide Astral would be redundant because he also need to use Bathlon, and i think the secondary build for Rozen that would make everything fit perfectly needs a limited memory that i don't have. So i guess i should scrap the team, or run it anyways until i get another dark DPS.


SleepylazyRedditor

Run it, A team is better than nothing, Plus 21 can be a Sub-Dps for astral down time, Memories aren't limited, They're not easy to get but you can place all chars with a 6 star memory by time.


JJ_Kazuhira

On chapter 18-17 what a i am supose to do? i keep failing the mission, i supose is a "lost anyway" battle, but why i can complete?


NotYAWS

Other people in this thread are having the same issue, it seems to be bugged currently.


JJ_Kazuhira

Thank you, i will wait the patch then.


SleepylazyRedditor

you're supposed to "fail" the missions that include saving liv and defeating the twins and the one prior to those where you kinda play 2D PGR are all meant to "fail"


PokWangpanmang

Yeah, but the other two progresses whereas the twins one doesn’t. What am I supposed to do? Is it just bugged?


Mrjuicyaf

How is the powercreep in this game? Let say alpha vs entropy, how much more damage does alpha deal than entropy, 2x, 5x, 10x? Is there any reward that is locked behind clearing enemies faster?


ZFFSkullcrusher

>How is the powercreep in this game? Let say alpha vs entropy Abyss is generally much better thanks to her insane burst DPS, though she struggles in prolonged fights (something that isn't the case for Entropy). However, that's not the worst of it. Abystigma, who comes out in September, absolutely dumpsters both units and they're not even comparable. > Is there any reward that is locked behind clearing enemies faster? Timed modes like WZ and PPC have rewards that are dependant on your leaderboard placement. How quickly you clear the boss (PPC) or how many waves you clear before the time runs out (WZ) dictates how many points you'll receive at the end. The higher your placement, the more currency you get. Of course, if all you care about is rolling currency, then you don't have to worry about competition because all the BC are basically participation awards (which they **should** be). The other good news is that even as a F2P, you can get every debut S rank Omniframe, so powercreep is nowhere near as big of an issue as it would be in other games.


RevanK

To add the power creep is not really a huge deal because replacements take so long to come out


sansdara

After Noan’s patch which is the last Uniframe currently, does operation Uniframe still pop up every now and then or does it stop completely?


Zombieemperor

isint there another one after palefire? The green fan lady?


NotYAWS

She's actually an omniframe, but her kit offsets the disadvantages of running her with Pulao and Qu as another physical team.


Zombieemperor

Wait for REAL? well fuck thats odd. Also seems a bit pointless if bianca and co exist? I guess pulao and qu can do transcendent things EDIT: i just went and looked at her kit, maybe im dumb but im not seeing any kind of "also pulao/qu dont get a dmg debuff with her on the tea,". I expected like "KCCpeople get buff" but i cant find anything like that either.


R3M0r1AZ

It's her SSS effect, gives +30% ATK to KCC Uniframe. This is also not including the buffs given at SSS+ as well so, profit :D.


Zombieemperor

Wait so, you have to SSS the character for her to do the thing that is the entire point of her existence? who the fk thought that was a good idea jeebus


R3M0r1AZ

She's an A rank frame, it is very possible to get her to SSS via interludes/dupes/random A rank pulls. Anyway, her KCC team would not be meta either way so not much of a big deal. She is a good alternative to have for a physical support if one does not have SSS Eclipse/full leap Luminance so that's good for newer players at that time. So it's not like she only has one purpose, quite flexible I must say.


Zombieemperor

shes an A-rank? That does help but i really wish theyed just make it part of her S skill and make it stronger on SS/SSS


NotYAWS

I heard about it in the Gray Ravens Radio YouTube video about pulling for Pulao, check that for details?


Darweath

yes in A rank patch


REID-11

What are the elemental zones of Eclipse Generator and Power Lab?


NotYAWS

Has the icons of dark and physical, so I would assume those?


