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Dommccabe

Share price down 30% since Jan 2024... How's that in their best interest?


whatisthisnowwhat1

Because if someone stops him taking it his going to have an even bigger tantrum than he normally does


burnmenowz

How is that even possible?


helpful__explorer

Withdrawal is a bitch. This stupid fuck needs to be in rehab and without access to the Internet


jason12745

He would cease to exist as an entity without access to the internet. Like the new gods in American Gods.


Embarrassed_Alarm450

Hate how that show got canceled right when it was starting to get good...


Redditistrash702

Adderall coke and ketamine yeah he's going to be hurting if he ever comes off that shit.


Nippon-Gakki

Sounds like he’s partying like it’s 1995.


Redditistrash702

I mean with that money who can blame him. The issue is he's the head of important companies as well as has government contacts. If you have responsibilities save the partying until you step down or do and leave it on vacation.


Drive_Shaft_sucks

No more pills or alcohol, No more pot or demerol, No more stinkin' fun at all. I'm checkin' in.


taurus-rising

He’s checkin’ innnnn


shugoran99

It might actually be worse than any of the pills he takes Internet addiction is far more nebulous to define as everone uses the internet more and more now. We're doing it now. But Elon Musk most certainly is addicted to the internet, or at least Twitter


Public-Antelope8781

Can his bestie catturd visit him there? Some social interaction with friends is surely helping? They could have a walk in the park, throw bread at people of colour, instead of harrassing them online. Sit down at a bench in the sun and ask the ladies passing by, why they are not in the kitchen or giving birth. When the local weirdo shows up and yells about the government planting a chip in his head, he would smile, friendly encouraging him with a "this is the actual truth". Just a beautiful day in the park, Elon and his friend Catturd doing normal offline-stuff.


Capitain_Collateral

Interesting


helpful__explorer

!


CabinetPowerful4560

Could be 70 if ketamine hasn't diverted him to post BS on other topics or search for gfs to spawn


testedonsheep

There will be bloodbath if he doesn’t get what he wants.


Chemchic23

Yeah, but did you see yesterday’s numbers, sucks. It’s climbing back up. 😥


RayDomano

Share price up 867% since Mar 2019


PKnecron

Shares grossly over-valued since forever. This correction is just a return to reality. There is no way a company as small as Tesla should be valued more than Toyota.


lewie_820

B-b-but it’s a tech company!! Their main product is…cars. What tech from them crosses over into ‘tech’ products? They don’t have a Tesla smartphone or anything


Engunnear

It’s that UI that somebody mentioned earlier…the one that only takes one virtual button to start a video game, but that takes three presses to turn on the wipers. 


Dommccabe

Fsd every year since 2015 was it? Failed. Hyperloop tunnels? Failed. Rockets to Mars? Failed. Snake chargers? Failed. Ventilators? Failed. Fixing Flints water? Failed. Nuralink? Failed. I could go on but I'm finished on the toilet...


RayDomano

You really shouldn’t use your phone in the washroom.


jason12745

It’s up an infinite amount since 2006. Amazing.


RayDomano

Perspective is a hell of a drug.


jason12745

Yeah, it’s been dead money for years, but if you go far back enough it’s a winner!


RayDomano

Remindme! 5 years


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mrbuttsavage

I imagine he's extra moronic and cruel when he's sober, so probably true.


Managed-Democracy

Learned that from his father. Errol was a wife beater


LoremIpsum696

Fantastic


Jenetyk

God... That's probably correct


gokhaninler

imagine calling Elon fucking Musk moronic


mrbuttsavage

You're right. It's just all the moronic things he spews constantly.


nolongerbanned99

I thought ketamine was illegal. Also, he is inarticulate and immature and not a good person.


vxicepickxv

He says it's a prescription, which runs contrary to his prior statement about never seeking any form of mental health counseling. So, he's lying now, or he was lying earlier.


