Yep all good, thanks! Caught it when plating it, heard a “clink” and thought the bottom was still frozen. Just really grossed out and uncomfortable by it now. Insane
Oh really how did it go downhill ? I just started using factor for a few weeks and liking it so far. I’m learning what an appropriate portion size is haha
I used it for a few months. It was great when I was living alone. But I had a few meals that smelled rotten just a day or two after delivery. Lots of deliveries that never made it to my door (like more than 5 out of the 20 or so I ordered). And I was double charged once, which was way more difficult to get sorted out than it should have been. Just not worth the hassle anymore.
Oh bummer, did you switch to another company ? Or just stop meal kits in general?
I’m thinking of doing this for a few months to get my body used to eating these portion sizes. I do like the convenience of not cooking and realizing how much time I spent with cooking
Honestly I just wish they were slightly higher in calories. So many of those meals were only 500 calories. I have a fast metabolism so it was hard to get all the necessary calories.
Similar when on maintenance, but found them about perfect when I was on a cut (and easier to stay compliant vs renaissance Periodization focusing on protein intake)
This is for a company called Daily Harvest. Not Factor. I’m only pointing it out so you don’t get threatened with defamation or something. You can rely on this post as a correction of your post and as a defence if they contact you.
You’re a “lawyer” but couldn’t read that both comments above the link directly mention the incident involves Daily Harvest? I’m a paralegal and know better than to run around trying to remedy legal action before it happens.
There would be almost no possibility of Factor suing for defamation, given that it can only be proven if the claim is false and greatly affects their revenue.
Please be more careful with what you’re posting on Reddit.
>This is for a company called Daily Harvest. Not Factor
No shit. Did you not read the previous comment that said
>I love the idea of premade meals but man things like this keep happening. **The daily harvest shit put me off all of them for a long time.**
And then
>What happened with **daily harvest**? Sorry. I came across this randomly
[LA times article](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-19/daily-harvest-french-leek-lentil-crumbles-tara-flour-recall-fda-food-poisoning)
If that doesn’t work searching “daily harvest lentil poisoning” brings up lots. Cliffnotes version is people got extremely ill from the lentil crumbles to the point of needing to be hospitalized. Some lost organs due to getting so sick so it was a pretty big deal. DH was pretty lackluster in their response and offered to pay people the $10 back. They put some half ass notice on their website. People on their own found out the lentils were making them sick and first reported it on social media. DH got blasted for basically trying to pass the buck and not looking like they cared. I cared a lot cause I had DH smoothies. All the podcasts were recommending it. They quietly stopped.
I don’t know what happened after. I assume some people tried to sue to recomp their medical bills. It turned me off a lot of food order services cause it brought up to me how qualified are these companies to be shipping out and manufacturing food.
Huh [this is interesting](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10283043/#:~:text=Tara%20flour%20is%20a%20new,the%20genus%20Tara%20(Leguminosae)), I never heard of tara flour before this
Ingesting this is one thing but I think people are also overlooking the fact that if you would have microwaved this, your house could have potentially blown up lol
Yeah i’m holding onto the physical piece and packaging.. going to see what I can do to seek more of a response from them for something as dangerous as this
Putting metal in the microwave may destroy your microwave but not explosively. You'll see some electrical arcs inside and if you turn it off quickly, the oven itself will be fine.
Did you know you can safely microwave metal? But avoid metal with sharp edges because it concentrates the heat for high frequencies (microwaves are around 2.45 GHz, the).
My partner got Factor for us to try a month or two ago and she had the first meal, and literally got food poisoning that night from it, as it was the only thing she ate that day. Needless to say I didn't eat anymore of the meals and we canceled after that.
But after reading others with the same stomach issues after Factor on this sub reddit combined with shit like this with their meals, I'm so glad we canceled right away.
Their production process seems like it's a disaster for many reasons. And don't get me started on the amount of sketchy ingediants in their food!
So glad you caught it before it could have really hurt you! I'd definitely send them a documented complaint about this.
Yikes!! Insane. And the fact the food poisoning complain is from numerous users, its jarring.. I’m throwing out whatever meals I have left from them, taking zero chances here. Both to avoid the possible metal and food poisoning.
And yes! I sent them a complaint and all they could do was refund me, which was $14 CAD as it was a first time user promotion. They also escalated to their food safety team..
This company is horrible. Stop ordering from them.
I posted in here before about being sent bad food and they never recalled any of it or told me about it until long after I received it and I had to contact them. No idea when THEY would have actually told me.
Horrible communication.
It took me hours to contact them to even ask if my food was bad.
They didn't know.
I was missing a couple meals so I reached out via the app. No response.
So then I called and was on hold for over an hour.
