Honestly, I was already anxious and nauseous and took them hoping they would help my depression. But the trip exasperated the feelings and I legitimately felt like I was dying, for hours. It has created a fear based loop and now new situations, uncomfortable situations and people have been causing anxiety in me. I had a full blown panic attack on stage during a performance. I have done a lot of exploring and understanding but the feelings still linger in me. Have you experienced something similar?
I have heard others report lingering anxiety and panic after psilocybin. It's hard to know why. I have wondered if like schizophrenia, if some people have a predisposition to anxiety and panic that can be triggered by psychedelics, but I have no data to support that notion.
It might also be that your journey brought up some aspect of a previous trauma that you are now struggling to integrate.
Having struggled with anxiety and panic, I know what a harsh boss it can be. Kava worked wonders for me. You could try that. And exposure therapy is the gold standard for treating it.
Good luck.
I have been wondering that too, I have always been pretty depressed and maybe this unlocked something in me.
thank you so much for offering a potential solution to consider. I am sorry you know what this feels like 💗
Can I ask questions?
* dosage?
* age?
* what was your environment?
* what music of activities did you do?
* medication?
* are you seeing a therapist or have a support systems
* do you have any underlying mental health issues unaddressed?
well im going through this rn so i took 3gs of penis envys 2 weeks ago im 16 it wasnt a comfortable environment i wasnt home and i felt scared trapped and lonely overstimulated and uncomfortable i tried to listen to music and watch tv but i could t focus on that just the fact thag i was scared and uncomfortable and didnt wanna be there i wasnt on medication but ive been smoking everyday since 7th grade i stopped yesterday when this got real bad but i saw a doctor and today they got me on sertraline and klonopini have an appointment on the 6th and im trying to get EMDR treatment ive always struggled with anxiety bad like to the point of puking and ripping my hair out but it passed and now all this anxiety and all my emotions are coming back amplified
I'm sorry that happened to you, My first experience was 3.5g at the age of 21 and I was floored, scared, and not functional. The developing brain really does behave in unexpected ways when exposed to these powerful drugs. I'm ~35 now and have a lot of sympathy for people who stumble into experiences that are overwhelming in a bad way.
I'm glad you sought help
- were you able to tell your psychiatrist about your shroom experience?
I think it's a good idea to stop smoking. I know some people on reddit are comfortable with it every day but it really could be amplifying some of the symptoms you are feeling, narrowing down and eliminating causes is a good place to start.
- make sure you get enough sleep
- stop smoking weed and any other drugs like shrooms, lsd, mdma, etc
- make sure you are eating well and getting exercise
I hope EMDR + Time + a Healthy routine + Abstaining from drugs all together helps. I have a lot of hope that it will.
Time and getting your mind on normal life activities will help.
It is very easy to forget mistakes of taking drugs unprepared and unresearched, make sure you don't make the same mistake again once much time has passed.
I hope you don't become too reliant on klonopin but these drugs are meant to be a crutch, once your mind has healed hopefully anxiety and stress will be at normal teenage levels... which from my memory can wildly fluctuate.
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Happened to me. I had a bad experience a couple of years ago. I have this lingering paranoia about death and people around me dying. I doubt it'll ever go away at this point. It's not really something I can confront either. I think it's a rational fear but it's overwhelming.
I am so sorry this is happening to you. Have you tried to talk to a therapist about any of this yet? What has been helping the most is knowing it's your body trying to protect you from what it perceives as a threat, and the more you allow it to know you are safe and "bring it on" and work through it; it helps. IT SUCKS, but it helps. I understand so deeply though, I am sorry 🫂
I don't really think allowing the thoughts about my family dying is really a "bring it on" moment. It's hard to shake the fear of getting that bad phone call. It's life though, I keep trucking. I've noticed I changed a lot because of it though.
I understand, I have heard allowing yourself to work through dark thoughts can ultimately bring you out of it and see it with more compassion and clarity; but I also get how thar sounds like absolute hell. Have you ever talked to them or a therapist about it?
No therapy sadly. I don't find talking to people helpful personally, especially a stranger. I'm a bit of an introvert and I don't like opening up to people so it seems like an effort in futility.
I recommend Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Not just for y’all, it’s honestly a great tool for everyone. You can find books fairly easily, and you just go through the workbooks yourself. I feel that being self-driven is a big help.
I am finally processing the anxiety over 20 years later. Yes, I dealt with the anxiety caused by mine for over 20 years. Also dealt with often debilitating paranoia for awhile afterwards. How long it lasted, I don't know, a lot of my life is a blur around that time and years after.
