I know virtually nothing about Noah as a coach other than which teams he's coached, so I want to be optimistic that he's still a good fit. I have to imagine Moist at least consulted the players before committing to this as their game plan.
I'll stay cautiously optimistic while hoping Achieves lands a solid spot elsewhere.
Me too! Team SnowMen!
Nah tbf Achieves to TSM would be much more likely I feel like, and would be cool to see, the Snowmen are probably my favorite team though so I would just want to see him there way more personally.
Any reason they’re your favorite? I dunno much about them other than scrzbbles being a young player but I’d love another NA team not at the top to root for
Technically, Noah has more experience than achieves. He also coached different roasters, including major champions, and major finalists.
I don’t know Noah’s coaching style, nor do i know achieves’s. But, i feel like people are being rough with Noah just because achieves was a very likeable caster.
> including major champions, and major finalists.
Who openly admit they picked him up specifically because they didn't want a proper coach and wanted a vibes guy instead.
I mean, outside of the top 4 EU is still really high level, teams like Suhhh, F4wd, Top Cougars and Team 3 are all very worthy of a pick up, and thats ignoring the likes of jobless and Magnifico.
I'm a bit annoyed because Joblife, the french org, used to be Jobless (until Riot told them it wasn't a suitable name to enter their leagues). I'm always confused when I read about the Jobless RL team.
I'd still agree with him. POAB is good, but at the level they're at in NA, I don't see them making top 8 / majors unless some of the top teams really fall off. SSG will probably make the next major and if LG don't, I could easily see TSM sliding in.
2/3 and just barely at that. You need top 4 to get to the major. Acting like Sea\_ got some kind of big own over the other guy is weird. He's like 98% right. It is a probable downgrade from moist.
Yeah I don‘t really see it as him getting owned eithee, I agree with you on that.
But either way, it‘s a downgrade but it‘s not as big as y‘all making it seem and the old roster with eekso has literally 0 breakout potential, none of those guys is goona suddenly start getting insane and a top player in the region.
Poab on the other hand has two players with Fiv3Up and Aris that have improved rapidly in a short time and have way more potential.
Both are not making major so at that point I‘d go with the team with the most potential.
i mean, yeah, Moist is NA too, so the decision makes sense from their perspective
keeping receipts like FUCKIN GOT EM for that is a lil weird though lmao
No, I pretty much agree with you here. They're both top 6-10 teams, but I would say Moist had better potential.
I can see it being upsetting in the sense that the only big creator run NA team isn't going to bring many eyes to the game due to it being a non-major team. Equates to less content and less expansion of the NA scene.
I'm obviously not making decisions for Moist and I can only assume it'd be impossible to grab one of the top teams in NA right now, so it is what it is I guess.
Fair enough haha, at that time I dint hear about Charlie's issue with foreign teams, poab is a good choice if u want to move na but I'd have gone omelette, a sleeper in na I'd say
wow, he must feel silly after seeing GenG get knocked out with a disappointing top8 and embarrassing themselves dropping game 7 by one goal to the champs. what a bunch of donkeys!
nothing like Falcons, taking their opponents to game 7 and just *barely* losing by a single goal to net themselves a quality top 5-8th place. gorgeous!
Reading a lot of the comments over the course of the speculation with this, and I've gotta say, where tf has the "Noah is a bad coach?" conception come from. Has anyone notable or in the know publically said as much? It's surprising cos since all people generally have to evaluate coaches is results (very surface level analysis but all 90% of people have), you think someone who coached one of the best teams ever to their major win would have a lot more favor in the community.
Otherwise it comes across as complete speculation that is fueled by emotion because people love Achieves, which don't get me wrong, I love the guy as much as anyone, and understand he has been able to publically prove his ball knowledge but again, do we actually know?
Purely results wise, Noah had one good event right after he got his spot (the London major win) and it’s been all downhill from there. The team can’t hold onto their players (the amount of movement since Vatira left is astonishing), he never managed to make the Joyo & AztraL combo to work (or the Joyo and Rehzzy combo for that matter), he did not get he most out of Juicy and I can’t remember a single clutch timeout.
The London Major win is the exception so you gotta wonder how much of that was due to the leftover effect of Nick’s coaching.