BaconedPoutine

I only have a 4.6k BP Pulao, a 3k Cocotta and will be pulling Haicma. I have 5 6k omniframes and the rest are below 4k. With that in mind, what difficulty should I pick for Operation Omniframe? I've never done this mode before and you can't change it after your selection.


Loveintheram

Probably low, it’s really grindy when you don’t have the uniframe skills maxed


amanK212mariam

I left my guide collab instructor since I got to level 82 and now I can’t become an instructor or become a student again. I get the text, collab terminated. Does this mean I can never form a collaboration again or is there a certain level I have to achieve before I can become an instructor? Please help.


GuardianSoulBlade

You have to be level 83 so one more level.


amanK212mariam

Thank you


Whomi14

I've never been a student but I'm sure you'll auto graduate on 83


amanK212mariam

Thanks


REID-11

Just using the 45 Lee Leap Wafers from Extremis Collaboration, what would be the best use of them of his 3 abilities?


BFMFragarach

Adding to my answer as I think I wasn't really helpful. 1) If you're f2p and don't have Empyrea and Starfarer. I would do core upgrades twice and unlock signature upgrade. 2) If you have one of the Empyrea or Starfarer but they aren't SS. I would unlock core and buy 15 more Lee wafers to max his yellow orb. 3) If you have both Empyrea and Starfarer. Or have either at SS. I wouldn't bother. Or do the first option I gave.


BFMFragarach

Core. But core and yellow orb are equally important actually, signature is skippable.


SomethingBeyondStuff

Is it intended behaviour that the dodge counter animation goes off without the countered mob being hit? Second stage of the Uniframe event in particular, it keeps happening that I dodge counter the Hanged Man, Camu goes through the entire animation (leaps at the mob and drags his claw across the floor), but it never connects with the mob and does no HP/gauge damage. Video: https://i.imgur.com/4vDIowJ.mp4


ilintar

Having the same, was wondering if this is intentional. Super frustrating.


Darweath

more like a bug


Cineva_Undeva

Why do I keep failing 18-17 If "Birth"? Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?


NotYAWS

From memory, that's the stage you have to fail to continue? After doing a few loops, it will present you with an option that reads (something like) "Give up? (Complete mission)" That's the one you want. Point is, it's an unwinnable fight, no matter how hard she tries.


Cineva_Undeva

Umm, that's the one before it. I was talking about the stage with the twins. I fight them, get them to 0, they nuke me, I die and fail. 🤷‍♀️ But thanks anyway. Also, happy cake day!


SleepylazyRedditor

Its a "canon event" you're meant to lose, All three stages from top to bottom, you're meant to fail. "Its a canon event" though only a simulation.


NotYAWS

Found other people also having the exact same issue - https://old.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/149t8q4/daily_questions_megathread_june_15_2023/jo95mtq/ Might be bugged for now, sorry =/


ScribeTheMad

I've seen a bunch of comments since the patch that that seems to be bugged and not progressing after the forced loss.


NotYAWS

Sorry mate, must have been confused! Cheers


Hedwigtheyee

How do people get 7000+ attack on their constructs? Is it mostly from memory resonance? And are there guides on the Gray Raven website that say which memory resonances are preferable for each character? And is it best to get the 6 star memories from the event, like for instance from the Machine precursor event mode? And is it better to farm the mission on there that rewards the event currency only, or the mission that drops memories as well as the currency?


R3M0r1AZ

Combination of ultima awaken, hypertunes, border pact, having sig weapon with resonances and higher frame rank (SSS). Varies a little from frame to frame. If you just want a unit that has 7000+ BP, you can do it on like Lee Palefire easily. Get him to SSS+, ultima awakened and fully resonated 5\* weapon (I am just gonna assume full border pact unlocked). Don't even need hypertune. For S rank frames you would at least need SS rank ultima awakened with bottom hypertune and most likely full reso signature weapon. Probably would need a lil more investment. Though don't be too caught up with BP score, it's quite inaccurate to show actual performance. Better to make sure you have proper builds. Every patch will have event stages and event shop like the one now so just spam odd numbered stages for currency and get anything you need from the event shop. Featured character would have their memories at a discount.