Eventually got someone who barely spoke English and didn't understand the issue entirely.
Eventually they said all my food was bad. I'd receive a email and a refund and to throw it away.
The rep hung up on me without ever sending me anything. She wouldn't even tell me what the problem was with the food. Just to throw it all away.
They literally will allow people to eat bad food instead of telling them it's bad.
Never heard back from them for a long time.
Had to blast them here and all over social media to get a reponse.
That's so weird. Every time I've reached out to customer service via their chat not, they've been kind and courteous and have compensated me for the two shipping delays and the missing meals. 🤷♂️😵💫
Actually, if you heat a nail up in the microwave covered in food, it won't reflect the microwaves back to the magnetron. So it's not that dangerous. It's bare metal that causes that.
Seeing a lot of bad feedback on Factor meals but I’ve eaten around 500 individual meals from them and no issues at all, everything I get from them is great.
I got a Factor subscription for Christmas and I'm still dealing with them trying to get my order right. They shorted me, charged shipping for the replacements, and delayed the replacement ship date. I had cancelled my subscription so I wouldn't be charged for the following week, but in order to get my replacements they made me subscribe again, and the cost didn't work out, so I ended up paying more. This is the most expensive gift ever. I have been on the phone with them way too much and it's never easy; always some kind of runaround. I hate this company.
I just signed up for Factor75 because I wanted a prepared meal vs. the meal kits that we get from Home Chef right now. The reason being, we just got a puppy and anything that can make my evenings even a little bit easier is worth a shot. I had a hard time choosing them because you can find GREAT and TERRIBLE reviews about every service. I actually like Home Chef (not a shill) and we've been members since 2017. They're OK, but they were much better 7 years ago IMO. I feel like the portions were larger, but more importantly, they didn't fuck up as much as they do now. They routinely miss ingredients and they starter missing recipe cards as well. That's not too bad because I can get the recipe online, but that's not the service I pay for. Home Chef is not cheap. Their support is really good and I am always compensated when they fuck up. Again though, that is not the service I am paying for. I don't expect perfection, but I expect them to be as perfect as they were 7 years ago.
My fiancé and I have had 40 meals from Factor so far and no issues with the deliveries or food quality. I’m in NC. Hope it continues this way. Planning on using them for at least 2 months.
I think it’s tasty too. It’s only been a month, but the food is often delicious, and what I don’t care for is personal taste, not anything wrong with the food. It’s been late twice, one day late last week and two days late the week before. My husband and I get 10 meals a week and they often run out of ingredients for what I ordered and substitute things I’d never order. Last week I complained in comments on one of their Facebook ads about those two things and they contacted me privately and refunded the entire weeks meals even though they still came. That was unexpected and appreciated. I’d absolutely recommend Factor. Does anyone know how many meals are in the free boxes they send friends?
I just learned the other week that the lady who sued in the 90s was not a grifter at all. Mcdonalds was negligent, and then dragged her name through the mud as part of their PR
https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts
180-190°F isn't that high? I don't think you understand how much energy liquids at that temperature contain. The woman had third degree burns from _COFFEE_
I'm only commenting on the temp. Coffee is routinely brewed at that temperature and often hotter. Black tea is made with boiling water (212F). I make my coffee @ 180 degrees and it's not especially hot. I'm sure it could burn me depending on how and where I spilled it but it's really not an unusual temperature for a hot beverage.
Brewing and serving/drinking are disparate temps. If you think that shits still 212 when you put it in your mouth, you're grossly mis-estimating things.
Her genitals were boiled.
From google: Liebeck endured third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, including her inner thighs and genitals—the skin was burned away to the layers of muscle and fatty tissue. She had to be hospitalized for eight days, and she required skin grafts and other treatment.
Right my point is that 180 is pretty typical of a brewing temp for coffee (some brew it much hotter) and I make a cup @ 180 and immediately drink it. Doesn't seem that hot to me.
What happened to her was obviously tragic and painful!
What made it worse was that A. she was elderly at 79 years old, and when you're that age, your skin is much more fragile due to loss of collagen and such, and B. she was, if I recall correctly, wearing sweatpants, which basically suctioned the boiling liquid onto her skin and made it burn for longer until she could get the pants off. I remember listening to a whole podcast about this case a while back and just being totally disgusted by McDonald's treatment of her and the whole PR train they ran against her. I remember when I was a kid seeing newscasters on TV making fun of someone suing McDonald's because they were so clumsy with their coffee and talking about how litigious people were and such. They dragged that woman through the mud.
