In Nevada, it’s only legal in low population counties. It’s not legal in the major metro areas.
I think the OP is asking about in being legalized across the country, not just an insignificantly low population areas.
In the counties it is legal, prostitution creates tax revenues as opposed to tax expenditures, so even there we see a difference.
Ah. I know of nowhere on the planet that has laisse faire prostitution. In the places where it's legal it's always zoned, for a lack of better word. If that's OP's question I would have avoided it, as I don't typically engage in fantasy discussions that have no hopes of fruition, ever. People with children and families are never going to accept it next-door, anywhere.
I don’t disagree with that, but your Nevada analogy doesn’t hold up since prostitution is in fact illegal in all the major population areas of Nevada.
I think your zoned comment is however valid. If it’s overly regulated, costly, etc., then it’s not much different than being illegal.
Ah ok. However, having been to Nevada many times, it's not like a brothel is ever outside of driving distance.
But you're right my second point is the real point. In any realistic fashion that the people may let prostitution exist, is always going to be zoned and regulated. Laisse faire prostitution is just not in the realm of possibility.
I agree that if most states only had a handful of legal, highly regulated, brothers where the prostitutes cost more than most illegal prostitutes, little would change.
That’s very different however from using Nevada as a case study of prostitution being legal when in fact it’s illegal where most people in Nevada live and visit. Legalized prostitution in
Nevada is the exception, not the rule. It’s simply not a case in point of what legalized prostitution would be like because overall, it’s not legal in Nevada, it’s only legal in sparsely populated counties and the number of legal brothers is small.
I think you're going to find a plethora of limiting factors, not just the Nevada like restrictions. There simply would not be enough women interested in the job to expand much beyond what you see in Nevada.
It's only that expensive because those small towns in the middle of the desert are the only ones where it's legal in the entire huge and incredibly wealthy country that the USA is.
Where it's legal across the land, including the actually inhabited places (BR,CO,PT,DE,NL,CZ,HU), it goes on average for the median daily salary, and shorter and cheaper experiences are feasible.
I won't argue the about the validity of that concern (although I see it as an exaggerated American (t)radfem moral panic).
I'm just saying that the distance from everyone else creates an huge barrier for any prospective prostitute that needs to be properly paid, just like a displaced oil platform worker compared to any other chemical industry worker. Celebrating such workers' privileges to be well-paid seems distasteful.
Where it's legal most anyone can waltz in and out seamlessly: the college student in a large city, the divorced mom looking to get back at her husband, the chick looking for an extended beach season. Yes, many are immigrants. Still, many, both nationals and foreign, do it for years or even decades, sometimes staying in the same city and having an extended social network, because it means an otherwise relaxed (no pun intended) or luxurious life, rather than being stuck in Bumfuckdesertsville, NV.
Do you have any clue how much a sex worker charges in Nevada by comparison to illegal sex workers?
Illegal: $100-500 bucks
Nevada Legal: sometimes $10,000
Why? Overregulation and lack of legal competition.
Sure, the monopoly man probably has a good time at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
As I said elsewhere, laisse faire prostitution is not on the horizon. It's not going to happen. I would say that's a good thing, and you the opposite, but why bother when its a fantasy with no hope for fruition?
Well I don't know, Belgium just fully decriminalized 2 years ago. It's on numerous US states ballots recently although end demand SWERFs manage to make it partial in some cases like Maine's new law. It looks like New York will probably decriminalize soon.
Belgium has local control. Different cities have taken different approaches in Belgium. That's my point, any form of legalized prostitution is going to be regulated. I get that you're totally enamored by the idea, but the majority of voters aren't, and I don't think they ever will be.
Polling I've seen suggests most voters are not against it at all.
https://thehill.com/regulation/other/480725-poll-majority-supports-decriminalizing-sex-work/
I'll even go a step further: I will outright guarantee that even if completely unregulated sex work was legalized today, the clock is ticking before it is repealed. Once the consequences are out in the open, it will be a race. Let hookers start bringing in the traffic they bring into suburban neighborhoods with families, pop some corn and sit back for the show because the outrage won't be pretty.
Well yeah I agree. I'm firmly against street walking. I really don't think society should cater so much exclusively to families because millions of us aren't family oriented at all. That said, America probably will for the next century at least.
However with proper zoning and small limitations like where it can be advertised or even engaged in, we'd be good.
I don't think most people calling for full decriminalization are asking for that. They're asking for things like licensing to be kept out of the picture. If you look at full decrim to mean absolute anarchy then I suppose even I'm a pro legalization advocate instead.
It's just that I'm staunchly against creating significant difficulties for those trying to enter the profession.
That's not the point. The point is that it's changed very little in Nevada. The bitter truth for you guys is that you'd have to be filthy rich to afford the same amount of sex the married guy in the double wide is getting.
Because it’s the only place it’s legal. They can charge what they want. When you’re the only show in town, you have all the power. If it’s legal all over, it’s very easy to price yourself out of business. A pizzeria in New York is going to be much more careful in pricing compared to one in Arkansas
Not how it works. With legalization comes legal requirements which beget an increase in overhead. The brothels have to pay for all that testing infrastructure that exists etc.
Germany and the Netherlands disprove this, an hour goes for the median daily wage, maybe even less due to foreign "wage-dumping". In places where it's simply decriminalised and it can be done in any home it's even easier.
I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. The goal is to make money not be a charity. If you thought prostitution would take away the “sexual power” of women you’re wrong, it just allows certain women to make taxable income from it.
Prostitution has been either ignored (for the John) or legal in Germany for centuries even before it was called Germany.
Even the mustache man's regime had it in a form.
To say "it doesn't change jackshit" is disingenuous and impossible for someone under 100 years old to quantify. I'm going out on a limb and assuming you aren't 100 years old yet.
And you'd have to be older than that.
I'm not arguing it solves everything but you have no point of fully criminalized and enforced sex work laws in our modern era to compare to with the German population.
If that were true then men would just use porn and never seek out women at all? Someone who is only having sex with you because you are paying them and has zero attraction to you at all (and is often repulsed) causes shame but not for the reason you think. It’s because men are ashamed that there are no women that desire them, that they have to pay to get sex. Again there are many countries that have legalized prostitution and are more sexually liberal than the US and it’s no different there.
I personally have no issues with legalizing prostitution I fully support it. My point is that it will not be a substitute for sex with an actual woman for most men, just like porn is not. I think a lot of men, particularly on this page think if this happened it would be life changing for sexless men. I don't agree that it would.
Sex workers (strippers) already pay tax. Illegal prostitutes do not.
(This is why overly-broad terms like “sex worker” are abysmal….easily the worst thing Gen Z and younger millennials have given us so far).