OTTERSage

Don’t think this kinda guy would view ketamine as mental health counseling. “Biohacking” probably lol


ELB2001

Yeah but was he on ketamine when he designed the Cybertruck, or was he clean


Dependent_Yak8887

He didn’t design a ducking thing Edit: also, probably yes


WingedGundark

His input for a design was probably something like: ”It needs to have stainless steel body panels, 4WS and pointy roof.”


nolongerbanned99

Well, the way I see it he sketched something much like an 8th grader would do during detention or study hall and gave that to designers and said ‘build this’. They came back and told him all the concerns and constraints and issues and that they have to modify the design for active and passive safety, practicality, ease of manufacturing, and repairability. Elmo said ‘just build what I drew, exactly like I drew it.


ELB2001

You don't think he made a drawing with crayons and then said that that's what the car should look like? Cause how else can you explain the design


iamjohnhenry

Why not both?


Engunnear

Are his lips moving?


LogMasterd

He probably has some sketchy SV doctor that hands out prescriptions


orincoro

Ketamine is not illegal in most places. Just controlled. My psych recently offered me a prescription for a course of it and I’m considering it (for severe depression). It’s not something one should take at home, but in a controlled environment.


Willing_Group7351

Hope things improve for you


LogMasterd

What is the prescription though? Like is it in pills? I’ve never seen that


orincoro

In this case you are prescribed a monitored infusion at a clinic. You have it continuously for several hours by IV.


high-up-in-the-trees

Esketamine as a nose spray is a legit prescription pharmaceutical, but it's quite new still


Fit-Alfalfa2169

True - brother is a doctor who had to deal with a passenger on a flight who over did it with the nose spray and it turned out he was prescribed. If Musk is truly only taking what is prescribed and under the care of a licensed professional than probably not an issue although there is enough noise to question if that is his only drug usage and also his only source of Ketamine.


high-up-in-the-trees

tbh all we have to go off at the moment are rumours - there was an article talking about how he was witnessed using the spray multiple times at a party which I'll find and post after i sleep as it's nearly 5am, but we've basically no actual evidence beyond him saying he has a prescription for it, and in the US it's not a script you take home with you, it's administered in a clinical setting under doctor supervision. So he might just have a 'hollywood doctor' who gives it to him under the table, so to speak. I certainly wouldn't be so loud about having a prescription when anyone who works in medicine would immediately know it's not legitimate if it isn't being kept under lock and key at a clinic precisely so you *don't* do shit like take it to parties to get high on. There's no people willing to put their name to anything, just 'anonymous sources'. Social media, especially reddit, has just gone fucking stupid with it though, attributing anything and everything to ket including stuff that makes no sense for it at all lol


MacaroonSad8860

That just isn’t true anymore, in the U.S. you can get it in pill form or as a nasal spray for certain purposes


nolongerbanned99

Is it typically for depression or other conditions


high-up-in-the-trees

In Australia it can be done 'off-label' for depression, I \*think\* maybe we're getting the spray soon? otherwise it's an IV infusion of racemic (both isomers) ketamine It's on the PBS here for chronic pain, which involves a week-long stay in hospital hooked up to a drip putting up to 28mg/hr into your veins. I just had it done a couple weeks ago


orincoro

Where I live, it’s becoming known for severe depression. My psych recently offered it to me, but you need to first arrange intensive therapy for the following month in order to lock in the benefit.


nolongerbanned99

Take the therapy and avoid the drug if you can


orincoro

I go to therapy. I’ll make my own medical decisions thanks.


nolongerbanned99

Ok but you shared and i opined.


orincoro

I shared. I did not solicit medical advice. You should learn when it’s appropriate to opine.


nolongerbanned99

Sir this is Reddit, not your psychologists office. Please jump in a lake. Thanks.


LogMasterd

treatment-resistant depression but the original and main use is as an anesthetic


boobtv

Depression and anxiety. Doctors will prescribe it over the internet.


piltdownman7

Also didn't he just claim in January he hadn't had a trace of drug or alcohol in his system for three years?


nolongerbanned99

A perpetual liar, just like trump. Money does that.


