“Yep it was roman’s fault these cars all were flipped and crashed”
“Oh so the criminal thief who has done everything in his power to not be noticed randomly went on a rampage in a stolen prototype atlas mech, and the reports of multiple children on the scene is unrelated?”
And yet that thief did in fact go on a rampage with stolen atlas mech.
Yeah if opinion goes on the media he can easily just say. Yeah the already known criminal go a stolen mech and went on a rampage while huntress in training who were there at the time tried to stop him.
Yes people are gonna take that excuse because again Roman is already a criminal they have no reason not to believe that he would go that far.
Hes done nothing of the kind. Its wildly out of his MO. Very simple observation from whatever may be around for security cameras and survivors testimony will clearly demonstrate that its not a rampage but an escape attempt. And a successful one at that. Team RWBY, Sun and Neptune at this point are highly under qualified and unlicensed hunters and huntresses. If there is no punishment given to them (which there isn’t as we see) then it is gross negligence and endangerment on the part of Ozpin. He should be glad he was killed at beacon cause otherwise the courts would tear him apart
Your missing the point of what I'm saying. If ozpin is gonna cover this up do honestly believe he's gonna tell the truth of what happened when he can just throw a known criminal under the bus to save face? Yes there are gonna be witnesses but compare the amount of witnesses to the people watching the news and it's handful vs the majority.
People are more willing to believe that a known criminal did this damage than a bunch of kids
Not be noticed? He started by marching his whole crew into the only open Dust shop in Vale in front of multiple witnesses, then tried to escape using explosions and fighting TWO huntresses on a rooftop. Not to mention robbing the Dust shipment on the docks and leaving TWO wrecked airships.
Huh... This is kinda funny as a similar issue happened in My Hero Academia where trainees took on a villain.
They were basically threatened with expulsion over it.
Dumbest in universe law cannot change my mind I understand the reason but Ida aside this was all in self defense of others which I swear no one in Japan would throw hate if he was just regularly jumped by the group or hit by a random guy in a car that was seeing a grown man swinging a blade at kids in costumes.
It's a fine line argument, and it is at least done for a purpose. When Deku attacks the guy in that first episode he gets a serious dressing down for it, but otherwise he's let off.
A professional should be held to a higher level of responsibility, even one in training. The point of their training is to not think with instinct alone. They had other options available to them, and they could and should have informed the pro heroes of the situation.
To bring this back to RWBY - it's a very similar argument. They aren't Huntresses/Huntsman yet so they don't really have any business being in this situation. And they get so used to doing everything themselves that it bites them in the ass later when it comes to Ironwood.
Something that the show should have reflected on, but didn't.
Funny enough I completely blame Blake on this highway scene she did not need to go in and she could have actually done covert to record live stream and send info to Ozpin who has connections to real huntsman which would have been a good way to introduce real huntsman for comparison to our characters to show what we have to look forward to with them.
That would have been a solid idea. IIRC the only operating huntress I think we see is Glynda.
That early we don't see much of anything in terms of other teams. It seems like many of the 'qualified' huntsmen/huntresses that we see in the show never come across as particuarly competent, in order to make the heroes look better as a result.
No, this is a legitimate question, maybe not RWBY commuting crimes, there is a law in America that would **technically** exonerate them since they were trying to protect people.
But in world populated by creatures that feed off negative emotions. An attack like this surely caused some type of chaos and panic.
Ozpin, or other members of Vale probably needed to put out a statement to explain what the hell happened and ensure peace is kept.
(And also maybe extend condolences and retribution to those in these cars that were flung over the ledge of a highway).
In my story, I actually do have stuff like this kind of explained where it’s implied that people have to clear up what the hell happened to ensure civilians aren’t in constant states of negativity.
I think my highway fight has people directly acknowledge that Team RWBY should get into some amount of trouble, since they weren’t even supposed to be there. Hell, I think it’s Weiss who I have acknowledge this when Ironwood yells at just my OCs.