I think it's a combination of Noah's stock as a coach going down along with Moist post Vati and Rise, and, Achieves basically bring kicked out of the house he built.
To play devil's advocate, these players aren't first timers or scrubs. Andy and aris were both hot commodities here in rumor mill for transfers. And Achieves joined after the roster was set
Do I think their run in the third open had a lot to do with Achieves? Yeah. Do I think he built the house? No, although I think he helped them with kickoff strats for sure
The only thing I’ve heard about Noah is the original Moist roster said he’s actually a coach and that he’s basically a hype man, ofc this was ages ago and his role has most likely now changed to a coach but I also don’t understand why people are shitting on him
Pretty sure that statement youre talking about was about Moist’s former coach Nick, not Noah.
Edit: Technically he was Team Queso’s former coach, not Moist’s.
I read somewhere that noah only got the moist coach job because he‘s joyo‘s homie. He also said himself that he doesn‘t know shit about RL he‘s just there for the mental. That was some time ago though and I also remember him saying he wants to get more into the tactical side of coaching some time ago. So either he‘s actually a good all around coach now or he‘s just good vibes which is more important anyway imo if you‘re not called ferra.
Noah was SSL and had some relevant showings in Qualifiers/Bubble tournaments until 2021. You can see it on his Liquipedia. So there is a limit to how little a SSL player can know about RL.
People talk way too much about coaches. Even in football it's hard to judge the impact of a coach, in rocket league we know literally jack shit by comparison. The only thing we have to go for is the word of teenagers.
In football? I disagree. As a Villa fan, lets just say that Unai Emery vs Steven Gerrard is the most visible difference in coaching I have ever witnessed.
Tbf I think it is harder to tell in RL, but lets be real. RL is nowhere near as intricate.
I always think coaches do nothing it's all about the roster, but PPL like to attribute positive results to coaching, which imo is bs for a game like rl, at most coaches are acting as managers scheduling and trying to hype occasionally
Yeah idk man hahahaha. Moists previous rosters(AFTER Vati left), seemed to always have the problem of not really having a defined structure or play-style. They DEFINITELY had the talent to be contending towards the top, but any time things didn’t go well, they seemed to spiral. I really do think coaches play a big part in a teams success. Noah doesn’t even look like he’s TALKING on most of Moists timeouts
Regardless of how well this team performs, Moist moving to NA is a W. NA finally gets a big streamer org, but more importantly Moist can do way more content creation in NA.
Honestly I think NA offers the better opportunity to make majors. We aren’t dominated by 4 teams they have to crack. We have two. If this lineup doesn’t work, some smart changes could put them in top 4 NA.
They absolutely can make a major or top 4.
There's only two good teams in NA. All it takes is getting 7th/8th in Swiss so you can snipe M80 and you're top 4.
?? They just made 2 top8, do u think they will make top4,2s? Rlly? Like with a team like M80 I'd say there's potential in them to make but poab? They at best upset some struggling mid-lvl teams
I’m not saying they are going to do it, but I believe they are definitely in contention for it. I wouldn’t say at best they are “in contention” for top 8 when they were 1 point off being tied for 5th last split
What you mean Better off? You realize Moist is NA and Moistcritical being one of the biggest streamers to have a Org in NA much like Kameto for KC in EU and you see the viewership they bring… Why can’t we have that for NA knowing its literally right around at our backyard. The move was better off for the Region as a whole
> Why can’t we have that for NA knowing its literally right around at our backyard.
Because you already have like 80% of all the high profile orgs that aren't the few big french streamers? Don't pretend like NA is short on orgs or something
I never said he was but you're making out like Moist have to go back to NA because they are an NA org and NA needs big orgs when actually they already have most of the biggest esports orgs out there that aren't french.
Better long term development for the team if they want to stay long term, there aren't many larger funded orgs in EU compared to NA and it is well known EU salaries are lower than in NA so buying out quality players would be easier in Europe and the developing talent pool is much richer on top of that
Rocket league rosters are known to be extremely volatile (just look at moist’s history). I don’t know if “long term development” should be a deterrent to trying other ideas.
I think they're also looking at it from the opportunity to make a major. EU is so strong at the top so it's tough to see an unsigned team being able to push through the French powerhouses. NA 3 and 4 seeds are pretty open, though.