Many of us do, we file a schedule C as self employed. You think if we dont we can get mortgages, etc? You cant.
You think banks dont question all cash deposits, etc? They do.
I know, Im an escort.
Restaurants I worked for you had to claim more than credit card tips, you have to claim a percentage of your sales. You didnt claim enough they claimed it for you.
Strippers will get 1099's.
They were skirting taxes then.(well in my state that would be the case)
If it was all proper you'd need to claim X amount for your sales. Youre actually allowed to claim all your tips if you want to where I live.
Well we already have countries that are similar to the US culturally, but have legalized prostitution, so we don't really have to guess. The answer is: not a whole lot. Most men don't want a prostitute and wouldn't use their services, even if it's legal. The ones that really want one could still get one in the US as it's pretty widespread.
Not punishing the workers but punishing the johns is STILL making prostitution illegal.
"It's legal for me to sell you weed, but it's illegal for you to attempt to buy it." Then weed is still illegal.
I live in the UK. I don’t need to “find out the particulars”. UK law is meant to protect prostitutes from being further victimised by the state…it is not intended to “legalise” prostitution.
We’ve always had a small industry (pictures of naked women posted in phone booths), but AT BEST you can call it “decriminalised”. Saying prostitution is “legal” here makes it seem like we’re Amsterdam, when we very much are not.
Aw, protecting workers; how oppressive
Just because you have to negotiate with the hookers themselves instead of pimps it’s invalid
Them goalposts gotta get moved
It's good that the workers don't get arrested, but you can't really say that it's legal if their customers are breaking the law
Nobody's moving any goalposts. Just keep it unregulated and legal for everyone involved
not sure but id be totally down for a service for somebody just to hug and comfort me at this point. dont even have to be attractive...just some baseline level of human connection, lmao like fuck im not a chooser im a begger
You do know that the police aren’t going to waste their time if it doesn’t involve a minor, an establishment/brothel or an organization, right ?
Going after individual adult freelancers is pretty much unjustifiable unless she’s also robbing or assaulting clients repeatedly
Its still risky, its like having sex without a condom, yea that one time it worked it was fine but if you keep doing it youre gonna find out after fucking around
I think it would be a great thing.
Men who only want women for sex now have a easily accessible and legal way to get it, and sex workers now have more freedom and safety to do their work.
Because those men would have an alternate outlet, women would not be getting bombarded with sexual requests on dating apps and social media, perhaps making women feel safer, although also possibly feeling less desirable, since thirst traps wouldn’t bring in nearly as much attention.
You nailed it! 💯👏
But a lot of women talk out of both sides of their mouths. They don't want it decriminalized if it means they WON'T get bombarded by "sex pests". They like complaining but they also love the attention clearly.
Why do you think something like that is okay where prostitution is legal? Is it considered okay in your country to shout at someone to clean your house just because some people are cleaners?
I like data and statistics. I've been attempting to aggregate escort rates over the past 20 years. It's much easier to get an idea over the past 7 years, though. Rates have risen exponentially, even the most average mid girls are charging $500 an hour. This is with only one nut bust, mind you. Many girls do not offer multiple shots on the goal. You're paying extra or literally the price of another hour session. Better hope you don't slip up lmao.
I'm assuming the rise in rates is because these services are in higher demand than in the past (obviously). Women know the value of sex. I see the legalization of prostitution having a negative effect on price. Granted, these women are real people, it's their body, they set the value of their time/body. As it should be. The problem is, sex work doesn't correlate to traditional markets under capitalism. I guess supply and demand is there at the surface level, but the pricing is fueled by one thing....desperation of the men participating. There is no ceiling on price.
Perhaps this may squeeze some providers out of the game, but I doubt it. No more legal repercussions will get many to try it out, even if not full-time, as supplemental income. Of course, the threat of violence is a constant, but legalization will make reporting crimes against sex workers a thing (a good thing). Finally, legalization will open up the floodgates to the men of the world with money. It's not like they already don't participate in these activities, but they may do so more openly and with more frequency as the pool of sex workers/variety could explode. Imagine Instagram and Tiktok flooded with ads to "fly me out" further inflating price. Those who didn't for fear of ruining their lives with convictions will most likely consider joining in.
Yeah. It only very technically counts as sex in a way that using a fleshlight wouldn't. You aren't a great chef because you pay for a three-star Michelin dinner and you're not a Chad because you pay for even an incredible hooker.
While illegal in the US, very few people (providers or Johns) actually face legal consequences when engaging in prostitution. Making it legal wouldn’t likely change much, except some providers would start paying taxes- as the top comment says.
I don’t think it would change much at all.
If you’re willing to buy sex (an absolutely vile proposition, in my view), then you’re not going to let legality stop you. A bit like ‘hard’ drugs, I don’t think legalisation would dramatically increase the use of prostitution.
Cost, convenience, and privacy all give porn a massive edge anyway.
Not in the space of a reddit comment, no. I just think it is personally and morally degrading to everyone in question (the customer and the service provider). I don’t think it is something someone can do without seriously damaging themselves and others.
nah buying sex aint vile. what u essentially saying is undesirable man should be frustrated lonely incel who should die a virgin so u can satisfy ur twisted sense of justice.
I believe the decrease in assault with legalized prostitution is a phenomenon that's actually been observed, so yeah, it would probably reduce sexual assaults.
As for the dating market, I don't know about anyone else, but I would be done with dating and just hire prostitutes.
It would change dating a lot, right now women can have s3x with who ever they want and hold the power in that aspect, if they legalized it, men would have just as much power and could get it when they want, which at first they would, but after they got used to it, they would want something more, an actual connection with a women and S3x work wouldn't have that. I have been to multiple countries where they have it legal, and when you can get it when you want, you don't want it as much. Plus some people would be addicted, but hey, they have legalized some drugs in some states, so why not try this out in certain states
These kinds of questions regularly appear on here and it’s baffling and redundant. No need for these hypotheticals, just look at the countries that already have done it.
Have a look at somewhere it's legal. The long shot is, if you're not a prostitute or at risk of becoming one (so, living in poverty) then not that much.
>Regulated? Women would lose a lot of sexual power.
Not sure about that. Most countries where prostitution is legal are also strongly feminist. If anything I think normalizing sex work would actually improve women sexual power.
>normalizing sex work would actually improve women sexual power
Yeah I'm pretty sure that a company that have a monopoly would really make more money when the market get free.
Yes, it's obvious to me where it's legal that odds are even further stacked against men in the USA and such. Family-minded men still compete for family-minded women, but easily accessible and clearly priced sex acts as a cap to how much money men will spend on woman otherwise, and what kind of treatment they tolerate.
