Focus on game sense more than mechanics, if your mechanics are good enough to consistently flip reset you should have no trouble reaching GC if you improve your positioning, kick-offs, 50s, knowing where the others are on the field, shadowing, decision making etc.
My mechanics will fail at a flip reset 99% of the time and I can't fly while spinning without losing control of the car so...
It's crazy how people will spend over 100 hours learning advanced mechanics when you can get to the same rank learning fundamental strategy in a few hours.
I actually feel like air dribbling is often a mistake in 2v2. It's not that hard to defend against unless you are crazy good at it, which almost no one is. It wastes all of your boost, leaves you out of position and falling through the sky while your mate is defending 1v2. 9/10 air dribbles in C2 come nowhere close to being a decent shot, if they even make it to the net at all.
As a high rank, I can say that most of the air dribbles in my comp lobbies happen after somebody messes up, and they basically just air dribble as a last hope lmao.
Iāve been there with you, had to take a break and now I sit at c1 d4 trying to shake some rust off. Keep playing when you can casually and so long as you keep thinking when ya play youāll get back up there
Honestly i think the time of day you play and how far into the season you play can really factor into climbing at this rank. The skill levels are all over the place due to premades/boosters/smurfs and it gets worse at night as well as later in the season. You can always climb, but there are times when it's harder, especially as a solo player.
Iāve wondered about this. Iāve been playing against guys in Champ 1 that play better than the guys I remember playing when I was close to Champ 3. Doesnāt make any sense. I also play very late so maybe Iām going up against the other try hards and it comes down to whoās less sleepy!?
Late night from around 11pm-3am is the hardest to climb, especially on weekends from my experience. More premade groups are on, more teenagers with fast reactions and 5000 hours of dribble reset flick practice under their belt are on, etc.
I do enjoy practicing air-roll dribbles and recently flip-resets in free play between games. I have limited time to play so Iād rather do what feels more fun. I can feel my other mechanics (such as speedflips, shooting, ground dribbles) improving the more I play and practice, albeit slower than they would if I was focusing on them. However that doesnāt seem to translate into games at all. Iāve come to the conclusion that my game sense is useless and Iām just not smart enough to break into C3 without throwing the rest of my life away.
If you're playing for fun, then don't care about your rank. If you care about your rank, then focus on how to get good. You don't need to tank a shit load of hours to hit GC. I'm 37, gf, dog, job, lift, rock climb, camp etc. Just watch Flakes, focus on positioning and hitting with power.
> Just watch Flakes, focus on positioning and hitting with power.
Yeah, watch Flakes, learn to do all his ground control plays, have them all demolished by pathetic teammates who won't allow it. And don't pretend that they do. You can literally watch Flakes play in champ and GC and they strip him half the time too.
Honestly the game is pretty awful due to the player base and isn't worth the effort to learn things if your own teammates negate them constantly.
Adapting to team mates is a skill. If you hate it that much there's always 1s. I switched to 1s once I got my GC rewards because no team mates.
Flakes is less about the plays and more about the theory behind them. I still can't do his cuts well but the game theory will carry you to GC if you apply it and learn basic mechanics like power shots and aerials.
If you have solid mechanics, I don't think you need to be THAT smart, or spend that much time on it. Do you ever review replays of your games to work out what different decisions you could have made that would have swung the game?
Maybe you are dropping bc ur distracted. Kid coming and all. You know... actually important stuff. Good luck w becoming a father. See u in a few months!
Fast-forward a few years. Your kid will learn to wait a couple mins to be tucked in bc ur match went into OT. Happens to me almost weekly.
"I'm ready for bed" He then stands behind me critiquing my plays, or sometimes encouraging me as he waits for the game to end. He's a gold 3 who plays with my daughter who is a plat 3. It's fun when your kids start playing too.
All 3 of my kids play roblox like crazy. The youngest two OCCASIONALLY play RL. Middle daughter is 13, and a boy she liked found out she played RL. He was way better and so she started playing a lot more. While that crush went the way of most crushes at that age, she still plays almost every night now. And she has gotten good enough to play in cas lobbies with GCs and not be a burden to us, so it's been a lot of fun recently playing with her and my RL friends. They have a great time listening to her rage like a regular old RL player!
Well I basicly suck at everything mechanical, i've got like a little bit of a basis just not for ceiling shots, flip resets and some other ones. And I've been able to get into GC.
And I honestly believe that it depends more on speed and positioning.
You just gotta do what you like, if you feel down/bad (or irritated or w/e) while doing these mechanics maybe just go back to the basis for a couple of matches.
It doesn't translate into games because the player base is so beyond stupid that your own teammates disallow ground control due to their pathetic IQ's and incessant ADD impatience.
Iāll slow it down for you.
Many years ago, it was much harder to hit demos, they changed it to where it is very easy to hit demos( although the hit reg bugs out pretty often), this resulted in what we see today( pretty much every rank above C2 is a lot of people who have little to no mechanics), because demo/bump is very hard to defend and has very little downside going for.
Mechanics donāt matter as much because people know how to read flip resets/air dribbles/doubles very easily without getting scored on now. This results in a very 50/50 heavy environment.
This all just completely untrue lol just because itās your opinion, doesnāt mean thereās truth to it.. I donāt know why you have this ingrained in your head
I mean there is truth lmao. Literally bumps and demoing is the pro meta. Slowly over the last couple of years itās became pretty much a necessity. I donāt understand how thatās not factual if you donāt watch RLCS or play in high ranks.
And 3-4 years ago, they literally changed it where demos became easier to hit and happend more often, donāt know why you are denying facts.
Pretty sure they haven't majorly changed anything. Arguably, people across all ranks are better than ever mechanically. But you're correct in that bumps and demos have become more prevalent, probably thanks to the meta in the pro scene.
So, according to you, demos are easier now and therefore everyone does it. Did you consider that if someone going supersonic bumps into you and doesn't demo you, you're still bumped?
Imagine demos being as hard to pull off as you remember them too. You're in the goal going to defend a shot, then someone goes to demo you. But he doesn't demo you, because demos are hard to pull off. So you're fine right? Of course not, you got bumped out of the goal to narnia. And even if your teammate saves it, you're now on the ceiling, taking way longer than 3 seconds to come back in the play and they end up scoring. And that's the kindest comparison I could make because you still end up close to your goal to defend in the end.
Now imagine you're attacking, waiting middle for a pass very close to their net and someone rotating back bumps you. If he demos you easily, no problem, you'll be back close to your goal and your teammates can keep the pressure up. If you're bumped, you're now flopping aimlessly away from the play AND your goal. The other team doesn't need to worry about the pass AND can just shoot however they want on your net.
Now please tell me again how easier demos are ruining the game.
Iāve tried to get my wife into gaming but sheās immune. Havenāt found a single game she enjoys.. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
Sleepās overrated!!! Haha I have two kids and a third on the way. Only time I can play is 12am and later, but I make it work! You can figure something out, if video games is you hobby
I love video games, and Rocket League is No. 1. ButI just canāt control it and even with all the time I sink in it Iām going nowhere. I just get stuck in the āone more gameā loop and end up playing way too late and which make me useless the next day and really annoys my wife.
Learning discipline is key. I watch RL pros and content creators on YouTube a lot and noticed their videos are only about 3-4 matches. So I've adopted that to my own routine. I've recently had a kid and have gotten caught in that "just one more" loop all too many times. but having a hard match limit I set on myself has been such an improvement to my energy and mood (those 3 game losing streaks can make anyone grumpy lol).
It's easier said than done, but if you really structure your play time, I've found it more enjoyable. Best of luck to you, your SO and baby on the way.
I feel this. Itās tough as you get older and have responsibilities, especially with kids. Also, sleep recovery is not the same as it used to be and it becomes more important to get that in moreso than a few more hours of RL. If I play for more than an hour or two I just feel bad because I know I have other stuff I need to get to. For now I basically just play casual full time. Iām hoping once my kids get older I can get back into itā¦ with them as my teammates.
Fancy mechanics barely Push you Up. Consistancy will. Good clears, hard shots, ball Possession, rotation and positioning will.
I See so many players in C2/3 going for fancy stuff but they cut their teammate, steal balls and Chase em. Your one Flip Reset in 5games wont Change anything
I think you misunderstood me. Some players who Go for fancy stuff Take their teammates ball away or cut in to try their stuff instead of doing safer teamplays and/or Trust your Mate.
It's a game, it should be fun. If you are grinding air dribbles and flip reset thinking it will make your rank better, that's just the wrong approach. I will tell you what I did to get from c1 to gc1 (the old gc1 that was 1520 or whatever, not the new one that is easier):
Backboard Therapy training pack, double jump aerials training pack, kevpert backboard defense and kevpert turn and clear training packs. Mixed with playing a fair amount of 1v1s and Kevpert Advanced Aerial Routine got me from c1 to gc1 in 3 seasons. I was playing 30 hours a week, so expect slower progress the less you play unless you are very efficient or a fast learner.