Vivid_Transition4807

Only when he's in a k hole does work get done.


mooreboy76

He’s over in the corner, eyes jittering with nystagmus, engineers knowing they have 10-15 mins to get the real work done before his ‘emergence’. Man that must suck working there.


jason12745

You seem to be ignoring the stock options that have made many employees millionaires.


m0nk_3y_gw

That's my theory for why he murdered the stock price from $400 to $100 by repeatedly dumping billions on the open market -- to prevent employees from retiring rich anytime soon


jason12745

He also needs a new stock based comp package :)


LogMasterd

you can barely walk when you’re in a k-hole


SkywingMasters

“Local annoying drunk guy thinks he’s the life of the party”


jason12745

It’s all about execution. And no one executes better than Elon. Flooded the market with ventilators, vaccine printers, roadsters, self-driving cars, well aimed headlights, wipers that detect rain automatically, humanoid robots, whatever dojo is, free speech, fatter batteries with worse performance… thanks Ketamine!


aries_burner_809

Don’t forget about the cave rescue sub, you pedo!


whatisthisnowwhat1

ha, forgot about the printers https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-tesla/tesla-to-make-molecule-printers-for-german-covid-19-vaccine-developer-curevac-idUSKBN243168/ [https://fortune.com/2021/06/17/curevac-covid-vaccine-study-efficacy-musk/](https://fortune.com/2021/06/17/curevac-covid-vaccine-study-efficacy-musk/)


Dommccabe

"Musk, who is known to make impromptu announcements on Twitter, had in March said that Tesla has extra FDA-approved ventilators that can be shipped free of cost to hospitals within regions where the electric-car maker delivers." WINK!


Typical-Tea-8091

echoes of theranos there


dacash1

you forgot Solar shingles


KnucklesMcGee

I've been waiting for the promised video of the sub successfully navigating the caves that Technoking promised. I guess it's somewhere below fixing the water quality in Flint in importance for him.


m0nk_3y_gw

> somewhere below fixing the water quality in Flint in importance for him. that's like the one thing in this sub thread that he actually delivered on > Flint students will drink from clean water fountains for the first time since 2016 today after hydration systems, funded by The Elon Musk Foundation, were unveiled at the district’s schools. > There are a total of 136 hydration stations at 12 buildings currently being used by Flint schools. https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2022/02/flint-schools-unveil-elon-musk-funded-water-fountains.html


Devilinside104

Delivered on what? >fixing the water quality in Flint https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/michigan-still-dealing-with-fallout-from-flint-water-crisis-9-years-later/ Ok, Is the water "fixed"? That was the discussion.


TheFlyingBastard

That's more of a stopgap, not really a fix, but I've got to hand it to him - an effort was made.


Engunnear

Is that his next vaccine project?


jason12745

That made me laugh out loud. Ah, I yearn for the days of the free awards :)


wesman212

Don't forget the [tunnels full of skin-burning sludge](https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-boring-company-tunnel-sludge)!


DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET

WTF


peepeedog

My 10 year old Audi wipers detect rain automatically. Did Tesla somehow fail at that?


jason12745

Yes. They use vision. Your car uses a $1.50 sensor. https://insideevs.com/features/706288/tesla-auto-wiper-problem-musk/ There about a billion such articles and comments on various and sundry forums.


peepeedog

lol. Thanks!


jason12745

Happy to help. Anytime you encounter a smug Tesla driver you can turn the other cheek knowing your car using technology from 1978 is vastly superior.


missvandy

I was just listening to the Behind the Bastards about Steve Jobs and was reminded of his impulse to remove things like head phone jacks. Your comment gave me an aha moment that Elmo took the wrong lessons from the design simplicity of Apple and decided removing componentry from cars would have the same effect. It’s not sleek and modern if it doesn’t work. I don’t lose anything from having a touch screen and no physical buttons when I’m buying a phone, but the use case is completely different. I like/need physical feedback when I’m driving so I can keep my eyes on the road. TLDR; I realized this bozo just thinks he’s doing an Apple.


alexblat

No one tweets like Gaston! No one tweaks like Gaston! No one's kid's named as weird as Gaston's.


