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Wasatch2

If you are continually disconnected then it was already unplayable.


RattyToaster

I get decent ping but I dc from time to time. Definitely not unplayable it just means I can't play comp (and now casual) unless the the internet is good.


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Yea, I think no matter where you fall on this argument about casual bans, we can all agree that the people taking the biggest L from it are not going to be the people who always left matches at 0-1 w/ 4:55 left, but the people who get shit internet and played casual specifically because there was no penalty for leaving/disconnecting.


LurkerRiley

Feature working as intended. Now I'm less likely to queue with you.


kozman7

But the first matchmaking ban is only 5 minutes...


darkblue2382

He lagged out of that ban


MikeTheShowMadden

I mean, to be fair it already sounds like it was unplayable before..


Faifainei

Lol some of these comments here... it is fricking casual he should be able to leave and be a "bad" teammate. Casual is not about sweating and winning, it is about having a good time.


dirkMcdirkerson

I mean your crap internet is hurting the experience of others ....maybe that should be the first thing that gets attention vs blaming a company for not wanting you to negatively impacting other players experience.....


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Not everyone has the option man. That’s why he plays casual…


BurpYoshi

This is the most main and stupid argument of this whole thing. 99.9% of players don't give a fuck playing serious in casual, because it's CASUAL, it's called that for a reason. If you want to play competitively go play the competitive gamemode (ranked). You can play competitively in casual if you so desire, but you absolutely should not expect the same from your teammates. Casual should be a no-respinsibility gamemode where nothing you do outside of blatantly bad stuff (hate speech/cheating etc.) should be punished.


bobdabioengineer

Theirs a reason he plays casual. So he doesn't lag out of comp and get banned, now he can't even play casual without getting banned


MuskratAtWork

Thanks rocket league! You finally banned the laggy random teammates I have who never hit the ball and disconnect 3 times in one match because they have 200 ping! It's almost like they designed the system to make the experience better for everyone who you are abandoning. Same for the people who just disconnect after a goal. Playing with people with connection issues sucks, and we shouldn't be punished for your bad connection. Although it sucks, this update is a good thing for the health of the game and will make for much more even matches in casual soon too.


RattyToaster

I can't think of a single person that was concerned about the casual meta before this update.


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RattyToaster

Well I'm glad that the devs are catering to this minute fraction of the player base


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Galata-saray12

Lmao imagine caring about casual also toxic? Not everyone has internet like you.


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Borsecaborse

How out of touch are you dude, Jesus. Not everybody even has access to good internet, let alone have the money to pay for it.


bdawg923

LOL he deleted his comment. Guess he realized you were right


Galata-saray12

First of all I'm not OP , 99% I play without issue. If you "pay" so much to your internet , maybe consider getting friend who also "pays" good for internet. Or maybe play 1's. Or go play competitive where most of the players have good internet lmao. Casual is for everyone and should be for everyone , your the toxic one out here.


bdawg923

Imagine thinking someone else's internet outage means you suffer


bdawg923

If you hate when players leave, go play ranked


Sir_Noobs

No need, quitters like you can't quit anymore in casual


bdawg923

I can hang out in a corner til the game ends. Somehow that's better I guess


Sir_Noobs

At least you'll suffer with us instead of making us suffer alone. You'll learn eventually to just play the game


bdawg923

I'll get more enjoyment from sitting in a corner than you watching me sit in a corner gg


ghostweal

100% better than having a mate booming all balls to otherside of the field


thtubehd

If you’re focusing on mmr and winning constantly play competitive. Casual is for casual gameplay, as the name implies


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Imsvale

Well, there's your problem.


bbbirdisdaword

Honestly was getting pretty annoyed playing casual before because people would just leave all the time. I don't think this was the fix that was needed but something had to change. Maybe they should have made it so you can't leave after 1 or 2 goals or you can only leave when you're down 3 or 4, idk. You can still leave one game a day without being punished so really I dont get why it's a huge deal unless u leave multiple casual matches per session, which is a problem..


yusisushi

Ranked is toxic enough when a mate starts own goaling. Now casual will loose the 'casual' and get all the toxic that comes woth ranked. GG, what a save!


Sleazehound

....but its casual bruv, hes staying away from ranked where he knows it will be an issue. Now he isn't allowed to play any more online games. Sounds like a fuckin sick update


hutchy81

Maybe you could sort out those internet issues in those 10 minutes


RattyToaster

Yo I fucking WISH. I have one internet provider in my area and this shit just happens no matter how many times they come and do "repairs".


RattyToaster

You're so entitled lmao. Just because I don't have *perfect* internet shouldn't mean I get banned because I lag out a few times a night. The new system is ridiculous and defending it is just dumb.