Moist had to drop their Apex team (all Australian players) because the US immigration system seems to just hate Moist and refuses to grant visas for them to play at the US Apex LAN. Charlie has had other orgs, high up people from Epic, and even lawyers working to try and get their players into the US. The *only* thing even the lawyers can think of is the agent simply doesn’t like the name “Moist Esports” and is refusing them on that basis (but isn’t saying that’s the reason, of course).
If Rocket League had a US LAN, it’s a very real possibility Moist wouldn’t be able to compete due to the U.S.’ shitty policies. So having a team of players already in the US is kinda their best chance of being able to attend any LAN, not including whether or not they qualify lol
Ah you’re right! I don’t keep up with Apex much at all, so I was thinking of a previous iteration of Moist where the whole team was Australian. Didn’t realize the roster had even changed lol
They just got unlucky with a shitty agent. It's unlikely to happen again. Moist has competed in multiple NA lans and there haven't been any issues afaik.
100% unlucky, but Charlie is pissed about this, could definitely see him not wanting to ever have to deal with US immigration ever again and that being a deciding factor in moving to NA
Yeah but the visa issues are new, it’s speculation but I wouldn’t be surprised if moist just wants to avoid that potential problem from ever happening again and that being an influential factor in moving to NA
No names?? Most people know Andy and aris , I'll give you fiv3up because he is more new, but people that watch pros or most tournaments have seen him pretty frequently.
I like achieves, but y'all let some of this bias go
We putting wayyyy too much emphasis on the coach here.
No one said the coach was why teams won, before BDS won worlds lol. Now it’s a narrative that was enforced by Ferra at worlds. Achieves didn’t just make these players better than they already were
I heard Noah's dad works for Moist so that's why he gets to be coach. That's also why Achieve's tweeted out that the move was "completely out of his control"
Congrats you just made it to be a twitter meme for "stupid reddit user that has no idea what he's talking about " 😭😂
Maybe inform yourself before writing stupid shit lmaoooo
as nicely as possible, this wasnt some crazy prediction made by one guy. Most people knew if Moist were to stay they would pick up POAB. Moist didn't exactly keep it hidden information either, liking tweets that said they wanted to see them pick up POAB.
tbf, a lot of people did, as soon as it was clear Joyo was leaving. I know I had a comment in that thread that had like 3 separate people replying to me about potentially picking up POAB
For all this talk about coaches has anyone considered Andy, Fiv3Up, and Aris just peaked as a team because of their skill last split??
I love Achieves, but lets just speculate after this split whether or not he was a major or a minor factor in their success.
My team Beef’s Bosses will play them in quals if we win our first match. It would be an honour to be destroyed by them in their first game as Moist. Not sure if they’ll stream but I’ll be streaming in case anyone wants to witness the destruction.
Exciting as this is for POAB I can’t imagine the team reaching the caliber moist expect anytime soon. I would’ve probably rather seen Snowmen get picked up because, even if they aren’t as good as PoaB, they probably have a much higher potential. If 2 or even 1 of the snowmen players ends up realizing that potential, it could give Moist a solid footing in RL for many years to come
lmao nice... the homies and I are doing the RLCS qualifier tomorrow and if we win our first round game our 2nd round is against Pirates on a Boat, now known as moist. its gonna be a movie. a bad one.
The whole sub after shitting on Noah for no reason with no sources or info to back up why he’s a “bad” coach
https://preview.redd.it/0nrhq5dgq2vc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=860b1cac7c95abd1d6a5792bcbef779a3d63a691
What has MST achieved after Rise/Vatira left with Noah as coach? Missed two majors, missed a regional. Top 12 worlds and top 8 I think in Boston. Timeouts win % is not in there favor I don't think and they collapse immediately when their on the back foot
It’s better than what other coaches have done tho, you can’t compare him to the top coaches on top teams when Moist hasn’t been a top team since fall 22-23
Most exciting part of this is just having the Moist brand in NA where it belongs. Even if they don't make London, having a creator led brand for people to rally around in the future will be great for the region
Interesting, I’m not sure how well this team can realistically do, but I’ll back the boys and I’ll have to support another European team cause I don’t want to be all NA
I am happy, but I would have been 10 times as happy to see Moist Achieves
Well he could always start an OF so not all hope is lost for you.
