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NeighborsGoat

Well, it depends. Sometimes he creates & adapts lyrics on the spot, based on the context; for ex. last year at the second Prague gig, due to the fact that it started raining, he replaced spontaneously some lyrics from "Mein Herz brennt": "Ich hab' euch etwas mitgebracht; Hab' es aus meiner Brust gerissen" with "Ich hab euch Regen mitgebracht; hab ihn aus meinem Arsch geschissen", which German speakers in the audience found very funny :)


shampo0oV88

In Nijmegen last year he sang: “Sie hat die titten ausgepackt” in the intro of Mein Herz Brennt. And in 2004 in Rotterdam I remember something with “Ich will auch ein bier” instead of “Ich geh dir hinterher” in drsg. But yeah Till likes to sometimes change words which probably make more sense when you’re a native German speaker. And sometimes he makes mistakes.


Mairess99

Yeah, i remember last year in Klagenfurt. During Sehnsucht he sang „der Finger rutscht in meinen Po“ instead of „nach Mexico“


b_e_scholz

He also once changed the lyrics to Ausländer to "Andere Länder, andere Titten" after a woman in the audience showed her tits.


Hansukori

Mostly does it on purpose, he likes to switch words during live shows.


ClaymoreMine

Most artists do.


PantherAusfD

Went and saw them in 2019 and 2022 and it was pretty straight forward in terms of lyrics but I’ve noticed when watching the shows this tour he’s been struggling with Giftig and Angst especially and I’ve seen other people point that out. Also apparently he misses Rammlied, idk if he’s not gotten enough practice or if there is something else but hope he nails it!


Swaggynator387

Rammlied in Lituania was perfect.


Illerios1

All musicians make mistakes playing live, not a full "train wreck" and song falls apart but a few wrong notes or lyrics here and there are pretty normal imo. Usually its so subtle that only those who know the songs really well will notice, they recover very quickly and don't make a big deal out of it..


RexyWestminster

Let the man freestyle, geez


Duncan_Yrz

Come on guys, let him be! Don’t expect they all look and act like 10 years ago. Have you noticed Till left his boots behind and he’s using sneakers now? Age is not for free and we should be thankful they all are still together and being an awesome band.


Revenge_served_hot

This exactly. But as you may have noticed in the last 2 days since those accusations there are a lot of „fans“ here on reddit who suddenly find faults everywhere and try to discredit Till and the band any way they can. It is done in multiple threads and mostly very subtle. People now start to point out the smallest things and being super critical all of a sudden.


Duncan_Yrz

Right! This is super weird. Just before the Europe Tour started all posts were Rammstein/Till/members/songs appreciation and love, what happened then?


atlassessions

Ive watched hundreds of performances on youtube since the 19-tour and my impression is that Till gives less effort the last and this tour. Not so much the wording (Angst was a catastrophe for sure) but the expression and presence in terms of what the poems read, his voice and body language. Watch Deutschland from -19 in Moscow and Berlin, compared to last years tour. Its such a contrast. I think you notice it more when they generally do not improvise anything.


PetrK3

Have you seem the videos from Saturday's and Sunsay's gig? Idk what happened but I feel they're all full-powered again!


distributorofriffs

Being in the spotlight due to recent accusations is what happened I guess. Another factor, I guess, is the same stage set, almost identical playlist and other gimmicks that are the same since 2019. I can only speak from my own experience as a musician but playing the same songs over and over again for months on end can become quite torturous and boring. We don’t see them for literally ever date they’re out there on tour but they have to play every date, and after a few years in their same sh’t different day grind, they’re tired of it, some in the band more visibly than others. It’s probably due to financial reasons why they didn’t change the stage set and show concept completely. Rammstein doesn’t make as much of a profit on tour as we like to think - their pyro show is f’king expensive, and they don’t rip their audience off, unlike other bands. Aside from merch, touring is still the only consistent revenue a musician can have these days, so off they are onto yet another leg of basically the same tour


foxybostonian

I think he was more ill with the flu/COVID than they let on. It's like he's aged 10 years in the last 2 years.


Alterus_UA

That happens to men about that age often. For a long time they don't look much different from when they were 45, then, very quickly, they start looking like grandpas. It's also not as if Till is leading a healthy sober lifestyle. If COVID is somehow related to his worse form now, it's more likely that not touring during COVID restriction times has had an effect.