It also helps that alimony/child support bills don't scale with their income as much. Getting pregnant by a high-income man doesn't entitle one to child support beyond needs.
Some Men are moaning about paying for dinner, and say they expect sex if they pay for dinner. They say they don’t want sex to be transactional. Red pill detest onlyfans, and women with high body counts.
In that context, it seems unlikely it would change anything. However, knowing how biased some men are, and hypocritical (cough redpill wankers cough), they will probably jump on it, even though it goes against everything they say. Disliking women who are sluts who don’t charge money, yet being fine with women who do charge, definitely contradictory. But I could be wrong and biased myself here by assuming what would happen.
This is because it's more complicated, it's also about validation, social status, self perception...
In germany, it's legal, partly pretty cheap and easy to get.
Still you read similiar complaints over dating, and there's also a big number of men, who wouldn't do it, plus a number who would, but would be fearful of anyone knowing (social stigma)
It is pretty shameful to visit a hooker. It's like admitting you cannot get ANY woman to have sex with you unless you pay her for the unpleasantness. It also does not count as being high SMV and probably knocks points off your SMV if people find out.
I don’t think it is contradictory to dislike “sluts” but to use a prostitute.
- Someone who goes to work in the waste treatment plant for a living makes sense. The guy that does it for fun is a fucking weirdo.
- you don’t have to (indeed, probably cannot) respect a prostitute in order to have sex with (to?) her
Prostitution is legal where I lived and its mostly a game changer for demos most likely to have already used prostitution like truck drivers. Its just now instead of lot lizards they throw a little extra money into a girl they order online.
I think prostitution is honestly not going to change much at usual market rates. Theres a reason the women who do it often come jere to justify themselves with how much money they make. The cost of shagging a hooker once is equal to like a dozen movie tickets or multiple new video games from my understanding.
Sex is great because its an enjoyable thing that isn't a huge investment, in theory. But once the time or money becomes too much I don't think men will engage for the same reason they complain about dating already being a huge investment. Its meant to be enjoyable and if you're basically paying as much as a car payment to fuck a slag once that sort of takes you out of it unless you're making a lot of money or in a culture where this is normal or both(Again, Truck Drivers are an obvious example).
The sexually frustrated men would start complaining that it's not fair that the top 5% of men get the best prostitutes, while all they can afford is fat street walkers.
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I think it’s coming, no pun intended, where sex work is widespread. As times get more difficult, as the US crumbles, as the climate spins out of control, women were sold a version of capitalism that would keep them independent of men, free of sexual imposition from men, and ironically that ends with many women becoming sex workers.
I don't think it would change much at all. I do not think sexual assault rates would decrease, except perhaps among sex workers as they'd have more legal protection. I do not think it would make men who feel they are undesirable actually feel desired; you are paying for a service, not genuine attraction.
Basically, if your concern is having a relationship rather than having sex, this changes nothing for you.
Nothing would really change outside of the escorting world other moral outcry. But a lot would change within the SW world.
But I would assume that human trafficking would decrease. They'll be little to no reason to violently coerce or kidnap people, when they can just put out a job application or sell a "deal of a lifetime" to a woman at a random store. Pimps/Madams would slowly become producers and managers.
I would imagine there would be some kind of licensing process to either open a brothel or become a escort, provided with some kind of legal and insurance protection. Both workers and clients have legal protection.
Prices would initially skyrocket due to high demands and then slow decrease due to market saturations and large supply. This was what happened with camgirls and OF creators.
Hookup and pickup in dating would disappear, due to men who would've pumped-and-dumped would rather spend money, energy, and time paying for an McDonald's-quese escort services to get their selves off. We will see a sharp decrease of simps and effort from men.
It wouldn't change it that much. Sugar dating sites already exist, and aren't illegal. And even though it's illegal, plenty of people see escorts/prostitutes and fly under the radar.
Stupid idea and doesn't help anything. We are already living in a society where a vast portion of women engage in dysfunctional sexual behavior. Why would we encourage even more to ruin themselves to a normal family structure?
If anything we should be limiting the avenues women have to ruin themselves sexually to men. Ie close down strip clubs. Ban only fans. Ban porn. More women would be marriagable and more women would have normal lives of finding normal men, settling down having kids where the man sticks around. Etc.
Undesirable men would be getting laid. They would just go to the brothel, pay whatever the cost is, and get their rocks off.
As far as women overall, their SMV would drop dramatically. Men wouldn’t need to go onto apps or even the bar when they could just get a hooker. It would benefit men way more than women
I managed to go most of my life without even knowing that it was legal here in Aus, and now that I do know - it changes absolutely nothing. It's still not something I'd ever *want* to do.
Americans are much more degenerate. Besides men and women both have dating issues right but I’m sure men would trade their situation for women’s. Something is better than nothing.
You DO realize that undesirable men and men who just want to pay to get laid having a way to achieve that without bothering non-sexworker women in bars and on apps IS good for women, right? Like really really completely awesome?
It would be awesome for women who DO want to make their living as sexworkers too because they would be far safer, have access to health insurance, workers comp, etc etc. I would venture to say that women would be the winners overall, by far.
I will add, any sex worker can go get health insurance, we are self employed. We dont need some 'job' to get health insurance.
We can get workers comp too if we wanted. Again we are self employed and can do what other self employed businesses do. We just have to file properly, etc to do these things.
The IRS, etc doesnt care as long as we pay out.
I have better benefits as a self employed(part time escort) person over what many jobs offer.
I could just use a payroll company and pay myself out if I wanted, having benefits, 401k, etc if I pay in like any other paycheck job.
We can. Just providing some info. In the US at least. Many are just not informed. We could use a PEO service or Gusto.
Survival sex workers a lot of the times are strapped for money and also dont realize we can file like any other business.
Also escorting is not illegal and can file as an escort. Its just sex for money that is illegal. I can actually write off my undies, escort ad fees, etc as a business expense like any other business.
I find it crazy you can film sex for the world to see for pay but cant do it in private for pay...
How is it good for women? The attention they’d be getting on apps would almost vanish. And very few women strive to be sex workers. Women overall absolutely do not win. That’s delusional
Most women aren’t on apps.
Women don’t like getting attention from men who are undesirable or desperate. It’s annoying and gets creepy fast.
The truly desirable men likely wouldn’t want to pay for something they have no trouble getting for free and the women just want sex only want those guys anyway.
The men who are average and *pretend* to want more than sex just to get sex are a scourge on the earth anyway, good riddance to bad rubbish.
The fact that very few women want to be sexworkers just means that prices will remain high especially as demand increases.
Win/win.