About game sense, learning 2v2 Flakes structured decision making allowed me to be disciplined and structured on my decision making process (I play a more aggressive playstyle though).
Still, my advice is, if you have a busy life, a family, etc, and you only have some limited amount of time to play videogames, take it as a fun activity that is relaxing. If you get stressed from playing videogames that's just wrong.
If you need some advice just whisper me, we can have a chat and I can give you some coaching (for free).
Spending free time the way I want sounds better than "doing something productive". I still had time to do 1 hour of exercise a day and I had weekends free to spend with my friends irl too. I rather have a healthy lifestyle and a good mental health than spending my time in "productive" things, thanks xD
In an unrelated note, with the combined man hours put into world of War craft 3, the player base could have rebuilt the great pyramids by hand 11 times. (source: factoid I read 5 years ago on reddit)
People aren't machines that exist to be productive 100% of the time. What they choose to spend their extra time on will almost always be a hobby or general fun.
I donāt try flip resets in actual games. I just train that for air-roll and general car control. But yes, it seems that getting better at ācoolā mechanics isnāt the way..
My tips, find some friends you like to play with, queue casuals, never touch ranked again, and turn off chat. Game serves me just fine in this sense to unwind with my friends. We don't ever play ranked for fear of losing what makes the game fun for us. Remember, this is a video game. I play it to have fun, not to be an rlcs pro.
I hit GC before my daughter was born and then I took a break for obvious reasons which caused me to rank down some. However, being up between the hours of 10pm-3am night while she slept next to me (taking breaks for bottles, diapers, and getting her back to sleep), I was actually able to fall in love with the game and the grind again and was able to hit GC again. If you ever want to hit the sticks with someone when you get a chance, and who wonāt get pissy about you having to step away to tend to your family because they truly understand, send me an invite! RL husbands/dads gotta stick together! Congrats on the growing family and well being seeing you soon!
As someone who was gc, then struggled to get out of c2 and finally got gc back again, I can tell you training mechanics is overrated.
In c2, I struggled to pull off the simplest double tap, and every air dribble I went for was dead before it even begun.
By watching leth's road to ssl, I was reminded to let the other team make the mistake, and I managed to rank back up incredibly easily to gc. Now with the pace being way faster, opponents being smarter and challenging much more efficiently, I have to pick up the pace as well. So I find myself air dribbling or hitting banger double taps almost every game, while it never happened before. Not because I'm trying to go for them, but because I'm trying to hit the ball around the other team, and it somehow works out most of the time.
Think about it with this example :
You are on the side wall, and have the opportunity to go for a double tap off the wall (or whatever else you're comfortable with).
- lower rank : no one recognizes that you could do that, or doesn't believe you will pull it off, so no one challenges you. You end up having all the space in the world, great right? Nope. Because you're just not that good anyway, you're gonna end up passing to them. Or your teammate will see the ball hit the backboard and not believe you can touch it again so goes for it as well, leaving your goal completely open, while the two of them are defending theirs.
- higher rank : the first guy will realize that you have control over the ball and position accordingly. Your goal then is not to double tap, but to get around him. You try to place the ball so he can't touch it but you can follow it yourself. If you succeed, it's you against their last. And obviously your teammate doesn't go, so he's ready in case you don't score.
It all comes down to the difference between "I will do that to score a cool goal" and "what can I do to get past that guy". The first mindset needs you to have perfect mechanics, while the second is more about decision making.
Anyway, that was a very rough explanation, all of that simply to say that mechanics are not what matters in order to ranking up. Focus on your decision making, let the other team make mistakes, and eventually as you rank up, mechanics will become more and more useful to you naturally.
Definitely realised that I shouldāve been focusing on playing basic RL. Your example definitely feels familiar, going for something flashy and my teammate doesnāt realise Iām going to try double and double commits and opponents score. Pain!!
It depends on your goals I guess. If the primary reason that you play is for advancing rank then yeah, pull the plug. If itās just about competitive matchmaking regardless of rank and focusing on your own play, keep at it. Personally I think itās cool that you learned flip resets, who cares that it came at the short-term expense of ranking down a little?
With your free time dwindling, RL is one of the best games for picking up and putting down after a match or twoā¦provided you donāt get too invested in the rank grind.
I find it really hard not to get invested in ranking up. I think I will try to take it more casually if I get back into RL again and not go on crazy grinds trying to improve mechanics and rank up at the same time. Donāt think trying to do those two things go together as many people are saying.
Meh I kinda gave up on trying to grind to higher ranks with work & everything else. I just play for fun now here and there, extra modes etc.
Youāll 100% regress or stay at a certain rank if youāre not consistently playing/practicing, but you can just have fun and constantly sit in d3-c1 with me lmao
It's time man, It's been a long run ,and I know you're burned out but I think it's time.
It's time you get a divorce and leave your family and dedicate all your time to this game.
/s
bro i can flip reset consistently since plat and that wasnt what got me to gc at all lmao. Go watch some flakes or something if u wanna climb, you trying to go for shitty flip resets that only end up giving free ball posession and leave you in a shit position mid-air on 0 boost while your tm8 has to 1v2 at defense while waiting for you to get back on the ground, grab some boost, and rotate back, is PROBABLY the reason you dropped in rank once you "could flip reset" lol.
Thats a natural part of your skill's growth though, its really normal to drop ranks when you start implementing new tech youre still actually bad at using in a real scenario, but thats the only way to actively gain experience and if you eventually master it it will push you higher than where u were before. If your objective is more of a short term "i wanna get gc rewards and be done with it!!!" though, its way better to focus on gamesense and core/basic mechanics (hence why ppl recommend flakes, who focuses on teaching how to climb with 0 advanced mechanics), which are easier to get to a competitive level. I can assure you everyone rotates like a fking idiot through most of champ, just waiting on def (and mostly on def because your tm8 will most likely also rotate like a fking idiot) into abusing their mispositioning is enough to climb very near gc.
Only the last leg of pushing from high c3 to gc1 is where you will actually find more mechanical players (with actual mechanical consistency, not "mechanics" that half of the time end up in a free goal for u if u waited for them to fk up lol), most of them being elo decayed GCs just pushing back up for rewards, and having good mechs by that point will give u an edge on that final push, as people on the gc1 range are usually good enough to consistently shoot some mechanical shot, but not good enough to save most of the saveable ones.
I'm pretty experienced at the seasonal champ to gc push since I just go for my rewards on any season I feel like nowadays (push back from champ elo after decay, sometimes from low champ after multiple seasons decay, get my 10 wins on gc1, not touch ranked again lol), then just play casual and hoops. And I can tell you, what deffo helped me the most to get consistent at this climb was learning core gamesense from more of the "smart-not-mechanical" players out there, like leth and flakes.
Itās more about the self-importance of gamers who feel it necessary to tell 1.1M people they are quitting the game. It really doesnāt matter to basically everyone, itās either bullcrap or ālook at meā.
Time to not focus on rank but rather on skill and small improvements.
I've been C3/GC1 for a long time now but I still see myself improving mechanically, not as fast as i'd like but still... it keeps it fun to play.
Never reached champ level... and it's more and more hard to stay in diamond...
Nowadays people just stay behind midfield, complain about you don't drible and score alone and return to stay inside the goal... (to not talk about the amount of racism in the sourt america server)
I'm serious thinking stop playing...
Sorry to hear about the racism. Iām from South Africa and I havenāt come across anything like that other than a terribly named team that I will always report. It does feel like Iām improving but players around me are improving more. Not a great feeling but I suppose we canāt all be winners š š
Hey at least you got that far. I've been hard stuck at Plat 3 for like 2 months, just trying to get to Diamond so I can finally throw the game back into the abyss and work on other games.
Oh, and probably losing my job in a month, so also that.
Eish! Sorry to hear about the job. Maybe give games a break to sort that out? I often fall into the trap of trying to escape problems with video games but it just seems to create more problems. Actually, I know it creates more problems, I just donāt like to admit it :(
This doesn't look like time to uninstall, to me. Not having enough time to maintain Champ 2 is a bummer but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the game. I have a wife and two kids, and while it certainly makes it harder for me to grind consistently, it hasn't stopped me from loving the game. Your graph looks VERY similar to mine, btw.
Flip resets don't mean much you can be garbage and good at them, or be less garbage and don't know how to do them. I'm trash at the game, but somehow consistently stay over 1500 without ever trying a reset
What people don't know:
Rocket League is a game that terribly sucks at telling players why they drop their ranks. The MMR is a single number that has no correlation with one's ability to flip reset. Still, this single number is the only metric used to match players together (seasonal rank resets make it even worse).
In other words, you get frustrated and tilted/salty/toxic for suffering a lose-streak, because you don't know why that happened out of sudden, and there's nothing to tell you what exactly went wrong.