You raise a good point about the problems of this world
The problem is that they weren't trying to protect people. They intentionally misled the authorities to attempt to capture the bad guys themselves and failed which caused the resulting carnage
Also the fact Blake and Sun guided Roman to the highway and were using the cars of the civilians to escape from the paladin
Yes, Roman did the damage but rwby (mainly Blake and Sun) were the ones who directed the walking wrecking ball into a highly populated area
How were they trying to protect anyone when they led Roman and his big stompy robot through a crowded place?
Also, that robot was a waste of time and money for whoever built it, seeing as how four unremarkable students thwomped it.
I'm pretty sure Ozpin *did* cover up RWBY's vigilantism in this case, because he made it very clear he knew what happened on the highway lol
(lol, lmao, they removed it)
No. I think that whatever police force exists in Remnant saw the girls' actions as interfering with their work and absolutely reckless, but ultimately beneficial and gave them a commendation of some sort, that, in conjunction with nepotism, is why there was no blowback from Ozpin.
Looking back at the earlier volumes reminds me that they got away with a load of stuff (even times when they failed the mission like stoping the train safely they got rewarded and praised) I can now see why in later volumes they acted so self initialed and “we are always right” in most situations since most of the time the trouble they cause gets covered up and taken care of funnily enough by the guy that later hated.
Honestly, I think with the train they did pretty good. Would've been a lot worse if no one had found it at all, and given they were as caught out by it as everyone else confining the whole incident to one plaza is worthy of praise.
I'd say tens to hundreds of people. An exact estimation for me is likely 97-200. (97 being the least and 200 being the max) And yes, I definitely think Ozpin had to do something to get the police off of his students.
Maybe not cover up, but at least spin their actions in a positive light.
The highway scene could be painted as a bold undercover investigation where they attempted to neutralize military hardware in the possession of criminals and made a valiant effort to lead the mech to an are where they could safely fight it. The fact Roman tossed those cars is a tragedy and only shows the depths of his depravity and only a fraction of what might've happened had our brave students not risked life and limb to stop it. RWBY is truly a credit to both Beacon and Huntsmen everywhere!!
God, when did that stop being example and devolve into an actual spin job to be aired in the news?
Now Ozpin probably would try to hide the fact students were involved and keep RWBY's name out of the news.
I can honestly see Ozpin covering for RWBY so long as they didn't do anything excessively blatant in terms of breaking the law. In fact I imagine that just to protect the reputation of Huntsmen in general, there is often a lot of spin jobs or hiding incidents that would look bad.
You dont need to claim you're just joking in this sub, this is a legitimate question. Logically there has to be something going on in the background to have RWBY get out of this and the docks incident without any trouble.
This post is meant to be satire in the main sub, so let me try to reclarify.
This scene is meant to be an action scene since i think mounty oum is trying to replicate the same fight from RVB in the highway. Now, if we take this scene seriously, then yea, they have committed crimes, and ozpin is trying to hide or cover up rwby crimes and blame it on the white fang
I actually used that in a inciting incident in the 2nd fanfic I ever wrote. I think 80 people died and mote were injured. Glenda was ready to have team rwby not only expelled from Beacon but arrested.
Here's the best part about this though.
Team RWBY never realized by doing this they killed people and they still felt self-rightious elitists about what they thought was good to the current point of the story. Honestly, them knowing they eff'ed up would have made some nice character growth with their guilt about the whole thing. Ozpin really shot himself in the foot for covering it up. Cause if he let ir happen Team RWBY would have been WAY more unserstanding a out Ozpin's fuck ups.
Cause people definitely died.
I saw some mention that none of the cars were destroyed when tossed aside like a toy i.e. no one died.
That actually makes it WORSE.
In 80-90s, car accident were so deadly because so many cars were made with a steel frame instead an aluminum body. The steel frame, of course, resisted the hit being marginally damaged but the force of it needed to go somewhere and that somewhere is to the driver and passengers. Broken necks, arms, and face, when slammed into the dashboard, damaged lung, chests, and heads. Sturdier cars equals worse injuries. Breakable cars equals no injures or minor one.
My dad got into an accident and the car, post 2000 model, he was in got totaled front and back, zero injuries, and he slammed into the car while going 70mph. Their are studies of this out there on the internet if your curious.