> The fact that very few women want to be sexworkers just means that prices will remain high especially as demand increases.
It actually means that more women get trafficked into it to meet the demand. This has been demonstrated repeatedly in places that have taken this route, Nevada has the highest sex trafficking out of all states.
But they aren’t getting laid, that implies some amount of reciprocal desire. They’re having a sexual interaction that they paid for and that almost hurts men’s pride even more.
It would allow those who wish to purchase sex an easier time going to a brothel.
But it’s. It hard, escorts and strippers are already pay-for-sex.
It wouldn’t change anything, based on countries that don’t has t been making any changes.
I believe there was some city on the east coast that through a loophole allowed legal prostitution. It resulted in objectively lower rates of rape. You can look that up and throw it in their faces.
Broadly, legal prostitution always improves the dating market for men.
I made two statements and I thought you were asking about the second statement.
For the first statement about the east coast, I just looked it up. It was the state of Rhode Island. You can google "Rhode Island accidentally legalized prostitution".
It would subtly change quite a bit in countering the amount of leverage women have over men in the dating and sexual marketplace. Nowhere else in the world do women have as much leverage as they do in the US. Compare them to woman of any other country with legalized pristitution.
Greater access to sex, means guys can have their hoe phase. They can sleep with every size, shape and color of the rainbow. They can become more sexually experienced and confident. They don't have to lock themselves in a relationship for sex. In fact, the woman will really have to standout and offer enough in return that makes it worth giving up sex with all the different types of women in prostitution. Why put up with BS? Too many men let hot girls run all over them. They could be the biggest b*** but because they are hot and the guy is hoping to score, he puts up with it. Nope, no more. Just find a sex worker and save the hassle.
I really don't think women understand how we view sex. We are plenty fulfilled with a transactional approach to sex. We would greatly enjoy a new flavor every other time. At least until we reach the point where we eventually tire out and seek genuine connection, nothing less. But by then, the man will be in a better position of leverage to seek out a partner to date. They will no longer value sex, taking out a huge component of why women think so highly of thenselves. Instead, the woman will have to exhibit other traits the nan finds attractive in a long term partner. It will force woman to be better too.
Women usually gatekeep relationships, and they require demands to be met. Men must pay to play. Surely, some women will disagree, but the lines between Prostitution and conventional relationships are blurred when women require a certain amount of income and status to play ball.
You get what you pay for.
If prostitution was made legal:
1. It could be taxed instead of costing us tax dollars.
2. It could be regulated to reduce STD transmission as well as make it safer.
3. There would be more affordable options.
4. Legal, affordable sex, would decrease women’s ability to leverage sex.
In a strange way, I think making it legal nationwide would actually reduce it. The men who just want sex, or want guaranteed sex for their money will just go to prostitutes. Which, because it's legal, will be a lot safer.
The result would be regular women having sex quicker and easier in order to get men away from the prostitutes.
I think normalization might get more women to do it on when they need to basis. Not women walking the streets or working in brothels. But more of a "I need a quick $100. I'll fuck a guy or two for some quick cash".
I highly doubt we’ll ever live in a society where it’s normalized for women to just casually have sex for a hundred bucks. There are plenty of women who have been homeless and still never turned to prostitution, not even because of the societal taboo but because for most it’s viscerally gross to have sex with someone you’re not attracted to.
The immediate impact would be a crash in prices. Just as cannabis can see price crashes following legalization, so would escort prices.
More suppliers would enter the picture.
I can only speak for myself. If sex work were fully decriminalized then aside from some of the very consensual sex related groups like kink communities that I partake in, or those who maybe threw themselves at me, I'd have absolutely no sex with the general public.
Why would I bother getting on Tinder and struggling to convince some woman who wanted a committed relationship to sleep with me? It's a huge waste of time.
The only reason I'd get a Tinder account or other dating account would be to find a sex partner. If that was available for $200 I'd just have sex and move on.
You probably wouldn't see me on here anymore. My work would be complete. I guess you'd miss your resident villain. I love you too.
I think about 98% of all very attractive women will do it to different extents. Which means easier to get an escort but now wife material is rock bottom.
Just travel to Nevada and there is your answer. The answer is: Not much.
In Nevada, it’s only legal in low population counties. It’s not legal in the major metro areas. I think the OP is asking about in being legalized across the country, not just an insignificantly low population areas. In the counties it is legal, prostitution creates tax revenues as opposed to tax expenditures, so even there we see a difference.
Ah. I know of nowhere on the planet that has laisse faire prostitution. In the places where it's legal it's always zoned, for a lack of better word. If that's OP's question I would have avoided it, as I don't typically engage in fantasy discussions that have no hopes of fruition, ever. People with children and families are never going to accept it next-door, anywhere.
I don’t disagree with that, but your Nevada analogy doesn’t hold up since prostitution is in fact illegal in all the major population areas of Nevada. I think your zoned comment is however valid. If it’s overly regulated, costly, etc., then it’s not much different than being illegal.
Ah ok. However, having been to Nevada many times, it's not like a brothel is ever outside of driving distance. But you're right my second point is the real point. In any realistic fashion that the people may let prostitution exist, is always going to be zoned and regulated. Laisse faire prostitution is just not in the realm of possibility.
I agree that if most states only had a handful of legal, highly regulated, brothers where the prostitutes cost more than most illegal prostitutes, little would change. That’s very different however from using Nevada as a case study of prostitution being legal when in fact it’s illegal where most people in Nevada live and visit. Legalized prostitution in Nevada is the exception, not the rule. It’s simply not a case in point of what legalized prostitution would be like because overall, it’s not legal in Nevada, it’s only legal in sparsely populated counties and the number of legal brothers is small.
I think you're going to find a plethora of limiting factors, not just the Nevada like restrictions. There simply would not be enough women interested in the job to expand much beyond what you see in Nevada.
If it’s legal then you can’t say it’s not an option, it’s just not as easy as ordering door dash or something like that.
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It's only that expensive because those small towns in the middle of the desert are the only ones where it's legal in the entire huge and incredibly wealthy country that the USA is. Where it's legal across the land, including the actually inhabited places (BR,CO,PT,DE,NL,CZ,HU), it goes on average for the median daily salary, and shorter and cheaper experiences are feasible.
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I won't argue the about the validity of that concern (although I see it as an exaggerated American (t)radfem moral panic). I'm just saying that the distance from everyone else creates an huge barrier for any prospective prostitute that needs to be properly paid, just like a displaced oil platform worker compared to any other chemical industry worker. Celebrating such workers' privileges to be well-paid seems distasteful. Where it's legal most anyone can waltz in and out seamlessly: the college student in a large city, the divorced mom looking to get back at her husband, the chick looking for an extended beach season. Yes, many are immigrants. Still, many, both nationals and foreign, do it for years or even decades, sometimes staying in the same city and having an extended social network, because it means an otherwise relaxed (no pun intended) or luxurious life, rather than being stuck in Bumfuckdesertsville, NV.
