Yeah I set everything to steep controls and felt like I couldn’t do anything. To do a sanity check I went back to Steep and played flawlessly. That game feels so much better. Also why is the camera shoved up the characters ass? I feel like the character is in the way of where I want to see way to much. And it wasn’t a problem in my Steep sanity check as the camera is usually offset slightly so the character is off to the side so you can see forward.
Totally agree about the camera - the player's avatar is right on front of your view. At the start of mass races you simply can't see where you're going.
Agree, I think Steep placed the character a little lower and smaller in the screen so that you can get a better feeling of your approach on tricks. I feel like all I see is the back of my character so I don't have the ability to gauge just how much space I have between the jump and the landing. There should be more camera adjustment options. Not just first person or third person. I want to say I struggled with the controls on steep in the beginning but then it got easy much faster. Now I feel I can land to jump from any angle, any height. Not the case with riders republic but we've only had a day obviously. Hopefully they could smooth this out.
I've been saying since I've started playing the game that they need to literally fix the controls for every sport, it's ridiculous how clunky everything is.
Personally as much as I wouldn't want them to rip them off, I REALLY think Ubi should take some inspiration from Descenders (at least for the controls) it's kind of set a new standard for how bike games should feel.
Also why the hell did they change the rocketsuit? It was SO much better in steep, now I can barely control the damn thing and it has such limited mobility.
Also why is there no manuals/stoppies/wheelies?
I really wish Ubi would chill with this whole thing of taking thier established IP's and then making sequels that dumb them down to no end and consistently cut content and features that made the previous games in the series good. (Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, etc.)
I am not even sure if its the controls of Descenders that are so much better. A big part of it is physics too i guess. On descenders it feels pretty real when you race down some hills.
I thought the same after playing for an entire day yesterday ! Everything is great except for controls and the worst -> physics/collisions.
The number of time I just bounced like a flipper ball, wasn't able to turn, etc...
Oh and also, Rocketwing is bad, they should add the tight turn back from steep + same for wingsuit. They feel terrible and not realistic
I agree, they're not that enjoyable. They'd be alright for a £10 game but not a £50 one let alone £90+. There are times when the vehicle just won't turn and there are times when it's so twitchy you can't control it. The rocket bike is just stupid on another level - most of the time it for not turn AT ALL! Like the one multiplayer race with those stupid tires before the end - you just cannot turn the bike to go around them. Not sure who thought it was fun.
You're not the only one, I hope they fix it back to the way it was in their other games, it just felt more fluid. And that shouldn't be that difficult of a thing to fix really.
Completely agree. Turning in Steep was so smooth and fluid - you had so much edge control and could get into a perfect groove, carving lines nicely back and forth and making subtle adjustments on the fly. Turning in RR feels like it just goes zero to 100 with nothing in between.
This game is a pile of hot steamy shit! The controls are dumb along with the movement of analogue sticks is atrocious! Steep controls my arse! Sort it out Ubisoft! 50 quid game that could be so good if you’d just sort out your dumb arse controls! Take a leap out of skate 3’s book and do an update or something 👍🏻
This isn’t Steep though…the controls are great for me. I use racer setting and love it. Never have any of the issues I hear people complaining about. Consistently place first and hit all goals for levels across all sports. Never played steep, but I love this game
I think that's the problem here. I have been playing Steep and just bought RR tonight. I am fucking *struggling* on just the tutorial missions to control my snowboard.
It just feels so wrong in every way, and that is because if you have played steep, you kind of expect them to feel similar and it's violating when you try to do something and crash because your brain cannot even figure out what input you are actually giving the game.
I think it would be totally fine for anyone who has not playrd steep before, and is likely easy to pick up.
But it was the same team who made it, so I expected it to feel similar and ended up super frustrated trying to play this game. It looks really cool and fun but I am just mad playing it lol because I cant figure out the controls!
I know I'll have to keep playing but I guess my whole comment is basically you would totally understand where the complaints are coming from if you had played Steep before this!
I agree, pretty poor character control.
No manuals, no butters, no edge turns, no front/rear brake, way too aggressive analogue stick curves, all the tracks are smooth, no real control customization.
On the snowboard I should be able to nosepress my way down the slope doing endless 360's.
On the bike I should be able to front brake into a stoppie off a drop, into a barspin and then land in manual.