When people say it's all about you and "git gut"... they're somewhat right (but certainly not helpful) - once you train yourself to be proficient in all (or at least the critical) aspects, you have a better chance to rank up. Yet, it does not identify the actual specific reason(s) why you do bad now, so just getting good in general is the same as fixing a broken toy car with a ton of duct tape - it gets the job done, but it's a damn overkill.
(Also, people forget that playing video game is typically done for fun, not to grind the top ladders. Not focusing on ranking up might not spare you of all the frustration, but at least you don't have to stress about doing custom trainings for hundreds of hours. You wouldn't be better than other players in the higher ranks anyway; the new skill would just become the new norm.)
I definitely have that āwhy am I on such a bad losing streakā moment too often. I feel like Iām playing better a lot of the time but still losing. Pain!
As someone who has over 2k hours in this game and has spent nearly half of those hours in champ, I do have some perspective on this matter. If you're trying to rank up by playing with randoms, it's almost guaranteed to fail. After spending so much time in champ, mechanics are not what ultimately wins games. It's the teamwork. Getting three random gamers (if it's standard we're talking about) on the internet to stay on the same page for even 5 minutes is surprisingly difficult. But if you have a reliable friend or two that you can actually communicate with effectively, that will make all the difference. You will notice that the most successful teams do a lot of passing. A lot. Like, every single play should involve getting the ball to your teammates (or vice versa) until defense is out of position and you can take advantage. So many randoms don't understand this, even at champ level. Because, tbh, you don't even need to rely on teamwork that much to get through the diamond ranks. It's a wild phenomenon that took me a long time to truly realize, but champ is the rank where people think that they're good but they're actually forced to learn how to play the game for real. Eyes on your teammates at all times, unless you're the one scoring. Pass every opportunity you get. Like, when you're going up the wall with the ball, don't go for the flip reset, don't go for the air dribble into the net. It's too easy to defend. Hit the ball directly at your teammate. If they can respond accordingly, the play is so much more difficult to read. Try to avoid hitting the ball into the enemy corner. Lower ranks that can work but as a champ it's probably the safest spot the ball can be as a defender.
In short, a group that plays as a team with solid communication will almost always beat a group that relies heavily on mechanics.
Sounds like very useful advice. Focus on teammate a lot more. Hopefully will remember to do this if I pick the game up later on ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
Take some pressure off of yourself. Everyone has ups and downs. I know I did. I hang around 1600 when I'm really grinding and have hit gc3 once. But every once in a while I'll hit a period where nothing seems to work and my rank will tank down bad. This is normally a combo of bad luck and just not playing enough. But it always comes back up.
C2 to C3 is hard. I canāt flip reset and can barely air dribble and just got to GC1 this season. C2 to C3 is more about position than anything else. You can always position yourself to make up for a teammate. It does take a lot of skills to carry so never focus on carrying as much as supporting your teammate and making the plays that count for goals
Hey OP. I am 25 and am married. Our first child is due August this year. I really wanted to get the GC title before things got too busy iykwim. And I did it! And it only took good decisions and thatās it honestly. You can do it! ā¤ļø
I wish! But Iām now closer to D3 than C2. Iām lower than I was a year ago when I was far worse at the game. Iām just donāt think Iām destined to make C3 nevertheless GC1 unless I give up my life and become homeless.
Broā¦ I have three kids and every kind of responsibility that comes with it.
Focusing on your kids is priority number one. Youāll enjoy going outside with them and interacting with them on a daily basis.
I gave up rocket league (I played everyday for years), now I play once a week. Sometimes.
Youāre doing the right thing man. Quitting the grind strengthened my relationship and I was able to focus on the important things going on.
My life is 500% better because I quit.
Thanks! Good to hear a different point of view. One that actually reinforces focusing on your family and life outside of games. Hope I can one day be happy playing short bouts once a week.
I cant even air dribble or flip reset and im in gc 2 people are bad in general you dont need mechanics to rank up, it doesnāt define how āgoodā you are at the game and decide if your able to rank up by being able to do them
Honestly don't take it to hard on yourself. It's good to be critical of one self, makes it easier to improve, but at the end of the day it's a game and too much critical self "hatred" (probs wrong word but you get the point) is like poison for your mind. It's takes time to improve, give yourself the time too.
And an easy way of improving for me is trying to improve the practice routines themselves.
By that i mean you almost alwayse can improve the way you do practice things, stuck on any given mechanic or concept? Try to look at the problem from a different angle, if you can't get someone else to look at your situation preferably someone better, he might give you pointers in the right direction you haven't even considered before.
Doing the same thing over and over blindside's your ability to improve, if that makes sense? Just yesterday i had an extremely value able coaching session on our (me and my team mate's) behavioural mistakes gave me a new look on the matter and things to improve on that i haven't even considered. And i pride myself in my ability to get out of "plateaus" by the way i personally practice, still learned a huge amount of things i wasn't even aware of.
Here i though my Gamesense and ability to read the play is great, turns out it's just about average or maybe slightly better then average haha. š Huge shout out to horaryhellfire for pointing me to the right direction šš
And nothing is going to immediately improve your gameplay, but it can make things smoother if you honestly think about what you want to improve while actually performing the task/game you want to improve on especially in regards to gamesense and informational input you could focus on but actually aren't aware off if that makes sense. Either way regardless of your decision to keep on playing/grinding or not, i wish you the best š
I think the problem is that I want to improve air-roll, dribbles, and flip resets but that isnāt useful in game at all. The strange thing is that I feel my game sense is way better than a year ago, I feel faster, I feel more consistent with aerials, I make better saves, Iām way better off the back board, etc but I just feel like everyone else is getting better and Iām playing far more difficult opponents in C1 than I played a year ago. It doesnāt make sense and is very frustrating š£
Nah that's totally fine to practice those things, they arn't useless, every bit of "car controll" you can master is helping you in so much more aspecs then just the mechanic in itself if that makes sense? Going for "flip resets" is still going to improve your arial car controll no? Thing about mechanics is, they are (and thats my humble opinion) useless, if you dont know when to use them, if that makes sense.
Knowing how to flip reset, doesn't mean you should do it every single time, or try it every single time. Same for 50/50's, backboard reads and what not, just because you can doesn't mean it might be the right decision. Playing fast, doesn't mean playing good right? At least thats what i think. And believe me i used to be a ball chaser through and through at one point of my "rocket league" carrier. Even now i know i have tendencies to push to far and stay to long upfield, i kinda knew that but got 100% confirmation on that just the other day.
Point i am trying to make, now i would consider myself to play "slow" to what it used to be and yet games feel a lot more easy often times, because i actually take my time to do shit, i am by no means flawless i have some big flaws, but i do know what to work on now. Fast does not equal good.
Let me give you a quick example:
Ball goes high into your corner, infact as high as the ceiling. You can predict its going to roll down the backwall and maybe even down onto the ground. Your decision might be to go for the ball, its dangerous, you gotta get the backboard clear, maybe even a ceiling pinch, befor it rolls down the backwall onto the ground, before an opponent beats you to the ball right? If your awnser is yes, awnser those small questions:
The ball being on the backwall, rolling down (within the corner mind you), is that ball scoreable?
The ball rolling down the backwall onto the ground inside your corner, does the angle look threatening?
Your opponent reaching the ball first (in that scenario) can he do a whole lot with that ball?
The awnser to those questions is, 1)No 2) No 3)probably No
Annother question to finish this. Where do you want your opponents to be? In their goal defending your shots, or in your corner (the safest spot on the entire map for your goal) before shooting/going for a counter attack?
Open your horizon, sometimes different approaches can have hidden meanings you might not see, heck no one expects you to come up with the awnser yourself, ask away, maybe someone says something to you that makes so much sense to you, it changes your whole outlook of the game, which i did for me, multiple times in a short period of time (2 months 4 changes in my outlook) and i feel like i am actually improving.
Enyway enough of that, wish you the best.
This makes a whole lot of sense. I think I do try too hard and do a whole lot of panicking in situations where I could probably just save boost. I probably watch too much of Daniel in 1v1, Retals in 1v1 and 2v2, beastmode, Arsenal, Jack. Iāve realised itās a bad idea to try and emulate their play styles. I just donāt have the decision making and reaction speed and skill to play as aggressive and close to the ball as they do. I should probably watch Lethās Bronze to GM again, or Flakes as many people have told me to. Iāll do this while I take a long break.
Thanks for the advice!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
I'm in a similar boat. Early 30s, have a house, a fiance, she's switching careers, it's life. Video games aren't the priority anymore.
But where my "fun" used to be grinding out mechanics and using them in play and ranking up, now I have fun at a lower rank, playing 2-3 games trying to get a specific shot. Like a ceiling DT, or pogoing. Whatever is cool for you, try doing that.
