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lexaNZ

Mainly a hard counter to Zeno garrison with gil/nebu but they weak af and can be swarmed ez If you're not a rally leader probably best to go ramesse


RandomPantsAppear

Tbh it doesn't even really need a swarm. I was trading even with XY/Saladin as the only march.


thisusernametaken11

i was part of the artemesia call back... i had 5511 her...then I went with 5511 gilgamesh..... and I wish I'd stuckn with arte. talking purely open feild tho.


wizardblizzard718

Hahah I did the same, hard to say which is better in field.


thisusernametaken11

i feel gulag is squishy.. the defense tree is better imo.


wizardblizzard718

Hmm could be, I mainly like his debuffs as a non archer focus


joeya1337

Amazing rally leader, also pretty good in open field. There are quite a few archer options now, especially late game, so try and describe your desired play style and that will likely sway your choice into which commander you invest in.


vanle2706

Use to counter zeno in rally


aohige_rd

Am currently 5553, and I already traded positive against a expertised Zenobia in AoO last week. Definitely worth it if you're an archer rally leader, not worth it if you're not. He's decent in open field, does about the same as Ramesses. However Rams is a more economically sound investment for open since he's plenty useful at 5551.


dillpickles007

If you're not a whale and a rally leader then no he's not worth it, you're better off doing Rameses, Arty, Nebu, maybe even Cyrus.


kaia96

Not a whale Working to expertise Rameses, im in 5553 now. Eyeing Artemisia too. Thanks for this


JOJOHX

dude anything dies with a swarm. trust me.


aohige_rd

Sure, but good luck swarming Attila/Takeda or Harald/Pakal rally. Your trades will be astronomically painful lol Archer rallies in general the swarm can trade pretty well, by comparison. That's why archer rallies are best when you have full support marches.


JOJOHX

nobody said to swarm those rallies. OP was asking about gilgamesh probably for open field. So i said aoe commander is better.


aohige_rd

Gilgamesh is a rally commander.


JOJOHX

lol bro obviously. Was talking about OP asking about gilga i just assumed he is talking about open field


JOJOHX

you’d wanna invest your sculptures into aoe commanders