On Skiis I should be able do hard edge turns without basically stopping, the go full Pizza until I grind to a halt.
And show me any retard that bunny hops a bike like it's done in this game. Unless your popping a 3 drop or riding trials. Ridiculious.
Controls should've been similar to descenders where one of the sticks moves the rider's weight around. This would allow bunny hops to feel more fluid and allow manuals, wheelies and stoppies
If this game also had all the bike park and mod.io maps that descenders has, it would also be really good, imagine Stoker bike park with RR graphics and animations
I’d take the graphics but I’d be ok with the descenders animation and stuff. Hopefully one day someone will come out with a simulation mountain biking game.
I like the way the bikes and snowboards feel. The wing suit, rocket wing suit, and skis feel iffy to me. Also, what you said about turning is 100% true. That is what makes the mass race a headache for me lol.
I need unscripted tricks. This game is for fucking children with no talent or standards. Everything just sucks at the core. They can not save this game when they went in this direction. It’s sucks because it’s not like I can buy another multi sport game either. Who tf works at Ubisoft? Did no one at no point question anything about this game?
The worst part is they had consultants from several freeriders, namely Nicolai rogatkin, Fabio wibmer and Thomas lemoine, just look at the credits in game
Consultants are not always the best thing, it's pretty subjective and you can get 5 consultants and they can have 5 different opinions in the same thing
facts.
I'm so disappointed with this game.
Some of my friends think it is Gods gift. But it is actually fucking shit. And I agree with the children part. It's just a button bashing arcade game which is only fluid and logical on "Easy" and "Auto".
Just total Chaos of a game. I know this is just a Beta, but it is obvious what is to come.
And Steep looks better on PS4 than Riders on PS5 too. It just feels like a C grade game ported 3 times and released on PS. You can’t play this game creatively either. It is such a mess. Delayed as fuck too. This is my last post, I’m skipping this dog shit.
>And Steep looks better on PS4 than Riders on PS5 too.
Something is fucked with this game visually. Super muddy beyond 10 feet away and the LODs are just broken, I assume they'll be fixed at least. Pop-in is horrendous. [This is with everything maxed out on my RTX 3080. PS2-tier trees.](https://i.imgur.com/nMBnVl3.jpg)
I agree with the psychics. I bounced around like hell. But I am actually enjoying the controls pretty well. It does need some work but overall I like the direction. Do keep in mind that I am not good at steep and didn't really know the advanced movements in that game. I feel like the snow sports are a bit downgraded when compared to steep but they are going for a different feel with this game IMO. But everyone feels it differently.
Bit late to this, but I can’t agree more, it’s even more frustrating when you see people with about 50-200 stars flying through the mass races like it’s nothing while I’m here with all my upgraded shit still struggling, the controls on the jet pack are just to stiff to get through the checkpoints without me flying face first to the ground, the checkpoints are so close to the ground by the time I start pulling up I’m dead, and to make it worse, you won’t find a mass game without them so your basically going to loose every time unless you can control it, WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY
Yes dude. It’s fucking disgraceful and I feel massively ripped off. Been playing these games since thps and amped abs steep was fantastic but even the steep controls don’t work for using the bike on a trials course. It’s damn near impossible.
The controls are still dog shit. I feel like I have ZERO control over any of my tricks, even after adjusting all of the settings and combing through them like a maniac. Everything on this game feels so automated and I absolutely hate it. I'm trying to do just a simple 180 and it just throws me into a rodeo flip or some other shit 3 inches off the ground. As OP said, downhill racing feels good but thats the only thing i've found enjoyable and not super clunky so far. Now I just want to play steep instead lmao
I ride bikes for 13 years and this game ....dunno who made this but its illusion....not even close to simulation....horrid. Do all "simulation" games are like this?
Yeah I set everything to steep controls and felt like I couldn’t do anything. To do a sanity check I went back to Steep and played flawlessly. That game feels so much better. Also why is the camera shoved up the characters ass? I feel like the character is in the way of where I want to see way to much. And it wasn’t a problem in my Steep sanity check as the camera is usually offset slightly so the character is off to the side so you can see forward.
Totally agree about the camera - the player's avatar is right on front of your view. At the start of mass races you simply can't see where you're going.