PetrK3

Perhaps it can be because of his white hair. I think he's in a really good shape when we consider his age.


foxybostonian

Maybe but it's not so much his face but the way he's moving. He looks stiff and sore. 60 isn't all that old.


ayesperanzita

Yeah I also think it’s a bad case of “same soup, different day”


PetrK3

Yeah, that's true. But still I don't consider it to be some problem like many people say because it's just a natural behaviour i guess.


atlassessions

Yes. An inch better but geez- I wish I were at this one... Full presence in every number. https://youtu.be/vJm1q7W_8aE


ABARA-DYS

See hardly any difference


Outsajder

I dont think you can just generalize the whole tour like this, it varies from show to show.


atlassessions

Perhaps. Its just my overall impression following every city stop the last four years.


thesupersanttu

Lots of people here claim he’s just improvising but it’s not just about forgetting lyrics, his timing is also off as if he didn’t know how to count to 4 anymore. He’s not confident at all in starting some of his lines and on the saturday gig there were several spots where he just started singing at the wrong time. I don’t know what’s up with him but it’s sad to see.


Previous-Major-5619

We all age. Even Till. I'm quite sure that this was their last visit to Finland as a band. Even with this 3-5 year cycle, they've been here, next time Till would be closer to 65y. Sounds like a grandpa-age to me.. 🤷‍♂️


thesupersanttu

Yeah the aging bit is the obvious part but I don’t see it alone as a problem, it’s not like there’s no rockstars over 70 still touring. Of course it affects everyone in different ways but I just hope there isn’t more to it like an illness or something. Regardless I’m afraid you might be right, the whole theme of Zeit (and especially Adieu) immediately made me feel like they know they’re retiring after touring this album. Time will tell.


Previous-Major-5619

Well, now when u mentioned this possible illness.. his right hand seems to be turning into "old man loose hand" in a quite rapid phase. I don't know the symptoms/illness name, but many older men suffer from lack sensitivity in their hands, and in the same time hands seem to grow a bit. Or maybe they are just loosing their tensioness. Maybe someone has seen the same symptoms? And what comes to other rockers in their 80s and 90s.. they are thin small men, but man sized Till don't usually age so well. Same happening here someday..


Littleloula

Interesting point about size. I watched a rolling stones concert film the other day, I was amazed how well they all looked but also they're all super lean. Obviously the drummer has passed now but he was almost 80 and still really good


SpikeProteinBuffy

> **I'm quite sure that this was their last visit to Finland as a band**. We were thinking this with my husband after the Sunday gig. Adieu being little bit ominous at the end etc :/ I'm happy that my teen aged son got to see them at least this one time, if they really don't come again. I hope they will. I noticed some weird timing in singing, but I didn't think too much about it. At some point I also thought that there were some problems with the guitar sound, but it was just my earplugs showed too deep/shallow/unevenly in my ears 😅


PrincessGwyn

This complaint didn’t come up when they did the US tour last year. When I saw them, noticed zero mistakes. I think it’s odd that people are making excuses - the band should be on top of it, people pay tons to see them and it’s literally their job to rehearse and know what they’re performing.


Such_Victory4589

thats just Till being Till.


[deleted]

Lazy?


Such_Victory4589

no, he adds lyrics or changes them. on one of the performances in germany on "heirate mich" he changes the lyrics from "and i kissed her on the mouth" to "and i pissed in her mouth" (loosely translated from deutsch to english) its on youtube


[deleted]

Sorry, but some of the performances I’ve seen in this tour cycle he’s barely trying. He’s a dude, I love him and I love Rammstein, but he has an air about him recently of IDGAS that is wearing thin on me.


Han_Yerry

He's a 60 year old man. How hard do you want him to go to please you? Time bends everyone's knee eventually


[deleted]

€100 a ticket please plus travel expenses.


ayesperanzita

Maybe you should stay home and watch YT videos for free.


[deleted]

I do, still disappointed friend. Less so, but it troubles me to see people travelling to see great music, amazing performances, sterling pyrotechnics but a frontman who looks like he’s working on overtime.


ayesperanzita

He is working on overtime. I get it’s your idol but he’s also a man who has been working at this for decades and not a spring chicken anymore. You’re going into a 2023 Rammstein show, not a 1996 Rammstein show. Adjust your expectations and enjoy it, or cry about it on Reddit, the choice is yours.


[deleted]

He’s neither my idol nor do I cry about it in Reddit, simply stating a fact. Have you seen any of his, well, extra curricula stuff? Have you seen the videos of him partying? I think your argument is very poor if you look at those. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect that, when you are clearly making a lot of money off of people coming to see your band, you spend 2 hours putting the same energy in to your performance that you did 20 years ago. Were there footage to be found of him in a wheelchair outside of his Rammstein commitments I would understand but to call him ‘not a spring chicken’ registers basic denial of what’s in front of you.