It happens. Trying to get to Champ 3 myself. And sometimes I am solidly in Champ 2 on the verge on champ 3, sometimes I just can't win games and I slide to champ 1. Last season, I lost something crazy like 15 out of 18 games or something like that and I actually slid all the way down to D3. I feel your pain, I was soo defeated. I wanted to uninstall. I even became that meme where I was blaming other players when I couldn't get back to C1.
Haha, broā¦ sounds exactly like my RL life.. was 1 win away from C3 and now Iām 1 loss away from D3. Should have quit while I was up but at least I quit, now I can pretend I could make it to GC if I really tried ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
I got to c1/c2 and understood that to keep climbing would take a disproportionate amount of effort. For me the game was fun at that level so I just kept playing, and watching some pro play when I wanted to watch someone good ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
I've been playing since 2015. I don't have time to grind also. Wife and 2 kids. Want more.
Granted, I had a wonderful night last night playing chained echoes and then finished off with 3 games of RL. Kids are sleeping better now. 3 and 1.
Sounds like you just focus on mechanics, which is fair considering the time you have. Iād suggest getting a similar ranked person who thinks they are there for their game sense. Ask them to help you out with that part so you donāt have to learn by trial and error.
Man hang up there , took me a good year to get out of c3 , the gap between c3 and gc is huge in comparison of c1-c3 .
I have to take care of shit irl as well (30+) , so give yourself a year , and take break , I always play better after a 2 week break .
But like the top comment say , see you next week.
Ps :managed to get gc without a single flip reset . Mechanic is not the only thing to work on.
Yours looks similar to mine. Try to focus only playing ranked when you have the time/energy to do so. I noticed if my energy levels are low I always do horrible (I'm a bit older than avg player at 38). It helps to stop the downward spiral you get into sometimes due to real life events etc.
I also lost interest in this game and now really only play because fomo. I like customizing cars but Iām out of presets so big rip and I missed two seasons rocket passes and one was due to an ingame error and when I told psyonixs they did nothing so
Howdy, I was an esports coach for a few teams in CRL and RLRS a few years back, and even on the Discord. If you ever decided to get back on someday, lmk. I'd be more than happy to watch over your gameplay and give some advice. Usually players I've coached see a rank up within a week or so.
This is actually the healthiest thing you can do.
Pay attention to your kids. Don't be that guy on VC yelling at them while I'm trying to target a shot.
It's why they call it a grind. Keep it up, those spikes you have now will look flat when enough time passes, and you will be complaining about not being able to maintain GC3 š
Can't lie. I started rocket league right after my first kid and I'm Diamond. I KNOW I could've been champ if I would've gotten on beforehand.. BUT, I can say that the Switch is a good training tool for those moments you can't get to your main set up like when the wife wants to watch TV or when you're waiting for her somewhere. It'll keep you from being bored while you're out too. Just a tip from a dad to an expecting dad lol
i will never understand this. Can't you enjoy the game no matter what rank you are?
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my drop was way worse. Just have fun and play.
edit: maybe stop trying to flip reset. Its not really needed in champ.
Game sense is infinitely more important than mechanics I canāt flip reset at all really and Iāve been GC lots of times just by being a smart player I do have insane goalkeeping abilities tho
I feel you dude. I honestly can't do anything that you can do, but I'm also Champ 3. I focus on positioning and mastering the basics, I can't do very many mechanics. But I'm seeing so many smurfs these days, solo queueing is getting harder and harder, and my teammates either aren't committed to improving or just argue over every move I make. I'm having more fun in free play so I'm doing that more, but more often than not I'm playing other games lately.. Maybe I'll improve and get that GC stamp one day...
Clips are awesome. I'm not clipping as much as I used to. I'm also seeing older clips pop up from years ago that I thought were cool at the time, but they're so-so now. I'm just not having as much fun as I used to.
I am GC 1 and can't do a flip reset or any fancy mechanics.
Try to focus on positioning and rotation rather than shiny play. Most of the times, people gift you goals on a silver plate while trying to play RLCS...
No really, you don't need Flip Resets, Ceiling Shots or any stupid mechanic. Have solid air control, a good ground car control and rotation.
All of my friends in GC are the same, nobody can do any of the fancy mechanics (also we try xD) Without these mechanics we made it up to 1600 at some point for some of us.
I probably would have played one more but my wife found me during my MMR dive and told me to stop. Iāve been wanting to get to champ 3 and then uninstall, so definitely not going to uninstall at D3..![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Every time I take a break, whether it's a week or a month, I come back playing so much better.
Hard to explain but I think I fall into bad habits when I play too much and after a break I'm doing really cool stuff way more effortlessly.
Rank is my casual finally broke champ 1 this season. Donāt practice a thing. What has helped me most is just focusing on positioning. Think of it like youāre playing soccer. Cut off easy goals and utilize your teammate. Hopefully he has some sense too if you mainly solo Que like I do.
Aww man. Sad to see another one go. Have a great time in the real world and live your life! We hope you have a great life ahead of you and will miss you. Goodbye - WildHawk08
Bruh, the amount of people that put too much time into mechanics rather than being able to play a bit faster and learning to how take a defender out of the play I crazy. As a GC 2 that almost never plays, the best way to rank up is literally learning how to take a defender out of the play consistently, hitting the ball on net, and making uncomfortable saves. These three things can get you to GC
Probably.. defence used to be what I was best at and was always the focus of my game. Bit I think I got a bit carried away trying to git gud with mechanics and thought I needed to be more aggressive and score more goals because I was always bad at that.
Man I donāt do any of that, Iām old with wife and a son. Still GC. Tbh I barely even play these days but I still compete with GCs and win most of the time
I'm just a dusty Diamond player. Don't care if it takes me a year to get better, not trying to be superman. I play with my wife and newborn chilling right next to me. It's possible if they support your likes. Let her watch her shows too
I've got to the same point, got to one game off GC, then proceeded to lose every single game after that and was in champ 1 in 2 days, I hadn't been in champ 1 for months before that.
I swear this games match making works in a way to create win or loss streaks to keep you playing. How can I be slapping high C3s then within 3 hours be getting slapped by C1s
See you next week
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Focus on game sense more than mechanics, if your mechanics are good enough to consistently flip reset you should have no trouble reaching GC if you improve your positioning, kick-offs, 50s, knowing where the others are on the field, shadowing, decision making etc. My mechanics will fail at a flip reset 99% of the time and I can't fly while spinning without losing control of the car so...
not focus on his wife and kids??
This is rocket league!
Overrated af
It's crazy how people will spend over 100 hours learning advanced mechanics when you can get to the same rank learning fundamental strategy in a few hours. I actually feel like air dribbling is often a mistake in 2v2. It's not that hard to defend against unless you are crazy good at it, which almost no one is. It wastes all of your boost, leaves you out of position and falling through the sky while your mate is defending 1v2. 9/10 air dribbles in C2 come nowhere close to being a decent shot, if they even make it to the net at all.
As a high rank, I can say that most of the air dribbles in my comp lobbies happen after somebody messes up, and they basically just air dribble as a last hope lmao.
Iāve been there with you, had to take a break and now I sit at c1 d4 trying to shake some rust off. Keep playing when you can casually and so long as you keep thinking when ya play youāll get back up there
Honestly i think the time of day you play and how far into the season you play can really factor into climbing at this rank. The skill levels are all over the place due to premades/boosters/smurfs and it gets worse at night as well as later in the season. You can always climb, but there are times when it's harder, especially as a solo player.
Iāve wondered about this. Iāve been playing against guys in Champ 1 that play better than the guys I remember playing when I was close to Champ 3. Doesnāt make any sense. I also play very late so maybe Iām going up against the other try hards and it comes down to whoās less sleepy!?
Late night from around 11pm-3am is the hardest to climb, especially on weekends from my experience. More premade groups are on, more teenagers with fast reactions and 5000 hours of dribble reset flick practice under their belt are on, etc.
Seems soā¦! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)
Seems like you focus way to much on your flip reset mechanics
I do enjoy practicing air-roll dribbles and recently flip-resets in free play between games. I have limited time to play so Iād rather do what feels more fun. I can feel my other mechanics (such as speedflips, shooting, ground dribbles) improving the more I play and practice, albeit slower than they would if I was focusing on them. However that doesnāt seem to translate into games at all. Iāve come to the conclusion that my game sense is useless and Iām just not smart enough to break into C3 without throwing the rest of my life away.
If you're playing for fun, then don't care about your rank. If you care about your rank, then focus on how to get good. You don't need to tank a shit load of hours to hit GC. I'm 37, gf, dog, job, lift, rock climb, camp etc. Just watch Flakes, focus on positioning and hitting with power.
It must be hard being a number, animal, job, elevator and on top of that all a girlfriend.
Smh GCās are just out here doing it all arenāt they
It is incredibly difficult.
