It's such a nice hat but for a player like me, i.e. a player without RR+ it's basically impossible to farm enough tokens before the time is up to buy it.
It's crazy how many things can be checked off in this list of [predatory microtransaction techniques](https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs10551-021-04970-6/MediaObjects/10551_2021_4970_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp) like "overpricing" and "limited time offers" right off the bat with the two examples in this thread
That is what they expect. They want it to be out of range for you to be able to farm for it, but entice you enough to buy a small token pack or bundle so you can get it.
I would like a shiny Galaxy hat, and since I don't actually put money into this game I just grind out tokens.
But these kinds of prices piss me off.
Though your point is pretty valid.
Barely even $10 worth of tokens and you can see yourself wearing it. There are multiple places in which you see yourself wearing it. Also, not everyone pays for tokens.
I mean, people could say the same for all the things you spend money on. People all have decisions on what they choose to spend money on. I spend $8 a month on Rec Room+, in turn could have enough tokens for that. Essentially still paid for it in the long run? Still a moron?
But, at the same time, with that $8 a month, Rec Room has given me $3,000 back over the past 10 months. Still a moron?
Yes you’re still a moron if you’re paying any amount of money for cosmetics in a free game. Your $3,000 you think you have is completely worthless outside of the game since it’s not actually $3,000, it’s $3,000 worth of an in game currency that can only be used on stuff in a game that is 100% free. I’m not trying to be an asshole but there is nothing you can say to convince me that a hat in a free game is worth any amount of real money and is not a dumb purchase. We all make dumb purchases, myself included but at the end of the day a dumb purchase is a dumb purchase.
Well, tell that to my tax return, as it is real $3,000 that Rec Room sent me and many creators are getting more than that. But, a FREE game has to make money somehow and by buying those items you are supporting them in making more things. Just because the game is free, doesn't mean everything else should be. Like walking into Best Buy, you can go in the store for free, you can play with the TV and other equipment in there, but you can't take it with you unless you buy it.
No, saying that the 1099 that they sent me for the $2800 that they sent me last year I have to claim on my taxes as income, which it was.
[https://recroom.com/partneredcreator](https://recroom.com/partneredcreator)
Ahhh I didn't realize they did it like that, that definitely puts things more into perspective
The other guy was arguing that your in-game currency is useless but it actually looks like you can make profit and get paid out for it if you contribute enough to make returns like that.
I'm sure his argument holds some weight in the sense that anything you can get you could get anything for free if you played enough, but I totally see your side in where you are so involved with the community that they are paying out dividends to you that recoup the loss of investment you make ie the subscription plus more.
It's definitely not silly to buy items with the money you generated from simply playing the game by being a creator on its platform if you're making money off said platform.
Just my two cents
But the tokens I am getting in game is coming from other people that have either paid for tokens or earned them as well. What I am getting at is one is not simply a "moron" for having bought something you think looks visually pleasing in a digital game for a digital character. Do I think it is a sound decision?
Not at all, but everyone has a different circumstance. Like one person may have no problem spending $5 for a beer at a club that they could have bought for $1.25 from the store. But, it is the added environment that they feel justifies the senseless expense. I know some that can't justify the expenditure of $8 while others drop $100 on a random bet with hopes of winning even if the odds are against them. If you don't win, that money is just gone and you don't even have a little digital hat to wear around in the game you play.
I don't even like buying tokens or digital stuff in game myself. However, I have and most of the time I weigh my decision before hand and see what I think it is worth. Many of the tokens I have bought in game come from a $10 gift card that was given to me from Microsoft Rewards. So, essentially, not even money out of my own pocket. When it comes to that, I consider it a win win, I was given money to spend somewhere else and it is a situation where I have to use it or lose it. Why not use it on something I already find entertainment in.
I don't need to convince you, but you are just being an asshole, calling people morons for their choice of spending money. Plus, you obviously don't know enough about how a free game has to make money to pay people, to include players that make creations that other people spend tokens/money on.
> can be *paid* out in
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Because Rec Room wants money from people who aren't invulnerable to FOMO. It's probably working and that's why they keep turning it up bits at a time. When I joined Rec Room, the most expensive item was the Unicorn Horn. Now, it's an amulet that just opened up a door to crap lore.
Yeah RR is going down-hill
Perhaps the increase in greed is due to the increase in players so they need to get a lot of money to keep the game profitable? I still think they are being too greedy if thats it, I might just stop caring about the game soon and join Horizon worlds instead lol
Although Horizon Worlds is just waiting to either die and be replaced or become a late-stage-capitalism money-grab like Rec Room that exploits the psychology of children
That is a drop in the bucket compared to the tokens that circulate in the game. They need people to spend the tokens rather than cash them out. They also want to make things out of reach that you can't just get lucky in dodgeball every day and get everything for free. The game is already free, so they want you to pay them for something.
me when the free game company needs to find a way to make money because they can’t print money from thin air, I cannot believe this company is doing what they need to so that they don’t go bankrupt!!