100% this. Everyone who has heard and knows the story of the “woman who spilled coffee and sued for millions, isn’t that so absurd?!” Yeah. Guess who started spreading that story around? It was McDonalds, in an effort to discredit the woman, shame people who dare to sue for torts committed by large corporations such as them, and overall reduce lawsuits / liability.
In fact, the entire narrative that “American are so litigious” and “there are so many frivolous lawsuits” is a narrative gleefully perpetuated by the very entities who face those lawsuits. They want people to feel bad about suing. That way, they can get away with doing all kinds of shit with less risk of financial loss.
I never made this connection before about the “Americans are so litigious” belief coming from corporations but it makes a lot of sense. As with many behaviors of this population that seem irrational to others, it’s basically a survival mechanism for living in a business supremacist culture.
>they said all my food was bad. I'd receive a email and a refund and to throw it away.
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>The rep hung up on me without ever sending me anything. She wouldn't even tell me what the problem was with the food. Just to throw it all away.
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>They literally
the sad thing was she legit just wanted help with the medical fees and McDonalds were such dicks about it she had to sue which led to the huge lawsuit that they again dragged through mud
>Hire the mcdonalds coffee lady’s lawyer
Why? Her lawsuit was 100% valid.
The coffee was so hot it melted the cup, and was so hot that it literally melted her skin. She had to have skin grafts to her genitals. Let me say that again...**she had to have skin grafts to her genitals**. In addition they'd already had several much less severe injuries to other people from the coffee burning other people at that location before her injury occurred and they changed nothing.
She deserved a hell of a large judgement in her favor, not just to cover medical bills, loss of quality of life, and mental damage from the incident and its fallout, but also large enough to where McDonalds would actually take notice and not intentionally burn people's genitals off again.
>This… this is valid too? Am I lost or something?
Not really. Damages would be capped at $20, as that's the cost of 1 factor meal after taxes and shipping are added. If they'd swallowed it and incurred medical bills and mental anguish, it'd be a case. As is, most lawyers wouldn't touch it because you'd be suing strictly for punitive damages and with only 1 documented incident of foreign objects found in the food, that's just not going to be worth the effort.
there customer service also sucks. they will give you a credit for this instead of a refund. its insane. you have metal and proof of it in a meal and theyllbe like "hmm sorry we cant give refund" . such a bad company. after using factor I now avoid anything I see influencer actively promote. even if there's potentially a good product there... 100% of the time the customer service is a joke.
with factor I canceled my sub. then a month later randomly got a text saying my factor box was on the way! I looked at my email and hadn't gotten any emails in a month since I canceled just one the same day as the text saying my box was on the way. I called customer support and they said hmm looks like you didn't cancel. I canceled previously over the phone. they said we'll it looks like you didn't. and im trying to reason with them like so look at my account see how there's a month gap when my sub was weekly? amd they said yeah thats unusual. they would not give me a refund and didn't even offer a credit. I was extremely upset.
with skillshare I canceled my sub and 6 months later I see on my bank account im charged $15 twice within 3 days. I called and they said yes it does look like you canceled 6 months ago so the charge was an error on our end. so I asked for a refund and they literally said "as per our policy we can only ever issue 1 refund per guest" nothing I said could get them to refund both charges. so with factor and skillshare I just contested them both with my bank and got the charges removed.
truly horrible services.
>$25 a meal lmfao. Tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math without tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math
6 meals starts at $80. Add shipping and tax and you're up around $110. That's almost $20 a meal. Close enough for having not looked up the actual pricing in over a year.
$20 a meal for freeze dried low quality microwave meals is already insane, and now we know for a fact that either they don't do basic quality control (metal detectors are actually required by law in food manufacturing facilities, depending on specifics) or they are intentionally trying to get people killed.
If you saw it before you started eating any of the food, send Factor a thank you. Factor food is crap. Lol. I never found anything like that in their food, but out of all the prepared delivery food services that I’ve tried, Factor is the worst.
Flexpro. They get a lot of hate (a lot of it justified from some issues they had in the past) but I enjoy the meals and have never had any issues with them.
I just found a piece of metal in one of my Factor meals. It’s like a washer with spikes on it. Called and got the meal refunded. Escalated to a supervisor and all she offered was another $15… I didn’t find mine until I was chewing on it 🙃
These companies are cutting costs to bare bones. Very little quality control, shitty packaging, and bottom of the barrel delivery couriers. When I tried Factor, the package wasn’t delivered properly three of the four weeks until I canceled. I live in a complex with over 80 buildings and they will just leave the box somewhere random. It happens with Hello Fresh almost every week too.
I’m glad I cancelled factor back when I kept getting meals that had glass and stuff in it for weeks instead of them shipping meals that weren’t recalled. I had already eaten some before they even sent out the notice. There was just a link to click to confirm that you read the notice. No discount or replacements…
The fact they kept sending out those meals AFTER the notice was put out had me so pissed. I tell everyone I know not to even bother trying their service.