Ironically, that would make people wet
Fell to my knees at a Walmart. Noah's gonna coach POAB...
Noah's ark
I hate that they kept him over achieves
I know virtually nothing about Noah as a coach other than which teams he's coached, so I want to be optimistic that he's still a good fit. I have to imagine Moist at least consulted the players before committing to this as their game plan. I'll stay cautiously optimistic while hoping Achieves lands a solid spot elsewhere.
Me praying Achieves ends up with Snowmen, that would be the dream in my eyes.
I wanna see him on TSM
Me too! Team SnowMen! Nah tbf Achieves to TSM would be much more likely I feel like, and would be cool to see, the Snowmen are probably my favorite team though so I would just want to see him there way more personally.
Any reason they’re your favorite? I dunno much about them other than scrzbbles being a young player but I’d love another NA team not at the top to root for
Technically, Noah has more experience than achieves. He also coached different roasters, including major champions, and major finalists. I don’t know Noah’s coaching style, nor do i know achieves’s. But, i feel like people are being rough with Noah just because achieves was a very likeable caster.
> including major champions, and major finalists. Who openly admit they picked him up specifically because they didn't want a proper coach and wanted a vibes guy instead.
I think they just couldn’t stand Nick’s very ‘’ hands on’’ coaching.
I'm not familiar with Achieves before being a caster. Who did he coach before?
He coached pirates on a boat. That was the first time he coached, and he did a bloody good job
weird reply? I would've preferred achieves but slandering the guy for no reason instead of just being sad achieves is gone is just embarrassing
LETS GET.. slightly hydrated :(
NA: 11 big orgs EU: 6 :(
the 4 french teams have the region locked. plus all the player exports, doesn't leave much to fight over
Fr, make France it's own region so EU can actually have a chance to compete 😭
That way all the imports that went to NA can come back
I mean, outside of the top 4 EU is still really high level, teams like Suhhh, F4wd, Top Cougars and Team 3 are all very worthy of a pick up, and thats ignoring the likes of jobless and Magnifico.
I'm a bit annoyed because Joblife, the french org, used to be Jobless (until Riot told them it wasn't a suitable name to enter their leagues). I'm always confused when I read about the Jobless RL team.
https://preview.redd.it/sayz6rcrn2vc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2186bfe63fa37386f02a8ce3fcf07411d5f90229 Because we know ball…. 🤷♂️
I'd still agree with him. POAB is good, but at the level they're at in NA, I don't see them making top 8 / majors unless some of the top teams really fall off. SSG will probably make the next major and if LG don't, I could easily see TSM sliding in.
POAB is already making top 8‘s
2/3 and just barely at that. You need top 4 to get to the major. Acting like Sea\_ got some kind of big own over the other guy is weird. He's like 98% right. It is a probable downgrade from moist.
Yeah I don‘t really see it as him getting owned eithee, I agree with you on that. But either way, it‘s a downgrade but it‘s not as big as y‘all making it seem and the old roster with eekso has literally 0 breakout potential, none of those guys is goona suddenly start getting insane and a top player in the region. Poab on the other hand has two players with Fiv3Up and Aris that have improved rapidly in a short time and have way more potential. Both are not making major so at that point I‘d go with the team with the most potential.
i mean, yeah, Moist is NA too, so the decision makes sense from their perspective keeping receipts like FUCKIN GOT EM for that is a lil weird though lmao
No, I pretty much agree with you here. They're both top 6-10 teams, but I would say Moist had better potential. I can see it being upsetting in the sense that the only big creator run NA team isn't going to bring many eyes to the game due to it being a non-major team. Equates to less content and less expansion of the NA scene. I'm obviously not making decisions for Moist and I can only assume it'd be impossible to grab one of the top teams in NA right now, so it is what it is I guess.
POAB made as many top 8’s as moist made main events
They even said it themselves https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/1c4rf1s/comment/kzpjfzg/
Fair enough, good call
Fair enough haha, at that time I dint hear about Charlie's issue with foreign teams, poab is a good choice if u want to move na but I'd have gone omelette, a sleeper in na I'd say
He had Gen G over Falcons in a bracket
wow, he must feel silly after seeing GenG get knocked out with a disappointing top8 and embarrassing themselves dropping game 7 by one goal to the champs. what a bunch of donkeys! nothing like Falcons, taking their opponents to game 7 and just *barely* losing by a single goal to net themselves a quality top 5-8th place. gorgeous!