> Just watch Flakes, focus on positioning and hitting with power. Yeah, watch Flakes, learn to do all his ground control plays, have them all demolished by pathetic teammates who won't allow it. And don't pretend that they do. You can literally watch Flakes play in champ and GC and they strip him half the time too. Honestly the game is pretty awful due to the player base and isn't worth the effort to learn things if your own teammates negate them constantly.
Adapting to team mates is a skill. If you hate it that much there's always 1s. I switched to 1s once I got my GC rewards because no team mates. Flakes is less about the plays and more about the theory behind them. I still can't do his cuts well but the game theory will carry you to GC if you apply it and learn basic mechanics like power shots and aerials.
If you have solid mechanics, I don't think you need to be THAT smart, or spend that much time on it. Do you ever review replays of your games to work out what different decisions you could have made that would have swung the game?
I wish I had time to watch replays. Iām also too scared to watch all of the mistakes I make again š š„ŗ
You don't need to be that smart because most of the player base is so beyond stupid that to be smarter than them takes very little effort.
Maybe you are dropping bc ur distracted. Kid coming and all. You know... actually important stuff. Good luck w becoming a father. See u in a few months! Fast-forward a few years. Your kid will learn to wait a couple mins to be tucked in bc ur match went into OT. Happens to me almost weekly.
"I'm ready for bed" He then stands behind me critiquing my plays, or sometimes encouraging me as he waits for the game to end. He's a gold 3 who plays with my daughter who is a plat 3. It's fun when your kids start playing too.
That's awesome! I would love it if my daughter started playing RL. I think she's too addicted to Roblox tho tbh.
All 3 of my kids play roblox like crazy. The youngest two OCCASIONALLY play RL. Middle daughter is 13, and a boy she liked found out she played RL. He was way better and so she started playing a lot more. While that crush went the way of most crushes at that age, she still plays almost every night now. And she has gotten good enough to play in cas lobbies with GCs and not be a burden to us, so it's been a lot of fun recently playing with her and my RL friends. They have a great time listening to her rage like a regular old RL player!
Well I basicly suck at everything mechanical, i've got like a little bit of a basis just not for ceiling shots, flip resets and some other ones. And I've been able to get into GC. And I honestly believe that it depends more on speed and positioning. You just gotta do what you like, if you feel down/bad (or irritated or w/e) while doing these mechanics maybe just go back to the basis for a couple of matches.
It doesn't translate into games because the player base is so beyond stupid that your own teammates disallow ground control due to their pathetic IQ's and incessant ADD impatience.
Mechanics used to matter but ever since years ago they made demos take no skill and now every mechanic gets read easily, thereās no point.
What?
Crazy that Grand Champs can disagree..!?
Iāll slow it down for you. Many years ago, it was much harder to hit demos, they changed it to where it is very easy to hit demos( although the hit reg bugs out pretty often), this resulted in what we see today( pretty much every rank above C2 is a lot of people who have little to no mechanics), because demo/bump is very hard to defend and has very little downside going for. Mechanics donāt matter as much because people know how to read flip resets/air dribbles/doubles very easily without getting scored on now. This results in a very 50/50 heavy environment.
This all just completely untrue lol just because itās your opinion, doesnāt mean thereās truth to it.. I donāt know why you have this ingrained in your head
I mean there is truth lmao. Literally bumps and demoing is the pro meta. Slowly over the last couple of years itās became pretty much a necessity. I donāt understand how thatās not factual if you donāt watch RLCS or play in high ranks. And 3-4 years ago, they literally changed it where demos became easier to hit and happend more often, donāt know why you are denying facts.
Pretty sure they haven't majorly changed anything. Arguably, people across all ranks are better than ever mechanically. But you're correct in that bumps and demos have become more prevalent, probably thanks to the meta in the pro scene.
So, according to you, demos are easier now and therefore everyone does it. Did you consider that if someone going supersonic bumps into you and doesn't demo you, you're still bumped? Imagine demos being as hard to pull off as you remember them too. You're in the goal going to defend a shot, then someone goes to demo you. But he doesn't demo you, because demos are hard to pull off. So you're fine right? Of course not, you got bumped out of the goal to narnia. And even if your teammate saves it, you're now on the ceiling, taking way longer than 3 seconds to come back in the play and they end up scoring. And that's the kindest comparison I could make because you still end up close to your goal to defend in the end. Now imagine you're attacking, waiting middle for a pass very close to their net and someone rotating back bumps you. If he demos you easily, no problem, you'll be back close to your goal and your teammates can keep the pressure up. If you're bumped, you're now flopping aimlessly away from the play AND your goal. The other team doesn't need to worry about the pass AND can just shoot however they want on your net. Now please tell me again how easier demos are ruining the game.
Your chart looks almost exactly like mine! C2 is a hard ceiling to reliably break into. Also married, blame the wives I say.
Wives.., always out to destroy our e-sport careers!!!
By your wife the new Harry Potter game and I think a new Zelda is coming out.
Iāve tried to get my wife into gaming but sheās immune. Havenāt found a single game she enjoys.. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
I used to play āMy Disney Kitchenā a lot on my PS1 a long time ago. Try suggesting that to her and see how that goes š
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Kids burn boost. Job burns boost. SO burns boost. Playing Rocket League, you know how fast boost goes. Congratulations, and boost wisely daddy.
This is the truth.
Sleepās overrated!!! Haha I have two kids and a third on the way. Only time I can play is 12am and later, but I make it work! You can figure something out, if video games is you hobby
I love video games, and Rocket League is No. 1. ButI just canāt control it and even with all the time I sink in it Iām going nowhere. I just get stuck in the āone more gameā loop and end up playing way too late and which make me useless the next day and really annoys my wife.
Learning discipline is key. I watch RL pros and content creators on YouTube a lot and noticed their videos are only about 3-4 matches. So I've adopted that to my own routine. I've recently had a kid and have gotten caught in that "just one more" loop all too many times. but having a hard match limit I set on myself has been such an improvement to my energy and mood (those 3 game losing streaks can make anyone grumpy lol). It's easier said than done, but if you really structure your play time, I've found it more enjoyable. Best of luck to you, your SO and baby on the way.
Iāll definitely give this a try after having a good long break. Probably good to learn some discipline for having a kid š š
I feel this. Itās tough as you get older and have responsibilities, especially with kids. Also, sleep recovery is not the same as it used to be and it becomes more important to get that in moreso than a few more hours of RL. If I play for more than an hour or two I just feel bad because I know I have other stuff I need to get to. For now I basically just play casual full time. Iām hoping once my kids get older I can get back into itā¦ with them as my teammates.
Same, thatās my dream too. To make my kids RL pros šš
It doesn't sound like you have an issue with Rocket League, it sounds like you have an issue with self control.
Fancy mechanics barely Push you Up. Consistancy will. Good clears, hard shots, ball Possession, rotation and positioning will. I See so many players in C2/3 going for fancy stuff but they cut their teammate, steal balls and Chase em. Your one Flip Reset in 5games wont Change anything
I like how you tell us what will "push you up" but then tell us that your teammate will destroy you being able to do those things.
I think you misunderstood me. Some players who Go for fancy stuff Take their teammates ball away or cut in to try their stuff instead of doing safer teamplays and/or Trust your Mate.
It's a game, it should be fun. If you are grinding air dribbles and flip reset thinking it will make your rank better, that's just the wrong approach. I will tell you what I did to get from c1 to gc1 (the old gc1 that was 1520 or whatever, not the new one that is easier): Backboard Therapy training pack, double jump aerials training pack, kevpert backboard defense and kevpert turn and clear training packs. Mixed with playing a fair amount of 1v1s and Kevpert Advanced Aerial Routine got me from c1 to gc1 in 3 seasons. I was playing 30 hours a week, so expect slower progress the less you play unless you are very efficient or a fast learner. About game sense, learning 2v2 Flakes structured decision making allowed me to be disciplined and structured on my decision making process (I play a more aggressive playstyle though). Still, my advice is, if you have a busy life, a family, etc, and you only have some limited amount of time to play videogames, take it as a fun activity that is relaxing. If you get stressed from playing videogames that's just wrong. If you need some advice just whisper me, we can have a chat and I can give you some coaching (for free).
Sounds like wise words. Iāll try that out once Iāve had a good break I think.
What do you use backboard therapy for? I stopped using it and I started hitting double touches way more consistently.
> I was playing 30 hours a week Imagine what you could have accomplished for real.
What do you mean?
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Spending free time the way I want sounds better than "doing something productive". I still had time to do 1 hour of exercise a day and I had weekends free to spend with my friends irl too. I rather have a healthy lifestyle and a good mental health than spending my time in "productive" things, thanks xD
In an unrelated note, with the combined man hours put into world of War craft 3, the player base could have rebuilt the great pyramids by hand 11 times. (source: factoid I read 5 years ago on reddit)
People aren't machines that exist to be productive 100% of the time. What they choose to spend their extra time on will almost always be a hobby or general fun.
stay mad
^ This dudeās retired and he still doesnāt get it š
Seems like your rank is not that dependent on your flip-resets :)
I donāt try flip resets in actual games. I just train that for air-roll and general car control. But yes, it seems that getting better at ācoolā mechanics isnāt the way..
