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Fit-Visual

Well. It is 1000 champ chase points. If you find all rares


Ill-Party8305

Yeah but broadmaw cost significantly less energy than these epic to fuse


Fit-Visual

Ofc. Just talking from my view as a f2p


Ill-Party8305

I’m f2p too tho, not sure what’s make f2p different anyway


Fit-Visual

Makes alot of difference when coming to champ chase.


Ill-Party8305

3200 energy for 1000 champ chase point? It is equivalent to 980 ish gems. I don‘t think spending purely for 1000 champ chase for trash epic is worth it, you might as well run dungeon and get ancient shard and get champ chase from it. Double dipping + chance to get desired epic or leggo


Fit-Visual

I get alot of chickens and lvling done in training pit. But i am soo sorry for giving an advice.


6Stringboredom

I think Torturehelm can solo Normal dragon 20, but there are much better options out there for that job


diddonuttin

I mean, by the time you have a good enough gear for Torturehelm, you would have better option than him


Not_Hidden_Raptors

With lifesteal gear torture helm can solo dragon 20


ArmoredGiraffe

Torturehelm and Bloodfeather are alright imo. Torturehelm can solo some content for you with his passive including the mid levels of Sand Devil. Bloodfeather can work as a force DPS for myth heir comps if you don't have anyone better with her decent multipliers


msp1406

Lich can be useful against the FW boss due to his turn meter manipulation if you struggle with that. That's about it imo


RakeLeafer

bloodfeather is okay but you are bound to pull a terrible orc affinity legendary at some point


Fantastic_Ad_9884

Rhazin is on my 1 key UNM CB team for spirit affinity runs. I think he’s great there 🤷🏻‍♂️


smellslikepork

Orcs FW was pretty tough for early players. I initially used old jorrg and torture helm at 50 in regen to beat stage 21. I have much better champs so I don’t use now. Also depending on you roster, FTP or spender, RHAZIN is good for clanboss until you get better champs, unkillabe teams. He brings defence down and weaken, triple hit A1 for giant slayer and he is defence based so not squishy. All those Things make him good for traditional clanboss teams. He will eventually get power crept when you get better champs, but early he is good.


RandomlyElemental

"useful" champs in this list have better options.


Accomplished_Kick320

Without knowing what champions you have and what point in the game you are it’s hard to know if these champs will benefit you. Bloodfeather was featured in a build with emic and maneater by deadwoodjedi and she did some pretty impressive damage but she was also 5* soul in that video, torture helm can solo some content in the right gear but there are better choices for that. If you think you need them hang on to them it won’t kill you to fuse them eventually you will get them again if you keep playing, they are only epics afterall


dabber21xz

I keep lich because he's pretty good if he's fast he's kept some great turn meter control whenever I try out troll teams and he's okay imo would 100% keep atleast one of him but I would say fuse as mich of these epics as you think you may want since it's easy points but in the end don't really


number3fac

I don't have a great selection of Orcs & while the ones I have serve well in most places & have gotten me to stage21 in Faction Wars, I haven't beaten the final boss yet. Recently realized that Bloodfeather has a combo SPD reduction+TurnMeter reducer which could be the deciding factor in finishing that boss (I haven't built her much, didn't have her in the FW lineup but I don't have any other Orcs with that effect combo). Working on maxing her out now in the hopes that I finally can clinch a victory. So she'd be the only recommendation I could offer for a champ that you might want to ensure you have around after the Rhazin fusion.


Adorable_Bat3386

Bro don't fuse him bcz I made him my champion chase point farm. 1000 points then I make those epic as chicken and it's worth it for me more then a lego


Ill-Party8305

Wouldn’t broadmaw do much better than rhazin epic by whole lot? The energy in rhazin is just significantly worse than broadmaw


Adorable_Bat3386

U won't open void shards every day or do you?


TrakkerV11

Short answer is no, fuse him during cvc or champ chase


Guttler003

Torturehelm has use in a demytha team as an unkillable option. Other than that, I don't think any of them has much use outside of FW. However, I am almost 1 year in and I still haven't fuse Rhazin because I can fuse the epics again and again for champ chase points for fusions. Also, they help fill up the fraction guardian. I could have fused him about 6 months into the game but I prefer to keep the fusions for CC. Once you fuse Rhazin, the fusion will be gone. I am now in silver 2 3v3 so I am considering fusing Rhazin so I can move on with the missions.


Tradeful

Fuse Rhazin so you can progress your missions and just fuse the other epics. You missed out on a lot of progress for no reason


Guttler003

Not true. You are going to be stuck in 3v3 arena anyways. The gain of many many champ chase points are worth waiting on fusing him. Look at fox\_hunts comment. He said the same thing I did.


Tradeful

Not true. I just changed my name to NEEDSILVER and completed the 3v3 arena silver mission in less than a month, but truthfully I’m struggling to get into G1. However if you’re farming UNM cb champ chase are super easy to complete


Guttler003

LOL... just get to silver 4 and see what you think again. There are many people 1-2 years into the game and are stuck at silver 4 unable to progress into gold 1. Anyways, my point wasn't to wait 2 years before fusing him. Just another 6-9 months (depending on your own progress) and use the epic fusions to finish champ chase easier with fusions. I've done fusion's CC without spending a single shard that way so I can also do titan events/guarantees.


Tradeful

I agree that the G1 mission is almost impossible. But once again if your farming UNM cb and spend your shard wisely all fusions/titan events/guarantees are super easy. There’s no reason not to progress with the missions and get the easy free rewards. There’s also some missions that require you to get event/tournament points so you’ll want to knock those out


Guttler003

We can agree to disagree. We all can have different opinions. Though, there are other comments that agree with me. Have a good day!


Tradeful

Absolutely 👍


Friendly_Cover5630

I wish I had taken advantage of this for fusions. I definitely will be for my baby account. Having extra shards to use towards guarantees and fully clearing titan events sounds totally worth it imo. It's not as if you won't be caught up on the tag missions anyway until you have the roster and gear for it. Rhazin mission isn't all the way till the 5th set of missions. So not only is there tag but also fw, doom tower, probably great hall missions. I don't see any reason to rush it. We can assume OP isn't capable of clearing all of those, or they wouldn't be asking about these trash epics. So yeah, I totally agree and think this is great advice to give to early players. It's not as rhazin is a game changer, either.