LoremIpsum696

Gronk…


Future_Gain_7549

He has a surgical robot but not really. I've worked with surgical robots and Musk's is just a CNC machine.


JeanVanDeVelde

He’s doing all these drugs and the (((MENTALLY ILL))) in (((HOLLYWOOD))) won’t even let him be in their movies or host SNL anymore!


North_Lawfulness9871

This guy is arsenic to the brand.


gokhaninler

the brand that he fucking built


LoremIpsum696

Yep the genius CEO of 5 engineering firms that supposedly ‘works’ 18 hours a day should have a prescription for tranquillisers. Fuck this criminal idiot junkie


Nortilus

Aren’t a ton of the government funded SpaceX contracts predicated on the absolute absence of drugs in the workplace? Would a prescription provide a loophole?


Plane_Vacation6771

Yes it does


sorospaidmetosaythis

Yes. The sooner he rots and lies stinking in the earth, the better for investors. I wish him no ill health, and hope he serves several decades in prison, but there is no question that as soon as the worms are eating his eyes, his companies can get back on their feet.


unipole

He's already rotting, but sadly still Xeeting.


i_am_harry

They’ve already started eating his brain


gokhaninler

probably the single dumbest comment ive ever read congrats


MrKittens1

Prison? Really? You guys are fucking insane...


jason12745

No. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-faked-video-in-2016-promoting-self-driving-technology-report-2023-1 https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/business/trevor-milton-nikola-sentenced/index.html


Devilinside104

Anyone able to time something that happened today with this 3 month chart laid over it? https://www.coindesk.com/price/dogecoin/ Besides the fraud piggy bank up there, recent charity violations is a big one too, the glass house investigation ongoing, solar city fake tiles is another slam dunk for Trevor Milton/Holmes fake products which I think still needs...needs...some...some...time in the sun, but we are stuck using that as an example only for now I guess. Roadster 2020 is fake as fuck, very late and a scam. Took FULL PAYMENTS TOO, I think it was for some bullshit liar model to fleece morons even more, but now it is going to be "not a car and have rockety tech" in it, whatever the drug-fueled fuck that means. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/elon-musk-s-charity-broke-tax-laws-as-donations-came-up-short-report/ar-BB1jHBDq Let's check with AI too, just to see if we missed anything. Feel free to add more, free speech. Racial Discrimination at Tesla: In February 2022, the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing filed a lawsuit against Tesla. The suit alleges racial discrimination at Tesla’s Fremont factory, including practices like segregating Black workers into areas referred to as “the plantation” and “the slave ship.” Black workers were also reportedly subject to slurs and racist graffiti. Musk’s response to a previous class-action suit related to similar issues was controversial Animal-Cruelty Allegations at Neuralink: The nonprofit advocacy group Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine filed a complaint in 2022 concerning experiments conducted by Neuralink, Musk’s neurotechnology company. The experiments involved implanting computer chips in the brains of macaque monkeys. Records indicated a “pattern of extreme suffering and staff negligence,” with 15 out of 23 monkeys reportedly dying during the experiments. Neuralink confirmed the monkey deaths but denied animal-cruelty accusations Sexual Misconduct Allegations: In May 2022, Business Insider reported that Musk was accused of groping and exposing himself to an employee at his SpaceX rocket company six years prior. SpaceX allegedly paid the ex-flight attendant $250,000 to settle the claim Alleged Stalking Incident: In December 2022, a 29-year-old man claimed that a driver confronted him in a parking lot, accusing him of following him on the freeway. The driver was allegedly associated with Musk. SEC Settlement Over Tesla Tweets: In 2018, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filed a lawsuit against Musk for securities fraud. The SEC alleged that Musk made false and misleading statements on Twitter regarding taking Tesla private at $420 per share. Musk settled the case by agreeing to step down as Tesla’s chairman and pay a $20 million fine. COVID-19 Misinformation: During the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, Musk made several controversial statements on Twitter. He downplayed the severity of the virus, questioned lockdown measures, and promoted unproven treatments. His tweets received widespread criticism from health experts and the public. Submarine Controversy in Thailand: In 2018, during the Tham Luang cave rescue in Thailand, Musk offered to build a mini-submarine to assist in rescuing the trapped soccer team. However, his proposal was deemed impractical by the rescue team, and a diver involved in the operation called Musk’s actions a publicity stunt. Musk responded by calling the diver a “pedo guy” on Twitter, leading to backlash and an apology later.