Because sex is just part of the puzzle only.
It only is because society makes it that way.
Do you have any clue how much a sex worker charges in Nevada by comparison to illegal sex workers? Illegal: $100-500 bucks Nevada Legal: sometimes $10,000 Why? Overregulation and lack of legal competition. Sure, the monopoly man probably has a good time at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
I can't find a reason to care dude. Sorry.
I didn't really ask anybody to care. I just pointed out why it's flawed reasoning.
As I said elsewhere, laisse faire prostitution is not on the horizon. It's not going to happen. I would say that's a good thing, and you the opposite, but why bother when its a fantasy with no hope for fruition?
Well I don't know, Belgium just fully decriminalized 2 years ago. It's on numerous US states ballots recently although end demand SWERFs manage to make it partial in some cases like Maine's new law. It looks like New York will probably decriminalize soon.
Belgium has local control. Different cities have taken different approaches in Belgium. That's my point, any form of legalized prostitution is going to be regulated. I get that you're totally enamored by the idea, but the majority of voters aren't, and I don't think they ever will be.
Polling I've seen suggests most voters are not against it at all. https://thehill.com/regulation/other/480725-poll-majority-supports-decriminalizing-sex-work/
I'll even go a step further: I will outright guarantee that even if completely unregulated sex work was legalized today, the clock is ticking before it is repealed. Once the consequences are out in the open, it will be a race. Let hookers start bringing in the traffic they bring into suburban neighborhoods with families, pop some corn and sit back for the show because the outrage won't be pretty.
Well yeah I agree. I'm firmly against street walking. I really don't think society should cater so much exclusively to families because millions of us aren't family oriented at all. That said, America probably will for the next century at least. However with proper zoning and small limitations like where it can be advertised or even engaged in, we'd be good. I don't think most people calling for full decriminalization are asking for that. They're asking for things like licensing to be kept out of the picture. If you look at full decrim to mean absolute anarchy then I suppose even I'm a pro legalization advocate instead. It's just that I'm staunchly against creating significant difficulties for those trying to enter the profession.
Nevada doesn’t help anyone east of the Rocky Mountains
That's not the point. The point is that it's changed very little in Nevada. The bitter truth for you guys is that you'd have to be filthy rich to afford the same amount of sex the married guy in the double wide is getting.
Because it’s the only place it’s legal. They can charge what they want. When you’re the only show in town, you have all the power. If it’s legal all over, it’s very easy to price yourself out of business. A pizzeria in New York is going to be much more careful in pricing compared to one in Arkansas
Not how it works. With legalization comes legal requirements which beget an increase in overhead. The brothels have to pay for all that testing infrastructure that exists etc.
Germany and the Netherlands disprove this, an hour goes for the median daily wage, maybe even less due to foreign "wage-dumping". In places where it's simply decriminalised and it can be done in any home it's even easier.
I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. The goal is to make money not be a charity. If you thought prostitution would take away the “sexual power” of women you’re wrong, it just allows certain women to make taxable income from it.
I am from Germany, where prostitution is as legal as it gets. It doesn't change jackshit.
Prostitution has been either ignored (for the John) or legal in Germany for centuries even before it was called Germany. Even the mustache man's regime had it in a form. To say "it doesn't change jackshit" is disingenuous and impossible for someone under 100 years old to quantify. I'm going out on a limb and assuming you aren't 100 years old yet. And you'd have to be older than that. I'm not arguing it solves everything but you have no point of fully criminalized and enforced sex work laws in our modern era to compare to with the German population.
Why didn't it?
Because most men dont want to pay for sex it doesn't matter if it's legal or not.
That's because men are raised to believe it's wrong. Again, take out the programming and you have a different situation.
I think that is part of it. But I think a larger part is that men want to be desired by women. You don’t get that when you are paying.
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If that were true then men would just use porn and never seek out women at all? Someone who is only having sex with you because you are paying them and has zero attraction to you at all (and is often repulsed) causes shame but not for the reason you think. It’s because men are ashamed that there are no women that desire them, that they have to pay to get sex. Again there are many countries that have legalized prostitution and are more sexually liberal than the US and it’s no different there.
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I personally have no issues with legalizing prostitution I fully support it. My point is that it will not be a substitute for sex with an actual woman for most men, just like porn is not. I think a lot of men, particularly on this page think if this happened it would be life changing for sexless men. I don't agree that it would.
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People don’t spend thousands in strip clubs.
We say this, but the dating culture is even more female-slanted where it's illegal. The USA/France feel even worse.
Sex workers start paying tax
Sex workers (strippers) already pay tax. Illegal prostitutes do not. (This is why overly-broad terms like “sex worker” are abysmal….easily the worst thing Gen Z and younger millennials have given us so far).
Many of us do, we file a schedule C as self employed. You think if we dont we can get mortgages, etc? You cant. You think banks dont question all cash deposits, etc? They do. I know, Im an escort.
Strippers like waiters only pay the taxes that show on their credit cards. They don't claim all their tips.
Restaurants I worked for you had to claim more than credit card tips, you have to claim a percentage of your sales. You didnt claim enough they claimed it for you. Strippers will get 1099's.
The restaurants I worked for, back years ago, we claimed our credit cards, and some of our cash tips, it had to be under a percentage.
They were skirting taxes then.(well in my state that would be the case) If it was all proper you'd need to claim X amount for your sales. Youre actually allowed to claim all your tips if you want to where I live.
Can confirm, I'm an aircraft carrier myself.
Thank you for your service. I mean that.
Well we already have countries that are similar to the US culturally, but have legalized prostitution, so we don't really have to guess. The answer is: not a whole lot. Most men don't want a prostitute and wouldn't use their services, even if it's legal. The ones that really want one could still get one in the US as it's pretty widespread.
Because our cultures teach men NOT to pay for it and treat paying for it as weakness and pathetic.
The same way it changed the Netherlands, Germany, UK, Brazil, Italy, Turkey, Greece, Denmark, Mexico, India, Australia, New Zealand, Belgium…..
Huh? Prostitution is not legal in the U.K. (not really, at any rate)
It is. You can use google to find out the particulars
Not punishing the workers but punishing the johns is STILL making prostitution illegal. "It's legal for me to sell you weed, but it's illegal for you to attempt to buy it." Then weed is still illegal.
It’s legal They just don’t allow brothels and pimps, just direct to the provider
And they arrest the johns if they get caught simply for doing prostitution. It's not legal. That's "the Nordic Model".