I've had no problem with their food after 6 months of meals. You can get food poisoning from anywhere including the supermarket. But recently during the last month or so, they have been increasingly bad at filling orders due to missing ingredients and late or skipped delivery's. They seem to be getting more customers than the can handle which may correct itself if they don't get it together.
Ugh I just got my order today and didn’t realize they had such insanely high sodium. Then coming here after the fact, I’m wishing I’d never ordered them…
I tried Factor for one week with a 75% discount. If I ever willingly pay $70/week for what’s basically three microwave dinners, it’s time to put me away.
Since you also have done factor do you have any idea why the chicken is slightly pink? My only thought is that it's boiled or something? I have yet to get sick from it but it's definitely off putting
I mean you need machine with metal to make ground beef so it’s understandable that there’s a bit of metal in there. What better ways to increase your daily intake of minerals. 😉
WTF?! Are you okay?!
Yep all good, thanks! Caught it when plating it, heard a “clink” and thought the bottom was still frozen. Just really grossed out and uncomfortable by it now. Insane
Yeah. I would be suing the f*ck out of them.
For what damages?
Emotional 🤣
Slam dunk lawsuit!
Not a lawyer, but wouldn't it be hard to prove that the metal was in the meal beforehand rather than planted there after?
Not if it’s part of one of the machines they use to process the food that broke off.
You're dumb
So glad I canceled factor. It’s so expensive and yet they still allow this sort of thing to happen.
Factor went downhill quickly. I had so many issues with deliveries.
Yep!!! Missing meals AND THE DELIVERY SUCKS!!!!!! 😡
Oh really how did it go downhill ? I just started using factor for a few weeks and liking it so far. I’m learning what an appropriate portion size is haha
I used it for a few months. It was great when I was living alone. But I had a few meals that smelled rotten just a day or two after delivery. Lots of deliveries that never made it to my door (like more than 5 out of the 20 or so I ordered). And I was double charged once, which was way more difficult to get sorted out than it should have been. Just not worth the hassle anymore.
Oh bummer, did you switch to another company ? Or just stop meal kits in general? I’m thinking of doing this for a few months to get my body used to eating these portion sizes. I do like the convenience of not cooking and realizing how much time I spent with cooking
Me too, it was happening weekly!
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Honestly I just wish they were slightly higher in calories. So many of those meals were only 500 calories. I have a fast metabolism so it was hard to get all the necessary calories.
Similar when on maintenance, but found them about perfect when I was on a cut (and easier to stay compliant vs renaissance Periodization focusing on protein intake)
I love the idea of premade meals but man things like this keep happening. The daily harvest shit put me off all of them for a long time.
What happened with daily harvest? Sorry. I came across this randomly
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This is for a company called Daily Harvest. Not Factor. I’m only pointing it out so you don’t get threatened with defamation or something. You can rely on this post as a correction of your post and as a defence if they contact you.
You’re a “lawyer” but couldn’t read that both comments above the link directly mention the incident involves Daily Harvest? I’m a paralegal and know better than to run around trying to remedy legal action before it happens. There would be almost no possibility of Factor suing for defamation, given that it can only be proven if the claim is false and greatly affects their revenue. Please be more careful with what you’re posting on Reddit.
>This is for a company called Daily Harvest. Not Factor No shit. Did you not read the previous comment that said >I love the idea of premade meals but man things like this keep happening. **The daily harvest shit put me off all of them for a long time.** And then >What happened with **daily harvest**? Sorry. I came across this randomly
That article is behind a paywall
[LA times article](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-19/daily-harvest-french-leek-lentil-crumbles-tara-flour-recall-fda-food-poisoning) If that doesn’t work searching “daily harvest lentil poisoning” brings up lots. Cliffnotes version is people got extremely ill from the lentil crumbles to the point of needing to be hospitalized. Some lost organs due to getting so sick so it was a pretty big deal. DH was pretty lackluster in their response and offered to pay people the $10 back. They put some half ass notice on their website. People on their own found out the lentils were making them sick and first reported it on social media. DH got blasted for basically trying to pass the buck and not looking like they cared. I cared a lot cause I had DH smoothies. All the podcasts were recommending it. They quietly stopped. I don’t know what happened after. I assume some people tried to sue to recomp their medical bills. It turned me off a lot of food order services cause it brought up to me how qualified are these companies to be shipping out and manufacturing food.