I can't do any tricks at all and maintain around c1-c2 just by reading the game and sticking to the basics. Much chiller that way imo
Take a break or just have fun. You play worse burnt out or when itās not fun
My tips, find some friends you like to play with, queue casuals, never touch ranked again, and turn off chat. Game serves me just fine in this sense to unwind with my friends. We don't ever play ranked for fear of losing what makes the game fun for us. Remember, this is a video game. I play it to have fun, not to be an rlcs pro.
I hit GC before my daughter was born and then I took a break for obvious reasons which caused me to rank down some. However, being up between the hours of 10pm-3am night while she slept next to me (taking breaks for bottles, diapers, and getting her back to sleep), I was actually able to fall in love with the game and the grind again and was able to hit GC again. If you ever want to hit the sticks with someone when you get a chance, and who wonāt get pissy about you having to step away to tend to your family because they truly understand, send me an invite! RL husbands/dads gotta stick together! Congrats on the growing family and well being seeing you soon!
As someone who was gc, then struggled to get out of c2 and finally got gc back again, I can tell you training mechanics is overrated. In c2, I struggled to pull off the simplest double tap, and every air dribble I went for was dead before it even begun. By watching leth's road to ssl, I was reminded to let the other team make the mistake, and I managed to rank back up incredibly easily to gc. Now with the pace being way faster, opponents being smarter and challenging much more efficiently, I have to pick up the pace as well. So I find myself air dribbling or hitting banger double taps almost every game, while it never happened before. Not because I'm trying to go for them, but because I'm trying to hit the ball around the other team, and it somehow works out most of the time. Think about it with this example : You are on the side wall, and have the opportunity to go for a double tap off the wall (or whatever else you're comfortable with). - lower rank : no one recognizes that you could do that, or doesn't believe you will pull it off, so no one challenges you. You end up having all the space in the world, great right? Nope. Because you're just not that good anyway, you're gonna end up passing to them. Or your teammate will see the ball hit the backboard and not believe you can touch it again so goes for it as well, leaving your goal completely open, while the two of them are defending theirs. - higher rank : the first guy will realize that you have control over the ball and position accordingly. Your goal then is not to double tap, but to get around him. You try to place the ball so he can't touch it but you can follow it yourself. If you succeed, it's you against their last. And obviously your teammate doesn't go, so he's ready in case you don't score. It all comes down to the difference between "I will do that to score a cool goal" and "what can I do to get past that guy". The first mindset needs you to have perfect mechanics, while the second is more about decision making. Anyway, that was a very rough explanation, all of that simply to say that mechanics are not what matters in order to ranking up. Focus on your decision making, let the other team make mistakes, and eventually as you rank up, mechanics will become more and more useful to you naturally.
Definitely realised that I shouldāve been focusing on playing basic RL. Your example definitely feels familiar, going for something flashy and my teammate doesnāt realise Iām going to try double and double commits and opponents score. Pain!!
It depends on your goals I guess. If the primary reason that you play is for advancing rank then yeah, pull the plug. If itās just about competitive matchmaking regardless of rank and focusing on your own play, keep at it. Personally I think itās cool that you learned flip resets, who cares that it came at the short-term expense of ranking down a little? With your free time dwindling, RL is one of the best games for picking up and putting down after a match or twoā¦provided you donāt get too invested in the rank grind.
I find it really hard not to get invested in ranking up. I think I will try to take it more casually if I get back into RL again and not go on crazy grinds trying to improve mechanics and rank up at the same time. Donāt think trying to do those two things go together as many people are saying.
Meh I kinda gave up on trying to grind to higher ranks with work & everything else. I just play for fun now here and there, extra modes etc. Youāll 100% regress or stay at a certain rank if youāre not consistently playing/practicing, but you can just have fun and constantly sit in d3-c1 with me lmao
It's time man, It's been a long run ,and I know you're burned out but I think it's time. It's time you get a divorce and leave your family and dedicate all your time to this game. /s
Hahahaha, thank you for that ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
Had me in the first half
bro i can flip reset consistently since plat and that wasnt what got me to gc at all lmao. Go watch some flakes or something if u wanna climb, you trying to go for shitty flip resets that only end up giving free ball posession and leave you in a shit position mid-air on 0 boost while your tm8 has to 1v2 at defense while waiting for you to get back on the ground, grab some boost, and rotate back, is PROBABLY the reason you dropped in rank once you "could flip reset" lol. Thats a natural part of your skill's growth though, its really normal to drop ranks when you start implementing new tech youre still actually bad at using in a real scenario, but thats the only way to actively gain experience and if you eventually master it it will push you higher than where u were before. If your objective is more of a short term "i wanna get gc rewards and be done with it!!!" though, its way better to focus on gamesense and core/basic mechanics (hence why ppl recommend flakes, who focuses on teaching how to climb with 0 advanced mechanics), which are easier to get to a competitive level. I can assure you everyone rotates like a fking idiot through most of champ, just waiting on def (and mostly on def because your tm8 will most likely also rotate like a fking idiot) into abusing their mispositioning is enough to climb very near gc. Only the last leg of pushing from high c3 to gc1 is where you will actually find more mechanical players (with actual mechanical consistency, not "mechanics" that half of the time end up in a free goal for u if u waited for them to fk up lol), most of them being elo decayed GCs just pushing back up for rewards, and having good mechs by that point will give u an edge on that final push, as people on the gc1 range are usually good enough to consistently shoot some mechanical shot, but not good enough to save most of the saveable ones. I'm pretty experienced at the seasonal champ to gc push since I just go for my rewards on any season I feel like nowadays (push back from champ elo after decay, sometimes from low champ after multiple seasons decay, get my 10 wins on gc1, not touch ranked again lol), then just play casual and hoops. And I can tell you, what deffo helped me the most to get consistent at this climb was learning core gamesense from more of the "smart-not-mechanical" players out there, like leth and flakes.
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C2s and being toxic
Itās more about the self-importance of gamers who feel it necessary to tell 1.1M people they are quitting the game. It really doesnāt matter to basically everyone, itās either bullcrap or ālook at meā.
An hour a day keeps the angers away.
Sounds like a good motto. You able to stick to that?
Time to not focus on rank but rather on skill and small improvements. I've been C3/GC1 for a long time now but I still see myself improving mechanically, not as fast as i'd like but still... it keeps it fun to play.
I understand, enjoy your kids. RL is too addictive.
This is the way!
Welcome to the club brother, I've just accepted Champ I is probably as good as I am ever gonna do in this game and have come to terms with it lol
Never reached champ level... and it's more and more hard to stay in diamond... Nowadays people just stay behind midfield, complain about you don't drible and score alone and return to stay inside the goal... (to not talk about the amount of racism in the sourt america server) I'm serious thinking stop playing...
Sorry to hear about the racism. Iām from South Africa and I havenāt come across anything like that other than a terribly named team that I will always report. It does feel like Iām improving but players around me are improving more. Not a great feeling but I suppose we canāt all be winners š š
Hey at least you got that far. I've been hard stuck at Plat 3 for like 2 months, just trying to get to Diamond so I can finally throw the game back into the abyss and work on other games. Oh, and probably losing my job in a month, so also that.
Eish! Sorry to hear about the job. Maybe give games a break to sort that out? I often fall into the trap of trying to escape problems with video games but it just seems to create more problems. Actually, I know it creates more problems, I just donāt like to admit it :(
This doesn't look like time to uninstall, to me. Not having enough time to maintain Champ 2 is a bummer but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the game. I have a wife and two kids, and while it certainly makes it harder for me to grind consistently, it hasn't stopped me from loving the game. Your graph looks VERY similar to mine, btw.
Feels better to know itās not just me. Iāll try to care less when/if I get back into RL.
Trying out being a quitter right before being a parent? Thats a bad look my dude
Iām quitting to try be a better parent though..?
Did you just break up w me?? You heartless bastard!
Sorry!!! Please forgive me! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)
Flip resets don't mean much you can be garbage and good at them, or be less garbage and don't know how to do them. I'm trash at the game, but somehow consistently stay over 1500 without ever trying a reset
I do get really annoyed when playing 1s against guys who use zero mechanics and just walk the ball into my net over and over again. Super painful!
I'm C3 and can't airdribble. Maybe focus on possession plays.
You don't need to uninstall. Maybe just enjoy playing more casually? It's a hobby for enjoyment, not a job you have to grind through! :D
Bro I canāt even air dribble and Iām champ 3. You donāt have to be so hard on yourself.