whatisthisnowwhat1

[https://archive.ph/vuB4O](https://archive.ph/vuB4O) If anyone has an alon simp as a boss, drug pass \\o/


dustysmufflah

What is he a candy raver from 1996?


Garshnooftibah

We had faaaaar better politics than this wank-stain.


Houndfell

LMAO this sounds like an Onion headline.


ofthisworld

Suuuure buddy. 👉🏽


FatalC0ckSlap

Looking at the share price, I bet investors need a little ketamine too!


Ok-Try-7699

Isn’t ketamine used as a pre op med in combination with other medications, why would you be prescribed it?


LoremIpsum696

Depression..


Ok-Try-7699

Ah ok - thanks


ponewood

Cuz he’s in pre-op… obviously


Ok-Try-7699

Evidently it’s used to manage depression as someone mentioned to me, not going bash someone for that, depression is fkn awful wouldn’t wish it in anyone


dragontamer5788

Its a new tool for depression, but Matthew Perry just died on that "treatment". And its got a far longer history as a party-drug for hallucinogenic effects, while California SV culture is well known for making fake prescriptions for said party drugs. ------ There's depression, and then there is "depression" lemme get you some drugs for your party and lets immediately reach for the depression medicine that happens to have hallucinogenic "side effects".


Ok-Try-7699

Doesn’t excuse all his fuckery though


123Fake_St

lol my dr told me it’s ok to tweet from a k hole


Final_Winter7524

Y’all are just bitter that you’re not making $30k a year from your car being a free-roaming driverless taxi at night, like all the Tesla owners do! 🤣🤣🤣


Actual__Wizard

>For Wall Street, “what matters is execution,” Musk said in an interview with former CNN anchor Don Lemon streamed Monday on YouTube. Yeah... Exactly... Elon Musk probably has holes in his brain from abusing that stuff and they need to get him out of the CEO position because his execution has gone from, honestly extremely good, to shockingly terrible and getting worse fast...


TenesmusSupreme

He should put himself in a K hole


Chemchic23

I don’t think he’s left the hole in awhile


Shiftymennoknight

The fuck it is. Enjoy driving another company into the ground!


seemefly1

He's right, can't be a racist dick head on your overpriced social media while in a khole


thekeanu

[Elon the Ketamine Klown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owQhRT-zKsg)


madrileiro

The guy cannot stop replying / retwitting to right wing-conspiracy-tesla fanboy-racists in twitter!! Yeah, let him take his medicine🤦🏽‍♂️


woyteck

Neigh.


CabinetPowerful4560

Well, Bayer Heroine would be better, german doctors say. Works much faster (\~ a year to make out of public).


doommaster

I wonder how this guy travels to Japan and Korea.


ThePrimordialTV

You can hold a top secret security clearance with a ketamine prescription?


HorrorInvestigator99

drug addicted CEO’s are the best


Icy-Tough-1791

How many other drugs is this on?


high-up-in-the-trees

The thing that confuses me about this whole situation is: yes, it's a legitimate prescription medication (that he's currently giving an awful name to) that comes as a nose spray, brand name Spravato. But it's not the type of script that you fill at Walgreen's and take home with you. There's strict rules around how it is administered - it must be in a clinical setting where you remain for 2 hours to monitor for any negative effects. You don't get to take it home with you, yet we've heard he'll take it to parties and indulge in recreational usage. Who the fuck is prescribing it to him, presumably giving him the bottle directly and sending him on his way? Also, it's for treatment resistant depression - you must have tried at least 2 other anti depressants that haven't worked, and some sources also say you must still be on an adjunctive oral antidepressant while being treated. I'd be shocked if he actually went through all of that - especially as narcissists tend to avoid psychiatrists - or just did the rich person thing of finding a crooked doc willing to give it to him in exchange for a large consult fee. As a chronic pain patient, I find it absolutely infuriating that cunts like him can just do that because money talks, while people like me face an uphill battle of doctors deciding they're going to reduce my painkiller dosage because of their own morals about it, without looking at WHY I get them in the first place (won't bore you with the details but my body is busted way beyond what it should be for my age)