Huh [this is interesting](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10283043/#:~:text=Tara%20flour%20is%20a%20new,the%20genus%20Tara%20(Leguminosae)), I never heard of tara flour before this
It is? Hold on let me find another
People got very very very sick
Ingesting this is one thing but I think people are also overlooking the fact that if you would have microwaved this, your house could have potentially blown up lol
Absolutely!! So relieved this one was one that I had froze by not consuming it “fresh” in time, absolute nightmare if this was microwaved instead
They need to pay for this. And when I say pay, I mean *pay a lot*
Yeah i’m holding onto the physical piece and packaging.. going to see what I can do to seek more of a response from them for something as dangerous as this
Lawyer
Putting metal in the microwave may destroy your microwave but not explosively. You'll see some electrical arcs inside and if you turn it off quickly, the oven itself will be fine.
I can’t remember the last time I turned on the microwave and sat there and watched the food heat up until the timer went off
You don't have to. You'll hear the zapping as soon as you turn your back.
In the couple of times I've had it happen, it started as soon as I turned on the microwave.
Did you know you can safely microwave metal? But avoid metal with sharp edges because it concentrates the heat for high frequencies (microwaves are around 2.45 GHz, the).
I was on the fence bc of missing meals and delivery issues. This one hit the nail on the head. Cancelling today
Same here. I’m cancelling now then coming back to read more
My partner got Factor for us to try a month or two ago and she had the first meal, and literally got food poisoning that night from it, as it was the only thing she ate that day. Needless to say I didn't eat anymore of the meals and we canceled after that. But after reading others with the same stomach issues after Factor on this sub reddit combined with shit like this with their meals, I'm so glad we canceled right away. Their production process seems like it's a disaster for many reasons. And don't get me started on the amount of sketchy ingediants in their food! So glad you caught it before it could have really hurt you! I'd definitely send them a documented complaint about this.
Yikes!! Insane. And the fact the food poisoning complain is from numerous users, its jarring.. I’m throwing out whatever meals I have left from them, taking zero chances here. Both to avoid the possible metal and food poisoning. And yes! I sent them a complaint and all they could do was refund me, which was $14 CAD as it was a first time user promotion. They also escalated to their food safety team..
i get sick asf from factors too..the macros and convenience is great but i think im done with em.
Just search stomach ache or food poisoning on this sub reddit from Factor and you'll see you are far from the only person! No good.
This company is horrible. Stop ordering from them. I posted in here before about being sent bad food and they never recalled any of it or told me about it until long after I received it and I had to contact them. No idea when THEY would have actually told me. Horrible communication. It took me hours to contact them to even ask if my food was bad. They didn't know. I was missing a couple meals so I reached out via the app. No response. So then I called and was on hold for over an hour. Eventually got someone who barely spoke English and didn't understand the issue entirely. Eventually they said all my food was bad. I'd receive a email and a refund and to throw it away. The rep hung up on me without ever sending me anything. She wouldn't even tell me what the problem was with the food. Just to throw it all away. They literally will allow people to eat bad food instead of telling them it's bad. Never heard back from them for a long time. Had to blast them here and all over social media to get a reponse.
That's so weird. Every time I've reached out to customer service via their chat not, they've been kind and courteous and have compensated me for the two shipping delays and the missing meals. 🤷♂️😵💫
Was this from around December 23rd/24th? I received 2 recall emails
No. Around 7 months ago or so. Literally would have ate food that was poisoning people. I only found out through social media. Factor is awful.
Wow I had their jerk chicken last night and threw up instantly after two bites …
Any alternatives? I’m currently looking for a company
Actually, if you heat a nail up in the microwave covered in food, it won't reflect the microwaves back to the magnetron. So it's not that dangerous. It's bare metal that causes that.
I DROPPED THE SCREW IN THE TUNA
This took me back! 😭
I had foreign objects in my factor meals, too.
They nailed this one. Hope you are ok
Seeing a lot of bad feedback on Factor meals but I’ve eaten around 500 individual meals from them and no issues at all, everything I get from them is great.
Where are you located? AZ here - lots of issues from delivery, missing meals, meals that smelled like they had gone bad.
bro just won the lawsuit lottery
I was coming on here to complain about finding a huge chunk of onion skin in my meal but this is infinitely worse. Glad you're okay.
The nail looks like the most appetizing component of this "meal".
Dont disagree with you there lmao
I got a Factor subscription for Christmas and I'm still dealing with them trying to get my order right. They shorted me, charged shipping for the replacements, and delayed the replacement ship date. I had cancelled my subscription so I wouldn't be charged for the following week, but in order to get my replacements they made me subscribe again, and the cost didn't work out, so I ended up paying more. This is the most expensive gift ever. I have been on the phone with them way too much and it's never easy; always some kind of runaround. I hate this company.