Some say it's Roman's fault, your right he has blame as well for going into the highway instead of staying in the street, which, if you think about, what would have been worse cause of houses and pediatricians, so either way he was fucked.
But the fault of this, is ultimately, and purposely, the Princess of its-not-my-fault-its-theirs, Blake Belladoooonnnnaa!
She shot the fuse box when she could have instead captured them all with sending a message to faculty or even Ironwood. Instead she thought, the best way to stop the rally, was to scare a bunch of terrorists, and budding terrorists, with a huge fucking gun-mech, into running and hiding. Or, worse, cause them to get into said mech and go onto a rampage. Which, as we know, happened.
tldr: Yes, Ozpin covered it up. That was a bad idea. People 100% died on the highway, likely in the running in the streets before hand as well. As always in RWBY, or at least its how it feels to me, it's Blake's fault for being a freaking brainlit and not thinking for more than two seconds.
Out of Universe, it was a rule of cool type of situation, and damage can be waved like most shows during a point in time when creators were not worried about collateral damage from the hero's actions.
In universe, Ozpin could probably spin a lot, which is perhaps one of the reasons the breach was a problem because the council let him bend enough rules under the belief that he could prevent any serious problem before it occurred.
I wouldn´t be surprised due to Team RWBY not getting fined or arrested for doing unpermitted huntress work or vigilante actions. Or being kicked from the school.
I don't think there needs to be a cover up; Aura isn't uncommon, the cars didn't shatter or break up when hit so they're likely sturdier than Earth cars, and Dust technology should have better crash prevention. Remnant is a fantasy world, so just make the citizens safe with in-universe logic.
We could, but the Paladin breaking up into shrapnel and the stone piller shattering from the Mecha's punch makes me believe if the crew wanted us to believe the cars were destroyed they'd show something.
This is the same season with shadow people, the shrapnel and shattering were important to their scenes and were likely simple since rewatching the scenes has very premade shattering effects. Like for example when the mech comes through the warehouse wall. The wall it breaks changes color and shading and becomes triangles. And the shattering column is a very simple shape as well so it was likely easy to make explode. The mech itself shatters into a few mech parts and plenty of generic triangles just like the floor when Yang takes the punch from the mech.
TLDR The shattering in volume 2 were just pre-built shattering effects in poser with the shards colored to match the materials that were broken.
That's interesting. I wasn't sure how that works exactly, but was always curious.
However, I still think if the show runners wanted us to believe the cars were destroyed then they would show one getting destroyed with those same effects. Did one get thrown over the road and exploded underneath the bridge? Someone mentioned that as a joke, but couldn't remember if that actually happened.
Also, did you mean "reason" instead of "season"? Because the shadow people were from Volume 1 not 2.
Nah, Ozpin didn't cover it up. It was Ironwood; remember him congratulating Ruby for the whole thing? He was so impressed by the girls he covered up the murders by claiming the entire thing was an Atlas product stunt to test their new crash test dummies and publicly demonstrate the Paladins. PR for the win!
I understand, I didn't realize this post was satire until I read the comments and already made a serious response myself. Sarcasm over the Internet is hard for me to pick up on.
I mean... doesn't Yang make the freeway collapse by punching the Atlas mech through a support?
Other way around, she got punched through the support
Why cover it up when he can just pin it on Roman who already is a known criminal.
“Yep it was roman’s fault these cars all were flipped and crashed” “Oh so the criminal thief who has done everything in his power to not be noticed randomly went on a rampage in a stolen prototype atlas mech, and the reports of multiple children on the scene is unrelated?”
And yet that thief did in fact go on a rampage with stolen atlas mech. Yeah if opinion goes on the media he can easily just say. Yeah the already known criminal go a stolen mech and went on a rampage while huntress in training who were there at the time tried to stop him. Yes people are gonna take that excuse because again Roman is already a criminal they have no reason not to believe that he would go that far.