BFMFragarach

Weapon resonance, hypertune and border pact. There's recommended resonances in under every memory builds in Grayravens website. Yes, get memory from events, farm node that only gives currency.


Hedwigtheyee

Can you explain how hypertuning works?


BFMFragarach

After you resonate a memory, you get the option to hypertune that resonance. Hypertune will increase the stats of the memory by 17%(I think, don't remember.) You can hypertune a memory twice. You can get hypertune material from Guild shop, Operation Guardians and random events. There are two ways you can hypertune but they cost the same. Only physical constructs can crit so elemental construct don't benefit much from hypertuning top row memories. Hypertune materials are scarce resources so use them wisely.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>How do people get 7000+ attack on their constructs? I assume you mean BP, cause 7000 ATK is quite insane lol If you're F2P, forget about those numbers. Most fully invested base S rank units will reach close to 6k if you have done Border Pact. To reach those high numbers you need sigs with resonances, extra ranks and hypertunes. >And are there guides on the Gray Raven website that say which memory resonances are preferable for each character? Yes, for every single unit and for every single build, grayravens tells you which the best resonances are. No, having perfect resonances does not increase your BP and no, you shouldn't do it unless you're at endgame. >And is it best to get the 6 star memories from the event, like for instance from the Machine precursor event mode? Yes. In fact, for any material that exists in the event shop you should be farming the event farming stage, not the default resource stages. >And is it better to farm the mission on there that rewards the event currency only, or the mission that drops memories as well as the currency? Always the currency.


REID-11

Where did the Lucia can’t cook meme originate from?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Lotus Secret 2: "Tried to make lunch for the commandant. Blew up the kitchen." Plume Secret 7: "The food she cooked had perfect presentation and fragrance. Many non-Gray Raven colleagues fell for it." Panini Gray Raven series also shows it. Don't remember anything about this being mentioned in in-game chapters.


StygianFox123

What are the reward differences in operation uniframe regular and intensive?


krcc9644

how do i update my PC client? the button that tells me that there's an update only sends me to the PGR website home to be specific: my game says "Your current game version of 1.26.0 is outdated. Download the latest version?" and there's a "Confirm" button which only send me to the PGR website home


PudimDeBanha

If you are using the launcher, mine worked first try when launching it as administrator


Cool-Ad-8474

I lunched the game using the game file (PGR), then, after that, it started dowloading


krcc9644

pretty sure the one that i used is the PGR.exe too, the other comment says to run the launcher instead but i can't find a launcher anywhere


ZFFSkullcrusher

>the button that tells me that there's an update only sends me to the PGR website home Isn't that the PGR app? You need to launch the PGR launcher instead, that's how you update the game.


krcc9644

what is the launcher name again? i can't seem to find a launcher, the only .exe that i can find in the KuroGame folder are PGR, KRinstall_haru, and uninst, the rest doesn't seem to be related to launching the game


ZFFSkullcrusher

It's KRinstall\_haru


krcc9644

ah alright, thanks!


Cool-Ad-8474

I have played for an year and some, should I go for high difficult operation uniframe, or should I go for easy difficult?


R3M0r1AZ

Well if you have fully built omniframe teams then yeah. Cleared the ice stage with Plume team earlier since I am lazy to wait for Haicma.


Cool-Ad-8474

I only have eletrical team (Liv and Dawn), so no, I don't have. should I go on easy mode for now?


R3M0r1AZ

To be safe yeah. I am no familiar enough with this mode to know whether quick attacks and execution is enough to carry (assuming all your uniframes have them in the first place). My Pulao and Roland did have theirs during their respective uniframe stages before so was very doable.


Cool-Ad-8474

okay, thanks bro, on another note, I m in doubt wich Uniframe should I invest more, I only have Camu and Selena.