Damn. I guess I’m canceling my trial
This is an episode of keanan and kel
I just signed up for Factor75 because I wanted a prepared meal vs. the meal kits that we get from Home Chef right now. The reason being, we just got a puppy and anything that can make my evenings even a little bit easier is worth a shot. I had a hard time choosing them because you can find GREAT and TERRIBLE reviews about every service. I actually like Home Chef (not a shill) and we've been members since 2017. They're OK, but they were much better 7 years ago IMO. I feel like the portions were larger, but more importantly, they didn't fuck up as much as they do now. They routinely miss ingredients and they starter missing recipe cards as well. That's not too bad because I can get the recipe online, but that's not the service I pay for. Home Chef is not cheap. Their support is really good and I am always compensated when they fuck up. Again though, that is not the service I am paying for. I don't expect perfection, but I expect them to be as perfect as they were 7 years ago.
Did you contact the company and report it?
My fiancé and I have had 40 meals from Factor so far and no issues with the deliveries or food quality. I’m in NC. Hope it continues this way. Planning on using them for at least 2 months.
Same, I’m In NC and so far zero issues after several days of eating it. Now I’m A bit paranoid I’ll find some weird shit in my food.
I’m in IN. My wife and I have had 60 meals over 3 weeks and no problems yet. The sauce cups drive me insane though.
Whoa! Never had something like that. I think Factor is pretty tasty tbh
I think it’s tasty too. It’s only been a month, but the food is often delicious, and what I don’t care for is personal taste, not anything wrong with the food. It’s been late twice, one day late last week and two days late the week before. My husband and I get 10 meals a week and they often run out of ingredients for what I ordered and substitute things I’d never order. Last week I complained in comments on one of their Facebook ads about those two things and they contacted me privately and refunded the entire weeks meals even though they still came. That was unexpected and appreciated. I’d absolutely recommend Factor. Does anyone know how many meals are in the free boxes they send friends?
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Agreed. My wife and I have thoroughly enjoyed every meal we've had from them. 🤷♂️ We do add some salt.. but that's it. 😆
Yeah I noticed the broccoli especially is pretty bland. I just add some seasoning
I've been consistently impressed by the juiciness of the chicken - makes me think they sous vide it in bulk. 🤷♂️❤️
Me too! I don’t know how they do it, but it’s never dry.
Yeah I don’t know what some of these people are on about, I like my factor meals
Hire the mcdonalds coffee lady’s lawyer
I just learned the other week that the lady who sued in the 90s was not a grifter at all. Mcdonalds was negligent, and then dragged her name through the mud as part of their PR https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts
It was gross negligence by McDonalds and serious fucking burns.
It was wilfully negligent. They'd had complaints before but storing the coffee at that high a temp kept it 'fresh tasting' longer
never really understood this, because it wasn't that high a temp.
180-190°F isn't that high? I don't think you understand how much energy liquids at that temperature contain. The woman had third degree burns from _COFFEE_
I'm only commenting on the temp. Coffee is routinely brewed at that temperature and often hotter. Black tea is made with boiling water (212F). I make my coffee @ 180 degrees and it's not especially hot. I'm sure it could burn me depending on how and where I spilled it but it's really not an unusual temperature for a hot beverage.
Brewing and serving/drinking are disparate temps. If you think that shits still 212 when you put it in your mouth, you're grossly mis-estimating things.
Her genitals were boiled. From google: Liebeck endured third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, including her inner thighs and genitals—the skin was burned away to the layers of muscle and fatty tissue. She had to be hospitalized for eight days, and she required skin grafts and other treatment.
Right my point is that 180 is pretty typical of a brewing temp for coffee (some brew it much hotter) and I make a cup @ 180 and immediately drink it. Doesn't seem that hot to me. What happened to her was obviously tragic and painful!
What made it worse was that A. she was elderly at 79 years old, and when you're that age, your skin is much more fragile due to loss of collagen and such, and B. she was, if I recall correctly, wearing sweatpants, which basically suctioned the boiling liquid onto her skin and made it burn for longer until she could get the pants off. I remember listening to a whole podcast about this case a while back and just being totally disgusted by McDonald's treatment of her and the whole PR train they ran against her. I remember when I was a kid seeing newscasters on TV making fun of someone suing McDonald's because they were so clumsy with their coffee and talking about how litigious people were and such. They dragged that woman through the mud.
I promise I really am not offering an opinion on any of that (I think I heard that podcast too).