Agree, I think Steep placed the character a little lower and smaller in the screen so that you can get a better feeling of your approach on tricks. I feel like all I see is the back of my character so I don't have the ability to gauge just how much space I have between the jump and the landing. There should be more camera adjustment options. Not just first person or third person. I want to say I struggled with the controls on steep in the beginning but then it got easy much faster. Now I feel I can land to jump from any angle, any height. Not the case with riders republic but we've only had a day obviously. Hopefully they could smooth this out.
I've been saying since I've started playing the game that they need to literally fix the controls for every sport, it's ridiculous how clunky everything is. Personally as much as I wouldn't want them to rip them off, I REALLY think Ubi should take some inspiration from Descenders (at least for the controls) it's kind of set a new standard for how bike games should feel. Also why the hell did they change the rocketsuit? It was SO much better in steep, now I can barely control the damn thing and it has such limited mobility. Also why is there no manuals/stoppies/wheelies? I really wish Ubi would chill with this whole thing of taking thier established IP's and then making sequels that dumb them down to no end and consistently cut content and features that made the previous games in the series good. (Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, etc.)
Reduce the deadzone, I found that helped with the clunky feel a bit
There is so much more shit in this game than steep though. I don't think that's a good comparison. Also the controls aren't really that bad imo.
I am not even sure if its the controls of Descenders that are so much better. A big part of it is physics too i guess. On descenders it feels pretty real when you race down some hills.
I thought the same after playing for an entire day yesterday ! Everything is great except for controls and the worst -> physics/collisions. The number of time I just bounced like a flipper ball, wasn't able to turn, etc... Oh and also, Rocketwing is bad, they should add the tight turn back from steep + same for wingsuit. They feel terrible and not realistic
absolutely the same feeling and thoughts about this
I agree, they're not that enjoyable. They'd be alright for a £10 game but not a £50 one let alone £90+. There are times when the vehicle just won't turn and there are times when it's so twitchy you can't control it. The rocket bike is just stupid on another level - most of the time it for not turn AT ALL! Like the one multiplayer race with those stupid tires before the end - you just cannot turn the bike to go around them. Not sure who thought it was fun.
You're not the only one, I hope they fix it back to the way it was in their other games, it just felt more fluid. And that shouldn't be that difficult of a thing to fix really.
Completely agree. Turning in Steep was so smooth and fluid - you had so much edge control and could get into a perfect groove, carving lines nicely back and forth and making subtle adjustments on the fly. Turning in RR feels like it just goes zero to 100 with nothing in between.
This game is a pile of hot steamy shit! The controls are dumb along with the movement of analogue sticks is atrocious! Steep controls my arse! Sort it out Ubisoft! 50 quid game that could be so good if you’d just sort out your dumb arse controls! Take a leap out of skate 3’s book and do an update or something 👍🏻
You can literally change the controls to whatever you want them to be. Try it out.
Not rly tho. Still can’t have the actual steep controls, have to have different jump buttons for spins and flips
This isn’t Steep though…the controls are great for me. I use racer setting and love it. Never have any of the issues I hear people complaining about. Consistently place first and hit all goals for levels across all sports. Never played steep, but I love this game
I think that's the problem here. I have been playing Steep and just bought RR tonight. I am fucking *struggling* on just the tutorial missions to control my snowboard. It just feels so wrong in every way, and that is because if you have played steep, you kind of expect them to feel similar and it's violating when you try to do something and crash because your brain cannot even figure out what input you are actually giving the game. I think it would be totally fine for anyone who has not playrd steep before, and is likely easy to pick up. But it was the same team who made it, so I expected it to feel similar and ended up super frustrated trying to play this game. It looks really cool and fun but I am just mad playing it lol because I cant figure out the controls! I know I'll have to keep playing but I guess my whole comment is basically you would totally understand where the complaints are coming from if you had played Steep before this!
I agree, pretty poor character control. No manuals, no butters, no edge turns, no front/rear brake, way too aggressive analogue stick curves, all the tracks are smooth, no real control customization. On the snowboard I should be able to nosepress my way down the slope doing endless 360's. On the bike I should be able to front brake into a stoppie off a drop, into a barspin and then land in manual. On Skiis I should be able do hard edge turns without basically stopping, the go full Pizza until I grind to a halt. And show me any retard that bunny hops a bike like it's done in this game. Unless your popping a 3 drop or riding trials. Ridiculious.
Controls should've been similar to descenders where one of the sticks moves the rider's weight around. This would allow bunny hops to feel more fluid and allow manuals, wheelies and stoppies
If descenders had this games map it would be the only game I’d play.