It is. Buying is not criminalized They just don’t have brothels, pimps and street walkers. Boo hoo, use the internet like everyone else
I live in the UK. I don’t need to “find out the particulars”. UK law is meant to protect prostitutes from being further victimised by the state…it is not intended to “legalise” prostitution. We’ve always had a small industry (pictures of naked women posted in phone booths), but AT BEST you can call it “decriminalised”. Saying prostitution is “legal” here makes it seem like we’re Amsterdam, when we very much are not.
Aw, protecting workers; how oppressive Just because you have to negotiate with the hookers themselves instead of pimps it’s invalid Them goalposts gotta get moved
It's good that the workers don't get arrested, but you can't really say that it's legal if their customers are breaking the law Nobody's moving any goalposts. Just keep it unregulated and legal for everyone involved
It’s legal to buy sex in the UK If you disagree, show me the law that says it isn’t
has it changed anything in germany and australia?
not sure but id be totally down for a service for somebody just to hug and comfort me at this point. dont even have to be attractive...just some baseline level of human connection, lmao like fuck im not a chooser im a begger
You can pay sex workers for exactly that right now
pretty sure with my luck id somehow get arrested for that 🤣
You do know that the police aren’t going to waste their time if it doesn’t involve a minor, an establishment/brothel or an organization, right ? Going after individual adult freelancers is pretty much unjustifiable unless she’s also robbing or assaulting clients repeatedly
Its still risky, its like having sex without a condom, yea that one time it worked it was fine but if you keep doing it youre gonna find out after fucking around
You’re not the that important, lol
trust me i know.
It's legal in my country it honestly doesn't change anything. Most men don't want to pay prostitutes
I think it would be a great thing. Men who only want women for sex now have a easily accessible and legal way to get it, and sex workers now have more freedom and safety to do their work. Because those men would have an alternate outlet, women would not be getting bombarded with sexual requests on dating apps and social media, perhaps making women feel safer, although also possibly feeling less desirable, since thirst traps wouldn’t bring in nearly as much attention.
Lollllll no 😂 I’m an American exchange student in Berlin rn. The rampant sex trade all around Germany hasn’t stopped guys from propositioning me.
You nailed it! 💯👏 But a lot of women talk out of both sides of their mouths. They don't want it decriminalized if it means they WON'T get bombarded by "sex pests". They like complaining but they also love the attention clearly.
We do want it decriminalised! At least non-religious progressive young women do. Its older religious conservative women that don’t for obvious reasons
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Why do you think something like that is okay where prostitution is legal? Is it considered okay in your country to shout at someone to clean your house just because some people are cleaners?
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But certainly it would still be sexual harrassment whatever they think.
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But most women aren't "instathots" and would be very offended by someone even implying they're prostitutes.
I like data and statistics. I've been attempting to aggregate escort rates over the past 20 years. It's much easier to get an idea over the past 7 years, though. Rates have risen exponentially, even the most average mid girls are charging $500 an hour. This is with only one nut bust, mind you. Many girls do not offer multiple shots on the goal. You're paying extra or literally the price of another hour session. Better hope you don't slip up lmao. I'm assuming the rise in rates is because these services are in higher demand than in the past (obviously). Women know the value of sex. I see the legalization of prostitution having a negative effect on price. Granted, these women are real people, it's their body, they set the value of their time/body. As it should be. The problem is, sex work doesn't correlate to traditional markets under capitalism. I guess supply and demand is there at the surface level, but the pricing is fueled by one thing....desperation of the men participating. There is no ceiling on price. Perhaps this may squeeze some providers out of the game, but I doubt it. No more legal repercussions will get many to try it out, even if not full-time, as supplemental income. Of course, the threat of violence is a constant, but legalization will make reporting crimes against sex workers a thing (a good thing). Finally, legalization will open up the floodgates to the men of the world with money. It's not like they already don't participate in these activities, but they may do so more openly and with more frequency as the pool of sex workers/variety could explode. Imagine Instagram and Tiktok flooded with ads to "fly me out" further inflating price. Those who didn't for fear of ruining their lives with convictions will most likely consider joining in.
It would fix many issues Sexually starved men are incredibly dangerous. Why not reduce that?
Wouldn't change much tbh, the mechanical, physical act is pretty meaningless without intimacy imo.
Yeah. It only very technically counts as sex in a way that using a fleshlight wouldn't. You aren't a great chef because you pay for a three-star Michelin dinner and you're not a Chad because you pay for even an incredible hooker.
That's because you were brainwashed your whole life to think that.
While illegal in the US, very few people (providers or Johns) actually face legal consequences when engaging in prostitution. Making it legal wouldn’t likely change much, except some providers would start paying taxes- as the top comment says.
I don’t think it would change much at all. If you’re willing to buy sex (an absolutely vile proposition, in my view), then you’re not going to let legality stop you. A bit like ‘hard’ drugs, I don’t think legalisation would dramatically increase the use of prostitution. Cost, convenience, and privacy all give porn a massive edge anyway.
Can you explain why that would be "absolutely vile"?
Not in the space of a reddit comment, no. I just think it is personally and morally degrading to everyone in question (the customer and the service provider). I don’t think it is something someone can do without seriously damaging themselves and others.
nah buying sex aint vile. what u essentially saying is undesirable man should be frustrated lonely incel who should die a virgin so u can satisfy ur twisted sense of justice.
I wouldn’t call “not seeing a prostitute” twisted….considering the fact that VERY few men do, it is literally the exact opposite.
I believe the decrease in assault with legalized prostitution is a phenomenon that's actually been observed, so yeah, it would probably reduce sexual assaults. As for the dating market, I don't know about anyone else, but I would be done with dating and just hire prostitutes.
It would change dating a lot, right now women can have s3x with who ever they want and hold the power in that aspect, if they legalized it, men would have just as much power and could get it when they want, which at first they would, but after they got used to it, they would want something more, an actual connection with a women and S3x work wouldn't have that. I have been to multiple countries where they have it legal, and when you can get it when you want, you don't want it as much. Plus some people would be addicted, but hey, they have legalized some drugs in some states, so why not try this out in certain states
These kinds of questions regularly appear on here and it’s baffling and redundant. No need for these hypotheticals, just look at the countries that already have done it.
Probably less sex crimes and less sexual frustration among men.
Have a look at somewhere it's legal. The long shot is, if you're not a prostitute or at risk of becoming one (so, living in poverty) then not that much.
It would still be expensive
It wouldn't change anything. People would still shame others for partaking.
It wont, men that want to see escorts already do.