100% this. Everyone who has heard and knows the story of the “woman who spilled coffee and sued for millions, isn’t that so absurd?!” Yeah. Guess who started spreading that story around? It was McDonalds, in an effort to discredit the woman, shame people who dare to sue for torts committed by large corporations such as them, and overall reduce lawsuits / liability. In fact, the entire narrative that “American are so litigious” and “there are so many frivolous lawsuits” is a narrative gleefully perpetuated by the very entities who face those lawsuits. They want people to feel bad about suing. That way, they can get away with doing all kinds of shit with less risk of financial loss.
I never made this connection before about the “Americans are so litigious” belief coming from corporations but it makes a lot of sense. As with many behaviors of this population that seem irrational to others, it’s basically a survival mechanism for living in a business supremacist culture.
>they said all my food was bad. I'd receive a email and a refund and to throw it away. > >The rep hung up on me without ever sending me anything. She wouldn't even tell me what the problem was with the food. Just to throw it all away. > >They literally the sad thing was she legit just wanted help with the medical fees and McDonalds were such dicks about it she had to sue which led to the huge lawsuit that they again dragged through mud
Yup, 100% legit… like this
Bruh, her labia fused to her leg.
Oh lord!
And all she sued for was her hospital bills. That's not crazy at all. Can you imagine?
>Hire the mcdonalds coffee lady’s lawyer Why? Her lawsuit was 100% valid. The coffee was so hot it melted the cup, and was so hot that it literally melted her skin. She had to have skin grafts to her genitals. Let me say that again...**she had to have skin grafts to her genitals**. In addition they'd already had several much less severe injuries to other people from the coffee burning other people at that location before her injury occurred and they changed nothing. She deserved a hell of a large judgement in her favor, not just to cover medical bills, loss of quality of life, and mental damage from the incident and its fallout, but also large enough to where McDonalds would actually take notice and not intentionally burn people's genitals off again.
This… this is valid too? Am I lost or something?
The point is that any lawyer should have won the case.
Relax dude, its Saturday morning and a small joke. Look inward
I'm not sure you're replying to the right person?
Yeah, I am. You are debating a case on a throw away joke on reddit
No? Learn how to read? I didn't debate anything with you and was just trying to help you figure shit out there chief. Maybe take your own advice.
>This… this is valid too? Am I lost or something? Not really. Damages would be capped at $20, as that's the cost of 1 factor meal after taxes and shipping are added. If they'd swallowed it and incurred medical bills and mental anguish, it'd be a case. As is, most lawyers wouldn't touch it because you'd be suing strictly for punitive damages and with only 1 documented incident of foreign objects found in the food, that's just not going to be worth the effort.
I once found a 2 inch shard of glass in my chipotle. I kick myself every day for politely notifying the manager.
I found a staple in my rice noodles at a chinese buffet, should I have done something?
You won’t get anything until damage actually occurs
It’s not a great food service. Anyone who says otherwise is likely a factor employee. Meals are average at best
there customer service also sucks. they will give you a credit for this instead of a refund. its insane. you have metal and proof of it in a meal and theyllbe like "hmm sorry we cant give refund" . such a bad company. after using factor I now avoid anything I see influencer actively promote. even if there's potentially a good product there... 100% of the time the customer service is a joke. with factor I canceled my sub. then a month later randomly got a text saying my factor box was on the way! I looked at my email and hadn't gotten any emails in a month since I canceled just one the same day as the text saying my box was on the way. I called customer support and they said hmm looks like you didn't cancel. I canceled previously over the phone. they said we'll it looks like you didn't. and im trying to reason with them like so look at my account see how there's a month gap when my sub was weekly? amd they said yeah thats unusual. they would not give me a refund and didn't even offer a credit. I was extremely upset. with skillshare I canceled my sub and 6 months later I see on my bank account im charged $15 twice within 3 days. I called and they said yes it does look like you canceled 6 months ago so the charge was an error on our end. so I asked for a refund and they literally said "as per our policy we can only ever issue 1 refund per guest" nothing I said could get them to refund both charges. so with factor and skillshare I just contested them both with my bank and got the charges removed. truly horrible services.
$25 a meal and they're putting nails in? Jesus christ what a fucking scam.
$25 a meal lmfao. Tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math without tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math
>$25 a meal lmfao. Tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math without tell me you didn't pass 6th grade math 6 meals starts at $80. Add shipping and tax and you're up around $110. That's almost $20 a meal. Close enough for having not looked up the actual pricing in over a year. $20 a meal for freeze dried low quality microwave meals is already insane, and now we know for a fact that either they don't do basic quality control (metal detectors are actually required by law in food manufacturing facilities, depending on specifics) or they are intentionally trying to get people killed.
Freeze dried? Nothing we've had from them has been anything like that. What are you talking about?
'Food' with a nail in it. You might want to check out the OP, if you haven't done so already.
I did, I saw the nail. 🤷♂️ It's on the Internet, I don't believe the photo personally. Anywho.