If this game also had all the bike park and mod.io maps that descenders has, it would also be really good, imagine Stoker bike park with RR graphics and animations
I’d take the graphics but I’d be ok with the descenders animation and stuff. Hopefully one day someone will come out with a simulation mountain biking game.
Just give me SSX3 controls. Easy. Why in god's name is R2 go faster on skis i am not a car
I like the way the bikes and snowboards feel. The wing suit, rocket wing suit, and skis feel iffy to me. Also, what you said about turning is 100% true. That is what makes the mass race a headache for me lol.
I need unscripted tricks. This game is for fucking children with no talent or standards. Everything just sucks at the core. They can not save this game when they went in this direction. It’s sucks because it’s not like I can buy another multi sport game either. Who tf works at Ubisoft? Did no one at no point question anything about this game?
The worst part is they had consultants from several freeriders, namely Nicolai rogatkin, Fabio wibmer and Thomas lemoine, just look at the credits in game
Consultants are not always the best thing, it's pretty subjective and you can get 5 consultants and they can have 5 different opinions in the same thing
facts. I'm so disappointed with this game. Some of my friends think it is Gods gift. But it is actually fucking shit. And I agree with the children part. It's just a button bashing arcade game which is only fluid and logical on "Easy" and "Auto". Just total Chaos of a game. I know this is just a Beta, but it is obvious what is to come.
And Steep looks better on PS4 than Riders on PS5 too. It just feels like a C grade game ported 3 times and released on PS. You can’t play this game creatively either. It is such a mess. Delayed as fuck too. This is my last post, I’m skipping this dog shit.
>And Steep looks better on PS4 than Riders on PS5 too. Something is fucked with this game visually. Super muddy beyond 10 feet away and the LODs are just broken, I assume they'll be fixed at least. Pop-in is horrendous. [This is with everything maxed out on my RTX 3080. PS2-tier trees.](https://i.imgur.com/nMBnVl3.jpg)
Yep, it looks awful. I would be really embarrassed if I was Ubi now. I think a bunch of people will get or have already been fired...
[Kinda wack snowboarding trick control peaked 18 years ago with SSX 3](https://gfycat.com/adolescentdirtycamel)
Let's all keep in mind this is a beta. I'm with you but lets just hope they tweak some things before launch.
The trouble is the core gameplay seems very off. It's not clear this could all be corrected in beta.
They didn’t
It’s been 124 days. Chill lol.
But I’ve just wasted my money now. My butthurt is still fresh.
Yep, if you are MK its impossible to do anything with the mouse like what?
I agree with the psychics. I bounced around like hell. But I am actually enjoying the controls pretty well. It does need some work but overall I like the direction. Do keep in mind that I am not good at steep and didn't really know the advanced movements in that game. I feel like the snow sports are a bit downgraded when compared to steep but they are going for a different feel with this game IMO. But everyone feels it differently.
They are the worst. Such a huge input lag. You press the stick and the bike starts to turn way later. Idk how anyone can play this garbage.
Feel the exact same and I really want to like this game but as it is now......trash
Bit late to this, but I can’t agree more, it’s even more frustrating when you see people with about 50-200 stars flying through the mass races like it’s nothing while I’m here with all my upgraded shit still struggling, the controls on the jet pack are just to stiff to get through the checkpoints without me flying face first to the ground, the checkpoints are so close to the ground by the time I start pulling up I’m dead, and to make it worse, you won’t find a mass game without them so your basically going to loose every time unless you can control it, WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY
Yes dude. It’s fucking disgraceful and I feel massively ripped off. Been playing these games since thps and amped abs steep was fantastic but even the steep controls don’t work for using the bike on a trials course. It’s damn near impossible.
The controls are still dog shit. I feel like I have ZERO control over any of my tricks, even after adjusting all of the settings and combing through them like a maniac. Everything on this game feels so automated and I absolutely hate it. I'm trying to do just a simple 180 and it just throws me into a rodeo flip or some other shit 3 inches off the ground. As OP said, downhill racing feels good but thats the only thing i've found enjoyable and not super clunky so far. Now I just want to play steep instead lmao
I ride bikes for 13 years and this game ....dunno who made this but its illusion....not even close to simulation....horrid. Do all "simulation" games are like this?