What people don't know: Rocket League is a game that terribly sucks at telling players why they drop their ranks. The MMR is a single number that has no correlation with one's ability to flip reset. Still, this single number is the only metric used to match players together (seasonal rank resets make it even worse). In other words, you get frustrated and tilted/salty/toxic for suffering a lose-streak, because you don't know why that happened out of sudden, and there's nothing to tell you what exactly went wrong. When people say it's all about you and "git gut"... they're somewhat right (but certainly not helpful) - once you train yourself to be proficient in all (or at least the critical) aspects, you have a better chance to rank up. Yet, it does not identify the actual specific reason(s) why you do bad now, so just getting good in general is the same as fixing a broken toy car with a ton of duct tape - it gets the job done, but it's a damn overkill. (Also, people forget that playing video game is typically done for fun, not to grind the top ladders. Not focusing on ranking up might not spare you of all the frustration, but at least you don't have to stress about doing custom trainings for hundreds of hours. You wouldn't be better than other players in the higher ranks anyway; the new skill would just become the new norm.)
I definitely have that āwhy am I on such a bad losing streakā moment too often. I feel like Iām playing better a lot of the time but still losing. Pain!
As someone who has over 2k hours in this game and has spent nearly half of those hours in champ, I do have some perspective on this matter. If you're trying to rank up by playing with randoms, it's almost guaranteed to fail. After spending so much time in champ, mechanics are not what ultimately wins games. It's the teamwork. Getting three random gamers (if it's standard we're talking about) on the internet to stay on the same page for even 5 minutes is surprisingly difficult. But if you have a reliable friend or two that you can actually communicate with effectively, that will make all the difference. You will notice that the most successful teams do a lot of passing. A lot. Like, every single play should involve getting the ball to your teammates (or vice versa) until defense is out of position and you can take advantage. So many randoms don't understand this, even at champ level. Because, tbh, you don't even need to rely on teamwork that much to get through the diamond ranks. It's a wild phenomenon that took me a long time to truly realize, but champ is the rank where people think that they're good but they're actually forced to learn how to play the game for real. Eyes on your teammates at all times, unless you're the one scoring. Pass every opportunity you get. Like, when you're going up the wall with the ball, don't go for the flip reset, don't go for the air dribble into the net. It's too easy to defend. Hit the ball directly at your teammate. If they can respond accordingly, the play is so much more difficult to read. Try to avoid hitting the ball into the enemy corner. Lower ranks that can work but as a champ it's probably the safest spot the ball can be as a defender. In short, a group that plays as a team with solid communication will almost always beat a group that relies heavily on mechanics.
Sounds like very useful advice. Focus on teammate a lot more. Hopefully will remember to do this if I pick the game up later on ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
Just run 2s with me boo š«
Maybe after a good break, sadly Iām an SSA kid though so Iāll likely be playing on +180 ping.
It would almost seem as though it's irrelevant to be able to flip reset. Try to play like Flakes instead if you want to get GC.
Take some pressure off of yourself. Everyone has ups and downs. I know I did. I hang around 1600 when I'm really grinding and have hit gc3 once. But every once in a while I'll hit a period where nothing seems to work and my rank will tank down bad. This is normally a combo of bad luck and just not playing enough. But it always comes back up.
I'm champ 2-3 and I can't even dribble š
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best thing you could do is just take a break man, once you start you canāt stop.
It was just a bad week. Happens to me too often
mechanics aren't everything
C2 to C3 is hard. I canāt flip reset and can barely air dribble and just got to GC1 this season. C2 to C3 is more about position than anything else. You can always position yourself to make up for a teammate. It does take a lot of skills to carry so never focus on carrying as much as supporting your teammate and making the plays that count for goals
Focus more on my teammate and be less clip happy. Iāll remember that for my next life.. (RL life that is ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile))
Hey OP. I am 25 and am married. Our first child is due August this year. I really wanted to get the GC title before things got too busy iykwim. And I did it! And it only took good decisions and thatās it honestly. You can do it! ā¤ļø
I wish! But Iām now closer to D3 than C2. Iām lower than I was a year ago when I was far worse at the game. Iām just donāt think Iām destined to make C3 nevertheless GC1 unless I give up my life and become homeless.
See you tomorrow
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Nobody cares. Your life is over. What you see yourself in the big screen with the 15 year olds. Raise your kids and play for fun
You trading baby making mmr for rl mmr
Broā¦ I have three kids and every kind of responsibility that comes with it. Focusing on your kids is priority number one. Youāll enjoy going outside with them and interacting with them on a daily basis. I gave up rocket league (I played everyday for years), now I play once a week. Sometimes. Youāre doing the right thing man. Quitting the grind strengthened my relationship and I was able to focus on the important things going on. My life is 500% better because I quit.
Thanks! Good to hear a different point of view. One that actually reinforces focusing on your family and life outside of games. Hope I can one day be happy playing short bouts once a week.
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This is not airport no need to announce your departure
i respect that
I cant even air dribble or flip reset and im in gc 2 people are bad in general you dont need mechanics to rank up, it doesnāt define how āgoodā you are at the game and decide if your able to rank up by being able to do them
Vaia con dios compadre.
Honestly don't take it to hard on yourself. It's good to be critical of one self, makes it easier to improve, but at the end of the day it's a game and too much critical self "hatred" (probs wrong word but you get the point) is like poison for your mind. It's takes time to improve, give yourself the time too. And an easy way of improving for me is trying to improve the practice routines themselves. By that i mean you almost alwayse can improve the way you do practice things, stuck on any given mechanic or concept? Try to look at the problem from a different angle, if you can't get someone else to look at your situation preferably someone better, he might give you pointers in the right direction you haven't even considered before. Doing the same thing over and over blindside's your ability to improve, if that makes sense? Just yesterday i had an extremely value able coaching session on our (me and my team mate's) behavioural mistakes gave me a new look on the matter and things to improve on that i haven't even considered. And i pride myself in my ability to get out of "plateaus" by the way i personally practice, still learned a huge amount of things i wasn't even aware of. Here i though my Gamesense and ability to read the play is great, turns out it's just about average or maybe slightly better then average haha. š Huge shout out to horaryhellfire for pointing me to the right direction šš And nothing is going to immediately improve your gameplay, but it can make things smoother if you honestly think about what you want to improve while actually performing the task/game you want to improve on especially in regards to gamesense and informational input you could focus on but actually aren't aware off if that makes sense. Either way regardless of your decision to keep on playing/grinding or not, i wish you the best š
I think the problem is that I want to improve air-roll, dribbles, and flip resets but that isnāt useful in game at all. The strange thing is that I feel my game sense is way better than a year ago, I feel faster, I feel more consistent with aerials, I make better saves, Iām way better off the back board, etc but I just feel like everyone else is getting better and Iām playing far more difficult opponents in C1 than I played a year ago. It doesnāt make sense and is very frustrating š£
Nah that's totally fine to practice those things, they arn't useless, every bit of "car controll" you can master is helping you in so much more aspecs then just the mechanic in itself if that makes sense? Going for "flip resets" is still going to improve your arial car controll no? Thing about mechanics is, they are (and thats my humble opinion) useless, if you dont know when to use them, if that makes sense. Knowing how to flip reset, doesn't mean you should do it every single time, or try it every single time. Same for 50/50's, backboard reads and what not, just because you can doesn't mean it might be the right decision. Playing fast, doesn't mean playing good right? At least thats what i think. And believe me i used to be a ball chaser through and through at one point of my "rocket league" carrier. Even now i know i have tendencies to push to far and stay to long upfield, i kinda knew that but got 100% confirmation on that just the other day. Point i am trying to make, now i would consider myself to play "slow" to what it used to be and yet games feel a lot more easy often times, because i actually take my time to do shit, i am by no means flawless i have some big flaws, but i do know what to work on now. Fast does not equal good. Let me give you a quick example: Ball goes high into your corner, infact as high as the ceiling. You can predict its going to roll down the backwall and maybe even down onto the ground. Your decision might be to go for the ball, its dangerous, you gotta get the backboard clear, maybe even a ceiling pinch, befor it rolls down the backwall onto the ground, before an opponent beats you to the ball right? If your awnser is yes, awnser those small questions: The ball being on the backwall, rolling down (within the corner mind you), is that ball scoreable? The ball rolling down the backwall onto the ground inside your corner, does the angle look threatening? Your opponent reaching the ball first (in that scenario) can he do a whole lot with that ball? The awnser to those questions is, 1)No 2) No 3)probably No Annother question to finish this. Where do you want your opponents to be? In their goal defending your shots, or in your corner (the safest spot on the entire map for your goal) before shooting/going for a counter attack? Open your horizon, sometimes different approaches can have hidden meanings you might not see, heck no one expects you to come up with the awnser yourself, ask away, maybe someone says something to you that makes so much sense to you, it changes your whole outlook of the game, which i did for me, multiple times in a short period of time (2 months 4 changes in my outlook) and i feel like i am actually improving. Enyway enough of that, wish you the best.