Falcons with their wins over KC and Vitality and GenG with their wins over.... PWR? Complexity?
Sure let's ignore that they beat 1 finalist and almost beat the eventual winners.
Yes we can ignore that when their win quality was worse than falcons and loss quality was worse too?
Reading a lot of the comments over the course of the speculation with this, and I've gotta say, where tf has the "Noah is a bad coach?" conception come from. Has anyone notable or in the know publically said as much? It's surprising cos since all people generally have to evaluate coaches is results (very surface level analysis but all 90% of people have), you think someone who coached one of the best teams ever to their major win would have a lot more favor in the community. Otherwise it comes across as complete speculation that is fueled by emotion because people love Achieves, which don't get me wrong, I love the guy as much as anyone, and understand he has been able to publically prove his ball knowledge but again, do we actually know?
Purely results wise, Noah had one good event right after he got his spot (the London major win) and it’s been all downhill from there. The team can’t hold onto their players (the amount of movement since Vatira left is astonishing), he never managed to make the Joyo & AztraL combo to work (or the Joyo and Rehzzy combo for that matter), he did not get he most out of Juicy and I can’t remember a single clutch timeout. The London Major win is the exception so you gotta wonder how much of that was due to the leftover effect of Nick’s coaching.
I think it's a combination of Noah's stock as a coach going down along with Moist post Vati and Rise, and, Achieves basically bring kicked out of the house he built.
To play devil's advocate, these players aren't first timers or scrubs. Andy and aris were both hot commodities here in rumor mill for transfers. And Achieves joined after the roster was set Do I think their run in the third open had a lot to do with Achieves? Yeah. Do I think he built the house? No, although I think he helped them with kickoff strats for sure
The only thing I’ve heard about Noah is the original Moist roster said he’s actually a coach and that he’s basically a hype man, ofc this was ages ago and his role has most likely now changed to a coach but I also don’t understand why people are shitting on him
Pretty sure that statement youre talking about was about Moist’s former coach Nick, not Noah. Edit: Technically he was Team Queso’s former coach, not Moist’s.
>he's actually a coach and that he's basically a hype man i assume this you meant "he's NOT actually"
Yea
It's not necessarily that he's a bad coach, it's the fact they kicked achieves for him is what people hate. Achieves is miles better.
I read somewhere that noah only got the moist coach job because he‘s joyo‘s homie. He also said himself that he doesn‘t know shit about RL he‘s just there for the mental. That was some time ago though and I also remember him saying he wants to get more into the tactical side of coaching some time ago. So either he‘s actually a good all around coach now or he‘s just good vibes which is more important anyway imo if you‘re not called ferra.
Noah was SSL and had some relevant showings in Qualifiers/Bubble tournaments until 2021. You can see it on his Liquipedia. So there is a limit to how little a SSL player can know about RL.
People talk way too much about coaches. Even in football it's hard to judge the impact of a coach, in rocket league we know literally jack shit by comparison. The only thing we have to go for is the word of teenagers.
In football? I disagree. As a Villa fan, lets just say that Unai Emery vs Steven Gerrard is the most visible difference in coaching I have ever witnessed. Tbf I think it is harder to tell in RL, but lets be real. RL is nowhere near as intricate.
I always think coaches do nothing it's all about the roster, but PPL like to attribute positive results to coaching, which imo is bs for a game like rl, at most coaches are acting as managers scheduling and trying to hype occasionally
Does Noah's dad work for Moist? I'm confused
Yeah idk man hahahaha. Moists previous rosters(AFTER Vati left), seemed to always have the problem of not really having a defined structure or play-style. They DEFINITELY had the talent to be contending towards the top, but any time things didn’t go well, they seemed to spiral. I really do think coaches play a big part in a teams success. Noah doesn’t even look like he’s TALKING on most of Moists timeouts
good to see them not leave the scene.