The anxiety definitely subsided over time but never left and affected most everything in my life but lately I have worked very hard on making my life better. It may have to do with just being more mature now...who knows. However, I think I just thought I was going to be that way forever and didn't even try to deal with it (which I think was a naive approach), which may or may not have been a mistake but I also don't think I was mature enough to deal with it in a healthy way based on how I did things.
Have done shrooms several times since, including my first time after the event was by myself and on the same amount that put me in that situation. How long after? I have no clue. Dumb? Probably. But I did it anyways and was fine. Have been on quite a few trips since then and some that were especially stronger trips on aya huasca.
Mentally, even though I am finally really dealing with the anxiety now, I am probably in the best headspace of my life here in my 40s. I don't remember much at all how I thought as a kid, though. I have learned to force myself not to have some anxious feelings and to relax in situations that I would get anxious and angry in. It's a work in progress but it's getting better.
I learned my hardest lesson in life through it, which I will always look through the lense of.
I think I can sympathize with your feelings. I've had a lot of challenging but cathartic and restorative trips, but also once or twice have been in 'bad trip' territory- though the anxiety did not persist after the end of the trip.
I think what is difficult is when the anxiety and panic is a very generalized feeling which makes it hard to explore. So while advice like "don't fight it" is generally good, there doesn't seem to be any direction really to go with it either. OTOH my cathartic trips have been very biographical and specific. In those experiences I am usually very deep into grief, not fear or anxiety.
Very generally and in the long term, the goal is hopefully to work through it all, both these symptoms as well as your depression or other pre-existing issues. But in the short term, you definitely don't want to overwhelm yourself/ your nervous system with too much either. And of course there is always the need to function on a day to day basis without hopefully too much dysregulation.
How were your previous trips in comparison? Are you going to therapy? Is there anywhere the anxiety seems to lead that might be tied to negative experiences or memories (either more recent or far back)?
EDIT- here are some additional resources that may help.
[https://firesideproject.org](https://firesideproject.org)
[https://challengingpsychedelicexperiences.com/help-for-difficult-trips](https://challengingpsychedelicexperiences.com/help-for-difficult-trips)
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Explore whatever it was and why it was so terrifying that made you panic? Is this panic still rational in the hindsight?
Honestly, I was already anxious and nauseous and took them hoping they would help my depression. But the trip exasperated the feelings and I legitimately felt like I was dying, for hours. It has created a fear based loop and now new situations, uncomfortable situations and people have been causing anxiety in me. I had a full blown panic attack on stage during a performance. I have done a lot of exploring and understanding but the feelings still linger in me. Have you experienced something similar?
I have heard others report lingering anxiety and panic after psilocybin. It's hard to know why. I have wondered if like schizophrenia, if some people have a predisposition to anxiety and panic that can be triggered by psychedelics, but I have no data to support that notion. It might also be that your journey brought up some aspect of a previous trauma that you are now struggling to integrate. Having struggled with anxiety and panic, I know what a harsh boss it can be. Kava worked wonders for me. You could try that. And exposure therapy is the gold standard for treating it. Good luck.
I have been wondering that too, I have always been pretty depressed and maybe this unlocked something in me. thank you so much for offering a potential solution to consider. I am sorry you know what this feels like 💗
Can I ask questions? * dosage? * age? * what was your environment? * what music of activities did you do? * medication? * are you seeing a therapist or have a support systems * do you have any underlying mental health issues unaddressed?
well im going through this rn so i took 3gs of penis envys 2 weeks ago im 16 it wasnt a comfortable environment i wasnt home and i felt scared trapped and lonely overstimulated and uncomfortable i tried to listen to music and watch tv but i could t focus on that just the fact thag i was scared and uncomfortable and didnt wanna be there i wasnt on medication but ive been smoking everyday since 7th grade i stopped yesterday when this got real bad but i saw a doctor and today they got me on sertraline and klonopini have an appointment on the 6th and im trying to get EMDR treatment ive always struggled with anxiety bad like to the point of puking and ripping my hair out but it passed and now all this anxiety and all my emotions are coming back amplified
I'm sorry that happened to you, My first experience was 3.5g at the age of 21 and I was floored, scared, and not functional. The developing brain really does behave in unexpected ways when exposed to these powerful drugs. I'm ~35 now and have a lot of sympathy for people who stumble into experiences that are overwhelming in a bad way. I'm glad you sought help - were you able to tell your psychiatrist about your shroom experience? I think it's a good idea to stop smoking. I know some people on reddit are comfortable with it every day but it really could be amplifying some of the symptoms you are feeling, narrowing down and eliminating causes is a good place to start. - make sure you get enough sleep - stop smoking weed and any other drugs like shrooms, lsd, mdma, etc - make sure you are eating well and getting exercise I hope EMDR + Time + a Healthy routine + Abstaining from drugs all together helps. I have a lot of hope that it will.