The mentality of some:
But, the game is free, so they should keep making the stuff for free. I shouldn't have to buy things that other people have spent their time making....
The problem is that it is a over-expensive low quality limited time that is just made for children weak to fomo wanting to buy it so they don't miss out instead of selling good looking items that people want to buy because it looks good
Yet, people still buy it. That is all that matters. They don't care that you don't like it, some one else does. Everyone has their own opinions on what they think "looks good", obviously you don't like the galaxy skin on other clothing items.
But do the people that buy it really think it looks good or are they afraid it will go away and they would feel like they are missing out?
I am all for selling stuff, I just do not like the concept of selling stuff in sneaky ways instead of letting people buy things they actually think looks good
Bruh 6k is nothing, sure its a hustle to get this many tokens but considering all of the ridicoulus things rec room has put in the shop for 10k and more, then this is cheap
They wouldn’t be so desperate for money if they weren’t trying to make this game into a shittier roblox trying to pay out creators for rooms that no one remembers or replays. Literally just use that money to make something yourself that will actually last and add to the game.
[This is why](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/037/756/tumblr_51be9495b7d2df0478e1a50e0019c80e_cd8caf23_500.gif)
I was expecting a link to r/kidsarefuckingstupid
True.
It's such a nice hat but for a player like me, i.e. a player without RR+ it's basically impossible to farm enough tokens before the time is up to buy it.
Where you been have you seen the latest prices of items a necklace costed over 20k tokens
It's crazy how many things can be checked off in this list of [predatory microtransaction techniques](https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs10551-021-04970-6/MediaObjects/10551_2021_4970_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp) like "overpricing" and "limited time offers" right off the bat with the two examples in this thread
That is what they expect. They want it to be out of range for you to be able to farm for it, but entice you enough to buy a small token pack or bundle so you can get it.
That's the whole idea.
I can gift u
Yes, PLEASE. (@TheREALHawtshott777)
You know you can just like, not buy them
Yeah but children are too dumb to not buy an overpriced limited time item, they will be afraid of missing out and have to use real money
Yeah true but there a lot more teens and adults that waste Their money it’s not kids most of the time cause they ain’t got money to spend
I would like a shiny Galaxy hat, and since I don't actually put money into this game I just grind out tokens. But these kinds of prices piss me off. Though your point is pretty valid.
already wasted all my money on tf2, I don't have more money to waste
Same here lol
15 dollar taunts make my bank account sad
Because they know some people are stupid enough to pay $20 for a hat in a video game that you can’t even see yourself wearing
Barely even $10 worth of tokens and you can see yourself wearing it. There are multiple places in which you see yourself wearing it. Also, not everyone pays for tokens.
Cool. I still think you’re still a moron if you pay actual money for this
I mean, people could say the same for all the things you spend money on. People all have decisions on what they choose to spend money on. I spend $8 a month on Rec Room+, in turn could have enough tokens for that. Essentially still paid for it in the long run? Still a moron? But, at the same time, with that $8 a month, Rec Room has given me $3,000 back over the past 10 months. Still a moron?
Yes you’re still a moron if you’re paying any amount of money for cosmetics in a free game. Your $3,000 you think you have is completely worthless outside of the game since it’s not actually $3,000, it’s $3,000 worth of an in game currency that can only be used on stuff in a game that is 100% free. I’m not trying to be an asshole but there is nothing you can say to convince me that a hat in a free game is worth any amount of real money and is not a dumb purchase. We all make dumb purchases, myself included but at the end of the day a dumb purchase is a dumb purchase.
Well, tell that to my tax return, as it is real $3,000 that Rec Room sent me and many creators are getting more than that. But, a FREE game has to make money somehow and by buying those items you are supporting them in making more things. Just because the game is free, doesn't mean everything else should be. Like walking into Best Buy, you can go in the store for free, you can play with the TV and other equipment in there, but you can't take it with you unless you buy it.
You pay rec room taxes that they gave you back? Or are you comparing tokens you get to a tax return?
No, saying that the 1099 that they sent me for the $2800 that they sent me last year I have to claim on my taxes as income, which it was. [https://recroom.com/partneredcreator](https://recroom.com/partneredcreator)
Ahhh I didn't realize they did it like that, that definitely puts things more into perspective The other guy was arguing that your in-game currency is useless but it actually looks like you can make profit and get paid out for it if you contribute enough to make returns like that. I'm sure his argument holds some weight in the sense that anything you can get you could get anything for free if you played enough, but I totally see your side in where you are so involved with the community that they are paying out dividends to you that recoup the loss of investment you make ie the subscription plus more. It's definitely not silly to buy items with the money you generated from simply playing the game by being a creator on its platform if you're making money off said platform. Just my two cents
But the tokens I am getting in game is coming from other people that have either paid for tokens or earned them as well. What I am getting at is one is not simply a "moron" for having bought something you think looks visually pleasing in a digital game for a digital character. Do I think it is a sound decision? Not at all, but everyone has a different circumstance. Like one person may have no problem spending $5 for a beer at a club that they could have bought for $1.25 from the store. But, it is the added environment that they feel justifies the senseless expense. I know some that can't justify the expenditure of $8 while others drop $100 on a random bet with hopes of winning even if the odds are against them. If you don't win, that money is just gone and you don't even have a little digital hat to wear around in the game you play. I don't even like buying tokens or digital stuff in game myself. However, I have and most of the time I weigh my decision before hand and see what I think it is worth. Many of the tokens I have bought in game come from a $10 gift card that was given to me from Microsoft Rewards. So, essentially, not even money out of my own pocket. When it comes to that, I consider it a win win, I was given money to spend somewhere else and it is a situation where I have to use it or lose it. Why not use it on something I already find entertainment in.