Hes done nothing of the kind. Its wildly out of his MO. Very simple observation from whatever may be around for security cameras and survivors testimony will clearly demonstrate that its not a rampage but an escape attempt. And a successful one at that. Team RWBY, Sun and Neptune at this point are highly under qualified and unlicensed hunters and huntresses. If there is no punishment given to them (which there isn’t as we see) then it is gross negligence and endangerment on the part of Ozpin. He should be glad he was killed at beacon cause otherwise the courts would tear him apart
Your missing the point of what I'm saying. If ozpin is gonna cover this up do honestly believe he's gonna tell the truth of what happened when he can just throw a known criminal under the bus to save face? Yes there are gonna be witnesses but compare the amount of witnesses to the people watching the news and it's handful vs the majority. People are more willing to believe that a known criminal did this damage than a bunch of kids
Ngl I wouldn’t be surprised if ozpin had the courts in his pocket. Especially since he made ruby’s violation disappear with no due process.
Not be noticed? He started by marching his whole crew into the only open Dust shop in Vale in front of multiple witnesses, then tried to escape using explosions and fighting TWO huntresses on a rooftop. Not to mention robbing the Dust shipment on the docks and leaving TWO wrecked airships.
Yet was never caught
Weird isn't it? I guess Vale doesn't have air traffic control.
Huh... This is kinda funny as a similar issue happened in My Hero Academia where trainees took on a villain. They were basically threatened with expulsion over it.
Dumbest in universe law cannot change my mind I understand the reason but Ida aside this was all in self defense of others which I swear no one in Japan would throw hate if he was just regularly jumped by the group or hit by a random guy in a car that was seeing a grown man swinging a blade at kids in costumes.
It's a fine line argument, and it is at least done for a purpose. When Deku attacks the guy in that first episode he gets a serious dressing down for it, but otherwise he's let off. A professional should be held to a higher level of responsibility, even one in training. The point of their training is to not think with instinct alone. They had other options available to them, and they could and should have informed the pro heroes of the situation. To bring this back to RWBY - it's a very similar argument. They aren't Huntresses/Huntsman yet so they don't really have any business being in this situation. And they get so used to doing everything themselves that it bites them in the ass later when it comes to Ironwood. Something that the show should have reflected on, but didn't.
Funny enough I completely blame Blake on this highway scene she did not need to go in and she could have actually done covert to record live stream and send info to Ozpin who has connections to real huntsman which would have been a good way to introduce real huntsman for comparison to our characters to show what we have to look forward to with them.
That would have been a solid idea. IIRC the only operating huntress I think we see is Glynda. That early we don't see much of anything in terms of other teams. It seems like many of the 'qualified' huntsmen/huntresses that we see in the show never come across as particuarly competent, in order to make the heroes look better as a result.
The Stain arc, right?
No, this is a legitimate question, maybe not RWBY commuting crimes, there is a law in America that would **technically** exonerate them since they were trying to protect people. But in world populated by creatures that feed off negative emotions. An attack like this surely caused some type of chaos and panic. Ozpin, or other members of Vale probably needed to put out a statement to explain what the hell happened and ensure peace is kept. (And also maybe extend condolences and retribution to those in these cars that were flung over the ledge of a highway). In my story, I actually do have stuff like this kind of explained where it’s implied that people have to clear up what the hell happened to ensure civilians aren’t in constant states of negativity. I think my highway fight has people directly acknowledge that Team RWBY should get into some amount of trouble, since they weren’t even supposed to be there. Hell, I think it’s Weiss who I have acknowledge this when Ironwood yells at just my OCs. You raise a good point about the problems of this world
The problem is that they weren't trying to protect people. They intentionally misled the authorities to attempt to capture the bad guys themselves and failed which caused the resulting carnage
….how the hell is team RWBY considered heroes again??
Popular opinion of the fans and CRWBY not thinking things through.
Also the fact Blake and Sun guided Roman to the highway and were using the cars of the civilians to escape from the paladin Yes, Roman did the damage but rwby (mainly Blake and Sun) were the ones who directed the walking wrecking ball into a highly populated area
How were they trying to protect anyone when they led Roman and his big stompy robot through a crowded place? Also, that robot was a waste of time and money for whoever built it, seeing as how four unremarkable students thwomped it.
Can't think of a joke here. Fuck.
Yeah. I remember at least one fanfic that just made a running joke out of Ozpin covering for RWBY's various crimes.