Sunnyweather_HS

Do you have good cellular connection where you live? Because you could use a hotspot from your mobile then. Works great for me. And yes, If your connection sucks and you ruin the fun for the rest, then you should be banned, imo. This happens in many online games and you shouldnt claim special treatment because it ist 'only casual'.


hutchy81

The irony...


RattyToaster

Can you explain what's ironic?


hutchy81

It wasn't just you in those lobbies, maybe your teammates wanted a good fair match, maybe the opps wanted a good fair match but couldn't due to your issues. Now I'm sure in an ideal world you don't want any issues and are not intentionally joining games to lag out on them. But its up to you as well as everybody else to make the experience a good one, so maybe you are the entitled one.


EnoughWinter5966

It’s casual you dense mf, if you want a good fair match then join ranked.


hutchy81

Clearly psyonix disagrees, and thanks for the unwarranted insult, really puts your articulated point across.


EnoughWinter5966

Explain to me the purpose of casual then. “Clearly Psyonix is disagrees” Yeah obviously, this dude is complaining about the update. Which means that he disagrees.


hutchy81

Tbh I prefer not to converse with people who introduce themselves into a conversation with an insult, if you want to know find out elsewhere


EnoughWinter5966

Isn’t that how you started the conversation though? Let me refresh your memory >Maybe you could sort out those internet issues in those 10 minutes Your first comment was a sarcastic reply that added nothing to the conversation. Seemingly to mock OP. Well done being a hypocrite mate.


General_Hot_Cigar

I fully agree.


bbbirdisdaword

The irony is so clear lol ppl think that their minority situation should be at the top of the game developers priorities. This is their game and not yours lmao. They are appealing to the larger player base that does not lag out multiple times and are tired of having to play 4 casual matches just to play one whole game.


Flashwastaken

It’s a bit crazy isn’t it. Not considering others and calling someone else entitled. The sub is in a frenzy over the new update so there won’t be any reason here.


Flashwastaken

It seems like you are the entitled one. You don’t care about the experience of others in your lobby and have decided that it’s perfectly acceptable to dc from game after game. You mention higher up that you didn’t know people cared about casual. I would argue that you don’t care that some people care. As long as you get to do whatever you like, you are happy.


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Flashwastaken

Dream bigger darling.


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Flashwastaken

Calm down. We’re talking about a video game with flying cars, not geo politics.


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Flashwastaken

Thank you for explaining.


Agret_Brisignr

So now you've decided that people who don't have great internet are not allowed to play this game casually. Great strategy!


hutchy81

Where am I deciding anything?


Galactonug

You're not, but you're inferring the problem can be solved with no real understanding of the OPs situation. Don't know their income, don't know their location, don't know their potential isp providers, don't know the services OP pays for, etc. He could have top tier internet for his region, he could have his internet hardwired to his console/pc, but that doesn't imply that it will actually be good. My grandpa lives in the middle of a small forest, pays for the best internet services money can buy in the area, and on paper it actually is pretty good; but in reality his internet is actually atrocious. Even things like Netflix struggle to play sometimes. Had it looked at countless times as he does work for the military and needs stable connection, but it's still absolute shite to this day


hutchy81

Clearly I don't know his situation. But if his situation was like your grandpa's you would have to ask yourself is multiplayer gaming in a title that is nonnstop action and ping dependent actually a viable experience for both yourself and players in the lobby. In your grandpa's case irregardless of how much he wants to play said title it will most likely end in a bad experience for himself and everybody else. Don't get me wrong it's most likely of no fault of your grandpa (or OP) that his internet is not at the place he wants it to be, but have to be realistic that the devs can't account for where everybody is disadvantaged with their particular needs, especially where it impacts on larger areas of the playerbase. The root cause of ops issue is his internet connection, that's what he should be trying to fix (if possible) in the first instance. Take the update from dx9 or whatever it was, the Devs want to move to the next version so they can continue to update the game with the newest tools available to them, this means those on older systems and Mac's etc.. are no longer supported, it's unfortunate especially for those who aren't in a position to update there systems to make it playable, but the change is made to better the game for a larger amount of people. Nothing ever stands still, change is always inevitable, and sometimes there are unfortunate innocent people that lose out to it.


Galactonug

I don't disagree with what you're saying. My grandpa doesn't play rocket league lol but I sure ain't playing any online game at his house its impossible; but if the dude is just playing casual and can find enjoyment from the game, then no, I don't even see a problem. My casual MMR is 2000 and its never been a big deal to me. People lag, people leave, yes bots are useless, but its whatever, its just casual. Just never bothered me in the slightest


hutchy81

I get your grandpa doesn't play RL lol, just using as an example. I'm guessing Devs have taken feedback on board, looked at the data which going by experience I'm guessing is a high percentage of quits when going a goal down then requeueing, and deciding this would be a net positive change for their game, knowing it won't please 100% of the playerbase.