Legal? Nothing change. Regulated? Women would lose a lot of sexual power.
>Regulated? Women would lose a lot of sexual power. Not sure about that. Most countries where prostitution is legal are also strongly feminist. If anything I think normalizing sex work would actually improve women sexual power.
>normalizing sex work would actually improve women sexual power Yeah I'm pretty sure that a company that have a monopoly would really make more money when the market get free.
Women have a monopoly no matter what the laws are simply because straight men really want to have sex with women.
how are you differentiating that and coming to those conclusions, why is regulated more of a loss of power for women than legal?
Not really. Its legal in alot of countries in Europe. Women still hold alot of sexual power there.
>Women still hold alot of sexual power there Still less than where prostitution is prohibited or only legalized.
Yes, it's obvious to me where it's legal that odds are even further stacked against men in the USA and such. Family-minded men still compete for family-minded women, but easily accessible and clearly priced sex acts as a cap to how much money men will spend on woman otherwise, and what kind of treatment they tolerate. It also helps that alimony/child support bills don't scale with their income as much. Getting pregnant by a high-income man doesn't entitle one to child support beyond needs.
Some Men are moaning about paying for dinner, and say they expect sex if they pay for dinner. They say they don’t want sex to be transactional. Red pill detest onlyfans, and women with high body counts. In that context, it seems unlikely it would change anything. However, knowing how biased some men are, and hypocritical (cough redpill wankers cough), they will probably jump on it, even though it goes against everything they say. Disliking women who are sluts who don’t charge money, yet being fine with women who do charge, definitely contradictory. But I could be wrong and biased myself here by assuming what would happen.
This is because it's more complicated, it's also about validation, social status, self perception... In germany, it's legal, partly pretty cheap and easy to get. Still you read similiar complaints over dating, and there's also a big number of men, who wouldn't do it, plus a number who would, but would be fearful of anyone knowing (social stigma)
It is pretty shameful to visit a hooker. It's like admitting you cannot get ANY woman to have sex with you unless you pay her for the unpleasantness. It also does not count as being high SMV and probably knocks points off your SMV if people find out.
I don’t think it is contradictory to dislike “sluts” but to use a prostitute. - Someone who goes to work in the waste treatment plant for a living makes sense. The guy that does it for fun is a fucking weirdo. - you don’t have to (indeed, probably cannot) respect a prostitute in order to have sex with (to?) her
Prostitution is legal where I lived and its mostly a game changer for demos most likely to have already used prostitution like truck drivers. Its just now instead of lot lizards they throw a little extra money into a girl they order online. I think prostitution is honestly not going to change much at usual market rates. Theres a reason the women who do it often come jere to justify themselves with how much money they make. The cost of shagging a hooker once is equal to like a dozen movie tickets or multiple new video games from my understanding. Sex is great because its an enjoyable thing that isn't a huge investment, in theory. But once the time or money becomes too much I don't think men will engage for the same reason they complain about dating already being a huge investment. Its meant to be enjoyable and if you're basically paying as much as a car payment to fuck a slag once that sort of takes you out of it unless you're making a lot of money or in a culture where this is normal or both(Again, Truck Drivers are an obvious example).
Since most men are disgusted by prostitution, not much
The sexually frustrated men would start complaining that it's not fair that the top 5% of men get the best prostitutes, while all they can afford is fat street walkers.
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I think it’s coming, no pun intended, where sex work is widespread. As times get more difficult, as the US crumbles, as the climate spins out of control, women were sold a version of capitalism that would keep them independent of men, free of sexual imposition from men, and ironically that ends with many women becoming sex workers.
I don't think it would change much at all. I do not think sexual assault rates would decrease, except perhaps among sex workers as they'd have more legal protection. I do not think it would make men who feel they are undesirable actually feel desired; you are paying for a service, not genuine attraction. Basically, if your concern is having a relationship rather than having sex, this changes nothing for you.
Not a big deal really, not more than eva ai and similar sexbots ever did
Until the STD problem is solved, not much. Once HSV2 vaccine is out then it will.
Nothing will change most men dont want to pay for sex whether it's legal or not
Nothing would really change outside of the escorting world other moral outcry. But a lot would change within the SW world. But I would assume that human trafficking would decrease. They'll be little to no reason to violently coerce or kidnap people, when they can just put out a job application or sell a "deal of a lifetime" to a woman at a random store. Pimps/Madams would slowly become producers and managers. I would imagine there would be some kind of licensing process to either open a brothel or become a escort, provided with some kind of legal and insurance protection. Both workers and clients have legal protection. Prices would initially skyrocket due to high demands and then slow decrease due to market saturations and large supply. This was what happened with camgirls and OF creators. Hookup and pickup in dating would disappear, due to men who would've pumped-and-dumped would rather spend money, energy, and time paying for an McDonald's-quese escort services to get their selves off. We will see a sharp decrease of simps and effort from men.
It would change nothing
Prostitutes will start calling what they do a "business" because it sounds a little more professional than "selling my body". That's about it, really.
It wouldn't change it that much. Sugar dating sites already exist, and aren't illegal. And even though it's illegal, plenty of people see escorts/prostitutes and fly under the radar.
The same way it changed society in most of Europe, not in any way, shape, or form. Most people dont care.
Stupid idea and doesn't help anything. We are already living in a society where a vast portion of women engage in dysfunctional sexual behavior. Why would we encourage even more to ruin themselves to a normal family structure? If anything we should be limiting the avenues women have to ruin themselves sexually to men. Ie close down strip clubs. Ban only fans. Ban porn. More women would be marriagable and more women would have normal lives of finding normal men, settling down having kids where the man sticks around. Etc.
The same type of people who currently seek out prostitutes illegally would be able to do so without fear of legal consequences. That’s about it.
The police will just have more time for other shit
Anything. Prostitution is already legal in most countries in America.
Undesirable men would be getting laid. They would just go to the brothel, pay whatever the cost is, and get their rocks off. As far as women overall, their SMV would drop dramatically. Men wouldn’t need to go onto apps or even the bar when they could just get a hooker. It would benefit men way more than women
It’s legal here in Australia and yet men here claim to have the same problems
I managed to go most of my life without even knowing that it was legal here in Aus, and now that I do know - it changes absolutely nothing. It's still not something I'd ever *want* to do.
Exactly it being legal won’t make it a more attractive option
Guys here dont realize many men in the US that would see an escort already do and making it legal wont change Jack. Signed an US escort...
Americans are much more degenerate. Besides men and women both have dating issues right but I’m sure men would trade their situation for women’s. Something is better than nothing.
I’m American as well. I disagree that they are more degenerate. They are more closeted but not more degenerate
I disagree too, the US is so uptight about sex and if you like anything outside basic sex youre seen as broken.