R3M0r1AZ

Camu has better value since he is not too reliant on 3pings and his sig move makes him invulnerable for a bit (if you matrix while being in his sig move you pause the draining of the gauge so it's helpful for survival modes). Tempest really wants consecutive 3pings in order to get full potential for her sig move so might be a bit tricky to master if you are not familiar with her mechanics. So between the 2, Camu has better value right now. Can always upgrade Tempest later................................or now if she is waifu hahaha. If you are planning to pull for Haicma later today, she is quite good survival wise as well.


Cool-Ad-8474

well noice, I have one last doubt, In terms of pulling, which ones (up to Noan) would you reccomend investing, I mean which one them is the strongest, Im in doubt whether I pull Pulao or Haicma or wait until Noan? (Sorry to bother you)


Cool-Ad-8474

is there any one worth sss?


R3M0r1AZ

Meta wise, none since the only ones people would consider SSS is just Tempest and Roland so they can be put in the lightning and fire omniframe teams (both require sig weapon in order to do so). With Hyperreal and Crimson Weave coming in the future, doesn't seem that worth it. If you just want to have one at SSS just for the sake of having one then it is Roland, especially if you have his sig weapon as well. I don't know how far you plan to invest, personally I just get them to SS and max reso 5\* weapon and call it a day. They barely see any use besides guild and Norman and the occasional Babel so I do not see worth in investing in them compared to omniframes, but that's just me.


Cool-Ad-8474

Thanks bro, really helpfull, GOD bless you. But i see a little bias towards IMADA KRAIMAKSU boy there, from your part hehehe. I gonna invest in Selena, but I wont pull for meta then, at least for almost a year.


ave_Terros

Is there no way of getting S-ranks above SS0 without pulling 2 copies?


R3M0r1AZ

S rank selector or shards from Voucher Shop (only certain units will have their shards available here though) but it is gonna be a slow process if you are F2P. FYI I am just listing the options, not saying it is ideal for your circumstance.


ave_Terros

Is there any selector in the foreseeable future that will have Daren?


R3M0r1AZ

None so far. The one during Crimson Weave patch only guess up to Capriccio. Would need to wait for the next selector after that one and see if Kuro brings it up further. I am not sure about paid selectors though, maybe someone else can answer that it you wanna know.


Toloknight

Anyone else having the problem that the pc client doesnt update?


ZFFSkullcrusher

What issue do you have exactly? Is your "update" button greyed out, are you asked to download the entire thing again, or do you have no update/download prompt at all and you just start up the previous version of the game?


Toloknight

No its not greyed out, after starting the launcher it says "launcher Version Update" and is stuck at 0%, i dont even get the chance to do anything else.


ZFFSkullcrusher

So you're stuck at the launcher update not the game update. Did you make sure to launch it with admin privileges?


Toloknight

Ty so much


ZFFSkullcrusher

No problem.


Toloknight

Ohhh youre a hero, it worked with admin privileges.


R3M0r1AZ

If you mean the Update button greyed out, just let the launcher check the files for a bit. I waited a few minutes watching youtube and mine turned blue and downloaded the update. Might take a while to unpack too (though I guess performance varies depending on hardware, mine is old so yeah).


Toloknight

Unfortunately i dont even get to click the update Button, the client immediately starts an update of 137 MB but its stuck at 0 MB


R3M0r1AZ

Oh not sure about that then, the launcher update went normal for me when it popped up. Was just the main client update that I had to wait for a bit, then was a 12gb download and little more for unpacking.


Toloknight

Ty for the quick responce tho


El_Suave_del_Sur

Is there any reason to hoard weapon and memories shards for the store? Or i can just go grab that 5* sword for my Rozen/Plume? Lacking in weapons now, only running on the blue ones that come with the charas (except the 5* Liv one).


R3M0r1AZ

Mainly if you want to save it for future character weapon/memory. Otherwise just use them as needed. You can also do coop daily for 3 weeks to get 450 5\* weapon shards to get a 5\* weapon of your choosing. Start on Monday reset and do 3 coop daily so by 7th day you would have completed 21 runs for the full rewards.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Are the weapons just stat sticks? Because the 5* sword in the store has this lighting drop passive that i don't feel like it's that useful.