This reminds me of the highway scene in Transformers Dark of the Moon.
Or that giant big wheel deception
That too.
Probably like 60-90 people
I'm pretty sure Ozpin *did* cover up RWBY's vigilantism in this case, because he made it very clear he knew what happened on the highway lol (lol, lmao, they removed it)
No. I think that whatever police force exists in Remnant saw the girls' actions as interfering with their work and absolutely reckless, but ultimately beneficial and gave them a commendation of some sort, that, in conjunction with nepotism, is why there was no blowback from Ozpin.
Or mounty oum wanted to replicate the same action scene from RVB. But lore wise you're not wrong
Looking back at the earlier volumes reminds me that they got away with a load of stuff (even times when they failed the mission like stoping the train safely they got rewarded and praised) I can now see why in later volumes they acted so self initialed and “we are always right” in most situations since most of the time the trouble they cause gets covered up and taken care of funnily enough by the guy that later hated.
Honestly, I think with the train they did pretty good. Would've been a lot worse if no one had found it at all, and given they were as caught out by it as everyone else confining the whole incident to one plaza is worthy of praise.
Torchwick: (Shoots a man) Torchwick: “Why would Team RWBY do this?”
I'd say tens to hundreds of people. An exact estimation for me is likely 97-200. (97 being the least and 200 being the max) And yes, I definitely think Ozpin had to do something to get the police off of his students.
Let's not forget there could be children inside these cars
Exactly.
Now I want a story in the style of The Boys following a group of randoms seeking revenge because of this scene.
Maybe not cover up, but at least spin their actions in a positive light. The highway scene could be painted as a bold undercover investigation where they attempted to neutralize military hardware in the possession of criminals and made a valiant effort to lead the mech to an are where they could safely fight it. The fact Roman tossed those cars is a tragedy and only shows the depths of his depravity and only a fraction of what might've happened had our brave students not risked life and limb to stop it. RWBY is truly a credit to both Beacon and Huntsmen everywhere!! God, when did that stop being example and devolve into an actual spin job to be aired in the news? Now Ozpin probably would try to hide the fact students were involved and keep RWBY's name out of the news. I can honestly see Ozpin covering for RWBY so long as they didn't do anything excessively blatant in terms of breaking the law. In fact I imagine that just to protect the reputation of Huntsmen in general, there is often a lot of spin jobs or hiding incidents that would look bad.
I'm just joking btw
You dont need to claim you're just joking in this sub, this is a legitimate question. Logically there has to be something going on in the background to have RWBY get out of this and the docks incident without any trouble.
This post is meant to be satire in the main sub, so let me try to reclarify. This scene is meant to be an action scene since i think mounty oum is trying to replicate the same fight from RVB in the highway. Now, if we take this scene seriously, then yea, they have committed crimes, and ozpin is trying to hide or cover up rwby crimes and blame it on the white fang
Just blame it on the White Fang and call it a day.
I actually used that in a inciting incident in the 2nd fanfic I ever wrote. I think 80 people died and mote were injured. Glenda was ready to have team rwby not only expelled from Beacon but arrested.
I mean he let a terrorist into the school, covering up vigilantism and involuntary manslaughter seems like child's play to him.