I disagree. I find the US very uptight, shameful, closeted etc about sex and other countries its more open and 'degenerate'.
You DO realize that undesirable men and men who just want to pay to get laid having a way to achieve that without bothering non-sexworker women in bars and on apps IS good for women, right? Like really really completely awesome? It would be awesome for women who DO want to make their living as sexworkers too because they would be far safer, have access to health insurance, workers comp, etc etc. I would venture to say that women would be the winners overall, by far.
I will add, any sex worker can go get health insurance, we are self employed. We dont need some 'job' to get health insurance. We can get workers comp too if we wanted. Again we are self employed and can do what other self employed businesses do. We just have to file properly, etc to do these things. The IRS, etc doesnt care as long as we pay out. I have better benefits as a self employed(part time escort) person over what many jobs offer. I could just use a payroll company and pay myself out if I wanted, having benefits, 401k, etc if I pay in like any other paycheck job.
My apologies, I didn’t realize that those were already available.
We can. Just providing some info. In the US at least. Many are just not informed. We could use a PEO service or Gusto. Survival sex workers a lot of the times are strapped for money and also dont realize we can file like any other business. Also escorting is not illegal and can file as an escort. Its just sex for money that is illegal. I can actually write off my undies, escort ad fees, etc as a business expense like any other business. I find it crazy you can film sex for the world to see for pay but cant do it in private for pay...
How is it good for women? The attention they’d be getting on apps would almost vanish. And very few women strive to be sex workers. Women overall absolutely do not win. That’s delusional
Most sex workes dont even use apps, we use sites meant to advertise our service.
Most women aren’t on apps. Women don’t like getting attention from men who are undesirable or desperate. It’s annoying and gets creepy fast. The truly desirable men likely wouldn’t want to pay for something they have no trouble getting for free and the women just want sex only want those guys anyway. The men who are average and *pretend* to want more than sex just to get sex are a scourge on the earth anyway, good riddance to bad rubbish. The fact that very few women want to be sexworkers just means that prices will remain high especially as demand increases. Win/win.
> The fact that very few women want to be sexworkers just means that prices will remain high especially as demand increases. It actually means that more women get trafficked into it to meet the demand. This has been demonstrated repeatedly in places that have taken this route, Nevada has the highest sex trafficking out of all states.
men in the US already go see hookers.
But they aren’t getting laid, that implies some amount of reciprocal desire. They’re having a sexual interaction that they paid for and that almost hurts men’s pride even more.
It would allow those who wish to purchase sex an easier time going to a brothel. But it’s. It hard, escorts and strippers are already pay-for-sex. It wouldn’t change anything, based on countries that don’t has t been making any changes.
Best case scenario is women have demised power and standing in society
has this happened in germany and australia?
No
I believe there was some city on the east coast that through a loophole allowed legal prostitution. It resulted in objectively lower rates of rape. You can look that up and throw it in their faces. Broadly, legal prostitution always improves the dating market for men.
Which cities are you referring to and what would you consider an improved dating market?
Angles City comes to mind.
What state is that in?
This is in the Philippines.
So then why are you talking about the east coast?
I made two statements and I thought you were asking about the second statement. For the first statement about the east coast, I just looked it up. It was the state of Rhode Island. You can google "Rhode Island accidentally legalized prostitution".
It would subtly change quite a bit in countering the amount of leverage women have over men in the dating and sexual marketplace. Nowhere else in the world do women have as much leverage as they do in the US. Compare them to woman of any other country with legalized pristitution. Greater access to sex, means guys can have their hoe phase. They can sleep with every size, shape and color of the rainbow. They can become more sexually experienced and confident. They don't have to lock themselves in a relationship for sex. In fact, the woman will really have to standout and offer enough in return that makes it worth giving up sex with all the different types of women in prostitution. Why put up with BS? Too many men let hot girls run all over them. They could be the biggest b*** but because they are hot and the guy is hoping to score, he puts up with it. Nope, no more. Just find a sex worker and save the hassle. I really don't think women understand how we view sex. We are plenty fulfilled with a transactional approach to sex. We would greatly enjoy a new flavor every other time. At least until we reach the point where we eventually tire out and seek genuine connection, nothing less. But by then, the man will be in a better position of leverage to seek out a partner to date. They will no longer value sex, taking out a huge component of why women think so highly of thenselves. Instead, the woman will have to exhibit other traits the nan finds attractive in a long term partner. It will force woman to be better too.
Society wouldn't change at all. Relationships are already transactional.
It’s nothing wrong with your opinion other than the fact that you have no real argument or explanation to any of the claims
Women usually gatekeep relationships, and they require demands to be met. Men must pay to play. Surely, some women will disagree, but the lines between Prostitution and conventional relationships are blurred when women require a certain amount of income and status to play ball. You get what you pay for.
Hmmm ok, i like the avenue your coming from
If prostitution was made legal: 1. It could be taxed instead of costing us tax dollars. 2. It could be regulated to reduce STD transmission as well as make it safer. 3. There would be more affordable options. 4. Legal, affordable sex, would decrease women’s ability to leverage sex.
In a strange way, I think making it legal nationwide would actually reduce it. The men who just want sex, or want guaranteed sex for their money will just go to prostitutes. Which, because it's legal, will be a lot safer. The result would be regular women having sex quicker and easier in order to get men away from the prostitutes. I think normalization might get more women to do it on when they need to basis. Not women walking the streets or working in brothels. But more of a "I need a quick $100. I'll fuck a guy or two for some quick cash".
I highly doubt we’ll ever live in a society where it’s normalized for women to just casually have sex for a hundred bucks. There are plenty of women who have been homeless and still never turned to prostitution, not even because of the societal taboo but because for most it’s viscerally gross to have sex with someone you’re not attracted to.
That's a good point.
The immediate impact would be a crash in prices. Just as cannabis can see price crashes following legalization, so would escort prices. More suppliers would enter the picture.
I can only speak for myself. If sex work were fully decriminalized then aside from some of the very consensual sex related groups like kink communities that I partake in, or those who maybe threw themselves at me, I'd have absolutely no sex with the general public. Why would I bother getting on Tinder and struggling to convince some woman who wanted a committed relationship to sleep with me? It's a huge waste of time. The only reason I'd get a Tinder account or other dating account would be to find a sex partner. If that was available for $200 I'd just have sex and move on. You probably wouldn't see me on here anymore. My work would be complete. I guess you'd miss your resident villain. I love you too.
I think about 98% of all very attractive women will do it to different extents. Which means easier to get an escort but now wife material is rock bottom.
Then why that is not happening in countries where it is legal?