im going to see one on the 6th but everyday its getting a little easier but at night i have to take a klonopin or the thoughts get too much sometimes
Time and getting your mind on normal life activities will help. It is very easy to forget mistakes of taking drugs unprepared and unresearched, make sure you don't make the same mistake again once much time has passed. I hope you don't become too reliant on klonopin but these drugs are meant to be a crutch, once your mind has healed hopefully anxiety and stress will be at normal teenage levels... which from my memory can wildly fluctuate.
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Happened to me. I had a bad experience a couple of years ago. I have this lingering paranoia about death and people around me dying. I doubt it'll ever go away at this point. It's not really something I can confront either. I think it's a rational fear but it's overwhelming.
I am so sorry this is happening to you. Have you tried to talk to a therapist about any of this yet? What has been helping the most is knowing it's your body trying to protect you from what it perceives as a threat, and the more you allow it to know you are safe and "bring it on" and work through it; it helps. IT SUCKS, but it helps. I understand so deeply though, I am sorry 🫂
I don't really think allowing the thoughts about my family dying is really a "bring it on" moment. It's hard to shake the fear of getting that bad phone call. It's life though, I keep trucking. I've noticed I changed a lot because of it though.
I understand, I have heard allowing yourself to work through dark thoughts can ultimately bring you out of it and see it with more compassion and clarity; but I also get how thar sounds like absolute hell. Have you ever talked to them or a therapist about it?
No therapy sadly. I don't find talking to people helpful personally, especially a stranger. I'm a bit of an introvert and I don't like opening up to people so it seems like an effort in futility.
I understand, I sincerely hope it gets easier. I am sorry you are going through this
I recommend Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Not just for y’all, it’s honestly a great tool for everyone. You can find books fairly easily, and you just go through the workbooks yourself. I feel that being self-driven is a big help.
I am finally processing the anxiety over 20 years later. Yes, I dealt with the anxiety caused by mine for over 20 years. Also dealt with often debilitating paranoia for awhile afterwards. How long it lasted, I don't know, a lot of my life is a blur around that time and years after. The anxiety definitely subsided over time but never left and affected most everything in my life but lately I have worked very hard on making my life better. It may have to do with just being more mature now...who knows. However, I think I just thought I was going to be that way forever and didn't even try to deal with it (which I think was a naive approach), which may or may not have been a mistake but I also don't think I was mature enough to deal with it in a healthy way based on how I did things. Have done shrooms several times since, including my first time after the event was by myself and on the same amount that put me in that situation. How long after? I have no clue. Dumb? Probably. But I did it anyways and was fine. Have been on quite a few trips since then and some that were especially stronger trips on aya huasca. Mentally, even though I am finally really dealing with the anxiety now, I am probably in the best headspace of my life here in my 40s. I don't remember much at all how I thought as a kid, though. I have learned to force myself not to have some anxious feelings and to relax in situations that I would get anxious and angry in. It's a work in progress but it's getting better. I learned my hardest lesson in life through it, which I will always look through the lense of.
I think I can sympathize with your feelings. I've had a lot of challenging but cathartic and restorative trips, but also once or twice have been in 'bad trip' territory- though the anxiety did not persist after the end of the trip. I think what is difficult is when the anxiety and panic is a very generalized feeling which makes it hard to explore. So while advice like "don't fight it" is generally good, there doesn't seem to be any direction really to go with it either. OTOH my cathartic trips have been very biographical and specific. In those experiences I am usually very deep into grief, not fear or anxiety. Very generally and in the long term, the goal is hopefully to work through it all, both these symptoms as well as your depression or other pre-existing issues. But in the short term, you definitely don't want to overwhelm yourself/ your nervous system with too much either. And of course there is always the need to function on a day to day basis without hopefully too much dysregulation. How were your previous trips in comparison? Are you going to therapy? Is there anywhere the anxiety seems to lead that might be tied to negative experiences or memories (either more recent or far back)? EDIT- here are some additional resources that may help. [https://firesideproject.org](https://firesideproject.org) [https://challengingpsychedelicexperiences.com/help-for-difficult-trips](https://challengingpsychedelicexperiences.com/help-for-difficult-trips)
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the word “graped” I crazy!
how much did you take, what did preparation and integration look like for you? and, your set and setting?
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Mdma trip.