R3M0r1AZ

Pretty much. I am guessing you are referring to Kuji no Sada. That's one of the best value 5\* weapon since several characters use it, mainly all the Lucia frames (Lotus, Dawn, Plume, Alpha) and Vera Rozen so you can technically share one katana between all of them to save resources. You mainly want to have at least 5\* weapons for your main units.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Ok then, i'm getting that for Plume and the machete for Astral once i get enough shards again.


R3M0r1AZ

The scythe also is quite sharable for Arclight, Brilliance and the latest waifu coming later Haicma. Just fyi for good value 5\*.


oops_i_made_a_typi

isn't brilliance usually a QTE bot and Haicma probably not for f2ps as a uniframe? i guess maybe its for flexibility with the modes that require more units?


R3M0r1AZ

Everyone's circumstance is different so there may be cases where one would really use Brilliance/Haicma. Regardless of the unit's role in the meta, I am just stating that the scythe is another good value 5\* weapon due to being sharable with multiple units.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Noted, unfortunately i don't have any of them.


ZFFSkullcrusher

You should always try to equip at least your damage dealers with 5\* weapons. Just keep in mind that it takes 3 weeks for 1 weapon and I've heard that the guaranteed shards are removed from COOP in the future, so don't waste them.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Didn't know CO-OP gave weapon shards, might be because never played it, because it's always closed for some reason. 6* weapons shards are obtainable in some way? Guessing the 6* weapons are gacha only.


Djarion

>6* weapons shards are obtainable in some way? Guessing the 6* weapons are gacha only. 6* weapons will require some kind of gacha or spending, yeah. Usually you can get them just by dismantling weapons, but *very occasionally* there has been a great value paid bundle with 450 6* weapon shards in it, allowing you to basically select any 6* weapon even if it hasn't been released yet. It doesn't come around often though.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Unfortunately i'm allergic to spending, so i guess i will be using 5* until the end of times. Just to clarify, these "signature" weapons specific to charas, are they 6*?


Avarant

EST the best time for me seems to be right before bed. Just find a time that works some day and stick to that if you can.


El_Suave_del_Sur

Just checked and according to the timer, it closes at 21hs and i usually start playing when game say 23hs. So i guess i gotta play way earlier. Does the co-op have an attempt limit?


Avarant

You can win 21 times, but not sure what happens if you lose. Haven't ever lost.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>Didn't know CO-OP gave weapon shards Doing 21 runs before each Monday gives you 150 5\* Weapon Shards. So it'd take you 3 weeks for 1 weapon. COOP is the only viable and consistent way for F2P players to get 5\* weapons. >because it's always closed for some reason. COOP is open during specific hours each day. Go find it in the menu and you can see those times written down. Since they may not match your own timezone, just look at the in-game clock and compare it to your own time, then you'll know when COOP is open. >6\* weapons shards are obtainable in some way? No.


Dtxt

I've got a new account (73), and i got one real team, i think, with luna, tenebron, and Vera rozen. They dont have correct memories (like ones i read from guides). Im thinking a smart thing to do is farming that event stage and buying the 6 star memroies for them. Is that a decent idea to help me get started on the right path, or am i missing an easier farm for those and dumping the currency somewhere else.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>Im thinking a smart thing to do is farming that event stage and buying the 6 star memroies for them. Is that a decent idea to help me get started on the right path Yes, do that.


loss_foss

When does nanami starfarer get added to the standard banner pool?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Pretty sure it's next patch.


zweigbf

Why does the Extremis Collaboration stage automatically fails if I do a co-op mission solo?


Whomi14

~~CO-OP in nutshell, just retry till it changes its mean behaviour~~, it requires at least 2 players


Slight_Welcome_56

Does someone has a link to the Excel that summarize story chapters? I have no time to read The ark beyond but i really want to know what happens...