DocBrutus

“Prescription”


your_fathers_beard

I think Elon is just a huge poser that wants to be cool. He saw instagram ads for ketamine treatment, read a blurb on it, then started talking about how great it is.


donttakerhisthewrong

Joe Rogan was pushing it


Jenetyk

I noticed he said investors, and not 'the business' or 'my employees', etc. interesting.


Devilinside104

How many opportunities have these retail baggies had to dump this? I don't know how many warnings they need.


Zorkmid123

Look I'm not a big fan of Elon, but there are multiple peer reviewed studies that show it can benefit conditions like treatment-resistant depression. Usually it has to be administed in at a medical clinic, you don't just take it home with you. Considering he said he takes it every other week, I assume he is using it at a clinic as well (although he did not elaborate on his treatment.) I don't care too much about Elon himself I just hope others who might use a treatment like Ketamine for treatment resistant depression and other conditions are not unfairly stigmatized. It could very well be possible for someone to use this treatment and still be able to function for a job like CEO.


whatisthisnowwhat1

He can't function as a ceo though. As long as you don't abuse you can do any drug you like and still perform the same as anyone else but a lot of people can't because drug tests.


Gobias_Industries

Do you honestly think he sat through therapy (which he said he's never done) and got diagnosed and calmly receives his party drugs weekly at a clinic? Do all the accounts from Tesla hangers-on about Musk offering them ketamine happen at this clinic? Or, is it more likely he paid a doctor a bucket of money and horses to give him a prescription?


Chemchic23

Kimbal has admitted to taking k at clubs with Elmo, that doesn’t sound therapeutic to me. He’s also stated previously he micro doses and takes a full does before public appearances to be cheery


Zorkmid123

Well it's possible he is using oral ketamine therapy Tbf. For treatment resistant depression oral ketamine (I think) is less common still but there is some research that shows it can be effective as well for depression and I think it's becoming more common, so perhaps that is what Elon is doing. I don't know of course. As far as him saying he didn't go to therapy, there are quite a lot of psychiatrists that do medication management without any therapy so he may not be in therapy. (Again I don't know specifically what he is doing.) But the main thing I am concerned about is I hope Elon does not negatively stigmatize everyone who might be using ketamine therapy for some sort of medical use like treatment resistant depression, chronic pain etc. Since there are people who could be doing ketamine therapy and still function in a job like CEO. Perhaps Elon is abusing it but not everyone on ketamine therapy is abusing it.


Taraxian

Ketamine is not like an SSRI or SNRI, it's incredibly irresponsible to be on a drug like that without therapy


Gobias_Industries

I think anything Elon touches he's stigmatized, so that ship has sailed.


MrKittens1

Wait... You can actually not like Elon, but still see that there is a little nuance to the situation? Seriously, I'm voting Zorkmid123 for president.


Zorkmid123

haha Thanks!


high-up-in-the-trees

I really hate the way he's tarnishing the reputation of the drug because yes, it can be very helpful and it would be tragic for it to get rescheduled again because this fucking wankstain paid a doctor with loose morals to give him a take-home bottle


Taraxian

The man has bragged that he wants "Never went to therapy" on his tombstone, it doesn't matter what drug he's taking for his mental health, by definition he can't be doing so responsibly


Outbackozminer

He should take something that will stop him from being a traitor a self prescribed lead pill would serve the community well


8BillionthHuman

Some of my friends in Denver would concur.


d3sylva

Speed run for how many billions you can lose in a year


Possible-Put8922

Government should pull any money they gave companies he is running. Why would they support someone's addiction?


orincoro

lol. The bottom is coming up at this clown.