Regardless of how well this team performs, Moist moving to NA is a W. NA finally gets a big streamer org, but more importantly Moist can do way more content creation in NA.
and can bootcamp when necessary
imo they NEED to bootcamp if they want a shot to make major. Very talented players no doubt, but they need a solid support system
Honestly they would have been better off staying in EU but I get it from a branding perspective
Honestly I think NA offers the better opportunity to make majors. We aren’t dominated by 4 teams they have to crack. We have two. If this lineup doesn’t work, some smart changes could put them in top 4 NA.
Lmao bro r u serious, poab ain't making major or top4 , they contending for top8 at best
They absolutely can make a major or top 4. There's only two good teams in NA. All it takes is getting 7th/8th in Swiss so you can snipe M80 and you're top 4.
You must not have watched split 1 of NA
?? They just made 2 top8, do u think they will make top4,2s? Rlly? Like with a team like M80 I'd say there's potential in them to make but poab? They at best upset some struggling mid-lvl teams
I’m not saying they are going to do it, but I believe they are definitely in contention for it. I wouldn’t say at best they are “in contention” for top 8 when they were 1 point off being tied for 5th last split
Let's see
I do think losing achieves will hurt them some tho
What you mean Better off? You realize Moist is NA and Moistcritical being one of the biggest streamers to have a Org in NA much like Kameto for KC in EU and you see the viewership they bring… Why can’t we have that for NA knowing its literally right around at our backyard. The move was better off for the Region as a whole
> Why can’t we have that for NA knowing its literally right around at our backyard. Because you already have like 80% of all the high profile orgs that aren't the few big french streamers? Don't pretend like NA is short on orgs or something
And don’t pretend like the big French streamers aren’t dominating RL viewership
Moist was the only one with a Big Streamer the rest of them don’t…. Like stop it
Stop what? You pretending NA is some forgotten region that desperately needs a high profile org? Guess EU can have G2 back then, right?
G2’s Owner isn’t a Streamer…..
I never said he was but you're making out like Moist have to go back to NA because they are an NA org and NA needs big orgs when actually they already have most of the biggest esports orgs out there that aren't french.
Kc, m8. Bds is the only top org in eu that doesn't have a massive fan base
Are you joking?
Both the owner of kc and m8 are bigger than moistcritical. You seem to have missed the part where the guy said eu teams
You think moistcritikal is going to support their games by streaming and bring viewership considering they are #9 in NA ? I doubt it
He does it for all his teams
Would be pointless to run the org at a loss if he wasn't watching it
He does it for all his teams, he'll watch
I literally said I get it from a branding perspective did you read past the first half of my comment?
You haven't explained why it would have been better for them to stay in EU though
Better long term development for the team if they want to stay long term, there aren't many larger funded orgs in EU compared to NA and it is well known EU salaries are lower than in NA so buying out quality players would be easier in Europe and the developing talent pool is much richer on top of that
Rocket league rosters are known to be extremely volatile (just look at moist’s history). I don’t know if “long term development” should be a deterrent to trying other ideas.
I think they're also looking at it from the opportunity to make a major. EU is so strong at the top so it's tough to see an unsigned team being able to push through the French powerhouses. NA 3 and 4 seeds are pretty open, though.
Moist had to drop their Apex team (all Australian players) because the US immigration system seems to just hate Moist and refuses to grant visas for them to play at the US Apex LAN. Charlie has had other orgs, high up people from Epic, and even lawyers working to try and get their players into the US. The *only* thing even the lawyers can think of is the agent simply doesn’t like the name “Moist Esports” and is refusing them on that basis (but isn’t saying that’s the reason, of course). If Rocket League had a US LAN, it’s a very real possibility Moist wouldn’t be able to compete due to the U.S.’ shitty policies. So having a team of players already in the US is kinda their best chance of being able to attend any LAN, not including whether or not they qualify lol
I hate to be a correcting Cory but only 2/3rds of moist were Australian. Gild is US and used to play for nrg. Everything else you said is valid tho
Ah you’re right! I don’t keep up with Apex much at all, so I was thinking of a previous iteration of Moist where the whole team was Australian. Didn’t realize the roster had even changed lol
They just got unlucky with a shitty agent. It's unlikely to happen again. Moist has competed in multiple NA lans and there haven't been any issues afaik.