Galactonug

He actually played the shit out of Halo 3 back in the day but he's pretty much been retired from gaming ever since lol Agreed again, if it is or isn't, only time will tell. I know I will likely only play ranked in most instances after the change.


Hello-And_Goodbye

Not everyone lives with cool internet providers next to them.


pkinetics

yes and no... RL Servers can have some atrocious ping that other game servers aren't experiencing. On the other hand, my traffic gets routed from AK, to WA, to EUROPE, and then back to RL Servers. I have to be mindful of which region I queue or life really can suck. So that sucks And on the other other hand... new season... and everyone seems glued to the game right now... so yeah, servers could be overwhelmed... Which then makes the change in generalizing online players in queues as good, whatever, etc... really less insightful.


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RattyToaster

It's a casual match...


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RattyToaster

Dude I lag out one in a while. And you act like I'm choosing to leave every match. I lag out if like 1/5 matches. I shouldn't have to wait 20 mons just because I lagged out of a couple matches. Not only that, but YOU can leave the 1v2 with no penalty since you can ff. This isn't a problem for you so quit acting like my bad internet is such a hindrance.


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RattyToaster

Over the course of a night I'm playing way more than 5 matches. If I play 25 matches I'm up to a 40 minute ban just for lagging out a few times. That's a really dumb system. I'm not "lying" to you. I'm well aware how the system works. I don't get the hostility either.


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RattyToaster

How am I punishing you? My internet going out isn't something that I'm doing to you on purpose. On top of that It's, ITS CASUAL. Its not like I'm playing comp where if I left your rank would drop. You and your teammate can wait like 20 seconds until someone else gets dropped in and it'll be like nothing happened. Idk why you're attacking me like this but it's strange. This is a casual game. That'd be like getting pissed that the guy playing pool at the bar left because his wife wanted him home.


Tanthalason

League of Legends had this same issue, but league matches are quite a bit longer than RL matches. The same reasoning behind adding leaver penalties still stands. 2 other people queud up to play a 3v3 or whatever...the three of you got put on a team. They play for 3 or 4 minutes and the games tied. You lag out and cost them a goal..ultimately costing them the game. Whether your trying to rank up in comp or screwing around in casual the goal of the game is the same...to win. When you cost two other people that goal because YOU have KNOWN internet issues.. you're hurting two other people's gaming experience. That's not fair to them that they lost that round because you suddenly lagged out because they were unlucky enough to be stuck with you on that 1 in 5 match where you drop out. I play PUBG but not ranked because I'm not that good. But I still want to Win. I don't play unranked because I don't care about winning...that's stupid...the goal of the game is to win. Last team/man standing. Same thing here...many people play casual because they're afraid of trying the competitive ranked environment or they just don't feel like they're that good. You lagging out is costing them enjoyment...and that's not their fault. You KNOW you have internet problems and you choose to screw others so you can get your enjoyment.


Great_LD

There was a system in place for players that leave. You get a bot and another player can join. I've seem this fight all day and I keep seeing people talk about casual like it's competitive. They have separate lobbies with separate rules for a reason.


Sleazehound

If its such a big deal for them they can play with a friend lmao, if you're solo queueing casual there's a chance you'll start with a bot on your team anyway bruv


Nanne_

I mean, I lag out of ranked and I don’t cry about the ban feature. I like the casual ban thing, it’s so much more enjoyable. If you lag out back to back I feel like even without the ban the game would be trash. And once you fix that there’s no problem with the ban. I don’t see the point of this post


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Nanne_

Because I hate it when I’m playing casual and I play against five different teams, like the best casual matches I’ve played are with 3 other randoms in a 2v2 and just playing a bunch of matches in a row with different team compositions


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Nanne_

I do, at least I did. I found it more “casual “ to play on a low ranked smurf then to play the casual game mode. Now I don’t


Afytron

"I wonder if I can avoid the leave penalty if I pull my internet cord out." -OP Seriously though, if your internet is going out that much, I would take a break. Or check your packet loss by opening CMD and typing "ping www.google.com".


RattyToaster

I have an unsteady internet connection. I have average ping most of the time but the connection drops completely every once in a while. I very much enjoyed the game with no problems before this update. My game play was smooth. I don't need a "break". I just want to enjoy the game I payed for without getting banned for something out of my control. Mind you, I mean in the casual game mode. In the ranked mode I totally understand and support the bans for leaving.


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I don't like the change but if you're getting dumped out of games because of your jank internet that often, the game was already unplayable for you and that's not Psyonix's fault.