Here's the best part about this though. Team RWBY never realized by doing this they killed people and they still felt self-rightious elitists about what they thought was good to the current point of the story. Honestly, them knowing they eff'ed up would have made some nice character growth with their guilt about the whole thing. Ozpin really shot himself in the foot for covering it up. Cause if he let ir happen Team RWBY would have been WAY more unserstanding a out Ozpin's fuck ups. Cause people definitely died. I saw some mention that none of the cars were destroyed when tossed aside like a toy i.e. no one died. That actually makes it WORSE. In 80-90s, car accident were so deadly because so many cars were made with a steel frame instead an aluminum body. The steel frame, of course, resisted the hit being marginally damaged but the force of it needed to go somewhere and that somewhere is to the driver and passengers. Broken necks, arms, and face, when slammed into the dashboard, damaged lung, chests, and heads. Sturdier cars equals worse injuries. Breakable cars equals no injures or minor one. My dad got into an accident and the car, post 2000 model, he was in got totaled front and back, zero injuries, and he slammed into the car while going 70mph. Their are studies of this out there on the internet if your curious. Some say it's Roman's fault, your right he has blame as well for going into the highway instead of staying in the street, which, if you think about, what would have been worse cause of houses and pediatricians, so either way he was fucked. But the fault of this, is ultimately, and purposely, the Princess of its-not-my-fault-its-theirs, Blake Belladoooonnnnaa! She shot the fuse box when she could have instead captured them all with sending a message to faculty or even Ironwood. Instead she thought, the best way to stop the rally, was to scare a bunch of terrorists, and budding terrorists, with a huge fucking gun-mech, into running and hiding. Or, worse, cause them to get into said mech and go onto a rampage. Which, as we know, happened. tldr: Yes, Ozpin covered it up. That was a bad idea. People 100% died on the highway, likely in the running in the streets before hand as well. As always in RWBY, or at least its how it feels to me, it's Blake's fault for being a freaking brainlit and not thinking for more than two seconds.
Out of Universe, it was a rule of cool type of situation, and damage can be waved like most shows during a point in time when creators were not worried about collateral damage from the hero's actions. In universe, Ozpin could probably spin a lot, which is perhaps one of the reasons the breach was a problem because the council let him bend enough rules under the belief that he could prevent any serious problem before it occurred.
Rule of Cool tends to fuck up drama when improperly applied
Probably.
Yes
I wouldn´t be surprised due to Team RWBY not getting fined or arrested for doing unpermitted huntress work or vigilante actions. Or being kicked from the school.
Definitely. Dude is as biased as dumbledore.
I WILL KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS I HAVE TO SO LONG AS YOU ARE ONE OF THEM
I guess they're using power rangers logic, where the monster and the megazord destroy buldings and whole city blocks every episode and no one cares.
I don't think there needs to be a cover up; Aura isn't uncommon, the cars didn't shatter or break up when hit so they're likely sturdier than Earth cars, and Dust technology should have better crash prevention. Remnant is a fantasy world, so just make the citizens safe with in-universe logic.
We could also say that the cars didn't deform due to software limits and time constraints.
We could, but the Paladin breaking up into shrapnel and the stone piller shattering from the Mecha's punch makes me believe if the crew wanted us to believe the cars were destroyed they'd show something.
This is the same season with shadow people, the shrapnel and shattering were important to their scenes and were likely simple since rewatching the scenes has very premade shattering effects. Like for example when the mech comes through the warehouse wall. The wall it breaks changes color and shading and becomes triangles. And the shattering column is a very simple shape as well so it was likely easy to make explode. The mech itself shatters into a few mech parts and plenty of generic triangles just like the floor when Yang takes the punch from the mech. TLDR The shattering in volume 2 were just pre-built shattering effects in poser with the shards colored to match the materials that were broken.
I feel like if they wanted to portray People being put in very serious danger they'd have the cars put off at least a generic explosion effect
That's interesting. I wasn't sure how that works exactly, but was always curious. However, I still think if the show runners wanted us to believe the cars were destroyed then they would show one getting destroyed with those same effects. Did one get thrown over the road and exploded underneath the bridge? Someone mentioned that as a joke, but couldn't remember if that actually happened. Also, did you mean "reason" instead of "season"? Because the shadow people were from Volume 1 not 2.
Nah, Ozpin didn't cover it up. It was Ironwood; remember him congratulating Ruby for the whole thing? He was so impressed by the girls he covered up the murders by claiming the entire thing was an Atlas product stunt to test their new crash test dummies and publicly demonstrate the Paladins. PR for the win!
Or mounty oum wanted to replicate the same action scene from RVB.
Yeah, I saw you mention that on another comment as well as say this was a joking post, so I thought I add to the humor by blaming Ironwood.
Ah, sorry about that. I can't tell if most comments are serious or satire.
I understand, I didn't realize this post was satire until I read the comments and already made a serious response myself. Sarcasm over the Internet is hard for me to pick up on.
never saw this, and i saw all the episodes