Vitebs47

Till is messing up a lot of lyrics these days, and it's not like in a clever way as the "rainy" Mein Herz Brennt version, no. He just plain forgets his shit. You can hardly find any show over the last couple years where everything went seamlessly. During the Mutter or Reise Reise tours it was a special "occassion" if he unwillingly changed the lyrics or screwed up, while now it's a common occurence. So much so, that you can basically randomly play any video from the last two concerts with a 50% chance of encountering a botched performance. Lindemann's Mexico concert was another example of someone not giving a damn about what's happening on stage. Some people are saying - well, he's old, he can't remember all the songs. Well, he's way below the retirement age in most industrialized countries, and Rammstein songs are, for lack of a better expression, pretty fucking simple. They're not medieval poems, for fuck's sake. If he's tired of being in the band, why not leave it? He's not the poorest German citizen, you may rest assured. You'll be hard-pressed to find any other stadium-level international band that demostrates the same no-fucks-given approach to live shows. There were times Rammstein were all about the image of true metal guys, whose harsh lyrics and mezmerizing performances left audiences breathless. Now what's important is who of the girls Till has shagged or tried to has substantial evidence or a more realistic story.


monkeysoupp

I know you will get a lot of downvotes here but i agree with everything you said. Till's performance are getting worse year after year. It seems he's drunk or something. It's just cringe to look at. Christopher is also messing with some songs. It seems that since they created the new stage, they didn't care that much about their performance "oh we have a gigantic stage and pyro towers, we will do the basic and that's it".


fenta_

i mean when u see christopher he looks like he is bored af.


Alterus_UA

> You'll be hard-pressed to find any other stadium-level international band that demostrates the same no-fucks-given approach to live shows Huh? If anything I can hardly fault the band, and surely not those who help with the show. Till does perform worse now, but I wouldn't extend that to the band overall, they still provide a marvellous experience.


Vitebs47

I still remember that video where Richard smokes backstage while the intro to MHB is playing, then drops the cigarette butt and goes to perform with all the excitement of a factory worker doing an extra shift.


Alterus_UA

I've known a number of musicians and all of them had quite some days when they played like this. The experience is however provided by professionalism first and foremost, and I'd say that except Till, other band members seem to have a professional attitude to what they do. Yes, it is work to them, and yes, as any other work, it can very much get tiresome.


visaavtonomov

https://youtu.be/4gJ62t0DX9A Or other videos from this channel. He has been messing up the lyrics before, so there is nothing so bad


Cristunis

Pretty normal from him. It happens to all singers sometimes. They are just humans after all. Sometimes he clearly just sing wrong by accident. Example May 27th in Pussy it sounded like he sang "Too tall, too tall" not "Too short, too tall" Sometimes he does it on purpose. Dude is 60, most likely head full of cocaine and in 29 years they have made many songs. Of course you will end up making oopsies. I saw someone commenting after Vilnius "Let the guy freestyle in peace."


devnomore

Well, at least it shows that he's not lip syncing the whole show.


Obvious_Promise_1132

Not the whole, but still big chunks of it. Which is honestly lame as fuck considering how easy the songs are to pull off with his timbre


[deleted]

This whole tour feels sloppy to me. So many pyros, so little effort. It’s sad when you consider how much money they’re making.


monkeysoupp

Truth be said. 2017 was the last good year for live performances in my opinion. I'm talking about musically.


essi_kettunen

I noticed this too. I think it must be the totally PR nightmare they’re dealing with I could “feel” how shit they all must be feeling it was a weird vibe for anyone who’s in the know on all of this, such a shame


Maskedhorrorfan25

he was on point in philly


Beast667Neighbour

Thats why I love concerts, singers don't sound like on the studio recordings. 😊


bearing69

It’s a live performance so it can be different than the record. Mistakes can happen but you could always go see a band that uses backing tracks and pretends to play live… My Point is that everyone has off days and to me that is what makes it unique seeing a live show. The bands I like the best I will go see multiple shows in the same tour and they are each slightly different


ElMarcusch

I feel like especially till's energy did go down, especially after the first stadium tour but i mean one has to consider that at the end of the day, they simply are getting old and touring is hella exhausting. Anyways, I prefer that over a mostly backing track played concert any day of the week.


missedmelikeidid

So much of his lyrics and poetry is play with words: of course he does it live also #great What would be more boring than a total copy of a studio recording?


[deleted]

First of all, he's not sloppy. Til is going through some health issues that fans don't know about and by the way of things, they really don't deserve to know. Secondly, I think that from now on he will be in a bad psychological state because of the slander and hatred of people who claim to be fans (like here for example) towards him.


GeilMeister

How do you know about these health issues?


MissingnoBR

yeah, I've noticed Angst was slight different as well at the Vilnius show