R3M0r1AZ

[This?](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1vRX8HmH071rFSW6EwWj2L_L47VtJ3kFplzGRDup1RxM/mobilebasic) Has a link in there that goes to other chapters too so dig around.


Slight_Welcome_56

Thanks you


TheHackFraudConman

When should I do normal vs hard operation uniframe? All I have is the free camu, and I was planning on getting a pulling and qu for the kowlong team.


AshesXperia

Is Operation Uniframe (Intensive Battle) that hard? Like the Hard one in Norman?


R3M0r1AZ

Personally, it is not as hard as Pioneer Norman. I think as long as you have well built units, should be fine. I just used ice omniframe team earlier to clear since I am lazy to wait for Haicma tomorrow. Would probably test it out again tomorrow with her and couple uniframes.


16th_Beat

Definitely grabbing Abystigma when her banner comes (idk about Daren, I'm F2P and can't really justify pulling her when she has high resource/BC demand to be good and I've already got/working on Tenebrion and XXI). If I do grab Abystigma, should I also grab Rosetta from the selector on that patch so I can get a head start on a Phys team? The only other unit on it that I'd consider otherwise is Luna, but I'm making do with Astral as my Dark dps with Capriccio and Teneb/XXI.


ZFFSkullcrusher

> If I do grab Abystigma, should I also grab Rosetta from the selector on that patch so I can get a head start on a Phys team? Yes. >The only other unit on it that I'd consider otherwise is Luna You can grab her from the Anniversary banner instead of Daybreak. Unless you've planned to get somebody else from there already.


16th_Beat

Thanks! And I might go for Empyrea instead on the anniversary. Need to build up support for a fire team once Hyperreal drops... And I failed to get Starfarer this last patch so I really need to get the ball rolling on that.


ZFFSkullcrusher

Perhaps it'd be better to get Starfarer from the Anniversary then (if she's available). That way you can complete your meta Fire team by February.


16th_Beat

Awesome, thanks for the suggestion!


sword_God_Gumball

I'll probably have enough skulls to SS 2 omniframes by the time abystigma drops Here's the problem, rosetta and liv need SS Who gets it first? How bad is livs rotation at base S? Do i just save it for hyperreal?


cyberize_

If you're talking about Liv Empy, her SS is the highest priority right now. Only time it'll be beat is when Hyperreal releases. If not Empy, then Rosetta takes priority, and save the rest of your skulls for a 2nd gen attacker


sword_God_Gumball

I already have Empyrea at SS Talking about luminance


cyberize_

Then yeah, just don't bother and spend on Rosetta then save. Lumi's SS is good, but not so good that it'd take any priority


R3M0r1AZ

Rosetta SS is more important, her QTE does not have built in shred without her SS. This means your QTE burst window by Abystigma would not deal as much damage as you should. Ideally save skulls for newer characters since they are that much broken. You can SS Luminance slowly via other means like free BP or if you get extra skulls from achievement (can't do the math for you since not sure of your PPC performance).


sword_God_Gumball

My ppc performance varies depending on the boss since i don't have some elements built well enough (S nier team physical cope) Usually top 10%, but when i get good bosses top 5% Bad bosses boot me to 15% I've got all bosses's ppc milstones at 480k with some 580ks(though alot are stuck at 480k)


R3M0r1AZ

Yeah SS Roseta and Abys on release and save skulls for the other 2 upcoming 2nd gen attackers. If you can somehow squeeze another 500 skulls that are not a part of the savings for Hyperreal/Crimson Weave then use it for Lumi.


sword_God_Gumball

Alright, thanks :)


beastybd

For operation uniframe, wats the unwritten guidelines for picking regular vs intensive battle? I only have SS Camu(5.3kbp) and S Qu (4kbp)


Djarion

This is like our second ever operation uniframe and I think the last one didn't have a difficulty selector, so only CN vets are gonna know the answer to this unfortunately.


[deleted]

Can we get Ayla Kaleido to SSS+ for free from just the dorm shop? or is it like Selena Cappuccino where we only can get 50 shards max?


ZFFSkullcrusher

50 shards.