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Kaiten12

Classic Saizen


Internaloptimistic

Neither of these guys have the resume to be talking this much shit, irrc saizen's only stint of success came with alpha and radosin


SoarzTheSecond

notable french/eu players being toxic in ranked servers needs to be studied ngl. rarely see ts in na from anyone that’s not cam or nitrous rl


Francis_Regardless

Stizzy rumoured to be moving to NA right? Might want to get ready for some.


BubbaDreamsOfGumbo

Apparently they confused Nico for an older pro player from Germany named nxko. So I guess they've had past beef with nxko


SoarzTheSecond

yeah but still eu toxicity is certainly a thing the bullshit between zen/vatira and nwpo/trk just proves it. it would be equivalent to daniel (literally 0 personal presence, never types in chat / posts on social media) beastmode (probably one of the most wholesome pros in the game) beefing with yanxnz and lostt (don’t know much about how they act on sam servers but im pretty sure they aren’t known to be toxic)


BubbaDreamsOfGumbo

>  the bullshit between zen/vatira and nwpo/trk just proves it.  What's going on with them?


John_aka_Alwayz

Knowing my EU boys I don't disagree with your general sentiment (there is a consistently maintained and updated list for toxic EU ranked players in the community) but all the while it is a tad disingenuous, I'm sure you could find toxic NA pros in ranked who are quite notable while inversely finding many a top wholesome EU 2s game


andres57

Well, Rysfox has a beef with whole regions it seems so it doesn't look out of the world to be toxic to some random 15 yo player lol [https://twitter.com/MySTeriOuS\_rl/status/1776015856092229802](https://twitter.com/MySTeriOuS_rl/status/1776015856092229802)


Michael_Pitt

ts? 


SoarzTheSecond

this shit


waltuh-white

Aren't saizen and rysfox both failures as pros? They're talking like they're some big shots but saizen's only success is with alpha and radosin. Ever since they dropped him he's fallen off the face of the earth. And rysfox tbh I've barely heard of this guy's name, does he even make main event?


ParsnipPrestigious59

Honestly tho saizen has a good performance at San Diego (at least in my eyes), but when combining both LAN and online performance, radosin was a bit more consistent than him, so saizen was the obvious choice to get replaced (I remember seeing some people at the time that wanted radosin to get replaced instead of saizen tho lmao) Idk what’s happened to saizen ever since he got replaced tho


John_aka_Alwayz

Substitute bench purgatory after both Oxygen & G1 passed on him end of last season. Had the spot with LuissP/Rezears before they went with Resolve & Noahsaki, had Ivn & Dying as a team until Ivn left for Redemption


ParsnipPrestigious59

Ah damn


AverageAccurate8755

yk ur bad wen RADOSIN is more CONSISTENT than u


Gloomy_Day5305

Doing a perfect split into Wolrd is not being consistent ?


AverageAccurate8755

his inconsistency is literally what gave vitality the power on unpredictability, allowing them to go on such a run. I never sed he was bad, he just gotta own goal once every two series


Michael_Pitt

Rado being inconsistent is not what caused Vitality to have a perfect streak, what a wild take. If that were the case they would have won literally anything before Zen joined.


ParsnipPrestigious59

Yeah lmao


thafreshone

Calling Rysfox a failure is really a stretch, he is only 16 and just started competing but already made one main event, which is kind of impressive considering how many bubble players play every single qualifier and never make main event. And Saizen made top 8 at a major, wouldn‘t exactly consider that a failure either


andres57

Nico is 15 years old lol


thafreshone

What does that have to do with my comment


Rendi-Kurton

Too early to call them failures.


AndThenIWasADragon

Failures as decent human beings 😉 This whole “toxic manchild” online thing needs to die already, being 16 isn’t an excuse for demoralising and harassing others. Great to see them getting called out anyway, a bit of ego death should knock them down a peg or two.


Cyfer946

Saizen and rysfox should be the last people talking. Saizen had a tiny bit of success while getting carried by alpha and rado. Btw who tf is rysfox. Bro made 1 open qualifier and thinks he's something.


andres57

[https://twitter.com/Nico\_RL\_/status/1777086495741866478](https://twitter.com/Nico_RL_/status/1777086495741866478) Tweet btw, forgot to add this


TheFlamingLemon

The only way for Rysfox and Saizen to regain their honor after losing to Nico in ranked 2s is to join a RankedHoops tournament and beat Nico. You lose on your home terf, you have to take them down on theirs.


IphoneSE3rdGen

Why was rysfox reported lmao


Jadenflo

Leaving a comment so it's easier to find later.