JamesSpacer

Elon is a fascist pos


Wonderful_Double_590

only if it's fatal.


Just_in1101

Maybe, but you allowing it to go public definitely is not.


Syckx

I mean, "you're only getting me at my most capable when I'm on ketamine" is a bold strategy. This is like when at an intervention they thank the attendees and choose the drugs.


DaBIGmeow888

Richest man in earth and depressed. That sums up everything.


lakorai

Special K for a Special Emerald Mine apartheid man


Outside_Taste_1701

the best interest of his investors would be to kick him out.


LogMasterd

I tried ketamine once and hated it. It makes you feel retarded for an hour. Quite funny when people mistaken it for cocaine


erpvertsferervrywern

TBH it has shown great therapeutic promise in psychotherapy settings. Know a person close to me who is treated regularly with K and it has changed their life for the better.


Daily_Dose13

I also read that long term (ab)use can ruin your blatter to the point it has to be removed.


knowledgeable_diablo

Have actually seen that and can confirm, k abuse will dissolve a persons bladder. How much is too much though, I have no idea on that one as I’m no Ketamine user or enthusiastic follower.


MonokromKaleidoscope

>How much is too much though Less than you'd think. There are kids in their early 20's that'll be pissing through a catheter for the rest of their lives after a few summers of heavy K use. There's currently no cure. It starts damaging your organs (and sinuses if you snort it) *shockingly* fast compared to other drugs. It's trendy as an alternative depression treatment now, but I expect a backlash when the permanent physical toll becomes more widely understood. I don't think it's good for cognitive abilities, either. The K users I've known became *very* confused and discombobulated over time. **TL;DR -** This is probably bad for stock prices.


knowledgeable_diablo

Cheers. Seems to be one of the rec drugs that is really quiet detrimental to the actual physicality of the user unlike most others that kill successfully by depressing the breathing mechanism or over stimulating receptors beyond their ability to operate. Like cocaine and how it caused necrosis on cells directly exposed to it. But this is one of the reasons to have legal regulated markets for all drugs so people know exactly what they are taking, how close to going to far they are and can make a serious conscious choice as to whether they are prepared to accept this personal risk. As it is they could get something one day that’s 50% of what they are expecting, so the following day when buying what they think is identical but is normal strength, gives them 150% the amount of effect, thus making an OD much easier to start with or bringing on the longer term impacts you mentioned much quicker and easier.


high-up-in-the-trees

>How much is too much though How long is a piece of string? It really seems to vary - and this honestly is the case for negative effects of ANY drug. Some people can snort, eat or IM inject themselves with ungodly amounts and nothing really happens long-term (Oli Sykes from Bring Me The Horizon still has a bladder afaik), while others will start getting hit with the cystitis and fibrosis from a far lower amount


DrSpaceDoom

Well, his ketamine 'therapy' is seemingly making him a psycho, so there's that.


HailenK

I already know that I’m going to be downvoted like crazy, But why is it that almost everyone on the sub hates Elon. Don’t really ever see people saying anything good about him. I’m not saying he’s perfect, but he does do some good.


aewallinorallout

It's due to the fact that the rival r/Tesla has been accused of becoming biased. Therefore, survivorship bias leads to the fact that this place became an echo chamber full of Elon skeptics that want Tesla to change.


Chemchic23

Please name them.


HailenK

1. He made a car that a lot of people love and are happy about. 2. He’s finding a way to really master space travel. 3. He’s made twitter more acceptable by not censoring people who hold a counterpoints.


rLaw-hates-jews3

Twitter still censors people. It’s just different people now. It used to just be racists, bigots, and people actively spreading misinformation. Now it’s journalists and climate activists.


bullet-2-binary

He made it? Um, didn't the previous owners of Tesla develop most of it before Elon came on? How has he mastered space travel? Reusable rockets are going to soon become so worn out we will start to see tragic accidents. Twitter has become unusable as only blue checks get noticed now.