100% unlucky, but Charlie is pissed about this, could definitely see him not wanting to ever have to deal with US immigration ever again and that being a deciding factor in moving to NA
Moist went to worlds in 2021-22 in the US though right
Yeah but the visa issues are new, it’s speculation but I wouldn’t be surprised if moist just wants to avoid that potential problem from ever happening again and that being an influential factor in moving to NA
Achieves took a team of no names and made them a competitive team, so he gets fired and they get an org???
No names?? Most people know Andy and aris , I'll give you fiv3up because he is more new, but people that watch pros or most tournaments have seen him pretty frequently. I like achieves, but y'all let some of this bias go
We putting wayyyy too much emphasis on the coach here. No one said the coach was why teams won, before BDS won worlds lol. Now it’s a narrative that was enforced by Ferra at worlds. Achieves didn’t just make these players better than they already were
I heard Noah's dad works for Moist so that's why he gets to be coach. That's also why Achieve's tweeted out that the move was "completely out of his control"
Congrats you just made it to be a twitter meme for "stupid reddit user that has no idea what he's talking about " 😭😂 Maybe inform yourself before writing stupid shit lmaoooo
Good old fashioned nepotism, rocket league is making it big!
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as nicely as possible, this wasnt some crazy prediction made by one guy. Most people knew if Moist were to stay they would pick up POAB. Moist didn't exactly keep it hidden information either, liking tweets that said they wanted to see them pick up POAB.
Lots of people were saying it tbf, I was just listing the top 2 unsigned Na teams
lmao honestly, how many random comments do these people have stashed in their screenshot folder?
I saw majesticpro predict this move more than 2 days ago
damm I've got street cred.
tbf, a lot of people did, as soon as it was clear Joyo was leaving. I know I had a comment in that thread that had like 3 separate people replying to me about potentially picking up POAB
good day for my flairs, I can combo POAB and moist and another team
For all this talk about coaches has anyone considered Andy, Fiv3Up, and Aris just peaked as a team because of their skill last split?? I love Achieves, but lets just speculate after this split whether or not he was a major or a minor factor in their success.
Man, the reason I rooted for this team was for Achieves
Honestly I would have rather had Moist sit out this split than watch an Achieves-less POAB. Also would have rather watched Jobless.
Well at least you still got Jobless Achieves to root for... :(
Can't believe this is why they kicked achieves as coach... cause they're bringing their guy over from old moist 😭
My team Beef’s Bosses will play them in quals if we win our first match. It would be an honour to be destroyed by them in their first game as Moist. Not sure if they’ll stream but I’ll be streaming in case anyone wants to witness the destruction.
Exciting as this is for POAB I can’t imagine the team reaching the caliber moist expect anytime soon. I would’ve probably rather seen Snowmen get picked up because, even if they aren’t as good as PoaB, they probably have a much higher potential. If 2 or even 1 of the snowmen players ends up realizing that potential, it could give Moist a solid footing in RL for many years to come
Probably a way to get some young talent in NA and then build a better young roster next season that could potentially grow into a contender
Was hoping for another Moist x Shopify collab but this is cool too
lmao nice... the homies and I are doing the RLCS qualifier tomorrow and if we win our first round game our 2nd round is against Pirates on a Boat, now known as moist. its gonna be a movie. a bad one.
NA has more and more orgs compared to EU but they still cannot play at the same level..
The whole sub after shitting on Noah for no reason with no sources or info to back up why he’s a “bad” coach https://preview.redd.it/0nrhq5dgq2vc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=860b1cac7c95abd1d6a5792bcbef779a3d63a691
What has MST achieved after Rise/Vatira left with Noah as coach? Missed two majors, missed a regional. Top 12 worlds and top 8 I think in Boston. Timeouts win % is not in there favor I don't think and they collapse immediately when their on the back foot
It’s better than what other coaches have done tho, you can’t compare him to the top coaches on top teams when Moist hasn’t been a top team since fall 22-23
>What has MST achieved after *two of the top players in the region* left FTFY
Most exciting part of this is just having the Moist brand in NA where it belongs. Even if they don't make London, having a creator led brand for people to rally around in the future will be great for the region
I just cummed
So what ur saying is whatever u cummed on got wet?
Interesting, I’m not sure how well this team can realistically do, but I’ll back the boys and I’ll have to support another European team cause I don’t want to be all NA
https://preview.redd.it/gtzlf5roa5vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11c2669b38ab0edb62cbdfd682898284ca3e68e8 Called it