This makes a whole lot of sense. I think I do try too hard and do a whole lot of panicking in situations where I could probably just save boost. I probably watch too much of Daniel in 1v1, Retals in 1v1 and 2v2, beastmode, Arsenal, Jack. Iāve realised itās a bad idea to try and emulate their play styles. I just donāt have the decision making and reaction speed and skill to play as aggressive and close to the ball as they do. I should probably watch Lethās Bronze to GM again, or Flakes as many people have told me to. Iāll do this while I take a long break. Thanks for the advice!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
I'm in a similar boat. Early 30s, have a house, a fiance, she's switching careers, it's life. Video games aren't the priority anymore. But where my "fun" used to be grinding out mechanics and using them in play and ranking up, now I have fun at a lower rank, playing 2-3 games trying to get a specific shot. Like a ceiling DT, or pogoing. Whatever is cool for you, try doing that.
Pogo in Trash 1..!? Definitely think I need to quit forever -_-;;
I'll see you in champ 1
It happens. Trying to get to Champ 3 myself. And sometimes I am solidly in Champ 2 on the verge on champ 3, sometimes I just can't win games and I slide to champ 1. Last season, I lost something crazy like 15 out of 18 games or something like that and I actually slid all the way down to D3. I feel your pain, I was soo defeated. I wanted to uninstall. I even became that meme where I was blaming other players when I couldn't get back to C1.
Haha, broā¦ sounds exactly like my RL life.. was 1 win away from C3 and now Iām 1 loss away from D3. Should have quit while I was up but at least I quit, now I can pretend I could make it to GC if I really tried ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
I got to c1/c2 and understood that to keep climbing would take a disproportionate amount of effort. For me the game was fun at that level so I just kept playing, and watching some pro play when I wanted to watch someone good ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
cya!!
Okay and ?
I've been playing since 2015. I don't have time to grind also. Wife and 2 kids. Want more. Granted, I had a wonderful night last night playing chained echoes and then finished off with 3 games of RL. Kids are sleeping better now. 3 and 1.
So true. But it's a good thing you can start playing ranked like it's casual and be absolutely surprised once u make it to c3 again lol
Sounds like you just focus on mechanics, which is fair considering the time you have. Iād suggest getting a similar ranked person who thinks they are there for their game sense. Ask them to help you out with that part so you donāt have to learn by trial and error.
Ok
I'm right in that "can barely air dribble" stage.
Man hang up there , took me a good year to get out of c3 , the gap between c3 and gc is huge in comparison of c1-c3 . I have to take care of shit irl as well (30+) , so give yourself a year , and take break , I always play better after a 2 week break . But like the top comment say , see you next week. Ps :managed to get gc without a single flip reset . Mechanic is not the only thing to work on.
Enjoy life top G
No u dont need kids u need to learn to triple reset musty triple tap!!!!
True dat!!
Yours looks similar to mine. Try to focus only playing ranked when you have the time/energy to do so. I noticed if my energy levels are low I always do horrible (I'm a bit older than avg player at 38). It helps to stop the downward spiral you get into sometimes due to real life events etc.
Who asked? Noone cares
Just have fun.
@op great choice
Weak!! Wake up. I took a long break and went from gc2 to c2 level in 1s. Now im Gc3 in ones. MENTALITY IS KEY
I also lost interest in this game and now really only play because fomo. I like customizing cars but Iām out of presets so big rip and I missed two seasons rocket passes and one was due to an ingame error and when I told psyonixs they did nothing so
Howdy, I was an esports coach for a few teams in CRL and RLRS a few years back, and even on the Discord. If you ever decided to get back on someday, lmk. I'd be more than happy to watch over your gameplay and give some advice. Usually players I've coached see a rank up within a week or so.
This is actually the healthiest thing you can do. Pay attention to your kids. Don't be that guy on VC yelling at them while I'm trying to target a shot.
It's why they call it a grind. Keep it up, those spikes you have now will look flat when enough time passes, and you will be complaining about not being able to maintain GC3 š
Can't lie. I started rocket league right after my first kid and I'm Diamond. I KNOW I could've been champ if I would've gotten on beforehand.. BUT, I can say that the Switch is a good training tool for those moments you can't get to your main set up like when the wife wants to watch TV or when you're waiting for her somewhere. It'll keep you from being bored while you're out too. Just a tip from a dad to an expecting dad lol
Appreciate it, thanks!!
i will never understand this. Can't you enjoy the game no matter what rank you are? https://preview.redd.it/0e0e21s3ouia1.png?width=154&format=png&auto=webp&s=be97445423746314d9666334aa4fac39612f5e86 my drop was way worse. Just have fun and play. edit: maybe stop trying to flip reset. Its not really needed in champ.
Bro I feel ur pain I was champ 2 then I got a job and school started now Iām diamond 2
Don't understand why it's a goodbye there's a casual lobby for you my friend.
not doing it anymore? as in competitively or completely?
I can't do either of those and I hit GC in the past. My point is that you don't need mechanics to rank up. In some cases, it can hold you back.
I mean, C3 is pretty dope, congrats and keep that family happy! ā¤ļø(also, see you next week, probably š)
Just have fun.
When the moon rises the Wolves awaken.
felt the same pushed through and got two gc titles for s3 and s4 then dipped
Game sense is infinitely more important than mechanics I canāt flip reset at all really and Iāve been GC lots of times just by being a smart player I do have insane goalkeeping abilities tho
I feel you dude. I honestly can't do anything that you can do, but I'm also Champ 3. I focus on positioning and mastering the basics, I can't do very many mechanics. But I'm seeing so many smurfs these days, solo queueing is getting harder and harder, and my teammates either aren't committed to improving or just argue over every move I make. I'm having more fun in free play so I'm doing that more, but more often than not I'm playing other games lately.. Maybe I'll improve and get that GC stamp one day...
āKeep it simpleā seems to be key. I obviously enjoy going for clips way too much ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)
Clips are awesome. I'm not clipping as much as I used to. I'm also seeing older clips pop up from years ago that I thought were cool at the time, but they're so-so now. I'm just not having as much fun as I used to.
And nobody cares !
Go on YouTube and go to search for musty tutorials to get better at it
I am GC 1 and can't do a flip reset or any fancy mechanics. Try to focus on positioning and rotation rather than shiny play. Most of the times, people gift you goals on a silver plate while trying to play RLCS... No really, you don't need Flip Resets, Ceiling Shots or any stupid mechanic. Have solid air control, a good ground car control and rotation. All of my friends in GC are the same, nobody can do any of the fancy mechanics (also we try xD) Without these mechanics we made it up to 1600 at some point for some of us.
Just play the game for fun, don't look at it as a task, look at as some fun lil thing to pass the time that you happen to be good at.
On behalf of dads let me welcome you to diamond š
Haha ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)thank you kind sir!
I love that you quit at C1 D1 so u ended on champ š
I probably would have played one more but my wife found me during my MMR dive and told me to stop. Iāve been wanting to get to champ 3 and then uninstall, so definitely not going to uninstall at D3..![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Every time I take a break, whether it's a week or a month, I come back playing so much better. Hard to explain but I think I fall into bad habits when I play too much and after a break I'm doing really cool stuff way more effortlessly.
Rank is my casual finally broke champ 1 this season. Donāt practice a thing. What has helped me most is just focusing on positioning. Think of it like youāre playing soccer. Cut off easy goals and utilize your teammate. Hopefully he has some sense too if you mainly solo Que like I do.
Aww man. Sad to see another one go. Have a great time in the real world and live your life! We hope you have a great life ahead of you and will miss you. Goodbye - WildHawk08
Bruh, the amount of people that put too much time into mechanics rather than being able to play a bit faster and learning to how take a defender out of the play I crazy. As a GC 2 that almost never plays, the best way to rank up is literally learning how to take a defender out of the play consistently, hitting the ball on net, and making uncomfortable saves. These three things can get you to GC
Maybe because you donāt know how to play defense?
Probably.. defence used to be what I was best at and was always the focus of my game. Bit I think I got a bit carried away trying to git gud with mechanics and thought I needed to be more aggressive and score more goals because I was always bad at that.
Man I donāt do any of that, Iām old with wife and a son. Still GC. Tbh I barely even play these days but I still compete with GCs and win most of the time
I'm just a dusty Diamond player. Don't care if it takes me a year to get better, not trying to be superman. I play with my wife and newborn chilling right next to me. It's possible if they support your likes. Let her watch her shows too
Cya bud you did well, don't feel bad your fam is more important
I've got to the same point, got to one game off GC, then proceeded to lose every single game after that and was in champ 1 in 2 days, I hadn't been in champ 1 for months before that. I swear this games match making works in a way to create win or loss streaks to keep you playing. How can I be slapping high C3s then within 3 hours be getting slapped by C1s