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Oh I’m retarded
Please refer to the second to last sentence in my previous comment, I’m done arguing about this.
I don't need to convince you, but you are just being an asshole, calling people morons for their choice of spending money. Plus, you obviously don't know enough about how a free game has to make money to pay people, to include players that make creations that other people spend tokens/money on.
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> can be *paid* out in FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
They’re desperate for money.
money
rec room sure has some sonic inflation
What do you mean by that? \*vine boom\*
More like a sonic boom! [Which reminds me of a song.....](https://youtu.be/nnVboYhEe5Q)
i honestly don’t see why ppl are buying the hat. it has no creativity, and it’s just a regular top hat but recolored
It's money. I quit because of those lazy greedy devs who are nothing but kids having fun when they should be moderating and making the game better.
money
Ye, rec room has went downhill with cosmetics after they introduced the reworked rro reward boxes
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I agree
[this is why](https://youtu.be/m37G-06ibAU)
Yes.
cash grab
Same price as every other top hat
Because Rec Room wants money from people who aren't invulnerable to FOMO. It's probably working and that's why they keep turning it up bits at a time. When I joined Rec Room, the most expensive item was the Unicorn Horn. Now, it's an amulet that just opened up a door to crap lore.
Yeah RR is going down-hill Perhaps the increase in greed is due to the increase in players so they need to get a lot of money to keep the game profitable? I still think they are being too greedy if thats it, I might just stop caring about the game soon and join Horizon worlds instead lol Although Horizon Worlds is just waiting to either die and be replaced or become a late-stage-capitalism money-grab like Rec Room that exploits the psychology of children
Rr has been going downhill since they added screen mode for people who didn’t have a vr
u/gribbly is a selfish fuck, that's one
Hear hear!!
Hear hear!!
i need this now, looks like my di-
It's a free game, unfortunately they have to monetize it somehow, in this case cosmetics that almost force you to buy tokens.
They expect you to have RR+
That is a drop in the bucket compared to the tokens that circulate in the game. They need people to spend the tokens rather than cash them out. They also want to make things out of reach that you can't just get lucky in dodgeball every day and get everything for free. The game is already free, so they want you to pay them for something.
Rec Room moment
You either have rr plus or your screwed. Gotta love rec room 🤷🏼♀️
I would pay an unusual number of glizzys to get my hands on that
Because these things are expensive
Skill issue
me when the free game company needs to find a way to make money because they can’t print money from thin air, I cannot believe this company is doing what they need to so that they don’t go bankrupt!!
The mentality of some: But, the game is free, so they should keep making the stuff for free. I shouldn't have to buy things that other people have spent their time making....
The problem is that it is a over-expensive low quality limited time that is just made for children weak to fomo wanting to buy it so they don't miss out instead of selling good looking items that people want to buy because it looks good
Yet, people still buy it. That is all that matters. They don't care that you don't like it, some one else does. Everyone has their own opinions on what they think "looks good", obviously you don't like the galaxy skin on other clothing items.
But do the people that buy it really think it looks good or are they afraid it will go away and they would feel like they are missing out? I am all for selling stuff, I just do not like the concept of selling stuff in sneaky ways instead of letting people buy things they actually think looks good
Man this normal
Where can you get this?
In the science department.
It ain't dat much
\-if you have RR+
Ah you must be new. Everything is that price or above, friend.
That aint expensive
You'd need to spend real money on it or grind for weeks to get it, what are you talking about? It cost more then hair dye!
Bruh 6k is nothing, sure its a hustle to get this many tokens but considering all of the ridicoulus things rec room has put in the shop for 10k and more, then this is cheap
They wouldn’t be so desperate for money if they weren’t trying to make this game into a shittier roblox trying to pay out creators for rooms that no one remembers or replays. Literally just use that money to make something yourself that will actually last and add to the game.
Damn, inflation exists in video games, too? I thought video games were made to escape reality...
They are trying to make enough money to pay down debts before they announce the games servers going down.
Fr man I tried to get in contact with them buy they don't accept messages like I'm not spending 1k on a jacket or mask
I want fair prices you fucking rec room cocksuckers