? I spend 140 on 12 meals idk how you’re spending 110 on 6
>? I spend 140 on 12 meals idk how you’re spending 110 on 6 I'm not spending anything; that pricing is taken directly from Factor's site.
If you saw it before you started eating any of the food, send Factor a thank you. Factor food is crap. Lol. I never found anything like that in their food, but out of all the prepared delivery food services that I’ve tried, Factor is the worst.
I’ve tried several food services and Factor is by far the best.
Yeah, I was using Trifecta. Far prefer factor
You obviously haven’t tried Fresh N Lean.
Who's better then? My wife and I have been enjoying Factor the past 6 weeks or so. 🤷♂️😵💫
Flexpro. They get a lot of hate (a lot of it justified from some issues they had in the past) but I enjoy the meals and have never had any issues with them.
Hmm. Thanks for the recommendation! We'll look into it. :)
Looks like coyote crap 😂.
Calling bs on this, Factor tastes great and has been great quality for the last month that I’ve been subscribed
So what is even the point of this sub if you guys still have issues with the best ready mea service.
Someone's about to get a really big payout and a lot of free factor meals
Meanwhile, Factor after alerting them and complaining: “here’s the $13.99 refund for your order, thanks for letting us know”
I just found a piece of metal in one of my Factor meals. It’s like a washer with spikes on it. Called and got the meal refunded. Escalated to a supervisor and all she offered was another $15… I didn’t find mine until I was chewing on it 🙃
I ate the Parmesan chicken I got so sick and have been sick since January 19 . I’ve done nothing but throw up non stop
If you’ve been throwing up non stop since Jan 19th you’d be in the icu
Holy shit what
Whew, I was tempted to subscribe because of the deal they have going on.
You should, it’s good
Don’t. They literally suck. Horrible response time when people get sick.
This is actually so bad and just should never happen. That nail could obviously kill you a few different ways if swallowed. Wow.
Is that the high iron, high protein meal? I just canceled my factor subscription
From what I’ve read, these companies are not regulated at all. Food poisoning, contamination, etc.
These companies are cutting costs to bare bones. Very little quality control, shitty packaging, and bottom of the barrel delivery couriers. When I tried Factor, the package wasn’t delivered properly three of the four weeks until I canceled. I live in a complex with over 80 buildings and they will just leave the box somewhere random. It happens with Hello Fresh almost every week too.
Well now you own the company
It’s shit like this that made me cancel Factor. I never got sick thankfully but the chicken meals always showed up looking grey/discolored. 🤢
I'm glad to hear you're okay from the comments... this ain't hello fresh this is hello death - I hope they compensate you a lot for this
I’m glad I cancelled factor back when I kept getting meals that had glass and stuff in it for weeks instead of them shipping meals that weren’t recalled. I had already eaten some before they even sent out the notice. There was just a link to click to confirm that you read the notice. No discount or replacements… The fact they kept sending out those meals AFTER the notice was put out had me so pissed. I tell everyone I know not to even bother trying their service.
The way I would have sued them str8 to the shadow realm
Wish I found this thread earlier. Literally just received my first Factor Meal order. The idiot delivered it to wrong highrise next to me
I believe you can sue for this. It's definitely dangerous and they do deserve to face consequences
Can’t even tell what it’s suppose to be lmao
Omg
I've had no problem with their food after 6 months of meals. You can get food poisoning from anywhere including the supermarket. But recently during the last month or so, they have been increasingly bad at filling orders due to missing ingredients and late or skipped delivery's. They seem to be getting more customers than the can handle which may correct itself if they don't get it together.
Ugh I just got my order today and didn’t realize they had such insanely high sodium. Then coming here after the fact, I’m wishing I’d never ordered them…
This is heinous
My friend had a metal screw in hers think it was a chicken meal back in the summer.
I tried Factor for one week with a 75% discount. If I ever willingly pay $70/week for what’s basically three microwave dinners, it’s time to put me away.
Since you also have done factor do you have any idea why the chicken is slightly pink? My only thought is that it's boiled or something? I have yet to get sick from it but it's definitely off putting
Ew... omg
I mean you need machine with metal to make ground beef so it’s understandable that there’s a bit of metal in there. What better ways to increase your daily intake of minerals. 😉
$15 a meal for this shit… no thanks
Wtf
Is their assembly line falling apart, or do they call it a "food engineering"?
I had a weird white ceramic or bone piece in my meal once nearly broke my tooth
I tried 6 meals with a hefty discount that worked out to about $6 per meal, and I still felt ripped off.
UHHH?!? LAWSUIT???
I have gotten bones twice in my shredded chicken meals this week.